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July 24, 2014, 10:55:09 PM
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phzi wasn't a troll.
He probably left pissed off after that FryguyUK abused him.
Wankers like that make anyone want to leave.

But Bob omg, what a crackpot. Cheesy

At least some people get it...  And yes, bob is a huge troll - an amusing one at least tho.

To be clear:
I have no monetary interest in inflating or deflating the VRC value.  I just have strong opinions about the actions taken by the developers, and the viability of this coin.  If you take the time to read the thread around when the MintPal rollback happened, you'll see there are many many more that agree with what I have to say.  Anyone claiming I have monetary interests is falsely trying to discredit me, and rather obviously has a monetary interest in propping up VRC themselves.

I'll say again too, because some people are ignoring my previous statement obvious: I've never supported another coin in this thread, nor would I...

If you think I'm a troll, you're a fool.
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July 24, 2014, 10:59:55 PM
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I very strongly disagree. VRC should maintain the standard and never, ever, exercise any form of censorship, no matter what.

Eh?   What does censorship have to do with an official client/wallet/app having a link to a third party discussion group that is focused on another digital currency (Bitcointalk.org).  If there wasn't already a set of official forums, I'd agree that having the link going to *something* is better than nothing, but they have official forums set up, why link to a Bitcointalk *thread* within a forum rather than a full forum ?
 
This is not a censorship issue, this is a logic issue.

Note the wording on the button in the wallet, it says 'Forum' .. not 'Thread within a Bitcoin Forum' ... it only makes sense to have that link direct people to the Vericoin Forum

The answer is very simple: The official forum is under the full control of the devs. And, in spite of THIS forum, they have made very clear that they want to censor the forum and the IRC. Sorry but a spade is a spade.

Furthermore, for anyone wanting to know stuff, good bad and ugly, about any coin, VRC included, these forums are not just the main but first entry gate.

These forums are successful, precisely for that. Any alternatives, are just for the purpose of control/censorship, there's no other reason no matter what the excuses are. But forget about ALL of this: They simply do not work. They are not good for the coin. A clear example? As much as I hate to mention such scammy one it is the more evident: Blackcoin.

You do NOT want to follow on their footsteps.

Look, one thing this dev team doesn't take well is criticism. They have been pretty candid and open about it too: They would eliminate the posts that they don't like. They have stated that -and done that on IRC-, right here. If they are given the opportunity, they will indeed censor the forum. And that is not good for a coin that set higher standards for honesty, transparency and integrity and that MUST keep on holding those standards at the maximum levels possible.

Furthermore, as we have very recently experienced -and continue experiencing- the posts of people like Bobsurplus, smoothie and others, especially those from the blackcoin carrion vultures fan club, etc., not only don't disturb the flow of exchange, vitality, dynamism and information that are signs of a coin which is alive and in contact with both the community and the new people coming into crypto, but actually help since their intentions/motivations are so transparent and the rest take them for what they are quite easily.

Or, the wiser ones, simply hit "ignore".
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July 24, 2014, 11:04:53 PM
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Furthermore, as we have very recently experienced -and continue experiencing- the posts of people like Bobsurplus, smoothie and others, especially those from the blackcoin carrion vultures fan club, etc., not only don't disturb the flow of exchange, vitality, dynamism and information that are signs of a coin which is alive and in contact with both the community and the new people coming into crypto, but actually help since their intentions/motivations are so transparent and the rest take them for what they are quite easily.
Gotta ask - what exactly were smoothie's transparent intentions/motivations, exactly?

I'd think that anyone who knows smoothie from a hole in the ground wouldn't have said that...

Bobsurplus... sure, obvious troll who's having fun...  but smoothie?  really?
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July 24, 2014, 11:06:04 PM
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Good call, ignored both of those trolls (bobsurplus and phzi). It is so blatantly obvious when people have a monetary agenda and just spam the same crap over and over like puppets.

You can get the latest list of fudders here so that you do not have to listen to the nonsense.
http://www.vericoinish.com/index.php/blog/the-fud-list

Needs more, SkyValeey  keshuker  mrkavasaki  ItsNotMe

I don't agree with barabbas being on that list though, there are people who you can disagree with but understand they are not FUD slingers, just different opinion havers ('smoothie' another example imo).

I am going to change it to a poll sometime tonight, so you guys could vote on who are FUD and who are not this way the choice is not just left in 1 or 2 peoples hands, sound fair ?

What an exercise in plain, raw idiocy. I don't give two shits where you choose to put me in, idioty, but what are the rest of the people, imbeciles that don't know and cannot evaluate the postings of others and you have to make a stupid guide/list with a few handles, some if not most of them created for the sole purpose of attacking VRC?

