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January 17, 2015, 01:51:39 AM
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are there plans for burst devs to make block times shorter?  

edit:  i like what i'm seeing in POC and people will be convinced if block times are only a couple of seconds long. i was wondering if this is possible in POC going forward.

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January 17, 2015, 02:19:21 AM
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are there plans for burst devs to make block times shorter?  

edit:  i like what i'm seeing in POC and people will be convinced if block times are only a couple of seconds long. i was wondering if this is possible in POC going forward.

i am actually thinking about instant confirmation regardless of block time. Is that possible ? Burst should lead other coin in terms of innovation. Cutting down block time doesn't seems exciting at all.
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January 17, 2015, 02:28:33 AM
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are there plans for burst devs to make block times shorter?  

edit:  i like what i'm seeing in POC and people will be convinced if block times are only a couple of seconds long. i was wondering if this is possible in POC going forward.

i am actually thinking about instant confirmation regardless of block time. Is that possible ? Burst should lead other coin in terms of innovation. Cutting down block time doesn't seems exciting at all.

imo, with POC, this project and its devs are on to something here.  but what would really help is making transaction times faster, yes. but without sacrificing any risk in security. i was wondering if it was possible moving forward.

also, i noticed other projects seem to add more 'features', when what they should be really doing is go back to something basic like make transactions faster.  people seem to underestimate the power of speed of transactions in crypto.

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January 17, 2015, 02:51:09 AM
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are there plans for burst devs to make block times shorter?  

edit:  i like what i'm seeing in POC and people will be convinced if block times are only a couple of seconds long. i was wondering if this is possible in POC going forward.

i am actually thinking about instant confirmation regardless of block time. Is that possible ? Burst should lead other coin in terms of innovation. Cutting down block time doesn't seems exciting at all.

imo, with POC, this project and its devs are on to something here.  but what would really help is making transaction times faster, yes. but without sacrificing any risk in security. i was wondering if it was possible moving forward.

also, i noticed other projects seem to add more 'features', when what they should be really doing is go back to something basic like make transactions faster.  people seem to underestimate the power of speed of transactions in crypto.

it would be fine, because right now, there was 2x24min blocks

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January 17, 2015, 04:36:21 AM
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Who can share last block database for burst wallet?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5q5r28wk7lscgwl/burst_db.7z?dl=0
265.5 Mb

https://burstforum.com/index.php?threads/block-chain-torrent-download.568/  by Merick

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January 17, 2015, 04:46:07 AM
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Hi Blago,
when I see you here, I'd like to ask you if it is possible to set some priority on your miner in W7.
I just tried set priority in task manager, but it didn't help much.
When reading plots its  taking just 12% CPU, so 3,3TB takes 39seconds.
I'd like to add more HDDs but, it will take too long then.
In Ubuntu (dcct miner) when I set priority it's taking whole CPU and then it release.
W7 8GB RAM.

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January 17, 2015, 04:52:16 AM
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Torrent Magnet Link for Block Chain 1/16/2015

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:UIHURO4LBQU3GKQXGE6V7Y6HF5PPBWIV&dn=BURST-chain-1-16-2015.zip&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.publicbt.com%3a80&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.istole.it%3a80&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.publicbt.com%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.istole.it%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopen.demonii.com%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fexodus.desync.com%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3a6969%2fannounce]magnet:?xt=urn:btih:UIHURO4LBQU3GKQXGE6V7Y6HF5PPBWIV&dn=BURST-chain-1-16-2015.zip&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.publicbt.com%3a80&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.istole.it%3a80&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.publicbt.com%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.istole.it%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopen.demonii.com%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fexodus.desync.com%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3a6969%2fannounce


Thought I would try a torrent method.

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Thanks Blago, I did not see your post when I made mine.

I wish I could make that magnet link clickable like a normal link, but the url code seems to break the magnet. So right now you have to copy past that link into your Torrent client.
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January 17, 2015, 05:06:53 AM
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Hi Blago,
when I see you here, I'd like to ask you if it is possible to set some priority on your miner in W7.
I just tried set priority in task manager, but it didn't help much.
When reading plots its  taking just 12% CPU, so 3,3TB takes 39seconds.
I'd like to add more HDDs but, it will take too long then.
In Ubuntu (dcct miner) when I set priority it's taking whole CPU and then it release.
W7 8GB RAM.

Did you merge the plots?
And defrag HDD.

My i5, 8Gb (~95% load)




My AMD FX-6300, 16Gb (~90% load)



see speed tests for random (not merged plots) and sequential (merged plots) transfer  http://www.storagereview.com/seagate_barracuda_3tb_review_1tb_platters_st3000dm001
(in your case it's 86 Mb/s)

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January 17, 2015, 06:53:48 AM
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It seems as though deadlines are kinda turning into a thing, considering the amount of hardware you need in order to hit it (16GB of memory, i5) with large capacities, is anyone working on a GPU assisted miner? Onboard graphics cards could help with the computational side of things. I'm starting to think my low end new processors I had in my mining rigs wont be able to handle this.
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January 17, 2015, 06:57:31 AM
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considering the amount of hardware you need in order to hit it (16GB of memory, i5) with large capacities

Isn't that good ?
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January 17, 2015, 07:22:37 AM
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Most computers come with a iGPU, I'm sure it could be used to augment the CPU for the mining phase. Only requirement should be storage, not high end CPUs and lots of memory.
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January 17, 2015, 07:59:35 AM
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Most computers come with a iGPU, I'm sure it could be used to augment the CPU for the mining phase. Only requirement should be storage, not high end CPUs and lots of memory.

