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July 23, 2014, 08:19:49 PM
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So here is my question, and it means everything to people's current investment.

Is their any plans to improve PR and or marketing? Not a "it's coming soon" But a real plan? If this is as good as it gets. I think 23k is a great price to get out and save a couple bucks.

You cannot go mainstream without a plan. Simply saying you to want to be mainstream, and making products with no demand, and very little attempt to create it looks.. well bad. I would be more than happy to do anything I can, but the lack of organization for such efforts is crazy.

Build it (the infrastructure) and they will come (customers, investors)

Problem is you can't convince anyone to buy a VeriCoin right now, and with good reason. Look at how organized we are. Did you know we have a community manager? I didn't. That is one of the most important keys to success, is a well organized community. We need the community to grow the coin, thousands of people working together, using peoples strengths can be such a powerful tool. Yet the only thing people care about in VeriCoin chat is posting moon pictures and saying "its just a a dip!" tomorrow 500k!

I agree we need to build things, and work harder. But with money just pouring out of the coin, a lack of organization, and to boot some of the worst luck in crypto with the mintpal hack... We are doomed without a proper plan of action. I thought it was a chance for us to seperate and bring in all sorts of people. All the mintpal hack did was lose us the core crypto nerds, and gain us no outsiders. We could have made the mintpal hack the best or worst thing to happen to a coin. Seperation in crypto is big, and we had a chance to do it. And we failed. Now we are just another crypto in peoples eyes. I for one will fight for this coin, but if its not worth fighting for, then I will move on and wish you all luck.

The coin has got as far it can get with 3 devs working. Time to expand the core group and the regional initiative is a way to engage real people for real meaningful work.
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July 23, 2014, 08:27:57 PM
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pnosker.  I know you don't see it as a priority.  But knock out the best decentralized anon solution that works and Vericoin will become the most demanded coin.  People already see Vericoin as making inroads into easier public adoption, but the current market truly rewards those developers who are serious about user privacy and are committed to developing features that provide true decentralized anonymity.  Especially with New York's incorrect move to create the bit license, user privacy is even more important to implement the best and correctly.

TLDR:  Make a fully decentralized anonymous coin infrastructure that allows for adding a decentralized exchange/classifieds/craigslist type service on top of it and THIS COIN WILL DESTROY ALL COMERS.
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July 23, 2014, 08:31:29 PM
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This either must be a joke and these three guys have no idea what they are doing or this a very nicely orchestrated scam with the sole purpose of making US$ 300K-400K and let ppl hold the bag.


You hit the nail on the head. This is a classic case of IT people gone awry. They have no clue what they are doing from a marketing standpoint. I've voiced my opinion on this many times in this chat forum but making the educated decision to present both Wiz and Socal as part of the team has been detrimental to their success.

Also PNosker continuously saying "we don't care about price", "we don't care about traders" is just plain stupid. Either they truly don't care about making money (which seems crazy to me but is plausible) or they don't realize how to run a publicly traded piece of equity, like an altcoin.

IMHO we have the classic case of a team of developers with all the books smarts and none of the street smarts.

Would you like to volunteer? We never said we were marketing geniuses. In fact, we asked for someone to help manage this early on and sdmathis volunteered to be a community manager, but we really need more.

I said we don't care about price in the sense that we will not release news/features specifically to manipulate price. I make enough money to live reasonably without crypto so I don't need to sell off when the coin starts tanking. Doug/David/I all are in the same boat. We're doing this not as unemployed developers looking to make a quick buck but because we saw a void between crypto and the real world and we wanted to fix it. Play the blame game all you want and feel free to speculate more, but we're doing what we can do and if you or someone else wants to help us push with marketing we would really appreciate it. If you honestly think there's a better coin with better real developers and marketing perhaps you can direct us to their information so we can see if we can adapt better. Almost all I see when I look at the selection of coins are scams, developers that have a Google Hangout and curse off investors, etc.

We are real people trying to build a real coin and ecosystem. Believe it or not, it's up to you.

I actually would like to volunteer! I have contacted you by e-mail, in IRC channels and now on bitcointalk.org =p

And I honestly don't think there is a better coin out there! Which is again why I put all my money behind this coin, reached out to you to help and have been on this chat forum and IRC channels almost 24/7 for the last 5 weeks.
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July 23, 2014, 08:38:53 PM
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         As can be seen in the graphics market: Crypts and Bittrex, the volumes Vericon exchanged are much lower. We're talking about fluctuations correspond to 5 to 10 k units (recently in the last hours well below 0.5 and 0.2 k). which does not impose the final value. What actually is happening is somewhat speculative. Only those who suffer from anxiety are willing to sacrifice investment capital, because they conceived the idea of ​​loss of profit, they are the ones who are experiencing the loss.

