[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"

[KriszDev]

Will the --salwagewallet remove my DOGEs from my wallet?

It wouldn't, no, it would remove all the info aka settings/tx data etc but your DOGE's private keys would remain.

The proper way to import a wallet now is directly thought the UI in 1.4.2.2. Doing it this way ensure's all the invalid DOGE data in the wallet.dat is removed.

--salvagewallet is more destructive and should only be used in the normal cases where you would want to use salvagewallet.  

So I"will not lose any DOGE? I wanna be sure before i do it.

[almightyruler]

Will the --salwagewallet remove my DOGEs from my wallet?

It wouldn't, no, it would remove all the info aka settings/tx data etc but your DOGE's private keys would remain.

The proper way to import a wallet now is directly thought the UI in 1.4.2.2. Doing it this way ensure's all the invalid DOGE data in the wallet.dat is removed.

--salvagewallet is more destructive and should only be used in the normal cases where you would want to use salvagewallet.  

So I"will not lose any DOGE? I wanna be sure before i do it.

It will change the structure of your wallet.dat, so make sure you use a copy, rather than your 'original'

As far as changing your actual DOGE balance, no, it will not affect that, because CLAMS is a separate network.

[xploited]

Will the --salwagewallet remove my DOGEs from my wallet?

It wouldn't, no, it would remove all the info aka settings/tx data etc but your DOGE's private keys would remain.

The proper way to import a wallet now is directly thought the UI in 1.4.2.2. Doing it this way ensure's all the invalid DOGE data in the wallet.dat is removed.

--salvagewallet is more destructive and should only be used in the normal cases where you would want to use salvagewallet.  

So I"will not lose any DOGE? I wanna be sure before i do it.

You 100% will not lose any of your DOGE.  

I do suggest making a backup of your original DOGE. There have been no reports of wallet.dat files being corrupted and there have been a lot of imports at this point (at least 9300+ addresses). The way the import is done now lowers that risk significantly also as the wallet you import is left untouched.. but I always suggest backing up.

[xploited]

Will the --salwagewallet remove my DOGEs from my wallet?

It wouldn't, no, it would remove all the info aka settings/tx data etc but your DOGE's private keys would remain.

The proper way to import a wallet now is directly thought the UI in 1.4.2.2. Doing it this way ensure's all the invalid DOGE data in the wallet.dat is removed.

--salvagewallet is more destructive and should only be used in the normal cases where you would want to use salvagewallet.  

So I"will not lose any DOGE? I wanna be sure before i do it.

It will change the structure of your wallet.dat, so make sure you use a copy, rather than your 'original'

As far as changing your actual DOGE balance, no, it will not affect that, because CLAMS is a separate network.

The new importwallet UI will not actually change the structure of the original wallet.dat. Its opened temporarily in memory, the keys are copied into the clams wallet and then its closed. The previous method was destructive, this however is not.

[adjiadjo]

can anyone help me how to claim clam if i'm using multibit wallet?
thx in advance

[KriszDev]

So I'm just hit "Import wallet" in the GUI client and select the DOGE wallet?

[xploited]

So I'm just hit "Import wallet" in the GUI client and select the DOGE wallet?

Thats correct. If your wallet was password protected it will ask you for the password once you select the DOGE wallet.dat file.

You client will freeze for a time (length depends on the amount of keys it is scanning) so just wait for the UI to become responsive again.

[xploited]

can anyone help me how to claim clam if i'm using multibit wallet?
thx in advance

For sure.

Goto  Tools->Export Private Keys

put in your wallet password.

Select "Do not password protect export file"

and click on  "Export to ..." to select where to put the file.

You will see lines in the file like

5K13f6J8KySKqHhvME9rweRdV21hSNkcU5ZMd4rTWXwWusPFDrx 2014-01-24T00:04:35Z

For each of those lines go to the clam client ->Help->debug->console  and use the command

importprivkey 5K13f6J8KySKqHhvME9rweRdV21hSNkcU5ZMd4rTWXwWusPFDrx

You will need to do that with each key in the file. Theres not any scripts in the wild I'm aware of to automate it.

[adjiadjo]

can anyone help me how to claim clam if i'm using multibit wallet?
thx in advance

For sure.

Goto  Tools->Export Private Keys

put in your wallet password.

Select "Do not password protect export file"

and click on  "Export to ..." to select where to put the file.

You will see lines in the file like

5K13f6J8KySKqHhvME9rweRdV21hSNkcU5ZMd4rTWXwWusPFDrx 2014-01-24T00:04:35Z

For each of those lines go to the clam client ->Help->debug->console  and use the command

importprivkey 5K13f6J8KySKqHhvME9rweRdV21hSNkcU5ZMd4rTWXwWusPFDrx

You will need to do that with each key in the file. Theres not any scripts in the wild I'm aware of to automate it.

yeah its working
thank you for helping me 

[KriszDev]

How the CLAM client check my balance on DOGE chain?

