Bitcoin Forum
November 20, 2018, 08:45:34 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 0.17.0 [Torrent].
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 [38] 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 ... 460 »
  Print  
Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1110882 times)
This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.
Zer0Sum
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1533
Merit: 1000


View Profile
July 27, 2014, 03:41:21 AM
 #741

x11 and other algos needed on kHashier.
I could help forge the clam shell much better if I were able to mine DRK or other x11 coins.
x11 and other algos needed on kHashier.
I could help forge the clam shell much better if I were able to mine DRK or other x11 coins.
Yup...

If you guys are serious about mining; I can bump it up on the list of TODO's.
Take a look at it tonight.

Been trying to delegate and divide up time as efficiently as possible... given the lack of interest in the Multi-Pool, adding an additional algorithm to dilute hash was not a priority (though still planned).
Speculative GPU miners I think are a lot more common then speculative scrypt miners. 
And nscrypt profitability has dropped a lot lately, it's just not worth mining compared to X11 or X13.

I mined for a bit with nscrypt when it was worthwhile, but am waiting to point my rigs at khashier until we have some new algos.  And I think you'll see there are others in the same boat as me.

Also, as someone else said, people really like stats.  More stats would probably help the multi-pool more then anything.

Yes, miners love stats more than anything except one thing.

You get an idea of general MultiPool demographics by checking the BlackCoin Pool:

Scrypt......818
X11..........542
SHA256.....157
Scrypt-N...12

http://blackcoinpool.com/dashboard

The world is awash in cheap Scrypt ASICs...
And the CLAM MultiPool will get more and more important as CLAM cap grows...
So there have to be promotions for new people to go on Clam Hunts.

As for the current Stake rate annualized.. here's my numbers for last 6.6 days:

320 CLAM in 3 wallets... 38 x 0.10 stakes = 1 + (3.80/320) ^ (365/6.6) = 91% annualized

Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1542703534
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1542703534

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1542703534
Reply with quote  #2

1542703534
Report to moderator
whatsabitworth
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 109
Merit: 10


View Profile
July 27, 2014, 03:59:16 AM
 #742

Sorry it has taken me so long to respond; it has been a busy week!



It seems there are quite a few people having sync issues.

The following build is a test build. 
It appears to functioning extremely well (including a few new features), but you should be aware it is currently being tested and is likely to have some flaws. 
If a user is using Windows, I would expect that the vast majority of issues might be solved by using this build:

CLAMClient Windows Test Build 1.4.2d

This worked for me. wallet synced and I'm back in Clams Smiley
thank you.

phzi
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 700
Merit: 500


View Profile
July 27, 2014, 04:00:55 AM
 #743

As for the current Stake rate annualized.. here's my numbers for last 6.6 days:

320 CLAM in 3 wallets... 38 x 0.10 stakes = 1 + (3.80/320) ^ (365/6.6) = 91% annualized
Uh, (3.80/320) ^ (365/6.6) = 0.  Not so sure about your math there.
dooglus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2548
Merit: 1125



View Profile
July 27, 2014, 04:28:13 AM
 #744

As for the current Stake rate annualized.. here's my numbers for last 6.6 days:

320 CLAM in 3 wallets... 38 x 0.10 stakes = 1 + (3.80/320) ^ (365/6.6) = 91% annualized
Uh, (3.80/320) ^ (365/6.6) = 0.  Not so sure about your math there.

The 1+ is meant to be inside the parentheses:

>>> (1 + 3.80/320) ** (365/6.6)
1.921017101683441

92%

Just-Dice                 ██             
          ██████████         
      ██████████████████     
  ██████████████████████████ 
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
    ██████████████████████   
        ██████████████       
            ██████           
   Play or Invest                 ██             
          ██████████         
      ██████████████████     
  ██████████████████████████ 
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
    ██████████████████████   
        ██████████████       
            ██████           
   1% House Edge
SuperClam
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 784
Merit: 1002