    The worst  tragedy is that most of them end up losing in the famous pumps are arranged.


1 -) Be patient.
2 -) Try to encourage investment.
3 -) Promote safe  house exchanges.
4 -) The most important add value to vericoin, How? "Promote it's advantages in forums, shopping centers and other entities.

Today 1 Vericon = 20 cents, Tomorrow who knows?


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July 23, 2014, 08:43:50 PM
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This either must be a joke and these three guys have no idea what they are doing or this a very nicely orchestrated scam with the sole purpose of making US$ 300K-400K and let ppl hold the bag.


You hit the nail on the head. This is a classic case of IT people gone awry. They have no clue what they are doing from a marketing standpoint. I've voiced my opinion on this many times in this chat forum but making the educated decision to present both Wiz and Socal as part of the team has been detrimental to their success.

Also PNosker continuously saying "we don't care about price", "we don't care about traders" is just plain stupid. Either they truly don't care about making money (which seems crazy to me but is plausible) or they don't realize how to run a publicly traded piece of equity, like an altcoin.

IMHO we have the classic case of a team of developers with all the books smarts and none of the street smarts.

Would you like to volunteer? We never said we were marketing geniuses. In fact, we asked for someone to help manage this early on and sdmathis volunteered to be a community manager, but we really need more.

I said we don't care about price in the sense that we will not release news/features specifically to manipulate price. I make enough money to live reasonably without crypto so I don't need to sell off when the coin starts tanking. Doug/David/I all are in the same boat. We're doing this not as unemployed developers looking to make a quick buck but because we saw a void between crypto and the real world and we wanted to fix it. Play the blame game all you want and feel free to speculate more, but we're doing what we can do and if you or someone else wants to help us push with marketing we would really appreciate it. If you honestly think there's a better coin with better real developers and marketing perhaps you can direct us to their information so we can see if we can adapt better. Almost all I see when I look at the selection of coins are scams, developers that have a Google Hangout and curse off investors, etc.

We are real people trying to build a real coin and ecosystem. Believe it or not, it's up to you.

I actually would like to volunteer! I have contacted you by e-mail, in IRC channels and now on bitcointalk.org =p

And I honestly don't think there is a better coin out there! Which is again why I put all my money behind this coin, reached out to you to help and have been on this chat forum and IRC channels almost 24/7 for the last 5 weeks.

Sorry-- probably got lost in the many channels we have. Please email me at pnosker@vericoin.info and let's talk! Smiley

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July 23, 2014, 08:46:19 PM
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Whats the status of development nowadays? I cant find anything through all this nonsense posts from Fudders and crying traders.
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July 23, 2014, 08:50:33 PM
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Whats the status of development nowadays? I cant find anything through all this nonsense posts from Fudders and crying traders.

I believe the devs are working on a second rollback to >35K satoshi.

Let's see how this works out for them!

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July 23, 2014, 08:55:45 PM
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The amount of negativity and trash-talking in this thread is ridiculous. You can also notice how it really ramps up whenever the price drops, indicating that most of the people spreading this shit are only interested in making money. I have no interest in promoting VRC, I'm just honestly sick of this, especially when posts are attacking the dev team. The devs have done a lot of good work and they've stuck with their coin, unlike 99% of the shitcoins that plague the crypto community. They also regularly communicate and update the coin and its features. Even if you don't believe in the coin, stop being a jackass. I would honestly start handing out warnings and bans to some of the posters here if I was a bitcointalk mod.

Oh and also, for the love of god, stop posting those retarded pictures like "vericedes-benz" that promote the belief of striking it rich if you buy into VRC. They do nothing to promote the legitimacy of the coin.

All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.
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July 23, 2014, 08:57:23 PM
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Whats the status of development nowadays? I cant find anything through all this nonsense posts from Fudders and crying traders.

I believe the devs are working on a second rollback to >35K satoshi.

Let's see how this works out for them!

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Haha.... this is what I was thinking as it was free falling to 20.
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July 23, 2014, 08:59:00 PM
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A great place to start branding ourselves, would be to STOP comparing it to freeking blackcoin all the time. I am sick of hearing how we are like ANY other coin in ANY regard. If we want to innovate a new frontier, PLEASE, for the love of god stop talking about BLACKCOIN!


Again the mention of BC, a dying coin with a history of fraud and corrupt to the core. Why Patrick?

The hiring of the Borgess Agency is one of the most laughed off decisions ever happening in crypto. Everyone knows by now that moriture13/doghnip, an employee of the Borgess Agency and visible lead of The Black Hand, was behind and subsidizing it in part. Why even mention that here?

