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June 28, 2014, 02:29:44 PM |
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Hello. I have a lot of question marks in my wallet from minting transactions (which I guess is what you call orphans), so I partly have the same issue as Ruleland in post 1524 (page 77). Haven't seen an answer to this yet so.... Is there a way to get rid of these question marks? Do they disappear if I try to use the -repairwallet command? Or will this be fixed in the next wallet release maybe? This is not really a big deal because everything else works fine, but I would be grateful if someone could enlighten me. Thank you in advance. In the mean time I will lean back in my comfy armchair while the diamonds multiply in my wallet ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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June 28, 2014, 02:54:32 PM |
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Hello. I have a lot of question marks in my wallet from minting transactions (which I guess is what you call orphans), so I partly have the same issue as Ruleland in post 1524 (page 77). Haven't seen an answer to this yet so.... Is there a way to get rid of these question marks? Do they disappear if I try to use the -repairwallet command? Or will this be fixed in the next wallet release maybe? This is not really a big deal because everything else works fine, but I would be grateful if someone could enlighten me. Thank you in advance. In the mean time I will lean back in my comfy armchair while the diamonds multiply in my wallet ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) if u change ur wallet.dat against a old backuped one u wont have this the right blockchain dont have this orphan blocks and ur wallet have saved it as atempts which got not accepted one thing that help avoid orphans is dont unlock wallet for minting if u on wrong blockchain or not finished with sync wallet its a cosmetic issue u dont lose the coin-age from orphan POS atempts
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June 28, 2014, 03:09:27 PM |
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I have a lot of question marks in my wallet from minting transactions (which I guess is what you call orphans), so I partly have the same issue as Ruleland in post 1524 (page 77). Haven't seen an answer to this yet so....
Yes these are orphans and for some reason they are being recorded. I believe it's a blockchain itself and can be cleaned. If we didn't have to deal with assertion error cleaning blockchain would have been our number one priority. Try running -repairwallet (after making a wallet.dat backup) and see if it helps. I had that issue in the beta wallet but the problem went away, and know how annoying it is to see these /?/ transactions. We'll try to address all this with the wallet fix .. for now the best medicine for our suffering is the sight of eagerly multiplying Diamonds. Those orphans were originally not. I had several transactions showing as minting and all had already been confirmed 4 or 5 out to 6 times. Once I closed the wallet and the assertion problem started then the question marks were to be seen everywhere. I have around a total of 6.5 coins in 5 transactions now showing with a question mark. Strangely when I look at the transaction details this is what I see: Status: 0/unconfirmed Date: 26/6/14 23:07 Debit: 0.00 DMD Net amount: -100.193741 DMD Status: 0/unconfirmed Date: 26/6/14 23:10 Debit: 0.00 DMD Net amount: -15.071244 DMD Status: 0/unconfirmed Date: 26/6/14 23:13 Debit: 0.00 DMD Net amount: -6.999485 DMD Status: 0/unconfirmed Date: 26/6/14 23:22 Debit: 0.00 DMD Net amount: -5.002354 DMD Status: 0/unconfirmed Date: 27/6/14 00:16 Debit: 0.00 DMD Net amount: -5.006789 DMD What do those net amounts mean and why are they negative?
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polanskiman
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June 28, 2014, 03:15:16 PM |
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![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Just like polanskiman, porting blockchain doesn't really work, I tried various combinations but each time failed to make a difference. I'm afraid that anything other then a wallet fix won't cut it. Having wallet either permanently opened or permanently closed seems to be the only way of not risking getting the error. I agree with GiGa, that there is no point in hiding transactions such as in DRK. Popularity of Bitcoin for a wider market really took off after Silk Road bust when it stopped being associated with illegal trade. Can some other person confirm that Cryptsy withdrawals work.. has anyone managed to deposit Diamonds there? If a blockchain post dating the PoS is used to sync then the assertion error happens at the wallet launch. That's what I think, and that's why the foundation wallet you uploaded doesn't work. Same error happen if I use a pre-PoS blockchain that would have been synched and now up-to-date. That's why the Original.rar blockchain you uploaded works and also those who have a blockchain backup pre dating PoS.