[MyPotPlantDied]

I have to say that this is one of the coolest ideas for an altcoin I have seen. No fussing around with miners, no scam IPOs, just send out the coins and let people collect them! Brilliant!

[xploited]

How the CLAM client check my balance on DOGE chain?

It doesn't check your 'current' balance on the DOGE chain.

(somewhat simplified and lacking technical details)
Your DOGE's are held by addresses that you own. Back in may a snapshot of the DOGE/BTC and LTC chain was taken. The snapshot included all addresses on these chains that had an above 0 balance (above dust more specifically). We then sent 4.6~ CLAMS to each address (converted into a CLAM address) on the CLAM chain.

When you import your DOGE wallet, what your doing is converting your DOGE address (stats with 'D') into a clam address ('x'). If when the snapshot was taken your original DOGE address had a positive balance you'll have a coresponding CLAM address with 4.6~ clams.

I hope that helps

[xploited]

I have to say that this is one of the coolest ideas for an altcoin I have seen. No fussing around with miners, no scam IPOs, just send out the coins and let people collect them! Brilliant!

Thanks for the kind words!

Our team and the community volunteers (like dooglus and others) have and continue to put a ton of work into CLAMs to improve things. I can't speak for everyone but for me people enjoying our idea is all the validation I need for the time spent to have paid off.

So thank you  

 

[Thirdspace]

It doesn't check your 'current' balance on the DOGE chain.

(somewhat simplified and lacking technical details)
Your DOGE's are held by addresses that you own. Back in may a snapshot of the DOGE/BTC and LTC chain was taken. The snapshot included all addresses on these chains that had an above 0 balance (above dust more specifically). We then sent 4.6~ CLAMS to each address (converted into a CLAM address) on the CLAM chain.

When you import your DOGE wallet, what your doing is converting your DOGE address (stats with 'D') into a clam address ('x'). If when the snapshot was taken your original DOGE address had a positive balance you'll have a coresponding CLAM address with 4.6~ clams.

I hope that helps

can I do importprivkey even before the client fully sync-ed? by that I mean would I get the correct clam address?
or maybe can someone show me an example of btc address and its corresponding clam address?
I want to check if doing search on khashier actually correctly mapped the btc addr to its clam addr 

[xploited]

It doesn't check your 'current' balance on the DOGE chain.

(somewhat simplified and lacking technical details)
Your DOGE's are held by addresses that you own. Back in may a snapshot of the DOGE/BTC and LTC chain was taken. The snapshot included all addresses on these chains that had an above 0 balance (above dust more specifically). We then sent 4.6~ CLAMS to each address (converted into a CLAM address) on the CLAM chain.

When you import your DOGE wallet, what your doing is converting your DOGE address (stats with 'D') into a clam address ('x'). If when the snapshot was taken your original DOGE address had a positive balance you'll have a coresponding CLAM address with 4.6~ clams.

I hope that helps

can I do importprivkey even before the client fully sync-ed? by that I mean would I get the correct clam address?
or maybe can someone show me an example of btc address and its corresponding clam address?
I want to check if doing search on khashier actually correctly mapped the btc addr to its clam addr  

It needs to be synced to 10k at least, or you won't have all the sends.

Dooglus posted a method in python a while back for converting an address (sorry, don't have the pg number)

I use the site http://gobittest.appspot.com/Address   for quick one offs.


Put the btc address in step 9, click send.

In step 4, remove the leading 00 and replace it with  89,  click send on step 4.  You should now have the corresponding Clam address

Here is an example or a random unfunded address.

16UwLL9Risc3QfPqBUvKofHmBQ7wMtjvM       into step 9

Step 4 is  00010966776006953D5567439E5E39F86A0D273BEE and becomes 89010966776006953D5567439E5E39F86A0D273BEE   hit send on step 4.  

Step 9 gives you the clam address
x8Q7qDAchSMe5nmGBf7akyx4zHhMMLp9gD


This works with BTC/DOGE and LTC addresses

[Thirdspace]

It needs to be synced to 10k at least, or you won't have all the sends.

Dooglus posted a method in python a while back for converting an address (sorry, don't have the pg number)

I use the site http://gobittest.appspot.com/Address   for quick one offs.


Put the btc address in step 9, click send.

In step 4, remove the leading 00 and replace it with  89,  click send on step 4.  You should now have the corresponding Clam address

Here is an example or a random unfunded address.

16UwLL9Risc3QfPqBUvKofHmBQ7wMtjvM       into step 9

Step 4 is  00010966776006953D5567439E5E39F86A0D273BEE and becomes 89010966776006953D5567439E5E39F86A0D273BEE   hit send on step 4.  

