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July 22, 2015, 04:33:03 AM
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Ahh, im very sorry for thinking you made that up, i did not realize this. There may be some slim chance of reimbursement in this case if people were making useless bets without the ability to cash out, however i think it is going to be very difficult considering you gave the address away in the first place and it is still your responsibility to keep your account protected. I don't know what to say, at the same time though your case is completely separate to mine and i hope they address us accordingly.

they need fix my problem and your problem too...my fault put the account...but have password for withdrwal..soo the people use my account no have chance withdrwal...and bet for bet...no for nothing more...the 62 lost no problem...but this i deserve this again in my new account

Technically, the reason for posting the screenshot is the fault of SatoshiDice, you see? Grin No bug -> No screenshot -> No bet.
Well, there is negligence on the part of the player, if this is confirmed (but why did it take 50 minutes for the round to end Huh) there is no solid obligation, though a reputed site may consider a refund full or in part.

Never take full screenshots. Check before posting it anywhere.

I'd say the hacker (assuming that to be true) tried to withdraw the funds but couldn't, so he made a bet thinking that if he win, he can get you to reward him a part of the win?? lol.

Investors got real lucky. Sad

Come on, SatoshiDice, these are the players who trusted you... can't you compensate them in part or something in the least?
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July 22, 2015, 01:22:00 PM
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1) tried to withdraw 36
2) could not due to hot wallet so tried to withdraw 31 which caused an error and dropped my available funds to withdraw by 31 (31.17 exactly)
3) Considering the fact that i was still aloud to withdraw any amount higher then 31.17 because this is where my balance seemed to be 'zeroed' out, and the fact i was panicking as i had felt i had lost these coins due to your site's bug YOUR ERROR not mine, this then tempted me to continue my bets in the only hopes to get some coins back.


This should be top priority. That's a serious amount of money to just disappear.  Basically you withdrew and the site let you withdraw and zero'd your balance without sending any coins. This is truly a messed up situation.
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July 22, 2015, 02:31:39 PM
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so some people thought they were scammed and gambled it away. seems like a very dishonest error. needed more communication with ur players
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July 22, 2015, 03:02:35 PM
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Losing and betting because of you think they scammed you does not make sense of you want to reimbursed.

If you had gambled and won because you had thought they scammed, would you have return the winnings?

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July 22, 2015, 03:12:48 PM
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Losing and betting because of you think they scammed you does not make sense of you want to reimbursed.

If you had gambled and won because you had thought they scammed, would you have return the winnings?

I know that is a fair point, but i deposited 20 bitcoins and after the win, i was only able to cash out around 5 because the 31 withdrawal caused an error. That money should have been broadcast in the first place. It wasn't just the fact that i wanted to walk away with my 36 winnings, i was scared i was going to lose 15 from my initial deposit. I think at the very least i should be compensated so i walk away from this even, instead they have profited well from having a bug in their site, you don't think that is kind of wrong?

The fact it was telling me my balance in the withdrawal screen was 0 caused me to panic and the only way i could get any money back was to withdraw anything higher then the 'zeroed' out balance. So say i got my balance up to 32, it would let me cash out 1btc max. So exactly because of this error that was being displayed i felt pressure to continue gambling to regain as much of it as possible above that zeroes balance, that and the fact that everyone seems to always complain about satoshidice's lack of communication got me extremely worried i was never going to see those coins again and by continuing to gamble i was at least able to walk away with around 13btc from my deposit of 20, so this seemed like a better option at the time. I have emails from 2 weeks ago asking when their hot wallet would be filled that also never got a response, so that didnt exactly instil any confidence in me in the situation either.

Obviously in hindsight i realize i should have just waited, but it wasn't like it was just a simple hot wallet issue telling me to wait for funds to be available, it was telling me i had 0 to withdraw, thats enough to cause anyone to panic with that amount of bitcoin and i do feel like there needs to be some reimbursement due to a fault on their part.
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July 22, 2015, 03:49:23 PM
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Also this whole argument of. "If you had have gambled and won, would you give it back" has no ground at all, as i only kept gambling in this instance due to THEIR error.

If i had have continued gambling and won because of their withdrawal error, that error is still their fault and their loss. Instead, i lost due to to their error and they have won. Either scenario they are still at fault from a glitch in their systems. Even if i had of won as well, i still wouldn't have been able to cash out at the time would i because whatever balance i could get it to was still going to be  'x - 31'.
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July 23, 2015, 01:29:12 PM
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Also this whole argument of. "If you had have gambled and won, would you give it back" has no ground at all, as i only kept gambling in this instance due to THEIR error.

