Why do islam hates people?

[gabmen]

Well on a very practical level most non Muslims simply have poor hygiene, due to not cleaning up well after going to toilet, not doing spiritual purification, sexual promiscuity... Muslims may have these issues also but not practicing Muslims who have sincere belief. Another reason Muslims prefer the company of other Muslims usually

Islam is a religion which originated in the Arabian desert, where there is a severe shortage of water. That is one of the reasons why Muslims use stones to wipe their asses after taking shit. But they should have changed this rule, at least for those Muslims who live outside the desert.

Meanwhile, Semaforo, a Muslim who is certain he is better than you, proudly announces that Muslims (who have sincere belief) have great hygiene.

Are new stones used for each new dump?

Their definition of hygiene differs from mine and yours. For example, they regard uncircumcised penis as extremely unhygienic. This is ridiculous. Have you ever heard about people getting disease because their foreskin remains attached to the penis?

Perhaps earlier they used this procedure because there was no possibility to wash properly and there were no hygiene products, now it is completely unnecessary.

yeah I don't there there's any difference now with how people do hygiene. I mean it's the 21st century and I don't think most practices that were done in the past are still being done today whatever religion people are in.

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[Spendulus]

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Their definition of hygiene differs from mine and yours. ...

I'm sure a medical definition would do fine.

[RamBahadur.Gurung]

Perhaps earlier they used this procedure because there was no possibility to wash properly and there were no hygiene products, now it is completely unnecessary.

In my opinion, circumcision must be banned across the globe, just like female genital mutilation (FGM). It is a horrible procedure, mostly performed on infant children. If an individual want to get himself circumcised, then he should wait until he reaches adulthood.

[GlassMaster]

Perhaps earlier they used this procedure because there was no possibility to wash properly and there were no hygiene products, now it is completely unnecessary.

In my opinion, circumcision must be banned across the globe, just like female genital mutilation (FGM). It is a horrible procedure, mostly performed on infant children. If an individual want to get himself circumcised, then he should wait until he reaches adulthood.

Yes, I am also for the prohibition of such a procedure. This in many cases maims young children and they can not protect themselves against such barbaric treatment.

[Malsetid]

Perhaps earlier they used this procedure because there was no possibility to wash properly and there were no hygiene products, now it is completely unnecessary.

In my opinion, circumcision must be banned across the globe, just like female genital mutilation (FGM). It is a horrible procedure, mostly performed on infant children. If an individual want to get himself circumcised, then he should wait until he reaches adulthood.

Yes, I am also for the prohibition of such a procedure. This in many cases maims young children and they can not protect themselves against such barbaric treatment.

I think there's a big difference between maiming your kids and keeping them hygienic. It's not really just for religious purposes but it is cleaner for male children to get circumcised.

[jonnybravo0411]

Perhaps earlier they used this procedure because there was no possibility to wash properly and there were no hygiene products, now it is completely unnecessary.

In my opinion, circumcision must be banned across the globe, just like female genital mutilation (FGM). It is a horrible procedure, mostly performed on infant children. If an individual want to get himself circumcised, then he should wait until he reaches adulthood.

Yes, I am also for the prohibition of such a procedure. This in many cases maims young children and they can not protect themselves against such barbaric treatment.

I think there's a big difference between maiming your kids and keeping them hygienic. It's not really just for religious purposes but it is cleaner for male children to get circumcised.

Muslim children are also very strongly influenced by religion, Vegera, even in that they are very much trying to look like adults or even imitate them to be proud of. Islam and Muslims are very complex people, but I believe that not all are as bad as they say in society.

[LeoEspansq]

Perhaps earlier they used this procedure because there was no possibility to wash properly and there were no hygiene products, now it is completely unnecessary.

In my opinion, circumcision must be banned across the globe, just like female genital mutilation (FGM). It is a horrible procedure, mostly performed on infant children. If an individual want to get himself circumcised, then he should wait until he reaches adulthood.

Yes, I am also for the prohibition of such a procedure. This in many cases maims young children and they can not protect themselves against such barbaric treatment.

I think there's a big difference between maiming your kids and keeping them hygienic. It's not really just for religious purposes but it is cleaner for male children to get circumcised.

Body hygiene and cutting off some parts are completely different concepts. Millions of people live and feel fine without this painful procedure.

[Spendulus]

.....Muslim children are also very strongly influenced by religion, Vegera, even in that they are very much trying to look like adults or even imitate them to be proud of. Islam and Muslims are very complex people, but I believe that not all are as bad as they say in society.