The need, even though you probably won't recognize it, is there as I have stated before. But hiring a PR agency is NOT the answer. Associating with Joel Bosch, a tainted individual, also Black Hand, was not wise even if it was somehow inevitable. Distancing from him IS indeed wise. as is distancing from Will, no matter how much of a good friend he might be. And finding someone who, first, cares for the image of VRC and, more importantly, KNOWS how to preserve that image. It may cost. Or he may be freely available. Have you tried to find him? Or you just believe you are perfectly capable of doing it? Because you aren't, sorry.

I'm not sure if you two realize this, but I used the example of BC because they are the only altcoin with a PR Agency representing them... Not because we're trying to compare to them. altcoinUK stated that we "couldn't even manage to hire a PR firm." I'm saying, "show us the money" and we'll hire one. An approximate cost is $32,000. So, if someone wants to send us $32,000 we can hire one. Not saying anything about BC besides the fact that they have a PR firm and it's almost useless for them.



If you don't have the money, then what makes you think you can sell a new payment method to the general masses? Because such a mission would take millions of dollars.

Vericoin's mission statement, its reason for being, is one you guys can't afford.

Anyways I just bought some VRC right now, because it's at a good price. Don't forget what you read previously about creating the best decentralized anon. Your team has the talent for such a goal, one which is more realistic.

(edit: I removed a mistake I made about Coblee, I thought he insulted vrc by using the word "parasite", but it wasn't him. I see now that the reddit debate was copy/pasted here in this thread very badly, should have read the original postings on reddit itself)


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July 23, 2014, 09:02:01 PM
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A great place to start branding ourselves, would be to STOP comparing it to freeking blackcoin all the time. I am sick of hearing how we are like ANY other coin in ANY regard. If we want to innovate a new frontier, PLEASE, for the love of god stop talking about BLACKCOIN!


Again the mention of BC, a dying coin with a history of fraud and corrupt to the core. Why Patrick?

The hiring of the Borgess Agency is one of the most laughed off decisions ever happening in crypto. Everyone knows by now that moriture13/doghnip, an employee of the Borgess Agency and visible lead of The Black Hand, was behind and subsidizing it in part. Why even mention that here?

The need, even though you probably won't recognize it, is there as I have stated before. But hiring a PR agency is NOT the answer. Associating with Joel Bosch, a tainted individual, also Black Hand, was not wise even if it was somehow inevitable. Distancing from him IS indeed wise. as is distancing from Will, no matter how much of a good friend he might be. And finding someone who, first, cares for the image of VRC and, more importantly, KNOWS how to preserve that image. It may cost. Or he may be freely available. Have you tried to find him? Or you just believe you are perfectly capable of doing it? Because you aren't, sorry.

I'm not sure if you two realize this, but I used the example of BC because they are the only altcoin with a PR Agency representing them... Not because we're trying to compare to them. altcoinUK stated that we "couldn't even manage to hire a PR firm." I'm saying, "show us the money" and we'll hire one. An approximate cost is $32,000. So, if someone wants to send us $32,000 we can hire one. Not saying anything about BC besides the fact that they have a PR firm and it's almost useless for them.


If you don't have the money, then what makes you think you can sell a new payment method to the general masses? Because such a mission would take millions of dollars.

Vericoin's mission statement, its reason for being, is one you guys can't afford.

And when Coblee calls Vericoin  "a parasite", don't reply with "I respect your opinion, I look up to you". What do you think the general masses (which you are going for) will think when they read that? This Coblee didn't treat you with the same respect you gave him, so he's not really "family". A real family member would not have done that. In what way is this guy related to you? Some very weird dysfunctional family values this guy has.

Anyways I just bought some VRC right now, because it's at a good price. Don't forget what you read previously about creating the best decentralized anon. Your team has the talent for such a goal, one which is more realistic.





I thought I hit the nail on the head when I call it RADIOACTIVE, but a PARASITE is just as good if not better.

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July 23, 2014, 09:10:38 PM
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This is a great time to expand, my friends did not want to get in because they thought the price was too high now they are selling their crap coin and jumping in while it is cheap. I am hoping for a huge upswing soon hopefully not too fast I am having a great time seeing my miners bring in so much coin. Also selling out of others to get in at a cheaper price since I originally got in at 32 Smiley

I like the quote you have under your name Grin
i like it so and it is true alot of people do panic sell and buy

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July 23, 2014, 09:11:01 PM
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I vow to use veribit to make my next amazon purchase via gyft.  Sure I could just use bitcoin as usual but I will do my part in testing this feature.  That is all.

