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November 15, 2014, 07:08:57 AM

I played the wheel and lost most of my win. Is the dice easy to win?

I love playing dice. But I always choose a good site to play on.

What makes a site "good" in your opinion?

Rate the following 8 features from most important to least important:

* design (safe-dice looks pretty)
* house edge (satoshidice has 1.9% house edge, most have 1%)
* speed (some sites have very fast betting)
* provable fairness (can they prove that the rolls are fair?)
* reputation (will the site let you withdraw if you win?)
* crowd-fundedness (can you invest in the bankroll?)
* community (is there chat? is it good?)
* novelty (do they offer anything different like range bets, jackpots, etc.?)


Here is what I look for in a gambling site:

1 - Reputation - if you cannot withdraw your winnings then there is no point in trying to win in the first place as you are all but certain to end up loosing

2 - Design/UI - This makes it more enjoyable for a player using the site. Although the face that Satoshi dice allows for people to play directly from their wallet does make playing a little more interesting as they can check on their bet on the blockchain.

3 - Provable fairness - this goes hand in hand with reputation, however if a site is reputable then it will likely be "fair" (even if not provably fair). It is also a moot point if a site is not reputable to care about provable fairness

4 - community - When I go to a "real" casino, I always enjoy gambling at a full table, especially when the other players are somewhat sociable.

5 - speed - A site should be able to process a bet quickly. However the ~10 minute delay does add a little bit of a level of anticipation that can make gambling fun

6 - house edge - most casinos have a ~3% edge, some higher at "specialized" tables, which people gladly play at for the added 'experience'. I don't think people will not use a specific site because of only a small difference in house edge.

7 - novelty - The jackpot feature have a very small chances of a user winning. It takes away a small percentage of the house edge (but as per above this is not important anyway)

8 - crow funding - if a user is gambling then they probably wont care if they are winning investors' money or the "sites" money   
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1 reputation (will the site let you withdraw if you win?)
2 provable fairness (can they prove that the rolls are fair?)
3 house edge (satoshidice has 1.9% house edge, most have 1%)
4 speed (some sites have very fast betting)
5 crowd-fundedness (can you invest in the bankroll?)
6 community (is there chat? is it good?)
7 novelty (do they offer anything different like range bets, jackpots, etc.?)
8 design (safe-dice looks pretty)

1 Knowing that the website I'm going to be putting my coins at has gained a good reputation over paying everyne exactly as promised is a big relief.

2 Provable fairness has become a must in bitcoin gambling. Knowing that a game doesn't have system to verify bets will stop most from playing it altogether.

3 Being able to bet against a smaller house edge is what in my opinion made dice websites popular, although for me a 0.9% more doesn't seem to makes that of a difference.

4 Being able to gamble without a significant delay between each bet is an great advantage bitcoin gambling can offer and websites should take advantage of this. I don't really like it when there's a delay between dice rolls.

5 After the recent events, I wouldn't really say that I like crown funded dice websites. Not only is a huge sum of money being handled by a handful of people, but the small house edge exposes investors more than it would expose owners of the website. In my opinion, seing an opperator being (financially) heavily invested in his own website shows comitment.

6 It's always nice to hang around and chat about various topics. But bitcoin attracts the interest of all kinds of people so someone's got to mainstain a positive spirit in the community as well. It's not always a pleasure to talk with people in gambling website chats so I'm leaving this sixth.

7 To me the low house edge while I still have the ability to play whenever you want, with (almost) whatever amount and with speedy dice rolls with the ability to set the odds on my own is more than I'd ever ask from a gambling website.

8 I don't need eye candy.

Also, instant withdrawals and a decent max win are fome features I care about.

But there's also a thing I'm always looking at although not many people seem to be taking it seriously. How the website pays out, I'd prefer a website paying withdrawn coins from random addresses rather than paying every withdrawal through the same hotwallet that could be marked as (x gambling site's wallet) in the blockchain.














 

 

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November 15, 2014, 09:35:41 AM

Also, instant withdrawals and a decent max win are fome features I care about.

How the website pays out

That's three things I missed from my quickly-assembled list. Thanks. Smiley

The last one is interesting. I don't know of any site that makes a concerted effort to protect players from attacks by companies like CoinBase who sometimes confiscate gambler funds.