Complex people? All people are complex. Let's not cut the Muslim some slack based on some vague apology like that.

Muslims are trying to redefine "hygenic" based on some medievel concepts.  No different than they prattle on about the benefits of drinking camel urine, and yes, they do. That's also "hygenic" to the Muslim.

What does modern science say about the practice of drinking camel urine?

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Camel_Urine_and_Islam

Islam Q and A states that the benefits of camel urine have been well known to earlier generations of medical science and have been proven by modern scientific research. The problem with their assertion is most of the scientists who are promoting camel urine as a medical cure are Muslim. However the drinking of camel urine is part of an alternative medicine movement called urine therapy and the American Cancer Society’s position is that scientific evidence does not support individual claims that urine or urea given in any form is helpful for cancer patients and that the safety of urine therapy has not been confirmed by scientific studies.

Also camel urine was found to cause a significant cytotoxic effect in the bone marrow cells of mice,,,,,

In fact, the drinking of camel urine by Muslims is the likely origin of Middle East Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus (MERS) and WHO has advised against drinking it.

Conclusion
Muhammad prescribed camel urine as medicine to his followers from the tribe of Uraynah. Because Muslims believed Muhammad to be a prophet who received a divine revelation, they continue to prescribe camel urine as medicine despite the lack of evidence proving there is any medicinal value in camel urine and indications that drinking camel urine is actually harmful.

[Spendulus]

..... hygiene isn'the everything you know, good manners areally more important. Stones could be used I guess if there was no water. This is kind of personal but for example I used to think it was normal for women's vaginas to smell fishy... but it's not with proper hygiene.

Now do you really, really want to keep lecturing Westerners about "proper hygiene?" Because we're fixing to get into biochemistry here.

May I suggest a different topic?

Why don't you give us the devout Islamic point of view about the Islamic Caliphate taking over the entire world? Is that what you believe? Many Muslims do.

[VitorPl4y]

I don't think they do. They are just teached from their birth to respect only people who believe in their religion. This leads to discrimination against other people who believe in other gods.

[Sithara007]

I don't think they do. They are just teached from their birth to respect only people who believe in their religion. This leads to discrimination against other people who believe in other gods.

That sort of behavior is not unique to the Muslims. A lot of fanatical Christians have told me that if I don't believe in Jesus Christ, then I'd go to hell. They have also told me that the Hindu golds whom I worship are demons. For me, Islam and Christianity sounds like two sides of the same coin.

[semaforo]

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  Well on a very practical level most non Muslims simply have poor hygiene, due to not cleaning up well after going to toilet, not doing spiritual purification, sexual promiscuity... Muslims may have these issues also but not practicing Muslims who have sincere belief. Another reason Muslims prefer the company of other Muslims usually

Thank you for revealing your broad ignorance and ridiculous prejudices.

    Umm well really everyone is ignorant on certain experiences, I do have quite a bit of background since I spent most of my life as a non Muslim, then traveled to about a dozen or so countries with large native populations of Muslims, then studied Islam for about 7 years before adopting it myself... and now I have been practicong myself for 6 years. But again you say insulting and inflammatory things without actually examining the facts.

Anyone can read the bolded sections and decide for themselves who is insulting and inflammatory without actually examining the facts.

Frankly you sound to me as very naive, egotistical and agenda driven. Which is fine, except it isn't a way to increase understanding of matters.

    You are right actually, it is unfair to say non-Muslims, as Hindus also use water to clean after going to the toilet along with people of many other religions, just where I have lived most of my life in America and Europe it is common for non Muslims to only clean with toilet paper and walk around all day like this... I used to do this myself so I know how uncomfortable this is, occasionally I get stuck without water so I know how it feels. Honestly I don't know how y'all live like this...

  Also practicing Muslims will brush their teeth with a siwak, a tree root which is naturally anti bacterial, after every meal, whereas it is common for non-Muslims or less practicing Muslims to walk around all day with their teeth covered with food scum, or to brush the teeth with plastic covered with weird fluoridated concoctions mixed with artificial sweeteners that are probably carcinogenic. Non-Muslims also often go through the whole day without flushing their sinuses with water, and often let dogs lick them, dogs that like to roll in and eat long dead animals and feces... just, little things like these just could make some Muslims hesitant to be very close to non-Muslims.

   There are other deeper spiritual reasons but it is less likely that they would be well understood, but I'd be happy to get into what little I know of that if anyone is interested.

  Another practical reason is the sexual promiscuity, this can easily lead to higher and higher thresholds for sexual pleasure as people become more and more desensitized to sexual stimulation by excessive exposure, which actually leads to people needing to be literally "dirtier" so to speak in order to get off... it goes on and on.

