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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1153905 times)
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July 22, 2014, 01:26:47 AM
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As another member mentioned, Poloniex already did a give away of exchange CLAMS.... might you be speaking of that?
Indeed.  I stand corrected, as they were already distributed.
Nice to see that exchanges probably didn't end up with the huge collections of CLAMs someone might initially suspect.

No way to be certain of coarse, without a list of addresses.  That said, Busoni over at Poloniex did mention the date/time they had "refreshed" the BTC exchange wallet before ever being given an exact date as to when the dumps occurred.  And it WAS literally the day before the distribution, suggesting honesty.

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July 22, 2014, 01:44:28 AM
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Are you seeing 5-10% cpu and 100+ mb memory usage while it is starting up ?

Try this :

- uninstall any 2005-2008 Microsoft Visual C++ and related apps
- run a windows error check
- backup the wallet and the .bak, delete the roaming folder and qt
- delete CLAM's registry folder located at HKEY_CURRENT_USER/SOFTWARE/Clam and reboot
- if the client continues to hang after 1-3 attempts, delete the peers.dat file and try again

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Tbh.. I don't know what got the client running again. lol


Tried all steps and it stills hangs. I get this error while opening it the first time and then the same hang error when I open it again.

https://i.imgur.com/llIW2lO.png
https://i.imgur.com/FeLF4OV.png

Just keep trying. It should eventually fix itself like mine did.

Delete the peers.dat, start it up and give it a few minutes each time.

Who knows .. a Windows repair might help.

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July 22, 2014, 01:52:02 AM
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Nice to see you here SuperClam.
I thought you took my money and run.
A... wait, that was you give me money and run away...
 Tongue Tongue Tongue
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July 22, 2014, 02:16:19 AM
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I wonder if staking has slowed down because a large number of the coins are sitting in sell orders at Poloniex, and the exchange has staking disabled? (I haven't looked too closely at the order book so I'm just guessing.)
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July 22, 2014, 02:18:40 AM
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I wonder if staking has slowed down because a large number of the coins are sitting in sell orders at Poloniex, and the exchange has staking disabled? (I haven't looked too closely at the order book so I'm just guessing.)

my wallet just got a stake but very slow confirmation
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July 22, 2014, 02:22:31 AM
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I wonder if staking has slowed down because a large number of the coins are sitting in sell orders at Poloniex, and the exchange has staking disabled? (I haven't looked too closely at the order book so I'm just guessing.)

my wallet just got a stake but very slow confirmation

Yes, because your stake still has to be confirmed by other stakes.

The last 100 blocks have taken approximately 5 1/2 hours to mint, which is an average rate of about one block every 3 mins and 20 seconds.

edit: I can see that potentially causing a bad situation: if no new wallets come online (or no new funds are injected eg via purchase) could this turn into a vicious cycle, where confirms for stakes are taking longer and longer, therefore the time between stakes is increasing, therefore confirms for stakes are taking longer and longer, therefore .......
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July 22, 2014, 02:43:21 AM
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Nice to see you here SuperClam.
I thought you took my money and run.
A... wait, that was you give me money and run away...
 Tongue Tongue Tongue

Grin;D;D



Confirmations are slowing to a crawwwl....
Agreed.
This is totally painful. We haven't heard from SuperClam in a couple of days now, I'm starting to get concerned/worried/doubtful.
Nothing at all to be worried about Grin
Just busy trying to get things done!
Give a bit here, and I will have responses to all of the posts since the last response!
Thanks for the replies! Any comment on current Network Rate and Dooglas' suggestion?

Sure Smiley

It isn't a suggestion.  dooglus has already been contributing over on git for some time; expect a fix for block time and difficulty with the next forking update we do Smiley

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July 22, 2014, 02:50:01 AM
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I wonder if staking has slowed down because a large number of the coins are sitting in sell orders at Poloniex, and the exchange has staking disabled? (I haven't looked too closely at the order book so I'm just guessing.)
my wallet just got a stake but very slow confirmation
Yes, because your stake still has to be confirmed by other stakes.
The last 100 blocks have taken approximately 5 1/2 hours to mint, which is an average rate of about one block every 3 mins and 20 seconds.
edit: I can see that potentially causing a bad situation: if no new wallets come online (or no new funds are injected eg via purchase) could this turn into a vicious cycle, where confirms for stakes are taking longer and longer, therefore the time between stakes is increasing, therefore confirms for stakes are taking longer and longer, therefore .......

