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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1149888 times)
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February 06, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
 #2301

Would it be smart to make an online-wallet service for CLAM?

Yes! That is a staking pool too please.

So people earn CLAMS by storing clams safely on the online wallet (something like Blockchain or anything tbh... we just need clam services!)


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February 06, 2015, 12:06:46 PM
 #2302

Would it be smart to make an online-wallet service for CLAM?

Yes! That is a staking pool too please.

So people earn CLAMS by storing clams safely on the online wallet (something like Blockchain or anything tbh... we just need clam services!)

Anyone wanna start one with me?
got a few servers we could test out with


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February 06, 2015, 12:12:53 PM
 #2303

Would it be smart to make an online-wallet service for CLAM?

Yes! That is a staking pool too please.

So people earn CLAMS by storing clams safely on the online wallet (something like Blockchain or anything tbh... we just need clam services!)

Anyone wanna start one with me?
got a few servers we could test out with

I'm worthless as a males tit as far as interweb business like that.

I'm really only good for selling shit and cheer leading Cheesy

I can def speak privately with you and brain storm ect ect! Love that shit Cheesy

Maybe someone else is thinking the same as you though and PM's.


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February 06, 2015, 12:16:43 PM
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Well... you could be a cheer leader for the people whose trying to make the online wallet.  Grin
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February 06, 2015, 12:24:24 PM
 #2305

Would it be smart to make an online-wallet service for CLAM?

Yes! That is a staking pool too please.

So people earn CLAMS by storing clams safely on the online wallet (something like Blockchain or anything tbh... we just need clam services!)

Anyone wanna start one with me?
got a few servers we could test out with

The third party interventionist/ private bankster wannabe is strong in this one.

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February 06, 2015, 12:31:15 PM
 #2306

Would it be smart to make an online-wallet service for CLAM?

Yes! That is a staking pool too please.

So people earn CLAMS by storing clams safely on the online wallet (something like Blockchain or anything tbh... we just need clam services!)

Anyone wanna start one with me?
got a few servers we could test out with

The third party interventionist/ private bankster wannabe is strong in this one.

It'd be a great and fun try Tongue


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February 06, 2015, 01:46:21 PM
Last edit: February 06, 2015, 01:56:46 PM by SuperClam
 #2307

One more question:
I put CLAMS wallet software in my dropbox folder.
When I open wallet on 1st PC, I have MY wallet address,
but when I open on 2nd PC I have DIFFERENT wallet address.
How to use one same address on two PC?
Maybe I need copy some another files to dropbox?

As other senior forum users have pointed out, but repeated for emphasis:

Do not simultaneously use and alter a wallet.dat file on different machines or instances of the client.
Bad things can and WILL happen.







So, what made JustDice adopt them - what's special about CLAMS?
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I like the initial distribution - CLAMs were effectively all pre-mined by the developers and then all given away, to everyone, equally.
Shouldn't we assume that the developers moved their own BTC/LTC/DOGE into many addresses, sometime before May 12th, and that CLAMS are maybe one of the greatest premines in altcoin history? Wink
It's brilliant because we don't know if the unclaimed CLAMS belong to random people, an exchange's hot wallet, or the devs.


A concern that is reasonable, and has been voiced and responded to previously and repeatedly in this thread.
Mostly towards the beginning of this thread, if someone wishes to review them.
All of which still exist.  We don't censor our thread Smiley

It is worth noting that the vast majority of the distribution went to holders of BTC. .
More than 95% if I remember correctly (a simple fact of the scale of the networks), though I am not positive on the numbers.

Obviously, BTC would be the most cost prohibitive network to execute such an "attack" on, due to the value of the coin itself (which was at much higher fiat prices at the time) and the transaction fees themselves.

In addition to dooglus' comments, I would also mention that there are only 500k CLAM currently in circulation.  
Even if you can't trust the motives of us CLAM developers, consider this:

Only 290k of those CLAMS were "dug" (the rest are staked coins).
Even if every single claimed CLAM, i.e. every single claimed BTC, LTC, DOGE output, was evil;
That would still only be something like ~2% of the total distribution.  

In fairness, there is no way of knowing ultimately how many will be claimed and the current total supply is much less than that.
Just making the point that even if you assume the ABSOLUTE worst, think the Devs claimed every CLAM ever claimed, trust absolutely no one, and think we are the most patient scammers in the history of the internet.......... well, even then the argument isn't all that impressive, large, or frightening.



On a side note, I access the internet on a potato laptop with uncertain internet access.
We must be doing it wrong.

Not everyone sells their soul for money; idealism is still alive and strong.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147
Proof-Of-Chain, 100% Distributed BEFORE Launch.
Everyone who owned BTC, LTC, or DOGE at launch got free CLAMS.
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February 06, 2015, 02:21:16 PM
 #2308

Would it be smart to make an online-wallet service for CLAM?

Yes! That is a staking pool too please.

So people earn CLAMS by storing clams safely on the online wallet (something like Blockchain or anything tbh... we just need clam services!)

As a few people on JD already know, Iam trying to get something like this running and if everything goes right I might release it ovet the next week
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February 06, 2015, 05:54:36 PM
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Clam really needs a stake pool.
Maybe Clam should switch from bitcoin protocol to NXT protocol.
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February 06, 2015, 06:31:05 PM
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CLAM client v1.4.5 TEST-build



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I installed the new win64 version and 5 of my staked clams disappeared. Here is the story: My wallet, ver 1.4.4, started to stake several times in an hour but after 2 confirmations the staked clam would show conflicted. Five of the staked clams held on for 9,12,15,16,18 confirmations. I installed new wallet and those five now show conflicted (22 total now show conflicted). So far new wallet has not staked and shows 10 days to next stake. I have 35 clams in wallet how often should they stake? I was getting one clam per week but the last two weeks nothing, other than the 22 conflicted.


