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February 02, 2015, 10:34:43 AM
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Anyone want help out with three questions from a reporter? The document is on google doc and open to edit for everyone with the link. It's pretty basic questions, have a look if you want.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cAFfaUjYUCXc8VMk341F7yR99OhhfEq-Z7xNpRQagkM/edit?usp=sharing

I can't guarantee that your contribution end-up in the paper, of course.

If you have contributed, write your BTT nick on the document and send a PM here with your BURST address and i'll send some coins as a token of appreciation. Sending donations to participants is a intention, and not a promise: Donations can be withhold if I believe the member lie or if too many members are included in writing or editing.

Thanks!

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February 02, 2015, 10:35:31 AM
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This is the worst coin i have tried to setup! It's annoying as hell and time consuming! For two days i have been trying -.-

Have you read the guides?

Here is a guide on YouTube for Windows, remember that it's six month but it still shows some of the basic steps.
http://youtu.be/b4zOAHoncF0

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February 02, 2015, 11:01:12 AM
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This is the worst coin i have tried to setup! It's annoying as hell and time consuming! For two days i have been trying -.-

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH... and I'm going on a month and still running into shit. I've had to delete two rants tonight already before I posted them. Jesus.

PoC2 couldnt' come sooner. Someone should make a GPU assisted miner, but I think all the people that can already purchased super beefy systems so there is no incentive for them to do so. Oh, BTW, you need a super beefy system if you want to mine this coin in any sizeable amount (10TB+).
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February 02, 2015, 11:08:54 AM
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This is the worst coin i have tried to setup! It's annoying as hell and time consuming! For two days i have been trying -.-

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH... and I'm going on a month and still running into shit. I've had to delete two rants tonight already before I posted them. Jesus.

PoC2 couldnt' come sooner. Someone should make a GPU assisted miner, but I think all the people that can already purchased super beefy systems so there is no incentive for them to do so. Oh, BTW, you need a super beefy system if you want to mine this coin in any sizeable amount (10TB+).

Thats actually not true at all. You can mine 10TB with a Notebook from 2008 without big problems. I even use the RAM-hungrier java miner and still it's working with 4GB Ram. You should upgrade with an ExpressCard to USB 3.0 or even better SATA and you are good for going.
Of course you have to use Linux.

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February 02, 2015, 11:19:30 AM
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https://temp.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_burst

Something is moving... Wink Great volume too!

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February 02, 2015, 11:28:54 AM
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This is the worst coin i have tried to setup! It's annoying as hell and time consuming! For two days i have been trying -.-

Have you read the guides?

Here is a guide on YouTube for Windows, remember that it's six month but it still shows some of the basic steps.
http://youtu.be/b4zOAHoncF0

I have read alot and it seems that even the way you use a batch file to create a plot changes from version to version, so solution to past problems won't solve your present problems. I also read that i need alot of space for it to realy make any sense mining, is that true? I have 1TB of free space, but everyone is talking about 4TB, 10+TB some guy even got 18TB, can't compete with that. Btw what is the filled space used up for? Is it senseless mining like most other coins? I know you use less energy, but wouldn't it be better to use it for something?

This is the worst coin i have tried to setup! It's annoying as hell and time consuming! For two days i have been trying -.-

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH... and I'm going on a month and still running into shit. I've had to delete two rants tonight already before I posted them. Jesus.

PoC2 couldnt' come sooner. Someone should make a GPU assisted miner, but I think all the people that can already purchased super beefy systems so there is no incentive for them to do so. Oh, BTW, you need a super beefy system if you want to mine this coin in any sizeable amount (10TB+).

This stress is not worth it, i guess most people will give in in less time than me -> coin isn't going to attract more people -> coin might die

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February 02, 2015, 11:34:40 AM
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https://temp.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_burst

Something is moving... Wink Great volume too!

and seems like this will continue Wink

go go burst!!!   as i always sayd, this is just the beginning!!! Tongue
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February 02, 2015, 11:40:31 AM
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I have read alot and it seems that even the way you use a batch file to create a plot changes from version to version, so solution to past problems won't solve your present problems. I also read that i need alot of space for it to realy make any sense mining, is that true? I have 1TB of free space, but everyone is talking about 4TB, 10+TB some guy even got 18TB, can't compete with that. Btw what is the filled space used up for? Is it senseless mining like most other coins? I know you use less energy, but wouldn't it be better to use it for something?


