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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1151291 times)
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April 14, 2015, 04:54:43 PM
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I need a new CLAM address for the Just-Dice bankroll.

The previous one I was using was xJDCLAMZ9rQ11tMf7JUw1Zzvjm5ShkryrU and I would like the new one to start with the same 8 characters, all uppercase except of course for the 'x':
xJDCLAMZ

I'm offering a 100 CLAM bounty for the first person to generate such an address for me. You can generate addresses using vanitygen (https://github.com/samr7/vanitygen.git). You need to patch it to work with CLAM: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147.msg8875631#msg8875631

And so that the private key stays private, you need to run vanitygen with these flags (the -P in particular is the one that makes is safe):

Code:
-X 137 -P 04A56E39954B155CE4B79E72CD72854F114C3D5E1C7A3B1035D8EA5C836529004CDDCF7DA674B579BBBA49D49021C420235FD3A139C052D261DB4F85AE3B51EB9B xJDCLAMZ

The prize goes to the first person to post a working private key in the Just-Dice chat tab.

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April 14, 2015, 05:03:02 PM
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April 14, 2015, 05:05:03 PM
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I want to clam for the proofs they possessed... Wink

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April 14, 2015, 06:25:18 PM
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The prize goes to the first person to post a working private key in the Just-Dice chat tab.

That was quick:

11:20:20 (812744) <kolloh> dooglus 5TZZsQBQp[...]
11:20:41 (812744) <kolloh> woot got lucky
11:20:47 (812744) <kolloh> only 15% in lol
11:20:47 (1) <@dooglus> kolloh, you won?
11:20:51 (812744) <kolloh> i think so yes
11:21:52 (1) <@dooglus> nice, that's [xJDCLAMZ]
11:22:09 (666) <@SATAN> easiest $200 you ever m ade
11:22:13 (812744) <kolloh> yeah got bad lucky
11:22:15 (812744) <kolloh> mad*
11:23:00 INFO: sent 100 CLAM to (812744) kolloh
11:23:03 (812744) <kolloh> thanks!

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April 14, 2015, 06:36:11 PM
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Awesome. Thanks Dooglus! Got lucky on the generate there Cheesy
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April 14, 2015, 07:09:27 PM
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Awesome. Thanks Dooglus! Got lucky on the generate there Cheesy

I've started moving the JD CLAMs over already to the address you found for me:

    http://khashier.com/address/xJDCLAMZsZg1YqGytiP9CRzYYdsrJXX9Kh

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April 14, 2015, 07:21:43 PM
 #2847

Awesome. Thanks Dooglus! Got lucky on the generate there Cheesy

I've started moving the JD CLAMs over already to the address you found for me:

    http://khashier.com/address/xJDCLAMZsZg1YqGytiP9CRzYYdsrJXX9Kh

Well, you probably did..


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April 14, 2015, 11:44:08 PM
 #2848

Awesome. Thanks Dooglus! Got lucky on the generate there Cheesy

I've started moving the JD CLAMs over already to the address you found for me:

    http://khashier.com/address/xJDCLAMZsZg1YqGytiP9CRzYYdsrJXX9Kh

I'm clearly misunderstanding something here.  Why would you move money into an address whose privkey was published publically?
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April 14, 2015, 11:49:04 PM
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I'm clearly misunderstanding something here.  Why would you move money into an address whose privkey was published publically?

When I asked for people to search for a privkey, I gave them the public half of a keypair I generated. They use that public key in the -P argument to vanitygen. They give the privkey that vanitygen finds, and I combine that with the privkey from the pair I generated to arrive at the real privkey for the address.

Without knowing my privkey the publicly published privkey is useless.

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April 15, 2015, 01:36:19 AM
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Bitcoin talk allows avatars again.

Is there a image of that works for Bitcointalk?

Want me to resize/crop it for you?

If you could I would probably love you forever Tongue

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(also include your CLAM address in the post too!)

All CLAM to Silver shipments over the weekend were sent out today!

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April 15, 2015, 01:52:07 AM
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I'm clearly misunderstanding something here.  Why would you move money into an address whose privkey was published publically?

When I asked for people to search for a privkey, I gave them the public half of a keypair I generated. They use that public key in the -P argument to vanitygen. They give the privkey that vanitygen finds, and I combine that with the privkey from the pair I generated to arrive at the real privkey for the address.

Without knowing my privkey the publicly published privkey is useless.

Thanks for the education, dooglus!  If you don't mind my following up, I understand from this that you generate a keypair, public and private:

1. pubA ,privA

Then your friends run vanitygen -P to search for a private key

2. vanitygen -P pubA --> privB

Then you somehow combine privB privA

3. doogCombine(privB, privA) --> privC

And privC is a valid private key to go along with pubA?  I'm sorry I'm so dense.  Of course if you don't want to get into the technical details here (perhaps it's too far afield) and you have some links to reading I should do instead, that would also be much appreciated.
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April 15, 2015, 01:58:49 AM
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Thanks for the education, dooglus!  If you don't mind my following up, I understand from this that you generate a keypair, public and private:

1. pubA ,privA

Then your friends run vanitygen -P to search for a private key

2. vanitygen -P pubA --> privB

Then you somehow combine privB privA

3. doogCombine(privB, privA) --> privC

And privC is a valid private key to go along with pubA?  I'm sorry I'm so dense.  Of course if you don't want to get into the technical details here (perhaps it's too far afield) and you have some links to reading I should do instead, that would also be much appreciated.

