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January 30, 2015, 12:23:13 AM
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We have noticed that a lot more people are able to answer mining questions now than before - that's nice Smiley But ideally we'd not have any questions if the guides were good enough.

We would like to update crowetic's guide but have little time doing so. Here it is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ytq47AmQZ1rzjoFuMW33c82JkuJ1L61Pdp95ZLbi3-k/

So here's an offer: if you feel like you could improve the text, email burst@countermail.com, include your BTT nick and some links to answers you've given in the thread or at BurstForum.com, and I'll give editing rights on the document. If you contribute constructively to the guide, I will send at least 5000 BURST to you as a token of appreciation. If you do a lot of quality work, the payment will be considerably higher.

We want the best possible guide Smiley


If not a minimum of three people email their interest and are considered qualified, I'll make it open for all to edit but will not pay anyone.



The same conditions applies to TetraHect0rCannabinol's linux guide found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8299637#msg8299637 It will also be on google docs.

Thanks!



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***EDIT2: If you have try to email already I'm sorry, but I've corrected the email address now: burst@countermail.com and nothing else.




I am working on getting a guide done and this will be listed on burstcoin section on my website very shortly. Full guide completed with video guidance and a lot more too as been learning as much as one can to better understand this coin and then help others out with it too


Impressive! A couple of things:
- a video guide is being produced already, so if I were you I would not start that project at now.
- in the post I said that We want the best possible guide! We could use your document and crow's - and you get paid and might get ppl helping you. How about that?


a non-Java port is also needed to increase adoption.  the latest generation is not so keen on Java.

"A non-Java port"? We were discussing guides, but we are planning for a complete GUI for both plotting and mining.

That's one option in a crowd-fund case in AT, to get together and collect the the means to pay a dev to do that. But no one seems interested in discussing the next AT case, which I posted about. Until we get a GUI, I find guides important to reduce mining problems Smiley

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I had nothing but problems and seeing people hitting the same errors is common like java run time errors or direct x problems too got all that solved and roughly rote up in documents.

I stil lgot a few nuts n bolts that need fixing like slow plotting and crashing of GPU drivers on me R9 280x trying to work though and think found cause to problem but sill keeps on doing it. CPU plotting is fine but GPU mehh driver crash and game over restart plotting.

Once I have done this, in all honestly am not really too bothered about payments as I like to help out and support people in the future use of Burst or crypto alike if got problems ill help out where I can. Payment for me people coming to site or been credited for the work as author or part of auteur team is fine. Donations welcome but I often send back or pass coins on if people need for first deposit on their burst wallet etc.

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January 30, 2015, 02:05:08 AM
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I had nothing but problems and seeing people hitting the same errors is common like java run time errors or direct x problems too got all that solved and roughly rote up in documents.

I stil lgot a few nuts n bolts that need fixing like slow plotting and crashing of GPU drivers on me R9 280x trying to work though and think found cause to problem but sill keeps on doing it. CPU plotting is fine but GPU mehh driver crash and game over restart plotting.

Once I have done this, in all honestly am not really too bothered about payments as I like to help out and support people in the future use of Burst or crypto alike if got problems ill help out where I can. Payment for me people coming to site or been credited for the work as author or part of auteur team is fine. Donations welcome but I often send back or pass coins on if people need for first deposit on their burst wallet etc.

I was mainly thinking about that you would get help and that it could speed up the process; it could enrich the content (groups tend to think about more than one man working alone) and work as a quality check by getting responses on your work. And, regarding money, I hope you saw that I wrote "considerable higher than 5K". We have several times donated more than 100K to members for their work, even if such a high amount would require an extraordinary end-product.

If you still want to keep it private, please consider creating a google doc and inviting some trusted members. We in the PR Team would be happy to help out. Smiley

 

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January 30, 2015, 05:13:38 AM
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Speaking of java problems, it seems as though the wallet has a memory leak... I've had one open over a week and it's slowly creeping up on memory usage. It's at about 2GB right now, which is starting to interfere with mining (I mine with 8GB of memory).
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January 30, 2015, 05:15:48 AM
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"A non-Java port"? We were discussing guides, but we are planning for a complete GUI for both plotting and mining.

That's one option in a crowd-fund case in AT, to get together and collect the the means to pay a dev to do that. But no one seems interested in discussing the next AT case, which I posted about. Until we get a GUI, I find guides important to reduce mining problems Smiley


i think this would be a great crowd-fund case for at and also usefull to bring the coin to a wider range of people that to not have so much expierience with computers. i would be one of the crowd-funders :-)
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January 30, 2015, 05:41:17 AM
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After Irontiga's great work, you can now join BURST's Newsletter at burstcoin.info!

For more info, see http://is.gd/a73Nnt

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January 30, 2015, 05:44:57 AM
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Great! Thanks for the Info.
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January 30, 2015, 06:16:05 AM
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Can I use my atom cpu + 2GB to mine some plotted TB SATA hdds?