CLAM Developer


View Profile WWW
July 27, 2014, 05:10:01 AM
 #745

x11 and other algos needed on kHashier.
I could help forge the clam shell much better if I were able to mine DRK or other x11 coins.
x11 and other algos needed on kHashier.
I could help forge the clam shell much better if I were able to mine DRK or other x11 coins.
Yup...
If you guys are serious about mining; I can bump it up on the list of TODO's.
Take a look at it tonight.
Been trying to delegate and divide up time as efficiently as possible... given the lack of interest in the Multi-Pool, adding an additional algorithm to dilute hash was not a priority (though still planned).
Speculative GPU miners I think are a lot more common then speculative scrypt miners. 
And nscrypt profitability has dropped a lot lately, it's just not worth mining compared to X11 or X13.
I mined for a bit with nscrypt when it was worthwhile, but am waiting to point my rigs at khashier until we have some new algos.  And I think you'll see there are others in the same boat as me.
Also, as someone else said, people really like stats.  More stats would probably help the multi-pool more then anything.
Yes, miners love stats more than anything except one thing.
You get an idea of general MultiPool demographics by checking the BlackCoin Pool:
Scrypt......818
X11..........542
SHA256.....157
Scrypt-N...12
http://blackcoinpool.com/dashboard
The world is awash in cheap Scrypt ASICs...
And the CLAM MultiPool will get more and more important as CLAM cap grows...
So there have to be promotions for new people to go on Clam Hunts.
As for the current Stake rate annualized.. here's my numbers for last 6.6 days:
320 CLAM in 3 wallets... 38 x 0.10 stakes = 1 + (3.80/320) ^ (365/6.6) = 91% annualized

Work has already begun to add x11 to the CLAMS Multi-pool Smiley

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147
Proof-Of-Chain, 100% Distributed BEFORE Launch.
Everyone who owned BTC, LTC, or DOGE at launch got free CLAMS.
phzi
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 700
Merit: 500


View Profile
July 27, 2014, 07:04:18 AM
 #746

Work has already begun to add x11 to the CLAMS Multi-pool Smiley
WIN!  I want to mine me some X11 CLAMs!
kbroadfoot
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1302
Merit: 1000


Bass Player


View Profile
July 27, 2014, 03:16:46 PM
 #747

Just curious:

Is that 1.5 BTC buy support @ 0.0015 the 'Clam Shell'?

dooglus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2548
Merit: 1125



View Profile
July 27, 2014, 07:22:14 PM
 #748

Just curious:

Is that 1.5 BTC buy support @ 0.0015 the 'Clam Shell'?

No.

Just-Dice                 ██             
          ██████████         
      ██████████████████     
  ██████████████████████████ 
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
    ██████████████████████   
        ██████████████       
            ██████           
   Play or Invest                 ██             
          ██████████         
      ██████████████████     
  ██████████████████████████ 
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
    ██████████████████████   
        ██████████████       
            ██████           
   1% House Edge
romerun
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1078
Merit: 1001


Bitcoin is new, makes sense to hodl.


View Profile
July 28, 2014, 03:21:45 AM
 #749

can I just claim my Clam, is it too late ? how to
dooglus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2548
Merit: 1125



View Profile
July 28, 2014, 04:03:42 AM
 #750

can I just claim my Clam, is it too late ? how to

Any BTC, LTC, or DOGE private key which had some non-dust amount of coin on it some time in early May this year will have 4.6 or so CLAM on it too.

Simply export the private key from your BTC (or LTC, or DOGE) client and import it into the CLAM client.

Alternately, you can just copy your wallet.dat from the BTC data folder into the CLAM data folder, then run "clam-qt -rescan" to have it check all the private keys in that wallet.

A natural concern is that the CLAM wallet software will steal the BTC from the private keys you give it. I have given it private keys with hundreds of BTC on, and it hasn't stolen any of them.

If you're concerned, you can make sure the private keys you give it have already been emptied out of BTC - then you don't have to trust the CLAM software.

Just-Dice                 ██             
          ██████████         
      ██████████████████     
  ██████████████████████████ 
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
    ██████████████████████   
        ██████████████       
            ██████           
   Play or Invest                 ██             
          ██████████         
      ██████████████████     
  ██████████████████████████ 
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
    ██████████████████████   
        ██████████████       
            ██████           
   1% House Edge
sixteendigits
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 462
Merit: 250


View Profile
July 28, 2014, 04:04:59 AM
 #751

Damn it.  I just spent the last hour importing all my private keys from blockchain.info and moving all my BTC and any assets I hold tied to a BTC address (maidsafe, XCP, AGS) to new addresses cuz I'll be damned if the clams client is getting any private keys that are worth anything to me.  I'm all set to claim my clams and.......client won't sync.  0 nodes.  Yes, I am using the latest build.  Can someone gives me some nodes?
almightyruler
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1750
Merit: 1015


View Profile
July 28, 2014, 04:13:45 AM
 #752

Damn it.  I just spent the last hour importing all my private keys from blockchain.info and moving all my BTC and any assets I hold tied to a BTC address (maidsafe, XCP, AGS) to new addresses cuz I'll be damned if the clams client is getting any private keys that are worth anything to me.  I'm all set to claim my clams and.......client won't sync.  0 nodes.  Yes, I am using the latest build.  Can someone gives me some nodes?