Some levels of idiocy are difficult to even fathom. Wow.
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July 24, 2014, 11:09:36 PM
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phzi wasn't a troll.
He probably left pissed off after that FryguyUK abused him.
Wankers like that make anyone want to leave.

But Bob omg, what a crackpot. Cheesy

At least some people get it...  And yes, bob is a huge troll - an amusing one at least tho.

To be clear:
I have no monetary interest in inflating or deflating the VRC value.  I just have strong opinions about the actions taken by the developers, and the viability of this coin.  If you take the time to read the thread around when the MintPal rollback happened, you'll see there are many many more that agree with what I have to say.  Anyone claiming I have monetary interests is falsely trying to discredit me, and rather obviously has a monetary interest in propping up VRC themselves.

I'll say again too, because some people are ignoring my previous statement obvious: I've never supported another coin in this thread, nor would I...

If you think I'm a troll, you're a fool.

The problem is when you read into why somebody goes to the effort off re-highlighting issues that are further in the past everyday, why now? while it falls? why not a week ago?

I won't deny I support this coin because I want to see it do well, are you denying you're repeating shills because you want to see the coin tumble? Surely you have better things to do if neither is the case!
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July 24, 2014, 11:11:35 PM
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I AM NOW LIVE ON VRCRADIO.COM TUNE IN SHOOT ME YOUR QUESTIONS ON IRC OR TWITTER AND ROCK OUT!!!!!
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July 24, 2014, 11:14:07 PM
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Furthermore, as we have very recently experienced -and continue experiencing- the posts of people like Bobsurplus, smoothie and others, especially those from the blackcoin carrion vultures fan club, etc., not only don't disturb the....

I highly disagree with this and still do not find it logical to link a third party forum that is Bitcoin-centric rather than official forums.  Or change the button to read "Bitcointalk Vericoin Forum" and not just "Forum".     I trust the devs in allowing free speech on their forums (and being able to decipher that from people who are just trolling).  I do not have experience with the IRC chan, but so far the subreddit ( http://reddit.com/r/Vericoin ) seems very free of deleted posts and bans and etc, with people being allowed to be vocal with their dislike of aspects of the coin or etc.     This thread though, is just one thread on a Bitcoin forum, this is not even a 'Forum'.. just a thread.  


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July 24, 2014, 11:14:55 PM
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Furthermore, as we have very recently experienced -and continue experiencing- the posts of people like Bobsurplus, smoothie and others, especially those from the blackcoin carrion vultures fan club, etc., not only don't disturb the flow of exchange, vitality, dynamism and information that are signs of a coin which is alive and in contact with both the community and the new people coming into crypto, but actually help since their intentions/motivations are so transparent and the rest take them for what they are quite easily.
Gotta ask - what exactly were smoothie's transparent intentions/motivations, exactly?

I'd think that anyone who knows smoothie from a hole in the ground wouldn't have said that...

Bobsurplus... sure, obvious troll who's having fun...  but smoothie?  really?

Yep, really. And yours too.

But learn to read. That your intentions may be transparent to anyone with a minimal capacity to think, don't mean some conspiracy theories necessarily. You can very well be -or smoothie can- one of the so-called "purists" that so happen to decide to attack VRC in the forums, with all kind of "rollback/Bernanke" shit. Who cares what you or Smoothie or whoever wants to convince themselves of. What you actually do is attack, out of sync and for the purpose of bringing the price down, VRC. And people, all people above the mental level of a 5 year old, see through that very easily and either adopt the position (ha!) or discard it with or without prejudice/ad hominens, etc. Clear now? It is all the same shit with different wrapping, yours is soaked in cheap parfum and made to order, but stinks just the same.

People with opinions (quite respectable) post them, if so compelled, one time. End of story. People who post those same opinions or variations of them again and again and again, while a coin experiments an unrelated sell off (want some examples of coins that have suffered more sell offs during the same period? I have a couple right off the top of my mind, so it is quite clear it is totally unrelated to the rollback), obviously have an agenda beyond the original point.

You do. Whether you want to admit it or not. Smoothie did, likewise. And so does, yes the surplus idiot.
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July 24, 2014, 11:18:39 PM
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Furthermore, as we have very recently experienced -and continue experiencing- the posts of people like Bobsurplus, smoothie and others, especially those from the blackcoin carrion vultures fan club, etc., not only don't disturb the....

I highly disagree with this and still do not find it logical to link a third party forum that is Bitcoin-centric rather than official forums.  Or change the button to read "Bitcointalk Vericoin Forum" and not just "Forum".     I trust the devs in allowing free speech on their forums.  I do not have experience with the IRC chan, but so far the subreddit ( http://reddit.com/r/Vericoin ) seems very free of deleted posts and bans and etc, with people being allowed to be vocal with their dislike of aspects of the coin or etc.     This thread though, is just one thread on a Bitcoin forum, this is not even a 'Forum'.. just a thread.  