[semaforo]

..... hygiene isn'the everything you know, good manners areally more important. Stones could be used I guess if there was no water. This is kind of personal but for example I used to think it was normal for women's vaginas to smell fishy... but it's not with proper hygiene.

Now do you really, really want to keep lecturing Westerners about "proper hygiene?" Because we're fixing to get into biochemistry here.

May I suggest a different topic?

Why don't you give us the devout Islamic point of view about the Islamic Caliphate taking over the entire world? Is that what you believe? Many Muslims do.

        http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1658361216000238

   I don't put a whole lot of stock in western medicine since falling into a model of for profit healthcare where treating symptoms and leaving underlying problems unresolved in order to ensure repeat business is a pretty big pitfall- not to mention that theories accepted into orthodoxy are often disproved every so often... for example, the idea that margarine or vegetable based shortening is healthier than animal fats was part of orthodoxy, and has now fallen out of favor. Anyway, suffice to say that something being a doctrine in western medicine is far from it being an immutable and established fact. There is, quite simply, a great deal that western empirical methods are unable to grasp as of yet. Camel urine would probably not be an ideal cure all, but rather is prescribed in specific situations. Urine is generally sterile anyway. I would be interested to learn more about this topic if you would like to discuss it.

   As for the caliphate, if you were to consider that the Quran is truly a revelation from the creator of the universe and a guidance for how best to live collectively as human beings on the earth, of course it would be preferable to have a unified political order on the earth based on these teachings. However, other prophecies tell us that this will not actually happen until the end times, and no one really knows when this will be, so by the time that occurs these concerns will probably have been eclipsed by many other events.

[Spendulus]

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   As for the caliphate, if you were to consider that the Quran is truly a revelation from the creator of the universe and a guidance for how best to live collectively as human beings on the earth, of course it would be preferable to have a unified political order on the earth based on these teachings. ....

Sorry, the bolded does not logically follow from the preceding premises. Of course the premises are ridiculous, but that's a separate point and you've qualified them by "if you were to consider..."

Generally speaking the Muslim countries show the most abject poverty, ignorance and corruption of those in this world, and it's quite clear why.

Your vilification of Westerners is quite interesting, and you show many characteristics of being indoctrinated with propaganda. It reminds me of the systematic policy the Germans had toward the Jews starting several years before World War II. Their propaganda machines continually made the Jews look like vile, smelly, despicable and unhealthy creatures. This was of course to drum up prejudice and to stereotype the "enemy" as evil. It was calculated and intentional. Similarly you depict the caricatured Westerner, don't you?

I find it a bit curious that you'd denigrate the stereotyped Westerner by asserting that he or she is "dirty" because they use toilet paper instead of washing their behinds like "practicing Muslims" do. The reason is that your own holy books tell your people to clean their behinds with five stones. So which is the "practicing Muslim" and which is "dirty?"

Can show some fatwa that clears this stink up?

[Spendulus]

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  Also practicing Muslims will brush their teeth with a siwak, a tree root which is naturally anti bacterial, after every meal, whereas it is common for non-Muslims or less practicing Muslims to walk around all day with their teeth covered with food scum, or to brush the teeth with plastic covered with weird fluoridated concoctions mixed with artificial sweeteners that are probably carcinogenic. Non-Muslims also often go through the whole day without flushing their sinuses with water, and often let dogs lick them, dogs that like to roll in and eat long dead animals and feces... just, little things like these just could make some Muslims hesitant to be very close to non-Muslims.
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Siwaks are tree roots which naturally have high flouride concentrations.

The obsession of practicing muslims with weird cultish ideas regulating every tiny part of their behavior is interesting. Of course it would be necessary to claim the siwak was "superior" since it dates from ancient times. But it is modern Western dentist practice, with a variety of practices and reasons, that has virtually eliminated tooth decay. That's across the modern industrialized world. It's not related to the presence or absence of flouride.

Muslim world dental health? Not so good, excepting where western practices have been incorporated. It's pretty clear that early indoctrination in non-objective thinking, and immersion in cultural brainwashing has negative consequences for the society at large. When your Muslim countries start producing numerous Nobel prize winning scientists let me know.

