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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1033439 times)
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June 10, 2014, 07:05:32 AM
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I replace my LTC wallet.dat to clam .
and open clam wallet with argument..
So...Do I keep my clam wallet open and than I will get the clam?

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June 12, 2014, 06:52:42 AM
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I replace my LTC wallet.dat to clam .
and open clam wallet with argument..
So...Do I keep my clam wallet open and than I will get the clam?

Sure, a little explanation is probably in order.

Once your client sync's the block chain past block 10,000, you will know if that wallet has any CLAMS.
Keeping the client open for longer than that, won't give you any more chance to find CLAMS in the wallet.

From a technical perspective:
The CLAMS are already on the chain and controlled by your privateKeys.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147
Proof-Of-Chain, 100% Distributed BEFORE Launch.
Everyone who owned BTC, LTC, or DOGE at launch got free CLAMS.
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June 15, 2014, 04:56:50 PM
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I think this is an interesting idea and would like to try it out. I'm having trouble getting it to work under Debian/Tails. I got the source code, but ran into trouble trying to compile it. I don't want to spend a lot of time on it, so I'll just check again in a few weeks and see if it works then.

I don't think there is anything nefarious about the idea though. On the contrary, it's probably the most fair distribution of a proof-of-stake coin to date.

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June 23, 2014, 07:13:42 AM
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What's happening with the pool?
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June 24, 2014, 07:55:24 AM
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Please forgive us for the extremely extended response time.
There has been some sickness in the Dev team Sad

The Good News:
The more technical folks have kept themselves busy Smiley
Expect a very interesting update in the near future!



I think this is an interesting idea and would like to try it out. I'm having trouble getting it to work under Debian/Tails. I got the source code, but ran into trouble trying to compile it. I don't want to spend a lot of time on it, so I'll just check again in a few weeks and see if it works then.
I don't think there is anything nefarious about the idea though. On the contrary, it's probably the most fair distribution of a proof-of-stake coin to date.

Thank you very much for the kind words! 
We agree completely: You've almost quoted us Smiley

Concerning your trouble compiling the CLAM Client on Debian/Tails:
In situations like these, the details are king.
If you could please post an issue on the CLAMS git.
Add as much detail as possible concerning any errors or steps taken.
More = Better.



What's happening with the pool?

I understand your confusion, completely.

The Good News:
It appears an exchange with exponentially more volume will be listing CLAMS in the near future.
In addition, they intend to distribute the exchange's attributed CLAMS to their users - if everything can be figured out.

The Bad News:
Until that happens, that leaves us with a tough situation.
The BTC from sold alt-coins is safe and sound; but there is no established market to purchase CLAMS for distribution.
Assuming the above deal falls through, the only recourse is somewhat complicated.
It would involve requesting signed messages from miners, verifying those signatures, and distributing BTC directly.
We want to avoid that if at all possible.



Regardless, we have fundamental, and we believe exciting, changes coming to the CLAM Client in the near future.
Yet another feature to set us apart from the sea of altcoins Wink

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147
Proof-Of-Chain, 100% Distributed BEFORE Launch.
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June 27, 2014, 10:09:41 PM
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Official Statement:

We are not involved with this project:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=647611.0

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO IMPORT A WALLET INTO THE ABOVE LINKED PROJECT.
IT IS FROM A THIRD-PARTY AND NOT ASSOCIATED WITH the CLAMClient, or this CLAMS Project.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147
Proof-Of-Chain, 100% Distributed BEFORE Launch.
Everyone who owned BTC, LTC, or DOGE at launch got free CLAMS.
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June 27, 2014, 10:22:24 PM
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Official Statement:

We are not involved with this project:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=647611.0

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO IMPORT A WALLET INTO THE ABOVE LINKED PROJECT.
IT IS FROM A THIRD-PARTY AND NOT ASSOCIATED WITH the CLAMClient, or this CLAMS Project.


They are deleting our attempts to post on their thread, informing their users that we are not associated with their project.

Beware.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147
Proof-Of-Chain, 100% Distributed BEFORE Launch.
Everyone who owned BTC, LTC, or DOGE at launch got free CLAMS.
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July 01, 2014, 04:27:05 AM
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The new Sub-Reddit is now live!

CLAMS Sub-Reddit!

If anyone has any questions or comments, this is a great place to get more personal information. Smiley

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147
Proof-Of-Chain, 100% Distributed BEFORE Launch.
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July 05, 2014, 02:51:46 AM
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Sorry, but I am not handing over my private keys. This looks like a risky precedent. You should have thought of some way for the owners to prove they had the required wallet private key by generating a public key, or sequence of public keys, or sending dust or similar. Any protocol that requires the private keys is suspect.
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July 05, 2014, 03:06:05 AM
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most of the coin is for exchange platform!
I got my 4.6CLAM.
But I think the 4.6CLAM don't have too much value. It now is not worth to apply for it when having potential risk.
I think the biggest winners are exchanges.