See http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/5965/what-does-it-mean-by-public-key-on-the-vanitygen-pool for example, or look at the 'vanity wallet' tab at bitaddress.org

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 #2853

Bitcoin talk allows avatars again.

Is there a image of that works for Bitcointalk?

Want me to resize/crop it for you?

If you could I would probably love you forever Tongue

<3

(also include your CLAM address in the post too!)

All CLAM to Silver shipments over the weekend were sent out today!

Thanks guys & gals.

I came up with the following:



Let me know if you like them. Including a CLAM address as requested:
xHws1wamnrkk7RUwv47AKjrSxb2AmmvwrN
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April 15, 2015, 03:48:41 AM
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Let me know if you like them. Including a CLAM address as requested:
xHws1wamnrkk7RUwv47AKjrSxb2AmmvwrN

Looks good! Thanks Cheesy

Put in a small withdraw request to Cryptsy for you.

The other day they were having issues with CLAM withdraws.

https://AltQuick.com/exchange/ - Trade altcoins & Bitcoin Testnet coins with real Bitcoin. Fast, private, and easy!  Free coins too!
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April 15, 2015, 04:37:28 AM
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Put in a small withdraw request to Cryptsy for you.

The other day they were having issues with CLAM withdraws.

Received. Thanks much  Grin
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April 15, 2015, 05:27:58 AM
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I came up with the following:



Let me know if you like them. Including a CLAM address as requested:
xHws1wamnrkk7RUwv47AKjrSxb2AmmvwrN

Very helpful, I see some have already started using them - Thanks! Grin

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April 15, 2015, 02:11:32 PM
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Hi I am new to the forums. However I am not new to bitcoin, programming, hacking, and the like.

I have forked freewil/node-bitcoin on github to create daxxog/node-clamcoin. I hope this will serve as an excelent tool for those interested in building nodejs based CLAM applications.

To install:
Code:
npm install clamcoin

Have any questions/suggestions? Shoot me a bitmessage: BM-2cXVhsskpZEkEdqM6SydRhSC3hwt3QCuJF
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April 15, 2015, 06:41:42 PM
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If people want to spend their internet pirate monies like that... who are we to stop them?
Did someone say pirate!  Arrrrrr!!!  Cheesy

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April 15, 2015, 08:01:47 PM
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Clams has now been added to the CoinWallet.co online wallet service.

That's great news.

I'm wondering the same as BayAreaCoins:

What percentage of the staking reward do you give to your depositors?

Because each currency works off a single client wallet the system works the same as a personal wallet in terms of staking. This means staking rewards are assigned to initial transaction addresses and change addresses. So currently it is a bit of a lottery - but we do not withhold any percentage of the staking reward...

I have several ideas to improve this, so users always get 100% of their staked rewards. One way to do it is from the database, so any generated coins get split between all holders dependant on total percentage of mature coins they hold in the system at that point in time. The other is to move to a manual transaction system so change can always come back to the originating address and staking is assigned by address. Each method has its pros and cons. The first method would mean more of a staking 'pool' where all holders of X coin get a percentage of all staking rewards.

It's on the todo list.  Smiley

I like the staking pool idea also, will be nice to spread things around between coinwallet.co, justdice and my local wallet.
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April 15, 2015, 08:29:19 PM
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Do we really want to be associated with a site that claims to be able to pay 1% interest per hour simply by doing "trading and mining"? It's clearly a Ponzi, and so will inevitably fail.

Innocent until proven guilty in my opinion.

The problem is that as soon as they are proven guilty they will just register a new domain name, change the site design, and start again. I would be surprised if the people behind this scam weren't already "proven guilty" several times before, running almost exactly the same scam.

Just look at the numbers. They *guarantee* returns of 1% *per hour*. That's all the proof you need.

Just-Dice doesn't guarantee any kind of return. In fact we're very upfront about the fact that investors are bankrolling a casino. It's quite possible to suffer large losses if players get lucky.

I think people should know the history behind sites like this, but CLAM is about freedom of speech.  Having a thread removed in regards to this is pretty much breath taking... this thread was supposed to only be self modded in order to keep people from trying to post fake CLAM clients  Lips sealed & spam.  I would hardly say the first post about a new service is anywhere near spam.

Scammers are free to advertise their scams in the scammer section. This thread is for legitimate services. It does CLAM no good at all for people to get sucked in by a Ponzi scheme and lose all their CLAMs. The scammers will only dump their ill-gotten CLAMs anyway in the end.

Doog, you would not believe how many people when told or presented to Just-dice the first person think "Ponzi"?  Because even .5% a day is pretty cray cray... only through further investigation they find that it is legit.  I do not believe enough investigation has been done against this company to have such strong opinion as to prevent my freedom of speech.  I think the CLAM community should support CLAM services regardless of what they are at this point.  

If people think JD is a Ponzi, we can easily prove it isn't. We have a FAQ about it. We can prove solvency, we don't guarantee returns, it's very clear how returns are made. To compare JD with this obvious scam isn't fair. We have done enough investigation. They guarantee 1% per hour returns. That's all the investigation that is needed. We should not be supporting such deception. If they were up-front about it, told everyone they were a Ponzi, that it was a risky game to play, etc. then maybe that's OK. But to outright lie about it just isn't.

If people want to spend their internet pirate monies like that... who are we to stop them?

We can't stop them. I wouldn't want to stop them. I just don't want to be encouraging them to fall for a trick like this. This isn't a "service", it's a scam, pure and simple.

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