Thanks

Don't see why not, atom is a pretty regular x86 cpu, should work with all the miners without tweaks.

You probably will need some optimizations to your setup to achieve decent read times, depending on total size of your plots.
Additionally with 2gb of ram I think it would be more prudent to set it all up on linux

Thanks, I was worried if cpu speed if somehow a big factor in hash speed and I guess the same with ram?

Just planning to use my windows home server for burst mining.


I cannot commit in advance to saying you won't run into issues. However, I encourage you to try in setting it up. Should you run into any snags, that's what this forum and burstforum.com are for Smiley

So far it's running just fine for a day now.

I run through plot_optimizer_1.6-j6jq... does it really help speed up hashing when optimizing plot?

Thanks again.

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So far it's running just fine for a day now.

I run through plot_optimizer_1.6-j6jq... does it really help speed up hashing when optimizing plot?

Thanks again.

Optimizing your plots will decrease the amount of time it takes to scan through all of them and potentially find a block before someone else.

An example:
It takes your computer 3 minutes to check all of the unoptimized plot files and you will have a deadline of 1 minute after 2.5 minutes of scanning.  Someone else may have a deadline of 2 minutes after 1.5 minutes of scanning.  The other person will get the block reward despite having a worse deadline because your deadline will never have a chance to submit.  You also won't know you missed a block because it will start scanning for the next block.  An optimized plot may find the deadline of 1 minute after 45 seconds of scanning and you would receive the block reward.  (Made the numbers up, but you get the idea)

To answer your question, it will speed up hashing in a matter of speaking, but in terms of hashrate as you think of BTC, then no, your overall "hashrate," or chance of finding a block, will not increase.  In the example above, you would eventually find the block either way assuming no one beats you to it, but an optimized plot would find it faster.

I also updated the plot optimizer with a GUI in the Burst forum:
https://burstforum.com/index.php?threads/plot-optimizer-gui-1-0-6.589/

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January 30, 2015, 08:24:17 AM
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So far it's running just fine for a day now.

I run through plot_optimizer_1.6-j6jq... does it really help speed up hashing when optimizing plot?

Thanks again.

Optimizing your plots will decrease the amount of time it takes to scan through all of them and potentially find a block before someone else.

An example:
It takes your computer 3 minutes to check all of the unoptimized plot files and you will have a deadline of 1 minute after 2.5 minutes of scanning.  Someone else may have a deadline of 2 minutes after 1.5 minutes of scanning.  The other person will get the block reward despite having a worse deadline because your deadline will never have a chance to submit.  You also won't know you missed a block because it will start scanning for the next block.  An optimized plot may find the deadline of 1 minute after 45 seconds of scanning and you would receive the block reward.  (Made the numbers up, but you get the idea)

To answer your question, it will speed up hashing in a matter of speaking, but in terms of hashrate as you think of BTC, then no, your overall "hashrate," or chance of finding a block, will not increase.  In the example above, you would eventually find the block either way assuming no one beats you to it, but an optimized plot would find it faster.

I also updated the plot optimizer with a GUI in the Burst forum:
https://burstforum.com/index.php?threads/plot-optimizer-gui-1-0-6.589/

I have heard of someone with 10x faster reading with optimized high stagger plots vs. low stagger plots. I would defo recommend optimizing!!!

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January 30, 2015, 08:55:52 AM
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do you guys know why versions of balgo miner for windows donot work proprietly in my computer i got only version from deceber working i need a better version if possible do contact me for issues if possible here

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...

So far it's running just fine for a day now.

I run through plot_optimizer_1.6-j6jq... does it really help speed up hashing when optimizing plot?

Thanks again.

Optimizing your plots will decrease the amount of time it takes to scan through all of them and potentially find a block before someone else.

An example:
It takes your computer 3 minutes to check all of the unoptimized plot files and you will have a deadline of 1 minute after 2.5 minutes of scanning.  Someone else may have a deadline of 2 minutes after 1.5 minutes of scanning.  The other person will get the block reward despite having a worse deadline because your deadline will never have a chance to submit.  You also won't know you missed a block because it will start scanning for the next block.  An optimized plot may find the deadline of 1 minute after 45 seconds of scanning and you would receive the block reward.  (Made the numbers up, but you get the idea)

To answer your question, it will speed up hashing in a matter of speaking, but in terms of hashrate as you think of BTC, then no, your overall "hashrate," or chance of finding a block, will not increase.  In the example above, you would eventually find the block either way assuming no one beats you to it, but an optimized plot would find it faster.

I also updated the plot optimizer with a GUI in the Burst forum:
https://burstforum.com/index.php?threads/plot-optimizer-gui-1-0-6.589/

I have heard of someone with 10x faster reading with optimized high stagger plots vs. low stagger plots. I would defo recommend optimizing!!!

