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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1150828 times)
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August 12, 2015, 02:31:32 AM
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seems CLAM will be going up, maybe to even 0.015
is there a pump or is this normal ?

   Normal,  There are so few coins, and folks are snapping them up to invest at Just-Dice.  I was hoping to see .01, but it hit that and keeps right on going.  A lot of
folks are also using Clams to gamble, so they need them too. 

  Right now there are 823,208 clams out in the wild, 632,163 are on Just dice.  The rest are either on exchanges or peoples wallets staking.   

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August 12, 2015, 07:18:40 AM
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seems CLAM will be going up, maybe to even 0.015
is there a pump or is this normal ?

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/clams/#charts

Smooth

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seems CLAM will be going up, maybe to even 0.015
is there a pump or is this normal ?

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/clams/#charts

Smooth

http://worldcoinindex.com/coin/Clam is nice too:


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August 12, 2015, 09:55:57 AM
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CLAM represents free/protected speech; and none of us would be here if crypto in general didn't have a great deal to offer to the world when it comes to freedom.

Let the world know, re-tweet:

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August 12, 2015, 05:05:42 PM
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Why are CLAM getting so much value?

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August 12, 2015, 05:49:41 PM
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Why are CLAM getting so much value?

There is a theory that demand driven by Just-Dice.com has caused the recent spike in the price of CLAM. Most of the CLAMs are in the Just-Dice bankroll, earning around 0.2% per day rather than sitting in sell orders on an exchange earning nothing. That means there's not much supply for people wanting to buy, and so the price tends to increase.

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August 12, 2015, 09:03:01 PM
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Why are CLAM getting so much value?

There is a theory that demand driven by Just-Dice.com has caused the recent spike in the price of CLAM. Most of the CLAMs are in the Just-Dice bankroll, earning around 0.2% per day rather than sitting in sell orders on an exchange earning nothing. That means there's not much supply for people wanting to buy, and so the price tends to increase.

I'm waiting for the annoucement that CLAM changes name to Just-Dice-Coin.  Smiley
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August 12, 2015, 09:56:58 PM
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Why are CLAM getting so much value?

There is a theory that demand driven by Just-Dice.com has caused the recent spike in the price of CLAM. Most of the CLAMs are in the Just-Dice bankroll, earning around 0.2% per day rather than sitting in sell orders on an exchange earning nothing. That means there's not much supply for people wanting to buy, and so the price tends to increase.

Thank you! Smiley

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August 13, 2015, 01:31:09 AM
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Why are CLAM getting so much value?

There is a theory that demand driven by Just-Dice.com has caused the recent spike in the price of CLAM. Most of the CLAMs are in the Just-Dice bankroll, earning around 0.2% per day rather than sitting in sell orders on an exchange earning nothing. That means there's not much supply for people wanting to buy, and so the price tends to increase.

Thank you! Smiley

oh whatsa the story about just-dice ? Smiley
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oh whatsa the story about just-dice ? Smiley
ivem ised all this but loving the coin! and admin really helpful - answers my dumb questions all the time he:)

iven ised? I can't begin to guess what you're trying to say there.

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oh whatsa the story about just-dice ? Smiley
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iven ised? I can't begin to guess what you're trying to say there.

I've missed all this but loving the coin!

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oh whatsa the story about just-dice ? Smiley
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iven ised? I can't begin to guess what you're trying to say there.

I've missed all this but loving the coin!

Oh, yeah. Duh.

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August 13, 2015, 12:17:15 PM
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Why are CLAM getting so much value?

There is a theory that demand driven by Just-Dice.com has caused the recent spike in the price of CLAM. Most of the CLAMs are in the Just-Dice bankroll, earning around 0.2% per day rather than sitting in sell orders on an exchange earning nothing. That means there's not much supply for people wanting to buy, and so the price tends to increase.

Doesn't that seem like its becoming too centralized around your site?  
Kind of defeats the purpose of a decentralized currency.. no?

I also don't see how you can offer any real proof of what goes on server side.  
Any programmer knows that "provably fair" could just be being controlled server side/behind the scenes by subroutines to concoct "provably fair" to the end user.
Without any real transparency of what goes on in the server I don't know how you could prove anything.

It is a great idea though, and people seem to be falling for it. Smiley





   Have you read the FAQ on Provably fair?  It explains exactly whats going on server side.  Once you know the server seed, you can sit down with a pencil and paper and calculate the rolls that should have been produced. 