Try these:

Code:
# coin: clam
addnode=24.67.30.88
addnode=198.245.60.38
addnode=65.102.47.162
addnode=24.184.168.36
addnode=93.103.131.59
addnode=85.17.81.164
addnode=142.4.201.123
addnode=84.194.247.232
addnode=220.253.2.201
addnode=188.116.147.85
addnode=85.17.81.169
addnode=109.223.234.123
addnode=173.68.204.192
addnode=198.245.60.38
addnode=107.192.136.116
addnode=24.238.75.8
addnode=184.9.244.44
addnode=79.206.224.49
addnode=207.61.182.125
addnode=216.46.33.120
addnode=99.233.92.9
addnode=85.191.52.188
addnode=67.201.165.63
addnode=82.26.243.220

Superclam, I see the source code has 4 different seed nodes, are they down or just "full"?

connect to address 54.186.94.88: Operation timed out
connect to address 54.186.202.251: Operation timed out
connect to address 54.186.249.57: Operation timed out
connect to address 54.187.138.13: Operation timed out
dooglus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2548
Merit: 1125



View Profile
July 28, 2014, 04:21:43 AM
 #753

Can someone gives me some nodes?

Here:

24.238.75.8:31174
65.102.47.162:31174
75.131.208.152:31174
76.173.48.220:31174
84.194.247.232:31174
85.191.52.188:31174
93.103.131.59:31174
107.192.136.116:31174
142.4.201.123:31174
173.68.204.192:31174
184.9.244.44:31174
188.116.147.85:31174
203.20.114.252:31174
216.46.33.120:31174
220.253.2.201:31174

Just-Dice                 ██             
          ██████████         
      ██████████████████     
  ██████████████████████████ 
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
    ██████████████████████   
        ██████████████       
            ██████           
   Play or Invest                 ██             
          ██████████         
      ██████████████████     
  ██████████████████████████ 
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
    ██████████████████████   
        ██████████████       
            ██████           
   1% House Edge
sixteendigits
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 462
Merit: 250


View Profile
July 28, 2014, 04:22:48 AM
 #754

Damn it.  I just spent the last hour importing all my private keys from blockchain.info and moving all my BTC and any assets I hold tied to a BTC address (maidsafe, XCP, AGS) to new addresses cuz I'll be damned if the clams client is getting any private keys that are worth anything to me.  I'm all set to claim my clams and.......client won't sync.  0 nodes.  Yes, I am using the latest build.  Can someone gives me some nodes?

Try these:

Code:
# coin: clam
addnode=24.67.30.88
addnode=198.245.60.38
addnode=65.102.47.162
addnode=24.184.168.36
addnode=93.103.131.59
addnode=85.17.81.164
addnode=142.4.201.123
addnode=84.194.247.232
addnode=220.253.2.201
addnode=188.116.147.85
addnode=85.17.81.169
addnode=109.223.234.123
addnode=173.68.204.192
addnode=198.245.60.38
addnode=107.192.136.116
addnode=24.238.75.8
addnode=184.9.244.44
addnode=79.206.224.49
addnode=207.61.182.125
addnode=216.46.33.120
addnode=99.233.92.9
addnode=85.191.52.188
addnode=67.201.165.63
addnode=82.26.243.220

Superclam, I see the source code has 4 different seed nodes, are they down or just "full"?

connect to address 54.186.94.88: Operation timed out
connect to address 54.186.202.251: Operation timed out
connect to address 54.186.249.57: Operation timed out
connect to address 54.187.138.13: Operation timed out


Thanks, that worked.  Kinda sucks after all that work I only ended up with 4.6 CLAM but oh well.  I guess there are far more BTC addresses than DOGE and LTC combined so odds any particular BTC address contains CLAM is probably much smaller than with DOGE or LTC.
dooglus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2548
Merit: 1125



View Profile
July 28, 2014, 04:26:02 AM
 #755

Kinda sucks after all that work I only ended up with 4.6 CLAM but oh well.  I guess there are far more BTC addresses than DOGE and LTC combined so odds any particular BTC address contains CLAM is probably much smaller than with DOGE or LTC.

That's not how it works.

*Every* BTC address that had a non-dust balance on the date in question got 4.6 CLAM awarded to it.

Just-Dice                 ██             
          ██████████         
      ██████████████████     
  ██████████████████████████ 
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
    ██████████████████████   
        ██████████████       
            ██████           
   Play or Invest                 ██             
          ██████████         
      ██████████████████     
  ██████████████████████████ 
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
    ██████████████████████   
        ██████████████       
            ██████           
   1% House Edge
sixteendigits
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 462
Merit: 250


View Profile
July 28, 2014, 04:38:28 AM
 #756

Kinda sucks after all that work I only ended up with 4.6 CLAM but oh well.  I guess there are far more BTC addresses than DOGE and LTC combined so odds any particular BTC address contains CLAM is probably much smaller than with DOGE or LTC.