[af_newbie]

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  Also practicing Muslims will brush their teeth with a siwak, a tree root which is naturally anti bacterial, after every meal, whereas it is common for non-Muslims or less practicing Muslims to walk around all day with their teeth covered with food scum, or to brush the teeth with plastic covered with weird fluoridated concoctions mixed with artificial sweeteners that are probably carcinogenic. Non-Muslims also often go through the whole day without flushing their sinuses with water, and often let dogs lick them, dogs that like to roll in and eat long dead animals and feces... just, little things like these just could make some Muslims hesitant to be very close to non-Muslims.
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I work with Muslims and most of them stink like you would not believe it.

I think personal hygiene has nothing to do with the fantasy (aka religion) in person's brain.

It is more of a cultural thing.  You eat some smelly food, you sweat, you don't take shower EVERY day, you stink, no
matter what you believe.

End of story.

PS.  Why you hate dogs?  Dog is man's best friend.  What is wrong with you?

BTW, I am not a Muslim and I'll never be one, but I will try Miswak sticks to see if it works.

[Spendulus]

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PS.  Why you hate dogs?  Dog is man's best friend.  What is wrong with you?

BTW, I am not a Muslim and I'll never be one, but I will try Miswak sticks to see if it works.

Objective and logical thinking is considering issues without preconceived truth. Of course that means completely ignoring any issue a religious text claims is good or bad. This does not imply prejudice against claims in such ancient works. Rather it means no prejudice FOR OR AGAINST.

Semaforo errs in the following argument regarding science and medical practice...

theories accepted into orthodoxy are often disproved every so often... for example, the idea that margarine or vegetable based shortening is healthier than animal fats was part of orthodoxy, and has now fallen out of favor. Anyway, suffice to say that something being a doctrine in western medicine is far from it being an immutable and established fact.

Shifts in opinion in science and medicine are part and parcel of moving the state of the art forward, and thus are diametrically opposed to religious nonsense such as immutable truthies. However, the Miswak stick is just a stick, no more or less than a primitive toothbrush.

As you can see from the following history, it's not even an Islamic invention.  Rather the Islamic invention is incorporating the practice into religious cult rituals along with many other ways of regulating and controlling the minute aspects of daily life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toothbrush

Before the invention of the toothbrush a variety of oral hygiene measures had been used.[2] This has been verified by excavations in which chew sticks, tree twigs, bird feathers, animal bones and porcupine quills were recovered.

The predecessor of the toothbrush is the chew stick. Chew sticks were twigs with frayed ends used to brush the teeth[3] while the other end was used as a toothpick.[4] The earliest chew sticks were discovered in Sumer Mesopotamia in 3500 BC,[4] an Egyptian tomb dating from 3000 BC,[3] and mentioned in Chinese records dating from 1600 BC. The Greeks and Romans used toothpicks to clean their teeth and toothpick like twigs have been excavated in Qin Dynasty tombs.[4] Chew sticks remain common in Africa[5] the rural Southern United States[3] and in the Islamic world the use of chewing stick Miswak is considered a pious action and has been prescribed to be used before every prayer five times a day.[6] Miswaks have been used by Muslims since 7th century.

[Hublo]

I don't think they do. They are just teached from their birth to respect only people who believe in their religion. This leads to discrimination against other people who believe in other gods.

That sort of behavior is not unique to the Muslims. A lot of fanatical Christians have told me that if I don't believe in Jesus Christ, then I'd go to hell. They have also told me that the Hindu golds whom I worship are demons. For me, Islam and Christianity sounds like two sides of the same coin.

All fanatics are aggressive. There really is no difference to which religion they belong, but the behavior of Muslims is in itself more aggressively. It is connected not only with religion but also with the education they receive from childhood.

[oegarod]

I don't think they do. They are just teached from their birth to respect only people who believe in their religion. This leads to discrimination against other people who believe in other gods.

That sort of behavior is not unique to the Muslims. A lot of fanatical Christians have told me that if I don't believe in Jesus Christ, then I'd go to hell. They have also told me that the Hindu golds whom I worship are demons. For me, Islam and Christianity sounds like two sides of the same coin.

All fanatics are aggressive. There really is no difference to which religion they belong, but the behavior of Muslims is in itself more aggressively. It is connected not only with religion but also with the education they receive from childhood.

I believe every religion prioritize peace and love. Likewise every religion has certain community who always try to make changes to the sayings of their God. In such a way few groups might have emerged from the Islam community which makes the living worse around the world through terrorism and some other activities. For the same we should not describe that entire Islam hates people.

[Kotone]

In there mind they believe that they are the only human being are acceptable in this world this is why they hate other people like christians in other country or country muslim i should say they killing chrisitians people if they knew you were christian whats the matter with this people right? And now they love to do something bad inthere life also they believed in incarnation.