I am not quite sure where this sentiment is coming from...

First of all, a responsible exchange would keep the majority of their coins in what are called "Cold Wallets".

The transaction which moves the coins to that cold wallet, would cause them to LOSE any CLAMS they might get from the deposits that make it up.

Further, I think the fact that we do not even HAVE an exchange yet, makes all of this a bit silly.... don't you?...?

wondering here as in op you say you can move your coins OUT to another wallet and still get clams for past transactions...

and here you say "The transaction which moves the coins to that cold wallet, would cause them to LOSE any CLAMS they might get from the deposits that make it up."


which is which  ?

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July 05, 2014, 03:18:55 AM
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Official Statement:

We are not involved with this project:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=647611.0

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO IMPORT A WALLET INTO THE ABOVE LINKED PROJECT.
IT IS FROM A THIRD-PARTY AND NOT ASSOCIATED WITH the CLAMClient, or this CLAMS Project.


 Very confusing. Both projects have interesting features. I like idea to involve girls into promotion...
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July 05, 2014, 03:54:54 AM
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they dont involve girls...they hire for 5$ on fiverr...


now..for multibit paranoid scumbags aka trollers....

click -> file -> new wallet.. name it ( new wallet) click receive get address....copy... click back on old wallet... click send ...paste your new address -> send ALL your coins to new address -0.001 -> click export -> unprotect -> save...

open the file..gather all the addresses you see...open clam ..debug -> console.. importprivkey <ADDRESSHERE> without the <>... do this for all addresses you had in old wallet...

et voila... your coins are safe in a new wallet file + you ge tclams...

for the non tech out there

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July 05, 2014, 04:29:50 AM
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also...

running a diff in balck vs clam /src/base58.h ~-402,10

   void SetSecret(const CSecret& vchSecret, bool fCompressed)
     {
         assert(vchSecret.size() == 32);
-        SetData(128 + (fTestNet ? CBitcoinAddress::PUBKEY_ADDRESS_TEST : CBitcoinAddress::PUBKEY_ADDRESS), &vchSecret[0], vchSecret.size());
+       SetData(fTestNet ? PRIVKEY_ADDRESS_TEST : PRIVKEY_ADDRESS, &vchSecret[0], vchSecret.size());
         if (fCompressed)
             vchData.push_back(1);
     }

why change from pubkey to priv key ?

btw to check diff ( theres a few but no call home functions found i used :

git clone URLGITBLACKCOIN
cd blackcoin
git remote add -f b URLCLAMGIT
git diff master remotes/b/master
git remote rm b

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July 05, 2014, 04:31:12 AM
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The currency time for a long time, now what circumstance?

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July 05, 2014, 05:18:03 AM
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Listed and trading on Poloniex!  Big news for Clams!

Quote from: busoni@poloniex
Poloniex will be giving away all CLAMs earned from our wallets once we safely collect them.
Quote from: busoni@poloniex
CLAM/BTC market added. CLAM has a unique and interesting distribution method; you may already have some.
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July 05, 2014, 05:30:39 AM
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also...

running a diff in balck vs clam /src/base58.h ~-402,10

   void SetSecret(const CSecret& vchSecret, bool fCompressed)
     {
         assert(vchSecret.size() == 32);
-        SetData(128 + (fTestNet ? CBitcoinAddress::PUBKEY_ADDRESS_TEST : CBitcoinAddress::PUBKEY_ADDRESS), &vchSecret[0], vchSecret.size());
+       SetData(fTestNet ? PRIVKEY_ADDRESS_TEST : PRIVKEY_ADDRESS, &vchSecret[0], vchSecret.size());
         if (fCompressed)
             vchData.push_back(1);
     }

why change from pubkey to priv key ?

btw to check diff ( theres a few but no call home functions found i used :

git clone URLGITBLACKCOIN
cd blackcoin
git remote add -f b URLCLAMGIT
git diff master remotes/b/master
git remote rm b

Sigh... did you try reading the code before posting dumb questions?

line 282:   SCRIPT_ADDRESS = 5,
line 410:   PRIVKEY_ADDRESS = CBitcoinAddress::SCRIPT_ADDRESS + 128,
line 414:   PRIVKEY_ADDRESS_TEST = CBitcoinAddress::PUBKEY_ADDRESS_TEST + 128,

Nothing harmful here when you look at what this actually is.
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July 05, 2014, 06:07:59 AM
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Everyone calm down, it's tested and verified, get your CLAMS and ignore that other 100mil coin project.  Come to Poloniex today!!!

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July 05, 2014, 06:33:18 AM
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There is any faucet?

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July 05, 2014, 09:03:43 AM
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how much is the total coins
"moneysupply" : 14954000.02096215

I guess a significant portion of it will never be claimed.
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July 05, 2014, 10:59:04 AM
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Successfully claimed my CLAMs using both my BTC and LTC wallet.dat
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