Can i optimize plots under windows? Any tools? Plots with higher stagger size needs more RAM while mining?
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January 30, 2015, 09:34:02 AM
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do you guys know why versions of balgo miner for windows donot work proprietly in my computer i got only version from deceber working i need a better version if possible do contact me for issues if possible here

What exactly is not working? PM to me screenshots and miner's version

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January 30, 2015, 10:02:48 AM
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...

So far it's running just fine for a day now.

I run through plot_optimizer_1.6-j6jq... does it really help speed up hashing when optimizing plot?

Thanks again.

Optimizing your plots will decrease the amount of time it takes to scan through all of them and potentially find a block before someone else.

An example:
It takes your computer 3 minutes to check all of the unoptimized plot files and you will have a deadline of 1 minute after 2.5 minutes of scanning.  Someone else may have a deadline of 2 minutes after 1.5 minutes of scanning.  The other person will get the block reward despite having a worse deadline because your deadline will never have a chance to submit.  You also won't know you missed a block because it will start scanning for the next block.  An optimized plot may find the deadline of 1 minute after 45 seconds of scanning and you would receive the block reward.  (Made the numbers up, but you get the idea)

To answer your question, it will speed up hashing in a matter of speaking, but in terms of hashrate as you think of BTC, then no, your overall "hashrate," or chance of finding a block, will not increase.  In the example above, you would eventually find the block either way assuming no one beats you to it, but an optimized plot would find it faster.

I also updated the plot optimizer with a GUI in the Burst forum:
https://burstforum.com/index.php?threads/plot-optimizer-gui-1-0-6.589/

I have heard of someone with 10x faster reading with optimized high stagger plots vs. low stagger plots. I would defo recommend optimizing!!!

Can i optimize plots under windows? Any tools? Plots with higher stagger size needs more RAM while mining?

The jar vince linked in the post you quoted works under windows. If you do not want to use the gui you can download the commandline optimizer here https://burstforum.com/index.php?threads/plot-optimizer-v1-6-j6jq.268/

For me ram usage did not change significantly, readtimes improved a lot

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January 30, 2015, 11:30:03 AM
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do you guys know why versions of balgo miner for windows donot work proprietly in my computer i got only version from deceber working i need a better version if possible do contact me for issues if possible here

What exactly is not working? PM to me screenshots and miner's version

Not sure about him, but I'm still running into the "Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library - R6010 Abort() has been called". Just had it happen again today.
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January 30, 2015, 11:37:47 AM
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The wallet software (in browser) is pretty much all people need. They don't need to run the blockchain part of the wallet software.
The client JS can be downloaded from anywhere, verified by hash and then connect to any public wallet node?

I haven't looked but some form of 3rd-party javascript hash service would help so people know the JS client they're using is legit.

Plotting/mining wouldn't work via the browser though as far as I can see, which is a shame because it should nicely fit under the Forging section otherwise Sad
Is the Java miner really that bad? Could people enable Java in their browser and have a browser-sandboxed-Java app do mining and plotting?
Then people wouldn't have to install anything (well, except JRE)

Just some ideas...

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BurstDev has a private key, yes? So they sign the files sent to the browser with their key. These signatures are made public (or in the blockchain!) so files sent to the browser can be verified.
Of course, the verification code (probably JS) would also need to be trusted...
Do you think this idea has mileage? I can throw together a verification JS loader...
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January 30, 2015, 12:11:17 PM
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Hi!
I checked the topic and didn't see online wallet, like in NXT for example https://wallet.mynxt.info/   https://nxtblocks.info/#wallet
Or just like this one  https://nxtx.ru:7876/    (public servers)
It is not present? Planned to create it ?

Thank you.
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Hi!
I checked the topic and didn't see online wallet, like in NXT for example https://wallet.mynxt.info/   https://nxtblocks.info/#wallet
Or just like this one  https://nxtx.ru:7876/    (public servers)
It is not present? Planned to create it ?

Thank you.

Currently (at least to my knowledge) the only working online wallet is not up to date.

However there are two under development.

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Hi!
I checked the topic and didn't see online wallet, like in NXT for example https://wallet.mynxt.info/   https://nxtblocks.info/#wallet
Or just like this one  https://nxtx.ru:7876/    (public servers)
It is not present? Planned to create it ?

Thank you.

Public servers would be fine if there was a way to verify the HTML/CSS/JS/etc. you were using.
People could make a decision based on the trust/reputation of the host but that's more of a judgement call.
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January 30, 2015, 01:41:24 PM
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do you guys know why versions of balgo miner for windows donot work proprietly in my computer i got only version from deceber working i need a better version if possible do contact me for issues if possible here

What exactly is not working? PM to me screenshots and miner's version

Not sure about him, but I'm still running into the "Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library - R6010 Abort() has been called". Just had it happen again today.

May I know what is your OS version, 32 bits or 64 bits?



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