[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"

[kolloh]

Bitcoin talk allows avatars again.

Is there a image of that works for Bitcointalk?

Want me to resize/crop it for you?

If you could I would probably love you forever

<3

(also include your CLAM address in the post too!)

All CLAM to Silver shipments over the weekend were sent out today!

Thanks guys & gals.

I came up with the following:



Let me know if you like them. Including a CLAM address as requested:
xHws1wamnrkk7RUwv47AKjrSxb2AmmvwrN

[BayAreaCoins]

Let me know if you like them. Including a CLAM address as requested:
xHws1wamnrkk7RUwv47AKjrSxb2AmmvwrN

Looks good! Thanks

Put in a small withdraw request to Cryptsy for you.

The other day they were having issues with CLAM withdraws.

[kolloh]

Put in a small withdraw request to Cryptsy for you.

The other day they were having issues with CLAM withdraws.

Received. Thanks much 

[SuperClam]

I came up with the following:



Let me know if you like them. Including a CLAM address as requested:
xHws1wamnrkk7RUwv47AKjrSxb2AmmvwrN

Very helpful, I see some have already started using them - Thanks!

[daxxog]

Hi I am new to the forums. However I am not new to bitcoin, programming, hacking, and the like.

I have forked freewil/node-bitcoin on github to create daxxog/node-clamcoin. I hope this will serve as an excelent tool for those interested in building nodejs based CLAM applications.

To install:

Code:

npm install clamcoin

Have any questions/suggestions? Shoot me a bitmessage: BM-2cXVhsskpZEkEdqM6SydRhSC3hwt3QCuJF

[madmartyk]

If people want to spend their internet pirate monies like that... who are we to stop them?

Did someone say pirate!  Arrrrrr!!! 

[thefix]

Clams has now been added to the CoinWallet.co online wallet service.

That's great news.

I'm wondering the same as BayAreaCoins:

What percentage of the staking reward do you give to your depositors?

Because each currency works off a single client wallet the system works the same as a personal wallet in terms of staking. This means staking rewards are assigned to initial transaction addresses and change addresses. So currently it is a bit of a lottery - but we do not withhold any percentage of the staking reward...

I have several ideas to improve this, so users always get 100% of their staked rewards. One way to do it is from the database, so any generated coins get split between all holders dependant on total percentage of mature coins they hold in the system at that point in time. The other is to move to a manual transaction system so change can always come back to the originating address and staking is assigned by address. Each method has its pros and cons. The first method would mean more of a staking 'pool' where all holders of X coin get a percentage of all staking rewards.

It's on the todo list. 

I like the staking pool idea also, will be nice to spread things around between coinwallet.co, justdice and my local wallet.

[dooglus]

Do we really want to be associated with a site that claims to be able to pay 1% interest per hour simply by doing "trading and mining"? It's clearly a Ponzi, and so will inevitably fail.

Innocent until proven guilty in my opinion.

The problem is that as soon as they are proven guilty they will just register a new domain name, change the site design, and start again. I would be surprised if the people behind this scam weren't already "proven guilty" several times before, running almost exactly the same scam.

Just look at the numbers. They *guarantee* returns of 1% *per hour*. That's all the proof you need.

Just-Dice doesn't guarantee any kind of return. In fact we're very upfront about the fact that investors are bankrolling a casino. It's quite possible to suffer large losses if players get lucky.

I think people should know the history behind sites like this, but CLAM is about freedom of speech.  Having a thread removed in regards to this is pretty much breath taking... this thread was supposed to only be self modded in order to keep people from trying to post fake CLAM clients   & spam.  I would hardly say the first post about a new service is anywhere near spam.

Scammers are free to advertise their scams in the scammer section. This thread is for legitimate services. It does CLAM no good at all for people to get sucked in by a Ponzi scheme and lose all their CLAMs. The scammers will only dump their ill-gotten CLAMs anyway in the end.

Doog, you would not believe how many people when told or presented to Just-dice the first person think "Ponzi"?  Because even .5% a day is pretty cray cray... only through further investigation they find that it is legit.  I do not believe enough investigation has been done against this company to have such strong opinion as to prevent my freedom of speech.  I think the CLAM community should support CLAM services regardless of what they are at this point.  

If people think JD is a Ponzi, we can easily prove it isn't. We have a FAQ about it. We can prove solvency, we don't guarantee returns, it's very clear how returns are made. To compare JD with this obvious scam isn't fair. We have done enough investigation. They guarantee 1% per hour returns. That's all the investigation that is needed. We should not be supporting such deception. If they were up-front about it, told everyone they were a Ponzi, that it was a risky game to play, etc. then maybe that's OK. But to outright lie about it just isn't.

If people want to spend their internet pirate monies like that... who are we to stop them?

We can't stop them. I wouldn't want to stop them. I just don't want to be encouraging them to fall for a trick like this. This isn't a "service", it's a scam, pure and simple.

[no141]

Has anyone else noticed a doubling of the time needed to mine a block since about the beginning of the month?

I was getting a block every three days, now it's more like six. So is it everyone or I just got unlucky?

[dooglus]

Has anyone else noticed a doubling of the time needed to mine a block since about the beginning of the month?