Well then you want to trust them if they tell you tomorrow that monkeys fly out of their asses because, and I repeat: They -specifically Nokster- have stated, right here, that they would delete posts that they don't like if they could. And people has been, and is, customarily abused and banned -_ am, for instance- on the IRC channel. So you can choose to trust whatever you want but reality is something entirely different from what you choose to trust. Already is, not anticipating things, ALREADY happened.
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July 24, 2014, 11:19:34 PM
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It is all the same shit with different wrapping, yours is soaked in cheap parfum and made to order, but stinks just the same.
Great point.  A reason why I guess I never put smoothie on ignore.  phzi's posts are cheap/thoughtless/almost childlike anger in them (a reason I had to put that "CodeHunter" on ignore, though a VRC 'supporter'... it was just sad to see his posts).

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July 24, 2014, 11:19:43 PM
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I AM NOW LIVE ON VRCRADIO.COM TUNE IN SHOOT ME YOUR QUESTIONS ON IRC OR TWITTER AND ROCK OUT!!!!!

And this is like giving matches to a pyromaniac.

Wow, wow, wow.
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July 24, 2014, 11:21:24 PM
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Well then you want to trust them if they tell you tomorrow that monkeys fly out of their asses because, and I repeat: They -specifically Nokster- have stated, right here, that they would delete posts that they don't like if they could. And people has been, and is, customarily abused and banned -_ am, for instance- on the IRC channel. So you can choose to trust whatever you want but reality is something entirely different from what you choose to trust. Already is, not anticipating things, ALREADY happened.
So far I guess I do trust them in that aspect, only having the reddit background to see the three do modding on, which is very lenient from what I can see.     Either way, if this thread is to be linked as a "Forum" then it should be labeled as such "Thread within a Bitcoin Forum"

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July 24, 2014, 11:25:46 PM
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Well then you want to trust them if they tell you tomorrow that monkeys fly out of their asses because, and I repeat: They -specifically Nokster- have stated, right here, that they would delete posts that they don't like if they could. And people has been, and is, customarily abused and banned -_ am, for instance- on the IRC channel. So you can choose to trust whatever you want but reality is something entirely different from what you choose to trust. Already is, not anticipating things, ALREADY happened.
So far I guess I do trust them in that aspect, only having the reddit background to see the three do modding on, which is very lenient from what I can see.     Either way, if this thread is to be linked as a "Forum" then it should be labeled as such "Thread within a Bitcoin Forum"

The whole point is pretty much moot because those who have the wallet will already, presumably, be investors in VRC so they have already made their decision about the investment and they would be certainly quite capable of making their decisions about what is the forum that they want to read/participate in, so not much point in discussing this I believe.
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July 24, 2014, 11:28:39 PM
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The VeriFUD List is up and polling, dam I didnt realize how many people read this.

http://www.vericoinish.com/index.php/blog/the-fud-list
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July 25, 2014, 12:25:03 AM
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The VeriFUD List is up and polling, dam I didnt realize how many people read this.

http://www.vericoinish.com/index.php/blog/the-fud-list



34.28% voted for barrabas over Bobsurplus ?!!

God this community has lost all credibility. He's one of your strongest supporters.

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July 25, 2014, 12:41:48 AM
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The VeriFUD List is up and polling, dam I didnt realize how many people read this.

http://www.vericoinish.com/index.php/blog/the-fud-list



34.28% voted for barrabas over Bobsurplus ?!!

God this community has lost all credibility. He's one of your strongest supporters.




It's just a simple misunderstanding.  34% thought they were voting for Most Eligible Bachelor.
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July 25, 2014, 12:43:26 AM
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The VeriFUD List is up and polling, dam I didnt realize how many people read this.

http://www.vericoinish.com/index.php/blog/the-fud-list



34.28% voted for barrabas over Bobsurplus ?!!

God this community has lost all credibility. He's one of your strongest supporters.



The community doesn't participate in such idiocies. Idiots do.
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July 25, 2014, 12:47:54 AM
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Who are the 33 idiots who voted for barrabas?

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July 25, 2014, 01:02:11 AM
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The VeriFUD List is up and polling, dam I didnt realize how many people read this.

http://www.vericoinish.com/index.php/blog/the-fud-list



34.28% voted for barrabas over Bobsurplus ?!!

God this community has lost all credibility. He's one of your strongest supporters.



The community doesn't participate in such idiocies. Idiots do.

The fact that site/poll even exists speaks volumes about where VRC is headed.

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