Today you can make around 5$ with 1TB per Month. If you have that 1TB lying around doing nothing, you should mine with it and you get 4 or 8 times (depends on your kwh costs) the money back for your pc hardware electricity costs. 5$ per month is no so much would you think, but it depends where you are living. Imagine you work in a very poor country for 20$ per week or so.

With 10TB you make 50$ per month an so on... and the price is climbing.

The space is filled and you can't use it for other things, but if you have free space available just lying around, you are wasting it too.

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February 02, 2015, 11:40:46 AM
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We are working about creating a more user-friendly plotter-miner with a GUI(without using terminal!), if you try to mine in Ubuntu i can help you to set-up your miner. Respect about the filled space, the burstdev said that in the future that space can be used to create like a huge cloud storage, but hey, this coin is young, PoC  is totaly new, be patient!

If you have any more question, ask me via private messages, Burst deserves a try ! Wink

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February 02, 2015, 11:55:49 AM
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https://temp.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_burst

Something is moving... Wink Great volume too!

and seems like this will continue Wink

go go burst!!!   as i always sayd, this is just the beginning!!! Tongue

7btc buy wall @ 250sat, and several smaller after that. Could we get a new floor?

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February 02, 2015, 12:04:01 PM
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https://temp.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_burst

Something is moving... Wink Great volume too!

and seems like this will continue Wink

go go burst!!!   as i always sayd, this is just the beginning!!! Tongue

7btc buy wall @ 250sat, and several smaller after that. Could we get a new floor?

be sure about that, i dont know what you really think about it guys but from my point of view Burst was/is so cheap... soon or later ppl will start to realize that this is the best alt coin ATM ( because of his features ), with the best mining algorithm, is just a question of time that this will happend, are you guys ready for it? Tongue

the burstdev said that in the future that space can be used to create like a huge cloud storage

no comments, can you imagine that? awesome, just awesome Smiley
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February 02, 2015, 12:21:21 PM
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I'm now trying the Dev Pool V2 at http://178.62.39.204:8121/. And it can be mine by using pocminer_pool.jar only, right? What if I have plots in 5 harddisks, so must I start 5 pocminer_pool.jar instances in different harddisk? Correct me if I'm wrong?

Thanks~~

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February 02, 2015, 12:27:38 PM
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I'm now trying the Dev Pool V2 at http://178.62.39.204:8121/. And it can be mine by using pocminer_pool.jar only, right? What if I have plots in 5 harddisks, so must I start 5 pocminer_pool.jar instances in different harddisk? Correct me if I'm wrong?

Thanks~~

you can also use blago miner with special settings for dev2 pool.

Code:
{
   "Mode" : "poolV2",
   "Server" : "178.62.39.204",
   "Port": 8121,
   "UpdaterAddr" : "178.62.39.204",
   "UpdaterPort": 8121,

   "EnableProxy": false,
   "ProxyPort": 8126,

 "Paths":["W:\\plots"],
   "CacheSize" : 200000,

   "ShowMsg" : false ,
   "ShowUpdates" : false,

   "UseSorting" : false,
   "Debug": false,

 "UseFastRcv" : true,
   "SendBestOnly": false,
   "SendInterval": 100,
   "UpdateInterval": 2000
}

Please do use the path to your plots in the path section.

Have fun.
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February 02, 2015, 12:35:59 PM
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^I'm on core i7 16GB, 30 TB plots on 8 external USB 3 drives. The optimization is ordering your plots in a way that each block it reads sequential from your HDD with much less seeks. HDDs are much, much faster with sequential reading. When some of the plots are optimized and others are not you can't see a big difference, but when they are all optimized you'll read your plots much faster.