Afiak it is only win 7 which require lots of ram; I've now more than 1 month uptime on two win 7 boxes with 30tb and 20tb, respectively, with 16gb i ram. CPUs are an I3 and an I5 (not OC). So with some tweaking it's possible to get stability even with win 7. For tweaking tips, see https://burstforum.com. Especially a program call EmptyStandbyList is important.

For lowering reading times, it's vital to use huge or optimized staggers. Most often large staggers require a lot of ram, but there two ways around this: either you use cryo's gpuplotter and mode "direct", utilizing little ram, or you create a plot with a low stagger where you in the next stage use tool for optimizing the, see https://burstforum.com for both programs.

With huge or optimized staggers the CPU will process the plots much faster. For awhile I used an old duo core CPU without problem.

The above concern only win 7. All other OS preform much better; eg, on one of my linux boxes i have +30tb running for month with 3gb in ram.

So, when you say "Only requirement should be storage, not high end CPUs and lots of memory" it's simply wrong.

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January 17, 2015, 10:03:10 AM
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I'm simply saying they could lower the processor requirements by utilizing iGPUs everyone has (if someone is skilled with writing in OCL). I'm not sure if anything is parallizeable in the miner, I assume there is. If the memory problems are only in W7, all the better because there is already a solution. However, processing large plots still requires a decently beefy CPU.

There is not much to hate as a miner. Lower requirements for mining are better, aren't they?
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Another competition will be held on on our Twitter account in a few days, most likely with bigger prices. So if your not following us on Twitter, it's time to do so  Wink


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January 17, 2015, 10:33:52 AM
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I'm simply saying they could lower the processor requirements by utilizing iGPUs everyone has (if someone is skilled with writing in OCL). I'm not sure if anything is parallizeable in the miner, I assume there is. If the memory problems are only in W7, all the better because there is already a solution. However, processing large plots still requires a decently beefy CPU.

There is not much to hate as a miner. Lower requirements for mining are better, aren't they?

I simply tried to explan that neither having a beefy CPU nor lots of ram is requried. It's Win 7's memory handling that is the problem. If I'm able to mine with 100tb on regular desktop machines, even with the tricky Win 7, I really can't see the problem.

What's your setup and how many tb do you have?

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January 17, 2015, 11:57:39 AM
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8pool is alive and need miners.
I have planned bounty for old and new miners!
miners thanks for support and suggestion!

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A little competition from the Community PR Team with 25,000 BURST up for grabs.

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* as this is not a giveaway but a competition, 1) do not post the answer to the question below, 2) do not post your address in this thread or 3) anything else in this thread related to the competition (See giveaways rules). This is a competition and nothing else.
* to compete, email 1) your BURST address, 2) your name on bitcointalk and 3) your answer to the question. The email address is  burst@countermail.com.
* cope/paste the exact text from the email and PM them to me here at bitcointalk. If you do not both email and PM your answer will be out of competition.
* it's the time when we receive the email to burst@countermail.com that is your competing time, but the follow up PM must not be sent no longer than 10 minutes after the email.
* The winners will be announced after the correct answers have been received.


Prices in BURST
1) The first one who email the correct answer, a valid BURST address and your name on bitcointalk, and PM me the same details, will receive 15,000 BURST.
2) The second who does the same will receive 5,000 BURST.
3) The third who does the same will receive 2,500 BURST.
4) The fourth who does the same will receive 1,500 BURST.
5) The fifth who does the same will receive 1,000 BURST.


Please respect the giveaway rules and do not post questions about the competition in this thread; if you have questions make sure to email them. If you do not respect this, you are not allowed to compete!



Question to be answered:
---- What's the Swedish word for "Burst"?



Another competition will be held on on our Twitter account in a few days, most likely with bigger prices. So if your not following us on Twitter, it's time to do so  Wink


***Edit: so far the answers emailed has been wrong, so all prizes are still up for grabs Smiley
For those answering so far, I have replied to you.



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January 17, 2015, 02:07:30 PM
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Torrent Magnet Link for Block Chain 1/16/2015

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January 17, 2015, 03:52:36 PM
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I'm simply saying they could lower the processor requirements by utilizing iGPUs everyone has (if someone is skilled with writing in OCL). I'm not sure if anything is parallizeable in the miner, I assume there is. If the memory problems are only in W7, all the better because there is already a solution. However, processing large plots still requires a decently beefy CPU.

There is not much to hate as a miner. Lower requirements for mining are better, aren't they?

I simply tried to explan that neither having a beefy CPU nor lots of ram is requried. It's Win 7's memory handling that is the problem. If I'm able to mine with 100tb on regular desktop machines, even with the tricky Win 7, I really can't see the problem.

What's your setup and how many tb do you have?

A i5 is a pretty beefy CPU. It's not a server CPU, but it's pretty high end and they go for around $200. We're talking people with $50 CPUs here. A i3 is also not a high end CPU, but it's not a bargain bin CPU either, those start around $130. People who are using old systems or new low end systems are the ones I'm talking about, not people with i3s and i5s. So celerons and APUs.
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