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June 28, 2014, 03:17:26 PM |
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These net amounts is the way PoS calculates rewards, it can come up with wild numbers but what matters is the final output you get.
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June 28, 2014, 03:19:19 PM |
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These net amounts is the way PoS calculates rewards, it can come up with wild numbers but what matters is the final output you get.
Which seems to be a big fat 0.00 DMD (zero) ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) but I guess I am not the only one.
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June 28, 2014, 03:41:31 PM |
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so..... now what? are we waiting for a new wallet?
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June 28, 2014, 03:49:05 PM |
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so..... now what? are we waiting for a new wallet?
I guess we are.
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polanskiman
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June 28, 2014, 04:13:16 PM |
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Viewing this: The Money supply is stating 458032.03345200, which means 8032.03345200 coins generated in the past 2 days since PoS started. How is this possible? It seems a rather large amount for a short period of time. 18:38:48  getinfo
18:39:44  { "version" : "v2.0.2.1", "protocolversion" : 60006, "walletversion" : 60000, "balance" : CENSORED, "newmint" : 0.00000000, "stake" : 0.00000000, "blocks" : 465704, "moneysupply" : 458032.03345200, "connections" : 16, "proxy" : "", "ip" : "CENSORED", "difficulty" : 42.65972325, "testnet" : false, "keypoololdest" : 1403801640, "keypoolsize" : 101, "paytxfee" : 0.00000000, "unlocked_until" : 0, "errors" : "" }
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June 28, 2014, 05:04:34 PM |
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![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Just like polanskiman, porting blockchain doesn't really work, I tried various combinations but each time failed to make a difference. I'm afraid that anything other then a wallet fix won't cut it. Having wallet either permanently opened or permanently closed seems to be the only way of not risking getting the error. I agree with GiGa, that there is no point in hiding transactions such as in DRK. Popularity of Bitcoin for a wider market really took off after Silk Road bust when it stopped being associated with illegal trade. Can some other person confirm that Cryptsy withdrawals work.. has anyone managed to deposit Diamonds there? Popshot - I tested it this morning - I bought some diamond and sent it to my wallet with no problems. I did not send diamond to cryptsy though.
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June 28, 2014, 05:05:53 PM |
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The Money supply is stating 458032.03345200, which means 8032.03345200 coins generated in the past 2 days since PoS started. How is this possible? It seems a rather large amount for a short period of time.
How is that strange? People PoS'ed and in some respect, coin age for certain Diamond holders must have been massive after months and months of gathering. Clearly something went wrong if you got fat 0, but.. it's still better than if you got skinny zero. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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June 28, 2014, 05:44:14 PM |
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Viewing this:
The Money supply is stating 458032.03345200, which means 8032.03345200 coins generated in the past 2 days since PoS started. How is this possible? It seems a rather large amount for a short period of time.
i would say a rather small amount of coins and a sign the real big coin holder didnt unlock their wallets until yet for POS thats good if not all mint at same timeframe the network protection of POS minting is spread more around the 7 days min age i did expect up to 100000 DMD being minted in first month but it seems much more coin-age got burned by transactions than i was thinking please remember people are able cash in all their gathered coin-age now 450000 /2 (average coinage for around a year) 225000 - destroyed coin-age by transactions (~50%) ------------- ~100000 DMD POS rewards who wait to be minted it seems still so many people dont understand POS and coin-age and burn their coin-age by leave coins on exchange or transfer them around remember u gather no coin-age for coins on exchange once coins got transfered into ur wallet they start gather coin-age again at zero (every transaction burns all coin-age of involved coins)i tell people since months buy the cheap diamonds and transfer them to ur wallets and leave them there gathering coin-age who followed that advice should have some nice POS payouts
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June 28, 2014, 05:48:18 PM |
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I hope everyone knows that the first of July, cryptsy administered verification for their clients. Without verification, daily amount can not exceed $ 1,000 per day. Many people will not agree to such an exchanger. This is the way a broken exchanges mtgox. Diamond will be needed a new large exchanger.