I did a 1 optimized vs a 1 unoptimized comparison on two different systems and both unoptimized drives were faster. I just did 2x optimized vs 2x unoptimized and the unoptimized pair were still faster. I can imagine the unoptimized drives are even faster with more memory and a higher stagger size.

Watching the reading numbers in resource monitor, the unoptimized drives read faster then the optimized drives as per my screenshot on the last page, which I confirmed on two different systems.

I understand what 'optimizing' is supposed to do (sequential vs random seeks), but it doesn't seem to be doing it, I messed up the optimization somehow, or I'm supposed to tweak Blagos miner somehow to better utilize the optimized plots. If a disk goes from mainly random seeks to sequential transfers, it should be much, much faster, especially on my 5900RPM drives, it's not doing that though. That should be a given regardless the number of disks on the system.

Sequential throughput on these drives is from 80-180MB/s. It's reading the optimized disks at 10MB/s.

Also worth mentioning, these are 5TB drives.


It could very well be that my systems are too slow to properly utilize the optimized drives, however, the unoptimized drives shouldn't be faster. I mean I'm not making this stuff up, I'm reading this out of resource monitor and looking at the mine times on Blagos.

This may have something to do with the unoptimized drives still using a stagger, while the optimized ones no longer use a buffer(stagger?). Is there anyway to force a optimized drive to continue to use a buffer?
Attached is a secreenshot of the resource monitor of my configuration. On the screenshot you could see mining, generating plots and optimizing at the same time. Total input/output of the HDDs is 412 MB/s (I've seen it up to 460 MB/s). One of the disks is located on 1000 MB/s LAN and it's not shown in the "Disk" tab, so the I/O is even more then that. I'm not sure where your slow I/O comes from and I hope the screenshot helps.



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February 02, 2015, 12:38:04 PM
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What will change for miners if poc2 will appear?
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February 02, 2015, 12:42:24 PM
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you can also use blago miner with special settings for dev2 pool.

Code:
{
   "Mode" : "poolV2",
   "Server" : "178.62.39.204",
   "Port": 8121,
   "UpdaterAddr" : "178.62.39.204",
   "UpdaterPort": 8121,

   "EnableProxy": false,
   "ProxyPort": 8126,

 "Paths":["W:\\plots"],
   "CacheSize" : 200000,

   "ShowMsg" : false ,
   "ShowUpdates" : false,

   "UseSorting" : false,
   "Debug": false,

 "UseFastRcv" : true,
   "SendBestOnly": false,
   "SendInterval": 100,
   "UpdateInterval": 2000
}

Please do use the path to your plots in the path section.

Have fun.

So, the main keyword in blago miner is "poolV2", thanks alot Smiley

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February 02, 2015, 12:46:54 PM
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please also correct the other parameters, they are also relevant for poolV2
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February 02, 2015, 01:18:54 PM
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20:18:14 [14843148434048959721] found deadline 3949625567
20:18:14 [14843148434048959721] found deadline 2189455428
20:18:14 [14843148434048959721] found deadline 138245019
20:18:14 [14843148434048959721] sent DL:       138245019  1600d 01:23:39
20:18:14 [14843148434048959721] 2189455428 > 138245019  discarded
20:18:14 [14843148434048959721] 3949625567 > 138245019  discarded
20:18:15 [14843148434048959721] confirmed DL:  138245019  1600d 01:23:39
20:18:15 [14843148434048959721] 4969812352 > 138245019  discarded
20:18:16 [14843148434048959721] 5807127477 > 138245019  discarded
20:18:16 [14843148434048959721] 6659508572 > 138245019  discarded

What mean discarded?

Take a look at the new PoC coin! Burstcoin! Mining by Hard Disk!!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.0
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February 02, 2015, 01:22:40 PM
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What will change for miners if poc2 will appear?

if you read some posts ago,
burstcoin dev tell who POC2 will not released soon...
and if i understand well..
POC and POC2 will coexsist!!!

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February 02, 2015, 01:33:37 PM
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please also correct the other parameters, they are also relevant for poolV2

Do you mean the server URL? I have other parameters same with current pool (as you listed) other than the Mode and Server.

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