Have some trust in the CLAM   Wink

All is in hand, though it can be painful at the beginning like this.
In fairness, the % return right now, even for a 0.1 CLAM block, is WELL worth the wait.

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July 22, 2014, 03:31:37 AM
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Have some trust in the CLAM   Wink

All is in hand, though it can be painful at the beginning like this.
In fairness, the % return right now, even for a 0.1 CLAM block, is WELL worth the wait.
Yes, but after 9 0.1 CLAM blocks I want that 999 CLAM block  Grin
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July 22, 2014, 04:54:40 AM
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That error is very odd, because the format of that error should be:
Code:
CDB() : can't open database file <filename>, error <number>

It seems to trying to open an empty filename, which is just weird.

Have you looked if there is anything surrounding this error in the logfile?

Have you tried launching with a different (clean and empty) -datadir=<folder> ?

Only got one -datadir  C:/
This is all I could find in Event viewer about the error so no help.

Code:
Faulting application name: clam-qt.exe, version: 1.4.2.0, time stamp: 0x4d44aa00
Faulting module name: unknown, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00000000
Faulting process id: 0xc94
Faulting application start time: 0x01cfa4f4d55e2e52
Faulting application path: C:\Users\Deny\Desktop\CLAMClient_1.4.2b_Windows\clam-qt.exe
Faulting module path: unknown
Report Id: 7dd852ff-10e8-11e4-9ade-afc43273f5e5

I'll wait for the update and hopefully it gets fixed.
Thanks anyways  Smiley
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July 22, 2014, 09:32:12 AM
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That error is very odd, because the format of that error should be:
Code:
CDB() : can't open database file <filename>, error <number>
It seems to trying to open an empty filename, which is just weird.
Have you looked if there is anything surrounding this error in the logfile?
Have you tried launching with a different (clean and empty) -datadir=<folder> ?
Only got one -datadir  C:/
This is all I could find in Event viewer about the error so no help.
Code:
Faulting application name: clam-qt.exe, version: 1.4.2.0, time stamp: 0x4d44aa00
Faulting module name: unknown, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00000000
Faulting process id: 0xc94
Faulting application start time: 0x01cfa4f4d55e2e52
Faulting application path: C:\Users\Deny\Desktop\CLAMClient_1.4.2b_Windows\clam-qt.exe
Faulting module path: unknown
Report Id: 7dd852ff-10e8-11e4-9ade-afc43273f5e5
I'll wait for the update and hopefully it gets fixed.
Thanks anyways  Smiley

Indeed, the issue was fixed via updated outdated deps.
Expect the upcoming hotfix release to solve this and a plethora of other legacy problems Smiley

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July 22, 2014, 06:46:09 PM
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Have some trust in the CLAM   Wink

All is in hand, though it can be painful at the beginning like this.
In fairness, the % return right now, even for a 0.1 CLAM block, is WELL worth the wait.

I actually want this coin to stay obscure for a while and accumulate...
With 12,000 Twitter followers the Devs are likely busy pros with other coins...
This baby has several interesting innovations that are long run type features...

Like people will keep finding Clams for months/years...
The pool structure rewards long-term miners, not pool hoppers...
The Clam Shell market support has produced a relatively stable market for a new Alt.

Have some trust in the CLAM   Wink
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July 22, 2014, 08:48:00 PM
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Have some trust in the CLAM   Wink

All is in hand, though it can be painful at the beginning like this.
In fairness, the % return right now, even for a 0.1 CLAM block, is WELL worth the wait.

I actually want this coin to stay obscure for a while and accumulate...
With 12,000 Twitter followers the Devs are likely busy pros with other coins...
This baby has several interesting innovations that are long run type features...

Like people will keep finding Clams for months/years...
The pool structure rewards long-term miners, not pool hoppers...
The Clam Shell market support has produced a relatively stable market for a new Alt.

Have some trust in the CLAM   Wink


IN CLAM WE TRUST...
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July 22, 2014, 09:07:46 PM
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CLAMs represent one of the extremely rare times that I'm happy people are selling for BTC without care.