This is an incorrect statement. We have not begun daily limitations on cryptocurrencies yet and will phase it in slowly when we do. In any case, if you do alot of large deposits and withdrawals, then you should really get verified now instead of later. BigVern
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June 28, 2014, 05:58:12 PM |
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im shocked ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) cryptsy support tickets ending in nirvana but bigvern himself posting in our ANN thread ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) thats good news combined with the again working diamond withdraw on cryptsy it show they care thx for feedback bigvern
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June 28, 2014, 06:09:51 PM Last edit: June 28, 2014, 06:27:43 PM by shveicar |
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I hope everyone knows that the first of July, cryptsy administered verification for their clients. Without verification, daily amount can not exceed $ 1,000 per day. Many people will not agree to such an exchanger. This is the way a broken exchanges mtgox. Diamond will be needed a new large exchanger.
This is an incorrect statement. We have not begun daily limitations on cryptocurrencies yet and will phase it in slowly when we do. In any case, if you do alot of large deposits and withdrawals, then you should really get verified now instead of later. BigVern I got this information from the Russian forum. They said that was asked to support these questions and get answers. here https://forum.btcsec.com/index.php?/topic/3210-cryptsycom-birzha-kriptovaliut/page-24If it is not, then I am sorry. P.s Maybe then, you can pay attention to the speedy correcting information about Diamond https://www.cryptsy.com/currencies/view/56
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June 28, 2014, 06:42:45 PM |
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I have 3 "generate" transactions in my wallet, two negative and one positive, whose sum is exactly zero. What does it means?
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hallared
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June 28, 2014, 07:38:20 PM |
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Hello. I have a lot of question marks in my wallet from minting transactions (which I guess is what you call orphans), so I partly have the same issue as Ruleland in post 1524 (page 77). Haven't seen an answer to this yet so.... Is there a way to get rid of these question marks? Do they disappear if I try to use the -repairwallet command? Or will this be fixed in the next wallet release maybe? This is not really a big deal because everything else works fine, but I would be grateful if someone could enlighten me. Thank you in advance. In the mean time I will lean back in my comfy armchair while the diamonds multiply in my wallet ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) if u change ur wallet.dat against a old backuped one u wont have this....... Yes, that did the trick. Thank you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I actually thought of trying just that, but was afraid I might ruin the whole wallet (and myself too ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ) after being on the wrong chain for a while.
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June 28, 2014, 07:50:13 PM |
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With regards to missing PoS and coins.
During the forking period (which, again, was inevitable), many transactions got orphaned, this includes PoS minted coins. In order to recover your missing coins, and their coin age, do an 'checkwallet' RPC or console command. If this returns
{ "wallet check passed" : true }
then everything is fine and you do not suffer from this situation.
If not, issue 'repairwallet' (RPC or console), which will recover your coins back in the wallet.
Important: Because of the way PoS works, you should never restore your wallet from an old copy, once you have minted coins via PoS. This is, because PoS (sometimes) creates new private/public keys (addresses in your wallet) and sends minted coins to these addresses in your wallet. If you restore an old wallet you will not have the secret keys and your minted amounts will be gone for good. Once you start minting, always make frequent backups of your wallet.dat file!
If you need to sync a block chain from scratch or from an older backup (any point in time is ok), the fastest way is this:
1. comment our any addnode= lines in your diamond.conf file.
2. add connect=193.68.21.19 to the diamond.conf file. We know this node is running the latest wallet code and has safe block chain (it is being tested from time to time). You can of course use any other node which has current wallet version and known good block chain.
Having only one connect line in the configuration file ensures you cannot end up in the wrong block chain during download.
One way to create "cleaner" block chain is to start from the beginning with only this/such node setup, up until the latest block. This process will avoid downloading "new" orphans and will have much smaller block index database. Again, make sure you have frequent backups of the wallet.dat file.
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June 28, 2014, 08:57:10 PM |
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I have 3 "generate" transactions in my wallet, two negative and one positive, whose sum is exactly zero. What does it means?
Got it. The pos reward is in the fees. They go into the default account.
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