Is something wrong with the staking?  Because I haven't been getting any clams either..  I used to get around 1 per day, and have a somewhat good amount set for staking.  Haven't been getting anything for the last week.. which seems very unusual.  My time is sync'd, and block numbers seem fine too!

Or, is it just because tons more people are staking??



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We don't censor our thread Smiley

(much)

In addition to dooglus' comments, I would also mention that there are only 500k CLAM currently in circulation.  
Even if you can't trust the motives of us CLAM developers, consider this:

Only 290k of those CLAMS were "dug" (the rest are staked coins).
Even if every single claimed CLAM, i.e. every single claimed BTC, LTC, DOGE output, was evil;
That would still only be something like ~2% of the total distribution.  

I think the point was that 10M of the 15M undug CLAMs could be in addresses you control. You just didn't dig them up yet because you "knew" CLAM was eventually going to catch on.

Anyway, my poor laptop spent the night compiling historical day-by-day stats of the total and active supply stats so coinmarketcap.com can fill in the history on their CLAM market cap chart. As a result I was able to generate this chart showing block count and active supply over time:



The raw data is here: http://privatepaste.com/18a59b4f72

The post to the coinmarketcap thread is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199685.msg10379165#msg10379165

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February 06, 2015, 06:53:50 PM
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Would it be smart to make an online-wallet service for CLAM?

Just-Dice.com acts as an online CLAM wallet service, so long as you can trust yourself not to gamble.

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Is something wrong with the staking?  Because I haven't been getting any clams either..  I used to get around 1 per day, and have a somewhat good amount set for staking.  Haven't been getting anything for the last week.. which seems very unusual.  My time is sync'd, and block numbers seem fine too!

Or, is it just because tons more people are staking??

I estimate that each 360 CLAMs in your wallet should stake about once per day on average at the moment. This is based on a single datapoint (JD has 360k CLAMs and stakes 1k times per day). More datapoints from other large stakers would be appreciated.

There's another ~100k CLAMs staking outside of JD (since 400 blocks per day are being staked outside of JD) so I guess there are other big stakers out there.

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Is something wrong with the staking?  Because I haven't been getting any clams either..  I used to get around 1 per day, and have a somewhat good amount set for staking.  Haven't been getting anything for the last week.. which seems very unusual.  My time is sync'd, and block numbers seem fine too!

Or, is it just because tons more people are staking??

I estimate that each 360 CLAMs in your wallet should stake about once per day on average at the moment. This is based on a single datapoint (JD has 360k CLAMs and stakes 1k times per day). More datapoints from other large stakers would be appreciated.

There's another ~100k CLAMs staking outside of JD (since 400 blocks per day are being staked outside of JD) so I guess there are other big stakers out there.

Well for the set amount I have (actually above 360)  I haven't seen anything for days.
Time is sync'd,  block number same as block number at http://khashier.com/
Plus, the amounts that I have set up total above 360 and are split up in different addresses, so I'm not waiting for any maturing.

I don't know.. wallet is unlocked, icon says its staking.
Just seems strange.  

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February 06, 2015, 07:26:57 PM
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I don't know.. wallet is unlocked, icon says its staking.
Just seems strange.

Have you been seeing orphan blocks, or just nothing at all?

If you PM me your IP address, I'll check my logs and see if I notice anything weird relating to your peer. I expect you will have connected to at least one of my peers recently.

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February 06, 2015, 07:30:15 PM
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I don't know.. wallet is unlocked, icon says its staking.
Just seems strange.

Have you been seeing orphan blocks, or just nothing at all?

If you PM me your IP address, I'll check my logs and see if I notice anything weird relating to your peer. I expect you will have connected to at least one of my peers recently.

Nothing at all..  no orphaned blocks either. 
I'll try to send a pm soon!

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CLAM client v1.4.5 TEST-build



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I installed the new win64 version and 5 of my staked clams disappeared. Here is the story: My wallet, ver 1.4.4, started to stake several times in an hour but after 2 confirmations the staked clam would show conflicted. Five of the staked clams held on for 9,12,15,16,18 confirmations. I installed new wallet and those five now show conflicted (22 total now show conflicted). So far new wallet has not staked and shows 10 days to next stake. I have 35 clams in wallet how often should they stake? I was getting one clam per week but the last two weeks nothing, other than the 22 conflicted.

Just out of curiosity,  what was the issue in this case?

Edit: never mind.. probably because of version 1.4.4 ?


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An issue was reported recently concerning a lack of connections in v1.4.5:
  https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/issues/137

Is anyone running v1.4.5 and actually getting incoming connections?

Running "getpeerinfo" in the debug console will show you "inbound" for each peer. Is it "true" for anyone?

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An issue was reported recently concerning a lack of connections in v1.4.5:
  https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/issues/137

Is anyone running v1.4.5 and actually getting incoming connections?

Running "getpeerinfo" in the debug console will show you "inbound" for each peer. Is it "true" for anyone?

Hey,  mine all show false ! 

How do I fix?

Thanks
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An issue was reported recently concerning a lack of connections in v1.4.5:
  https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/issues/137

Is anyone running v1.4.5 and actually getting incoming connections?

Running "getpeerinfo" in the debug console will show you "inbound" for each peer. Is it "true" for anyone?

Hey,  mine all show false ! 

How do I fix?

Thanks

Is it now mandatory to have to use UPnP or port forwarding???

I didn't have to do this in previous versions!

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