Thanks for the cheap CLAMs!  Quite happy to be stocking up and improving my chances at hitting those lotto blocks!

I've broken my pile up into 32 equal stacks now - quite interested to see how staking goes over the next few days.



It is going to be big for CLAMs when Poloniex releases their CLAMs to account holders, I think.  We'll see dumpers that only care about fractions of BTC, sure, but a coin so widely distributed and in the hands of so many crypto-invested individuals is bound to create some significant interest and curiosity.  Hopefully we will have an improved wallet out by then (with a few hard-fork changes that will really help the CLAM network).

how did u split it up?

i tried to send to 3 diff addresses in my wallet , and it just removed stake age and now it seems to be building back up ?!?

have u got different wallets open or diff addresses same wallet?

I'm pretty sure you have to create and run Virtual Machines... or is there a simpler way?

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July 22, 2014, 09:28:57 PM
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Just split them to different addresses in a single wallet and they will stake. Larger piles of coins have a higher weight so I guess there's a balance between # of stacks and the size of each.
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July 22, 2014, 10:16:48 PM
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What would happen if you ran simultaneous versions of exactly the same wallet?
I am NOT doing this but just curious if this would be some sort of cheat....

My guess is you would 'fork' yourself...


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July 22, 2014, 10:51:28 PM
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What would happen if you ran simultaneous versions of exactly the same wallet?
I am NOT doing this but just curious if this would be some sort of cheat....

My guess is you would 'fork' yourself...



You may as well call one of the wallets an "Orphanage" Wink

Won't work.
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July 22, 2014, 11:09:11 PM
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What would happen if you ran simultaneous versions of exactly the same wallet?
I am NOT doing this but just curious if this would be some sort of cheat....
My guess is you would 'fork' yourself...
You may as well call one of the wallets an "Orphanage" Wink
Won't work.

The point at which you have enough coin piles where-by splitting them to separate wallets (not the same wallet, as mentioned above) and start what is essentially a Proof-Of-Work race...... well, as far as I aware, that shouldn't be a concern.

The piles would be so small, tx fees would mount so quickly, and coin days would accrue so slowly - it would result in the most inefficient waste of CLAMS possible, imho.

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July 23, 2014, 02:33:56 AM
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CLAMs represent one of the extremely rare times that I'm happy people are selling for BTC without care.

Thanks for the cheap CLAMs!  Quite happy to be stocking up and improving my chances at hitting those lotto blocks!

I've broken my pile up into 32 equal stacks now - quite interested to see how staking goes over the next few days.



It is going to be big for CLAMs when Poloniex releases their CLAMs to account holders, I think.  We'll see dumpers that only care about fractions of BTC, sure, but a coin so widely distributed and in the hands of so many crypto-invested individuals is bound to create some significant interest and curiosity.  Hopefully we will have an improved wallet out by then (with a few hard-fork changes that will really help the CLAM network).

how did u split it up?

i tried to send to 3 diff addresses in my wallet , and it just removed stake age and now it seems to be building back up ?!?

have u got different wallets open or diff addresses same wallet?

I'm pretty sure you have to create and run Virtual Machines... or is there a simpler way?


send them to yourself. Make more addresses with your wallet if you  have to
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July 23, 2014, 02:41:23 AM
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CLAMs represent one of the extremely rare times that I'm happy people are selling for BTC without care.

Thanks for the cheap CLAMs!  Quite happy to be stocking up and improving my chances at hitting those lotto blocks!

I've broken my pile up into 32 equal stacks now - quite interested to see how staking goes over the next few days.



It is going to be big for CLAMs when Poloniex releases their CLAMs to account holders, I think.  We'll see dumpers that only care about fractions of BTC, sure, but a coin so widely distributed and in the hands of so many crypto-invested individuals is bound to create some significant interest and curiosity.  Hopefully we will have an improved wallet out by then (with a few hard-fork changes that will really help the CLAM network).

how did u split it up?

i tried to send to 3 diff addresses in my wallet , and it just removed stake age and now it seems to be building back up ?!?

have u got different wallets open or diff addresses same wallet?

I'm pretty sure you have to create and run Virtual Machines... or is there a simpler way?


send them to yourself. Make more addresses with your wallet if you  have to
Indeed.  Nothing fancy like multiple wallets required. 

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