If i had have continued gambling and won because of their withdrawal error, that error is still their fault and their loss. Instead, i lost due to to their error and they have won. Either scenario they are still at fault from a glitch in their systems. Even if i had of won as well, i still wouldn't have been able to cash out at the time would i because whatever balance i could get it to was still going to be  'x - 31'.

Why are they not addressing your concerns for days?

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July 23, 2015, 01:37:59 PM
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Has anyone managed to withdraw successfully from this site?
This site does not seem to have any support at all.

                                                                       
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July 23, 2015, 01:48:37 PM
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Has anyone managed to withdraw successfully from this site?
This site does not seem to have any support at all.

The lack of support alone is a big part of why i am asking for reimbursement, the whole reason i continued gambling again after not being able to cash out was because of this very reason due to people saying the support was terrible and there's a chance i wouldn't get a solution for months before being able to cash out. No response to emails as of yet, no response from pm's even though SatoshiDice has been active on the forum after the pm's were sent. It's terrible, if it was a more reputable site and the support was more active i would have waited instead of risking losing them all in attempt to get some back.

I'm owed some sort of reimbursement, this is just ridiculous.
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July 23, 2015, 02:16:20 PM
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Also this whole argument of. "If you had have gambled and won, would you give it back" has no ground at all, as i only kept gambling in this instance due to THEIR error.

If i had have continued gambling and won because of their withdrawal error, that error is still their fault and their loss. Instead, i lost due to to their error and they have won. Either scenario they are still at fault from a glitch in their systems. Even if i had of won as well, i still wouldn't have been able to cash out at the time would i because whatever balance i could get it to was still going to be  'x - 31'.

Why are they not addressing your concerns for days?

They didn't even address me directly when they were last active, they completely ignored the fact of the withdrawal error, corrected the negative balance and then addressed everyone in a general "Sorry but for the players who did not wait for the hot wallet to be filled and continued to gamble and lose, we are not responsible" However, my issue was nothing to do with the hot wallet and was a unique withdrawal error and they are ignoring me on purpose because they don't want to admit the fault because by admitting this error they are admitting they are fault for me losing my money, obviously they are trying to avoid this. Not happy
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July 23, 2015, 02:50:12 PM
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Also this whole argument of. "If you had have gambled and won, would you give it back" has no ground at all, as i only kept gambling in this instance due to THEIR error.

If i had have continued gambling and won because of their withdrawal error, that error is still their fault and their loss. Instead, i lost due to to their error and they have won. Either scenario they are still at fault from a glitch in their systems. Even if i had of won as well, i still wouldn't have been able to cash out at the time would i because whatever balance i could get it to was still going to be  'x - 31'.

Why are they not addressing your concerns for days?

They didn't even address me directly when they were last active, they completely ignored the fact of the withdrawal error, corrected the negative balance and then addressed everyone in a general "Sorry but for the players who did not wait for the hot wallet to be filled and continued to gamble and lose, we are not responsible" However, my issue was nothing to do with the hot wallet and was a unique withdrawal error and they are ignoring me on purpose because they don't want to admit the fault because by admitting this error they are admitting they are fault for me losing my money, obviously they are trying to avoid this. Not happy

Yes I understand. They are ignoring your request, prefer to sit it out and this way defrauding you!

They are not the same SD since Erik was running it.

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July 23, 2015, 04:20:22 PM
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Bitdice.me is much better then satoshidice. They have just 1% egde and satoshidice has 1.9%

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July 23, 2015, 04:22:51 PM
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Bitdice.me is much better then satoshidice

Yeah the edge is .9% lower there i think Tongue
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Of course Erik still runs it. He just bought it back from the investors, who else you think had that money and would buy it? Or never wondered why they continued to use the exact same addresses? But yeah recently he has neglected it while focusing on shapeshift.

Besides just all of this assumptions (?) is there any fact to support what you claimed? ( seems more of an assumptions to me ). There is no point to hide it if Erik purchased it back which I believe it wont be happening since he is so focus on shapeshift. Besides the support service is pretty much neglected ever since it was purchased which indicates whoever owns SatoshiDice currently isnt Erik anymore ( no way Erik going to neglect his support service )



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July 23, 2015, 04:29:38 PM
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Of course Erik still runs it. He just bought it back from the investors, who else you think had that money and would buy it? Or never wondered why they continued to use the exact same addresses? But yeah recently he has neglected it while focusing on shapeshift.