I was getting a block every three days, now it's more like six. So is it everyone or I just got unlucky?

It's funny you should mention this, because I plotted the network difficulty against time just a few hours ago. I was looking to see how my recent movement of >50% of the CLAMs from one wallet to another had affected things. "Not much" was the answer - it shows as a short dip to 22 on the right of the chart.

Anyway, here's the plot:



As you can see, it has been pretty stable for the last few months. It waves up and down several times a day, but the average doesn't appear to me to be increasing very quickly, and so I guess the increase in time between blocks you've noticed is mostly bad luck.

[SuperClam]

I think people should know the history behind sites like this, but CLAM is about freedom of speech.  Having a thread removed in regards to this is pretty much breath taking... this thread was supposed to only be self modded in order to keep people from trying to post fake CLAM clients   & spam.  I would hardly say the first post about a new service is anywhere near spam.

...

I do not believe enough investigation has been done against this company to have such strong opinion as to prevent my freedom of speech.  I think the CLAM community should support CLAM services regardless of what they are at this point.  

If people want to spend their internet pirate monies like that... who are we to stop them?

...

The post must have been removed by BitcoinTalk moderators, as it was not removed by anyone involved with CLAM.

EDIT:

Though it is quite obviously a scam.

EDIT #2:

And I was quite honestly considering removing it myself
Chose not to; in the interest of non-censorship or what-not.

[BayAreaCoins]

The post must have been removed by BitcoinTalk moderators, as it was not removed by anyone involved with CLAM.[/size]

Those fuckers.

Well glad to see you stand behind your thoughts of free speech.  

I truly appreciate your dedication to freedom & everything else.  Millions of other people will as well in the future.    

My bad!

[MRKLYE]

The post must have been removed by BitcoinTalk moderators, as it was not removed by anyone involved with CLAM.[/size]

Those fuckers.

Well glad to see you stand behind your thoughts of free speech.  

I truly appreciate your dedication to freedom & everything else.  Millions of other people will as well in the future.    

My bad!

I like the clamspeech function for this. You can send a message that will be stored for the life of CLAM (and beyond in the blockchain)

[SuperClam]

Hi I am new to the forums. However I am not new to bitcoin, programming, hacking, and the like.

I have forked freewil/node-bitcoin on github to create daxxog/node-clamcoin. I hope this will serve as an excelent tool for those interested in building nodejs based CLAM applications.

To install:

Code:

npm install clamcoin

Have any questions/suggestions? Shoot me a bitmessage: BM-2cXVhsskpZEkEdqM6SydRhSC3hwt3QCuJF

Thank you for joining us! 
We can use all of the help we can get

[BayAreaCoins]

Turns out yesterday the Prime-dice & XMR fan boy Bitcointalk mod "mpreps" took the offensive removing a number of my Pro CLAM posts and other posts.

We need to stop this kid where he stands.

Keep him out of the CLAM thread!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1026785.0

(Creative I was doing my once a day CLAM community adoption post & testing withdraws... hard to do that when some asshole who doesn't even like CLAMS bans me! )

ALSO:

Having issues with withdraws from that cryptosplit place.

Be careful!

[SuperClam]

Turns out yesterday the Prime-dice & XMR fan boy Bitcointalk mod "mpreps" took the offensive removing a number of my Pro CLAM posts and other posts.
We need to stop this kid where he stands.
Keep him out of the CLAM thread!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1026785.0
(Creative I was doing my once a day CLAM community adoption post & testing withdraws... hard to do that when some asshole who doesn't even like CLAMS bans me! )
ALSO:
Having issues with withdraws from that cryptosplit place.
Be careful!

I understand your position, even agree from a perspective of idealism.
Further, I will not delete your most recent post quoted above, just as the original post all of this fuss is about was not deleted.

That said, I admittedly considered deleting the original post, as it was almost certainly a scam.  I chose not to delete the post primarily because dooglus did an eloquent and fine job of warning thread readers about the post.  However, the link in the referenced post WAS a referral link, and it WAS a link to a nefarious (questionable at BEST) service.  Within those bounds alone, I believe mprep was likely within moderator rights to delete the post.

As an aside, there has been a time or two where I also felt mprep may have been over-zealous in moderating this sub-forum.  (?)He was messaged to inquire about the removal, the reasoning was not entirely sound in my opinion but he had the decency to respectfully respond and his argument was defend-able within the terms we agree to when we participate on this forum.


In short, CLAM does not support censorship - however, in this particular case, I agree with dooglus' interpretation: it was a sour affiliate link, that could have resulted in harming an unsuspecting user.

[MadCow]

What was the census date for the clam distribution, and what balance did your btc ltc doge addresses need to have?
thanks

[kolloh]

What was the census date for the clam distribution, and what balance did your btc ltc doge addresses need to have?
thanks

The address needed to be funded on 12th, May 2014. You simple need a balance above "dust" levels for each of the coins. I am not sure the exact numbers offhand but whatever is considered dust for each of the coins.

[BitcoinForumator]

Is there an expiration date for claiming Clams?

[kolloh]

Is there an expiration date for claiming Clams?

Nope, there shouldn't be any expiration date on claiming them. They basically just sit unclaimed until they are claimed.