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December 04, 2012, 06:15:58 AM |
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S.DICE shareholders earned over 15% interest on an annualized basis from the month of November. Booyaa.
An idea has come to my mind. If I'm a shareholder and play SD then I can't lose, coz if I win I get winnings, if I lose I get dividends. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) The next big thing after pirate. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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December 04, 2012, 06:19:21 AM |
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S.DICE shareholders earned over 15% interest on an annualized basis from the month of November. Booyaa.
An idea has come to my mind. If I'm a shareholder and play SD then I can't lose, coz if I win I get winnings, if I lose I get dividends. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Betting as a form of hedging. MNW would roll in his bitcoin grave.
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December 07, 2012, 09:15:51 AM |
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Are you serious? Reported for breaking reddit rules over asking for upvotes.
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Come-from-Beyond
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December 07, 2012, 09:59:02 AM |
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Are you serious? Reported for breaking reddit rules over asking for upvotes.
C'mon, who reads the rules?
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December 08, 2012, 06:05:13 PM |
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The 0.01 as min bet is killing me so I had to quit, I used to play with small amounts in a gambling wallet looking for low lucky numbers. Now I have to stay above 12000 all the time, and there is no fun in that.
It will be great if you reconsider your decision, at least for number bellow 4000 for example
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December 09, 2012, 11:49:57 PM |
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The 0.01 as min bet is killing me so I had to quit, I used to play with small amounts in a gambling wallet looking for low lucky numbers. Now I have to stay above 12000 all the time, and there is no fun in that.
It will be great if you reconsider your decision, at least for number bellow 4000 for example
It would make sense to allow smaller min bets for the "long shot" bets.
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December 10, 2012, 12:38:12 AM |
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Seems the site is fubar or being bombed with 1 Satoshi bets
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December 10, 2012, 02:29:30 AM |
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Seems the site is fubar or being bombed with 1 Satoshi bets
Oh yes! I hadn't noticed. Looks like someone is sending many 1 satoshi bets. For example: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/35996634SatoshiDice pays a separate fee for each bet. The attacker only pays a single fee to attack all the SatoshiDice addresses in a single transaction.
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December 10, 2012, 02:55:51 AM |
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i made a bet about an hour ago right before all these "below minimum" bets started being placed. can anybody tell me if this is win or lose? df3335e1966d6f9aec4b2ac1937df29318c0a8eca3798f7b1606273a611da719
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December 10, 2012, 03:06:14 AM |
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I would support SatoshiDice just keeping the "Below Min" bets as donations. I don't have a problem at all with it. It would make this kind of attack expensive and obsolete.
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December 10, 2012, 03:13:21 AM |
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i made a bet about an hour ago right before all these "below minimum" bets started being placed. can anybody tell me if this is win or lose? df3335e1966d6f9aec4b2ac1937df29318c0a8eca3798f7b1606273a611da719
No. They didn't process the bet yet, probably because they're busy rejecting thousands of 1 satoshi bets.
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December 10, 2012, 04:36:23 AM |
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I played this game yesterday morning and lost 130 coins, you will make a site I need to urgently restore a lost ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 10, 2012, 08:03:14 AM |
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Satoshidice is being sabotaged by someone who lost 130 coins, OR a competitor.
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December 10, 2012, 08:24:01 AM |
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I have seen this attack as well. I was looking at results, and seeing 0.00000001 over and over again.
Bets under 0.0005 should return nothing, to prevent attacks. Bets under 0.0005 should just be accepted as donation gifts. Any bet above 0.0005 should have transaction subtracted from them. So if someone sends 0.0006 they get back 0.0001.
This would make much more sense.
Satoshidice should implement this.
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December 10, 2012, 10:29:19 AM |
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I played this game yesterday morning and lost 130 coins, you will make a site I need to urgently restore a lost ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) jesus
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December 10, 2012, 08:30:59 PM |
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I just tried running my daily satoshidice analysis script and it failed due to what looks like a bug at satoshidice. It seems satoshidice is ignoring some bets. For example, here's a transaction that bets 1 satoshi on all 27 satoshidice bets: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/35990938and here's the corresponding entry at satoshidice.com: http://www.satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=019db000be71e7b53a90df9f45f5b466cc387d65c737e7ab2cd27dac69c39014Notice that satoshidice only thinks there's 19 bets in that transaction. It misses 8 of them. Usually even when it's slow to pay out some of the bets in a transaction it at least lists them as 'unknown' or 'pending'. But in this case it doesn't even list the missing 8 bets. Here are screenshots in case things change later: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHTJRX.png&t=665&c=zWrWisD5LCVOFA) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FesiiM.png&t=665&c=E7jSzpD3LiRnNQ)
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December 10, 2012, 08:37:18 PM |
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I would support SatoshiDice just keeping the "Below Min" bets as donations. I don't have a problem at all with it. It would make this kind of attack expensive and obsolete.
This actually is a good idea.
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December 10, 2012, 08:48:19 PM |
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I would support SatoshiDice just keeping the "Below Min" bets as donations. I don't have a problem at all with it. It would make this kind of attack expensive and obsolete.
This actually is a good idea. It's a good idea so long as they give some notice. If I was running a bot that sent thousands of 0.001 bets when they suddenly and without notice changed the min bet to 0.01 last week I would be pretty pissed. I would suggest returning the bets as "under min" for a week or two whenever the min bet is increased, and only after then keeping those bets.
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