Besides just all of this assumptions (?) is there any fact to support what you claimed? ( seems more of an assumptions to me ). There is no point to hide it if Erik purchased it back which I believe it wont be happening since he is so focus on shapeshift. Besides the support service is pretty much neglected ever since it was purchased which indicates whoever owns SatoshiDice currently isnt Erik anymore ( no way Erik going to neglect his support service )

And you not make assumptions ?

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July 23, 2015, 04:40:02 PM
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Of course Erik still runs it. He just bought it back from the investors, who else you think had that money and would buy it? Or never wondered why they continued to use the exact same addresses? But yeah recently he has neglected it while focusing on shapeshift.

Besides just all of this assumptions (?) is there any fact to support what you claimed? ( seems more of an assumptions to me ). There is no point to hide it if Erik purchased it back which I believe it wont be happening since he is so focus on shapeshift. Besides the support service is pretty much neglected ever since it was purchased which indicates whoever owns SatoshiDice currently isnt Erik anymore ( no way Erik going to neglect his support service )

And you not make assumptions ?

Yes I am, which is based on something that is a fact. Support service was never bad when Erik was still running this site and ever since it has been purchased , the support service quality has been declining ever since . No sane person will be buying back the site that he sold just to neglect the site back

On the other hands his assumptions based on why they use the same exact address . When you buy something, you get everything in package including the address imo. Everything is purely speculation however I made a more valid point



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July 23, 2015, 05:50:51 PM
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They are not the same SD since Erik was running it.

Of course Erik still runs it. He just bought it back from the investors, who else you think had that money and would buy it? Or never wondered why they continued to use the exact same addresses? But yeah recently he has neglected it while focusing on shapeshift.

Nonsense!

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July 23, 2015, 05:52:54 PM
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Bitdice.me is much better then satoshidice. They have just 1% egde and satoshidice has 1.9%

So have dadice.com, primedice.com and a dozen others.

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July 23, 2015, 05:54:19 PM
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Of course Erik still runs it. He just bought it back from the investors, who else you think had that money and would buy it? Or never wondered why they continued to use the exact same addresses? But yeah recently he has neglected it while focusing on shapeshift.

Besides just all of this assumptions (?) is there any fact to support what you claimed? ( seems more of an assumptions to me ). There is no point to hide it if Erik purchased it back which I believe it wont be happening since he is so focus on shapeshift. Besides the support service is pretty much neglected ever since it was purchased which indicates whoever owns SatoshiDice currently isnt Erik anymore ( no way Erik going to neglect his support service )

And you not make assumptions ?

Yes I am, which is based on something that is a fact. Support service was never bad when Erik was still running this site and ever since it has been purchased , the support service quality has been declining ever since . No sane person will be buying back the site that he sold just to neglect the site back

On the other hands his assumptions based on why they use the same exact address . When you buy something, you get everything in package including the address imo. Everything is purely speculation however I made a more valid point

I can assure you all, SD is NOT run by Erik Voorhees anymore, but that is not the point of the current problem.

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July 23, 2015, 06:22:08 PM
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We can hear from their support next week..  Sad

I don't see the point of running the site if you don't value your players. Why don't you even respond to these requests properly? The players deserve a compensation. None of this was their fault. Now they are trying to get your attention by taking their time, and do you even bother?


Of course Erik still runs it. He just bought it back from the investors, who else you think had that money and would buy it? Or never wondered why they continued to use the exact same addresses? But yeah recently he has neglected it while focusing on shapeshift.

Besides just all of this assumptions (?) is there any fact to support what you claimed? ( seems more of an assumptions to me ). There is no point to hide it if Erik purchased it back which I believe it wont be happening since he is so focus on shapeshift. Besides the support service is pretty much neglected ever since it was purchased which indicates whoever owns SatoshiDice currently isnt Erik anymore ( no way Erik going to neglect his support service )

And you not make assumptions ?

Yes I am, which is based on something that is a fact. Support service was never bad when Erik was still running this site and ever since it has been purchased , the support service quality has been declining ever since . No sane person will be buying back the site that he sold just to neglect the site back

On the other hands his assumptions based on why they use the same exact address . When you buy something, you get everything in package including the address imo. Everything is purely speculation however I made a more valid point

I can assure you all, SD is NOT run by Erik Voorhees anymore, but that is not the point of the current problem.

I don't think SD is run by Erik now neither.
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