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November 15, 2014, 02:07:50 PM

Also, instant withdrawals and a decent max win are fome features I care about.

How the website pays out

That's three things I missed from my quickly-assembled list. Thanks. Smiley

The last one is interesting. I don't know of any site that makes a concerted effort to protect players from attacks by companies like CoinBase who sometimes confiscate gambler funds.

CoinBase seizes accounts?
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November 15, 2014, 02:30:56 PM

CoinBase seizes accounts?

It's not like this is a thing they do to every account but depositing to gambling websites (or any business that is considered unlicensed/illegal according to US law) is against their ToS. That' the reason I left coinbase back in August, here's a post I made back then.

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November 15, 2014, 08:58:37 PM

the Mine game doesnt like me , i always loose whenever i play big , i know its just a bad luck Tongue

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November 16, 2014, 04:19:53 AM

We have listened to your feedback and we will reconstruct the affiliate program. (Thanks dooglus, espringe)

All accounts who referred players will be active affiliate accounts with negative carryover and real-time affiliate earnings. All affiliate accounts who has a positive affiliate balance will get their payments right away.

All future affiliate accounts will be approved-only, The manually approved accounts will have no negative carryover and real-time affiliate earnings.

Are you basically saying "we're going to come up with a new system and announce it later"?

Because if this is the announcement, I can't understand it at all. I think you're saying that the coins I lost by referring myself stay lost, but I'm not sure about that either. Smiley

We will start using a model where affiliates will always earn a small percentage of the house edge, even if the bet was won or lost. Assuming that most affiliates would prefer this, we could convert old affiliates so that they no longer get pay by revenue share.

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I think you're saying that the coins I lost by referring myself stay lost, but I'm not sure about that either. Smiley

Depending on what actually happened in your earlier rolls, you might actually get a reward from the winning bets too. but losing bets would give you a lamer reward that they did before.

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November 16, 2014, 04:41:28 AM

what happens if god starts to play a bitcoin game0  he can choose to win entirely by himself, being omnipotent and all that.

still havent gotten expected results from my gamiing with this site. but at least i am at a plus. when i withdraw a few times ,9

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i#m gonna wait here in the shadows of the giants and jump out to grap the 2000 post right in front of your eyes.

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Can you, please, reply to my PM?

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Can you, please, reply to my PM?

I'm not affiliated with SatoshiDice in any way, but can I reply unofficially on their behalf?

"Fuck you, and fuck your ineffective DDoS attacks. We're not paying you a single satoshi."

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November 16, 2014, 05:46:22 PM

the Mine game doesnt like me , i always loose whenever i play big , i know its just a bad luck Tongue

Why surprised? it will let you play a long time with a smaller bets and when you think you are going good, you raise your bet, computer says "fuck you" and you lose. Right?


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November 16, 2014, 06:48:19 PM

the Mine game doesnt like me , i always loose whenever i play big , i know its just a bad luck Tongue

Why surprised? it will let you play a long time with a smaller bets and when you think you are going good, you raise your bet, computer says "fuck you" and you lose. Right?

That's why provably fair gambling exists.














 

 

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November 17, 2014, 06:08:32 AM

There is something wrong when I want to set my bet by changing the "Roll Under to Win".

If I set the "Win Chance" to 93.079%, the "Roll Under to Win" will be calculated correctly to be 61000.
If I set the "Roll Under to Win" to 61000, the field will change to 0 automatically and my bet will fail with a warning "belowRollToWin Is Too Small".

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There is something wrong when I want to set my bet by changing the "Roll Under to Win".

If I set the "Win Chance" to 93.079%, the "Roll Under to Win" will be calculated correctly to be 61000.
If I set the "Roll Under to Win" to 61000, the field will change to 0 automatically and my bet will fail with a warning "belowRollToWin Is Too Small".

I see the same bug.

Also, my balance is -0.00010007 (negative). I only referred one player (myself) and he hasn't played since the referral system was changed to stop making immediate payouts. My negative balance was cleared by my winning a 1.25 BTC daily leaderboard prize - so why's it negative again now? I'm pretty sure that's the amount I was down before, but I already paid that debt from my win.

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