No deal, McCutcheon, that moon money is mine!
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July 23, 2014, 09:17:07 PM
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Their is SIMPLY no interest in the real world of a payment system as ridiculously volatile and untrustworthy as crypto.
These are the facts no matter how much you love Vericoin and the Devs.
The majority want Veri to succeed, I can feel it. But its crypto, and the "demand" has been fucked thx to multipools, fake Devs, and pump groups.
Keep dreaming guys! The anger stage is here, acceptance is soon.


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If you don't have the money, then what makes you think you can sell a new payment method to the general masses? Because such a mission would take millions of dollars.

Vericoin's mission statement, its reason for being, is one you guys can't afford.

And when Coblee calls Vericoin  "a parasite", don't reply with "I respect your opinion, I look up to you". What do you think the general masses (which you are going for) will think when they read that? This Coblee didn't treat you with the same respect you gave him, so he's not really "family". A real family member would not have done that. In what way is this guy related to you? Some very weird dysfunctional family values this guy has.

Anyways I just bought some VRC right now, because it's at a good price. Don't forget what you read previously about creating the best decentralized anon. Your team has the talent for such a goal, one which is more realistic.




Charlie didn't call VRC a parasite, someone else in the thread on Reddit did. Charlie is family. The other devs and I got dinner with him in Chicago. He disagrees with what we did in terms of the roll back but he owns VeriCoin himself.

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July 23, 2014, 09:36:39 PM
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Anyways I just bought some VRC right now, because it's at a good price. Don't forget what you read previously about creating the best decentralized anon. Your team has the talent for such a goal, one which is more realistic.




Can't give details on it at this point, but we have a great strategy for completely decentralized, efficient, VeriSend, completely rewritten.
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July 23, 2014, 09:43:33 PM
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Charlie didn't call VRC a parasite, someone else in the thread on Reddit did. Charlie is family. The other devs and I got dinner with him in Chicago. He disagrees with what we did in terms of the roll back but he owns VeriCoin himself.


 Embarrassed whoops, feel bad about that. I need new glasses.

(edit: I see now that the reddit debate was copy/pasted here in this thread very badly, should have read the original postings on reddit itself)

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Anyways I just bought some VRC right now, because it's at a good price. Don't forget what you read previously about creating the best decentralized anon. Your team has the talent for such a goal, one which is more realistic.




Can't give details on it at this point, but we have a great strategy for completely decentralized, efficient, VeriSend, completely rewritten.

So these are the dev goals now, right? Sounds cool.
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July 23, 2014, 10:01:40 PM
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Every time before we where at a technical make or break point, we would get news about something "soon". Any chance to make healthy corrections where lost during the pumps. Now I think the day traders realize this won't go up 100% a day everyday and they are panic'd.

F'kin idiots.

Meanwhile, Everyone runs around like a chicken with their head cut off, No leadership, sigh.

Lost 1/3 our value in a day. Anytime I tried to get things on track, nothing. Nobody is near NYC that can try to make an effort to go outside and drop a paper wallet in a few iconic locations and create a game and some buzz about vericoin? Honestly, where is the coordination, the "team" is 3 people and a loosely affiliated gang of helpers is madness. Where do people go to solve issues, and create things for VRC?

I want to help create something big here but the more I think about it. Current money flow is showing that people are giving up on vericoin in masses in the last day alone? How are we going to create anything, bring in any support and create products for vericoin if nobody knows / cares about it?


I am so frustrated its hard to put into words. We can do better, but the more I think about it. Maybe its time to move on if nobody else gets it, or cares to make it better. I am sure someone will chime in and say this or that, but the fact of the matter is the products aren't wowing people enough. The words and hype created was bigger than any feature we released, and this is sad. Simply having a vision to be mainstream doesn't look like its going to be enough.

Your fighting this forum more or less on your own, give or take a few others...

We who hold vericoin Appreciate your efforts, but i fear your talent is waisted in this forum.

Did you tell your friend hes was gonna be rich from a 2 btc investment in a week, if so you are not on your own.

I have Family and Friends invested in this coin. But i made sure they was told it was long term investment and could
be a heavy contender in the land of crypto. In the long term. !.

 Its not gonna be easy to reword what you laid out to him.
After all ROME was not built in a day...

Unless its called romecoin with a hidden dev and agenda. and thats where the quick bucks are.


Truth is we are all here in new unchartered territory. with most ALT COIN's.

A coins uniqueness and integration etc does not come over night.

You me and alot of others are in the same boat. Main thing is We are a huge majority in a big vessel.

So time for weak hands to jump ship...

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We are a huge majority in a big vessel.

Your delusional as they come, Their would be 40 investors at most involved in Vericoin left.
Time to revolutionize the world hey.
Are video games real too?
Crypo SUX! Great set of people around with no life.
Anyway Ive had my peace, see you on the next scam to take over the hope of people!

I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery!
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