toeshe
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September 10, 2014, 03:39:19 AM |
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low 20 ill dump for a point
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toeshe
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September 10, 2014, 03:43:02 AM |
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and to be fair ill tell you after
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FredDag
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September 10, 2014, 03:45:44 AM |
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LINE UP FOLKS FREE BLINDERS I SAID FREE LINE UP
Sorry dude... I can't handle all your single line posts one after another. Why not write what you have to say in a single post? For now I'm adding you to my IGNORE list to keep this thread readable.
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September 10, 2014, 03:49:23 AM |
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jesus what a blood bath.
I am not mad at kosmost for shutting down the LLC the way he did. I am mad because he did it so close to the previous dump.
All the guy did was try to give it a shot. the damage is done now. The LLC is off.
I want karma to succeed more then i am said that my coins lost value. my coin have increased in value and have decreased in value in these past 6 months. I never blamed him.
If you all want kosmost to stay then voice your opinion soon before the rest of the people drive him away.
It was the same stressful behavior that reside for him to wanting to remove POC.
As it was clear from the get go. Everything would had to be %100 legal and %100 regulated. Mainly the reason we did not seek features like Annon or casino.dice games , lotteries etc.
I have had more conversation with him then anyone here and i never suspected him of trying to scam us. The only suspicious i had with him was how much he was spending on a whimp for karma services. Both time and $$. Being that he said he did not own a lot of karmashareLLC, i always wondered why he was putting this effort. the only rational reason i could come up with at that time it was that he was doing all this is because he was bored and took Karma as an social experiment. fearing that as a rich person (well off), he would soon enough get bored and walk away.
But those thoughts started faiding away as everyday he kept coming back and doing more stuff. days become months and he was still here. trying to give all of us task to do. trying to organize us.
Everything was fine. Up until we saw the fiasco with SEC going after the dicegame IPO and arresting the founder. With news that SEC will start inspecting more IPOs and other offerings in.
Ever since then it has been pressuring times for kosmost. Soon enough people started talking about POC. Will POC be part of this? is POC worth it?
Behind the curtains, between talks with group members, i was one of them who told them to put POC and the share-explorer on hold. Why waste time and resources with the share explorer when we have no dividends to pay our karmanians.. We still aren't using karma for anything. lets focus on giving karma a reason to be used and see how to capitalize that. Then, when we are coming close to being able to collect revenue, we offer bounties to good devs and set these services up. At the same time i told them once having revenue we would be able to also pay for lawyers so we can reward the POC holders!
I could sense the worry of kosmost in our chats but he continued to work with us. I guess my speech of hiring legal help with the LLC coins comforted him enough to keep movign forward. . I am pretty sure he started spending some time privately looking it up, regardless.
Then out of the blue , Lill.com has had an offering! This is one of the things i could never understand why Kosmost did it. Why announce it when you would not provide any proof! (after he went public with it) I could tell from his chat comments that this was something he was proud! i still do not understand why he went public with it. I wished he never did. I wished we would never know all this. because i know how harsh this community is here.You dont release "possible" news. Also people will try to sell on news. I always knew deep down inside he would never sell, but i had no say at all on what he would choose. The team never knew anything more then what he posted on the public. All we could see was his excitement and sense of profoundness. the team all learned what happened in those meeting the same way you all did.
I wish that offer never was released. I think kosmost thought he would be welcomed with happy applauds. Instead he got torn and chewed by angry investors. That is the problem i have with him. He sees karma as an end result and publicly states stuff he wants to do about it. And i would sit there and argue with him that people are going to use this news to trade on and they will be sour when they see that this will not be a short task but a long journey. I would irritate him, because to him its not about trading karma. He saw the bigger pictures. While he was right, and always been right,i couldn't stop bothering him and question his action. i was always worried that people miss intrepid his words. "This could have been handled better" has been one of the phrases i hunted him mostly.
He was mostly right to not care how investors took his moves , he needed to do things and tried to be as open to the public as possible. The problem is that people always misinterpret him. Kosmot has a way with words that people get enchanted. I mean it at one time it felt like the moment kosmost made a post , there were 5 Btc buy volume put on trade.
But the truth his people started to believe in him more then they needed to believe in karma. Soon enough you could tell that people were investing in kosmost and not so much in karma. At the same time, believing in him so much no one cared to answer to his request for work. People saw him being a successful leader for karma and thought some one else will help him.
While i think he got tired of asking people i still knew he would be here for karma. But when the brutal accusation started all over again( first with POC , then with august 31 dumping) i feared it would be too much.
He has never been too kind of threats and he never liked to be called names . I know that because i would lose my patience and result to such comments. I feared the community would break him down. I knew that he acceptance of communication would be broken down.
I have seen too many coin community result to trolls and angry investors to push the leaders away.
yes this is kosmost! he doesn't like swearing. I know most of you find it emasculating feature in this "harsh' side of the world. But there is no need to be shocked
Please , lets all come together and cut this drama short and move on.
if you want kosmost to stay then post and let him know.