 

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Why are CLAM getting so much value?

There is a theory that demand driven by Just-Dice.com has caused the recent spike in the price of CLAM. Most of the CLAMs are in the Just-Dice bankroll, earning around 0.2% per day rather than sitting in sell orders on an exchange earning nothing. That means there's not much supply for people wanting to buy, and so the price tends to increase.

Doesn't that seem like its becoming too centralized around your site?  
Kind of defeats the purpose of a decentralized currency.. no?

I also don't see how you can offer any real proof of what goes on server side.  
Any programmer knows that "provably fair" could just be being controlled server side/behind the scenes by subroutines to concoct "provably fair" to the end user.
Without any real transparency of what goes on in the server I don't know how you could prove anything.

It is a great idea though, and people seem to be falling for it. Smiley





   Have you read the FAQ on Provably fair?  It explains exactly whats going on server side.  Once you know the server seed, you can sit down with a pencil and paper and calculate the rolls that should have been produced. 

 

And where is the proof that the "server seed" wasn't just generated for you based on a specific result?
There is real no transparency of what goes on in the server,  to put it in layman's terms - the server shows you what it wants you to see.
I'm not going to argue this any further.





   No argument.  I guess you just don't understand how it works.  I'll answer your question for others. 


Your given a Hash of the server seed, along with your client seed.   Once you've given up on a specific server seed, you are shown what it was.  You can then hash it to make sure it's the seed that would result in the hash you were given to start. 

   I'll admit I'm no expert on hashing algorithms, but I don't think it would be very easy to concoct a number that when hashed will generate the shown hash, plus result in the experienced rolls. 

   Unfortunately for the gamblers (of which I'm one) Math is a bitch....   

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I am staking now for a few days, in 2 days from now I shoud receive my first reward. I am very curious/excited how much CLAM it will be  Grin
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I got the latest qt wallet from ClamClient.com; it's been stuck on 26 weeks behind for close to 24h. Did I miss something? I got a list of nodes and added to a conf file and that doesn't seem to have made a difference. I had been using the staking pool at CoinWallet but figured a local wallet would be a better option.

EDIT: one of the nodes I added seems to have been the ticket, it's creeping along as we speak.

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I am staking now for a few days, in 2 days from now I shoud receive my first reward. I am very curious/excited how much CLAM it will be  Grin

Block reward is 1 clam + the fees attached to that block.

I'd expect somewhere like 1 clam to 1.01.

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I got the latest qt wallet from ClamClient.com; it's been stuck on 26 weeks behind for close to 24h. Did I miss something? I got a list of nodes and added to a conf file and that doesn't seem to have made a difference. I had been using the staking pool at CoinWallet but figured a local wallet would be a better option.
  You could try stopping and restarting, sometimes that get it going again, or you can go to the end of the op, and look for dooglus's bootstrap.  I'm hoping that's a good pointer to the latest bootstrap.  That should get you up to Monday I believe.  

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I got the latest qt wallet from ClamClient.com; it's been stuck on 26 weeks behind for close to 24h. Did I miss something? I got a list of nodes and added to a conf file and that doesn't seem to have made a difference. I had been using the staking pool at CoinWallet but figured a local wallet would be a better option.
  You could try stopping and restarting, sometimes that get it going again, or you can go to the end of the op, and look for dooglus's bootstrap.  I'm hoping that's a good pointer to the latest bootstrap.  That should get you up to Monday I believe.  

Thanks for the tip on the latest bootstrap, the one I found was 6 months old. Also one of the recent nodes I added seems to have kicked it into gear.

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I got the latest qt wallet from ClamClient.com; it's been stuck on 26 weeks behind for close to 24h. Did I miss something? I got a list of nodes and added to a conf file and that doesn't seem to have made a difference. I had been using the staking pool at CoinWallet but figured a local wallet would be a better option.

EDIT: one of the nodes I added seems to have been the ticket, it's creeping along as we speak.

Version 1.4.16 added a dynamic peer list. It will automatically connect to the most reliable peers so you shouldn't need to copy/paste lists of IP addresses:

    https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/releases/tag/v1.4.16

And my bootstrap file here is usually no more than a few weeks old:

    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147.msg9772191#msg9772191

That post also tells you where to find a series of partial bootstrap files, so you can download just the pieces for the blocks you're missing and stick them together yourself into a custom bootstrap file.

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