Step 9 gives you the clam address
x8Q7qDAchSMe5nmGBf7akyx4zHhMMLp9gD


This works with BTC/DOGE and LTC addresses

ok cool... but you're btc addr example wasn't entitled to any CLAMs distribution, so no hit on khashier
so I tried with my own address and followed your instruction on gobittest,
the result exactly the same as if I did it thru khashier search... THANKS
now I know two ways to find CLAM address (and the third is the script, which I have no way to test it)

[xploited]

It needs to be synced to 10k at least, or you won't have all the sends.

Dooglus posted a method in python a while back for converting an address (sorry, don't have the pg number)

I use the site http://gobittest.appspot.com/Address   for quick one offs.


Put the btc address in step 9, click send.

In step 4, remove the leading 00 and replace it with  89,  click send on step 4.  You should now have the corresponding Clam address

Here is an example or a random unfunded address.

16UwLL9Risc3QfPqBUvKofHmBQ7wMtjvM       into step 9

Step 4 is  00010966776006953D5567439E5E39F86A0D273BEE and becomes 89010966776006953D5567439E5E39F86A0D273BEE   hit send on step 4.  

Step 9 gives you the clam address
x8Q7qDAchSMe5nmGBf7akyx4zHhMMLp9gD


This works with BTC/DOGE and LTC addresses

ok cool... but you're btc addr example wasn't entitled to any CLAMs distribution, so no hit on khashier
so I tried with my own address and followed your instruction on gobittest,
the result exactly the same as if I did it thru khashier search... THANKS
now I know two ways to find CLAM address (and the third is the script, which I have no way to test it)

Thats correct, my btc example wouldn't have shown up on khashier, it was just a randomly generated address to show how to do it.

I'm glad I could be of help  

Its also possible to go the other way.  Put your clam address in step 9 and find the btc/doge/ltc address

in step 4 you would replace  89  with   1e (for doge) 30 (for litecoin) or 00 (for bitcoin)

[SuperClam]

It needs to be synced to 10k at least, or you won't have all the sends.
Dooglus posted a method in python a while back for converting an address (sorry, don't have the pg number)
I use the site http://gobittest.appspot.com/Address   for quick one offs.
Put the btc address in step 9, click send.
In step 4, remove the leading 00 and replace it with  89,  click send on step 4.  You should now have the corresponding Clam address
Here is an example or a random unfunded address.
16UwLL9Risc3QfPqBUvKofHmBQ7wMtjvM       into step 9
Step 4 is  00010966776006953D5567439E5E39F86A0D273BEE and becomes 89010966776006953D5567439E5E39F86A0D273BEE   hit send on step 4.  
Step 9 gives you the clam address
x8Q7qDAchSMe5nmGBf7akyx4zHhMMLp9gD
This works with BTC/DOGE and LTC addresses

ok cool... but you're btc addr example wasn't entitled to any CLAMs distribution, so no hit on khashier
so I tried with my own address and followed your instruction on gobittest,
the result exactly the same as if I did it thru khashier search... THANKS
now I know two ways to find CLAM address (and the third is the script, which I have no way to test it)

Thats correct, my btc example wouldn't have shown up on khashier, it was just a randomly generated address to show how to do it.
I'm glad I could be of help  
Its also possible to go the other way.  Put your clam address in step 9 and find the btc/doge/ltc address
in step 4 you would replace  89  with   1e (for doge) 30 (for litecoin) or 00 (for bitcoin)

This is all correct.

However, please be careful.  You may have CLAMS in your wallet that are associated with an address you aren't aware of; i.e. you didn't receive coins to it.  These are called "change" addresses.  Almsot every single time you send out coins one of these "change" addresses is created and holds coins.

Just because you search an address you "think" holds your coins, does NOT mean that it still does hold your coins.


In short, the only way (without an intimate understand of the protocol) to be sure you have claimed all of your CLAMS is to import the entire wallet.  Otherwise, there is a very good chance you have missed "change" addresses.

[dooglus]

For each of those lines go to the clam client ->Help->debug->console  and use the command

importprivkey 5K13f6J8KySKqHhvME9rweRdV21hSNkcU5ZMd4rTWXwWusPFDrx

Add the word 'false' (without quotes) to the end of each of these commands except the last one and it will go much faster. 'false' prevents it rescanning the blockchain for each import. You only need to rescan after adding all your private keys.

can I do importprivkey even before the client fully sync-ed? by that I mean would I get the correct clam address?

Yes. But you don't need to import at all if all you want to do is check the balance. I provided a script before which converts between CLAM/BTC/LTC/DOGE addresses, without the need for a blockchain or any private keys.

It needs to be synced to 10k at least, or you won't have all the sends.

You can import your private key before syncing to block 10k. Then, as you continue to sync, you will see your coins appear.

If you're only importing to check the balance then yeah, you'll need to sync to 10k to be sure the initial sends are all visible.

[romerun]

after importing wallets, should I create a new wallet and send all the clams to the new one (to avoid leaking private keys of the original wallets) ?

Will it reduce my minting ability if I do that ?

What can I do with all the clams now, any dice sites, merchants, pizza, clambase, xclamster ?