That's not how it works.

*Every* BTC address that had a non-dust balance on the date in question got 4.6 CLAM awarded to it.

Yeah, I just started seeing more CLAM pop up.  I guess I assumed I'd see them all at once.  I'm up to 27.6 CLAM right now.
dooglus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2548
Merit: 1125



View Profile
July 28, 2014, 05:06:04 AM
 #757

Kinda sucks after all that work I only ended up with 4.6 CLAM but oh well.  I guess there are far more BTC addresses than DOGE and LTC combined so odds any particular BTC address contains CLAM is probably much smaller than with DOGE or LTC.

That's not how it works.

*Every* BTC address that had a non-dust balance on the date in question got 4.6 CLAM awarded to it.

Yeah, I just started seeing more CLAM pop up.  I guess I assumed I'd see them all at once.  I'm up to 27.6 CLAM right now.

They should all be in your wallet as soon as it finishes rescanning the blockchain. That takes a few minutes typically.

Oh, but maybe you didn't download the blockchain yet - if you're downloading it, you'll see them appear as it downloads. It looks like the 4.6 CLAM awards happened from block 558 to block 9262.

Just-Dice                 ██             
          ██████████         
      ██████████████████     
  ██████████████████████████ 
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
    ██████████████████████   
        ██████████████       
            ██████           
   Play or Invest                 ██             
          ██████████         
      ██████████████████     
  ██████████████████████████ 
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
    ██████████████████████   
        ██████████████       
            ██████           
   1% House Edge
sixteendigits
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 462
Merit: 250


View Profile
July 28, 2014, 05:09:32 AM
 #758

Kinda sucks after all that work I only ended up with 4.6 CLAM but oh well.  I guess there are far more BTC addresses than DOGE and LTC combined so odds any particular BTC address contains CLAM is probably much smaller than with DOGE or LTC.

That's not how it works.

*Every* BTC address that had a non-dust balance on the date in question got 4.6 CLAM awarded to it.

Yeah, I just started seeing more CLAM pop up.  I guess I assumed I'd see them all at once.  I'm up to 27.6 CLAM right now.

They should all be in your wallet as soon as it finishes rescanning the blockchain. That takes a few minutes typically.

Oh, but maybe you didn't download the blockchain yet - if you're downloading it, you'll see them appear as it downloads. It looks like the 4.6 CLAM awards happened from block 558 to block 9262.

Yeah, as soon as I saw the nodes worked, I closed the client and replaced the wallet.dat, they slowly started popping up as I downloaded the blockchain.  And already got 0.1 CLAM more for staking!
dooglus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2548
Merit: 1125



View Profile
July 28, 2014, 05:24:48 AM
 #759

Yeah, as soon as I saw the nodes worked, I closed the client and replaced the wallet.dat, they slowly started popping up as I downloaded the blockchain.  And already got 0.1 CLAM more for staking!

The network difficulty is generally at or around the minimum.

That means that each of your 4.6 CLAM outputs has a 2^20 / (4.6 * age_in_days) chance of staking each second.

The distribution was around 72 days ago, and so:

>>> 2**20 / (72 * 4.6)
3166

each 4.6 CLAM output will typically take about an hour on average to stake.

When it stakes, its age is destroyed, so you won't expect to see it stake again for a while.

And the 0.1 you saw is pseudo-random, and can be as much as 1000 CLAMs if you're really lucky.

99% of the time it's 0.1 though.

Just-Dice                 ██             
          ██████████         
      ██████████████████     
  ██████████████████████████ 
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
    ██████████████████████   
        ██████████████       
            ██████           
   Play or Invest                 ██             
          ██████████         
      ██████████████████     
  ██████████████████████████ 
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
    ██████████████████████   
        ██████████████       
            ██████           
   1% House Edge
dooglus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2548
Merit: 1125



View Profile
July 28, 2014, 06:01:45 AM
 #760

I notice that some addresses received multiple 4.6 CLAM deposits in the initial distribution.

See http://khashier.com:2750/address/xV4sJ8TkjZbkfAP4knLfRVgGVeNQTQQxPJ for example.

Was that a mistake, or what's going on with that?

Just-Dice                 ██             
          ██████████         
      ██████████████████     
  ██████████████████████████ 
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
    ██████████████████████   
        ██████████████       
            ██████           
   Play or Invest                 ██             
          ██████████         
      ██████████████████     
  ██████████████████████████ 
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████
    ██████████████████████   
        ██████████████       
            ██████           
   1% House Edge
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 [38] 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 ... 460 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!