Truth is that he always tried to be clear with what he was doing (excpet lill.com, that is a mystery)
+1 I would change just one thing. I would make you understand that trolling is a natural part of Internet, forums and Karma and you should always ignore trolling. I can't understand why paying attention to idiots. Ignore them.
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p4r4m0un7
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September 10, 2014, 03:51:53 AM |
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LINE UP FOLKS FREE BLINDERS I SAID FREE LINE UP
Sorry dude... I can't handle all your single line posts one after another. Why not write what you have to say in a single post? For now I'm adding you to my IGNORE list to keep this thread readable. Exactly. This is so simple solution. All should try it.
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toeshe
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September 10, 2014, 03:58:02 AM |
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i did ask what karma was ? it is to cheat best cheaters win ill cash out as a lost at 22 and will attack
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bitwho
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September 10, 2014, 03:58:21 AM |
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we should make a red color font warning at OP:
Warning: This coin is different from other coins. The leaders do not care about your day trading. No remorse at all. You choose yourself to day trade your coins and lost them yourself. We are known to spend time to build up something that looks promising and closing it down the next day. You will most likely get burned if you tried to sell on the news. Best advice is buy an amount that your comfortable with and bury your wallet to the ground. Then volunteer to do the work because the leaders will not do it for you!
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toeshe
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September 10, 2014, 04:01:17 AM |
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i am the toeshe defender of ALL CHILDREN ...learn folks
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kosmost
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September 10, 2014, 04:36:45 AM |
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I wasn't asking for anecdotes but for actual legal wording.
How ironic -- that is the same thing I asked of you :-) If you REALLY want legal wording then YOU should hire a lawyer I was excited to see a potential method for crowd-sourced equity versus looking into a Small Company Offering Registration (SCOR) You have failed to produce ANY legal briefing or provide some shred of documentation that you've had a law firm review your offering. At least I paid to have a lawyer render an opinion and I can sure as hell tell you that I trust his advice over anything I've read here. -dvd It has been reviewed. But as the community knows, we were hoping to afford more thorough legal counsel. We also provided information on the actual law, not just a lawyer's preliminary opinion. I did not give you anecdotes. We are talking in circles.
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toeshe
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September 10, 2014, 04:44:42 AM |
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come on give it up you have hurt us much go away
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toeshe
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September 10, 2014, 04:46:51 AM |
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you are hurting efforts just please go away i predicked you just leave
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September 10, 2014, 04:49:01 AM |
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Toeshe, you get the fuck out of here! you annoying brat
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toeshe
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September 10, 2014, 04:49:58 AM |
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I will hound you til justice is satifing
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easteagle13
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September 10, 2014, 05:13:11 AM |
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And?
Are we bent in dragging the community lower than where it is now?
Come on guys...regroup, reorganize. And show you are willing to risk your own money where your mouth is. Make a working capital for karma. in ESCROW.
If the air does not clear within 48 hours. And no progress is shown in this community after that. Let us accept that this coin is done for. Move on with our lives.
Words and actions go together. One proves the other.
Say. DO.
DO. Say.
Or STFU. 48 hours and this community loses another active member. (I'll hang on to what coin I have sure, bu I wont be taking part in any toxic thread)
Good Karma to everyone.
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kosmost
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September 10, 2014, 05:17:20 AM |
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i was angry at him before it was cool lol! HIPSTER! ni:)
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kosmost
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September 10, 2014, 05:19:22 AM |
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yes he told me he makes 12mil a yr to
No, I said that is what I charge for my time. I do not bill out 8 hours/day but I do work a full day. Nevermind these details. Better to talk about how we can improve Karma in a way that will truly benefit others.
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p4r4m0un7
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September 10, 2014, 05:21:45 AM |
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Ignore list work just fine. I don't see why you spend time on pointless conversations with sick people. Go to your profile, open ignore options and add user that you want to ignore. So simple. Don't waste time with idiots.
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kosmost
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September 10, 2014, 05:22:44 AM |
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then he said less is more? i dont get that part. i took it as immature? dont know
I think he meant the lesson was for everyone including himself. By "less is more" I mean that making money takes a lot of important things away from you. I learned that the hard way. That's why I continue to focus on value over price. It would be like thinking about money more than what is truly important in life, and for the real benefit of Karma. We will not get far focused on price. In fact, it might make us too emotional Price goes up, we talk excitedly without talking about real value. Price goes down, we get upset without talking about real value.
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toeshe
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September 10, 2014, 05:23:53 AM |
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2 cars a day is your worth or is that a lie?
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kosmost
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September 10, 2014, 05:24:03 AM |
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I JUST HOPE HIS BOYFRIEND FORGIVES HIM
I don't mind your other comments regarding Karma, but you are now officially a troll. *ignore*
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