Why do islam hates people?

[gayu08]

That was a nice one and I do agree do with what you thought. Given that matter if it was not a Muslim country will the authorities would even allow her father or any other person have a say that she should not be rescued in first place?? Answer is NO. In any other part of the world which is not an Islamic country that girl would have been saved the rescue workers would not even have asked whether they can jump into water or not and if they did they would have been fired and punished for that. Don't you think so???

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[Muhammed Zakir]

I'm a muslim, do i hate people or other region? of course no. In my family there are several Islamic, Catholic, Protestant. We respect each other despite our different religions.

Most of the example I bring are not people from other religions... I understand if you haven't been through all the posts. It is a big thread. One example is post #2, or post #2336...

 

....post #2336 was about father not letting others to rescue his daughter. I suspect it was an Islamic thing too. Because father could have rescued her and in Islam, there is no rule preventing others from rescuing her. Al though, men can't see or touch women, there are certain situations where it is allowed and education & medical treatment are two of those.

Well, Zakir, I do not think this is correct.  I know you are TECHNICALLY correct, but for an average Muslim - let's say one that's not too smart, reads almost nothing, but who strictly tries to be righteous - I can see how he would make this error.

Then you have to deal with the cultural reality - that nobody protested his insane actions - that nobody went out to save the girl regardless of the nutcase carrying on.

There's about fourteen problems in that story, related to Islamic culture and Islam.  You know what?  If I'd been there, I would have gone out and saved the girl, beating the dad senseless if that was required, and being totally scared about what might have happened afterwards.

Probably best outcome would have been time spent in some total shithole of a jail.

Way different than being praised as a hero who saved someone's life, isn't it?

How about that.

That was a nice one and I do agree do with what you thought. Given that matter if it was not a Muslim country will the authorities would even allow her father or any other person have a say that she should not be rescued in first place?? Answer is NO. In any other part of the world which is not an Islamic country that girl would have been saved the rescue workers would not even have asked whether they can jump into water or not and if they did they would have been fired and punished for that. Don't you think so???

I agree except the Islamic country part. That is, even if people standing there are Muslims, they will certainly try to rescue that woman. I don't know "how" her father stopped "everyone".  There are many problems in that story. Btw, does anybody when this happened? I mean day and time?

[Wapinter]

Pakistan: Entire Family Murdered In Latest “Honor Killing”…


Pakistani police Wednesday were looking for four men believed to have killed a couple and their four children as retribution for a perceived “honor crime.”

Police officer Mohammed Aslam said the killings happened Tuesday in the town of Athara Hazari in central Pakistan.

Aslam said the men are believed to have hacked the family to death with axes and knives. One daughter, identified by police as Aisha, survived and relayed what happened to authorities. She and the other bodies were found after a man delivering milk to the house noticed that no one was coming to the door, Aslam said.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/10/pakistani-honor-killing_n_6300908.html?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000017

More than 30,000 people are killed by
firearms each year in this country
More than 30 people are shot and
murdered each day
1/2 of them are between the ages of
18 and 35
1/3 of them are under the age of 20
Homicide is the second leading cause
of death among 15- 24 year - olds
And the primary cause of death among
African Americans of that age group
source http://heedinggodscall.org/content/pfctoolkit-10
May I now ask "why Christianity hates people? ".
It is absurd to judge a religion on the basis of what its so called followers do.Religion should be judged against its scriptures
Peace...

[Spendulus]

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I agree except the Islamic country part. That is, even if people standing there are Muslims, they will certainly try to rescue that woman. I don't know "how" her father stopped "everyone".  There are many problems in that story. Btw, does anybody when this happened? I mean day and time?

Okay, so you see it the same way.

Because if that dad actually did "stop everyone," then unless he was truly someone feared (Gangster, Prince, ISIS) it's a very strange story.  Very strange even then, almost makes no sense.

As the story is told though, it focuses on the puritan religious aspect.

[Wilikon]

Pakistan: Entire Family Murdered In Latest “Honor Killing”…


Pakistani police Wednesday were looking for four men believed to have killed a couple and their four children as retribution for a perceived “honor crime.”

Police officer Mohammed Aslam said the killings happened Tuesday in the town of Athara Hazari in central Pakistan.

Aslam said the men are believed to have hacked the family to death with axes and knives. One daughter, identified by police as Aisha, survived and relayed what happened to authorities. She and the other bodies were found after a man delivering milk to the house noticed that no one was coming to the door, Aslam said.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/10/pakistani-honor-killing_n_6300908.html?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000017

More than 30,000 people are killed by
firearms each year in this country
More than 30 people are shot and
murdered each day
1/2 of them are between the ages of
18 and 35
1/3 of them are under the age of 20
Homicide is the second leading cause
of death among 15- 24 year - olds
And the primary cause of death among
African Americans of that age group
source http://heedinggodscall.org/content/pfctoolkit-10
May I now ask "why Christianity hates people? ".
It is absurd to judge a religion on the basis of what its so called followers do.Religion should be judged against its scriptures
Peace...

Is it absurd to keep women from driving?
Peace...

[gayu08]

Hey I do agree to the stats that you referred to however USA is a democracy it does identify itself as a Christian country alone. We have people from all religion and ethnicity living there unlike Pakistan which is a Muslim Country officially. Crimes homicide do happen in each country but less in the name of faith. Youngsters can be depressed or raged and may have different troubles including drug abuse and lot of crimes in that age group due to lack of guidance but at least it is not in the name of Honor or faith like which is the case in Pakistan!!!

[gayu08]

Now how do you defend this

http://freethoughtnation.com/un-muslim-states-reject-ban-on-violence-against-women-as-violating-islamic-law/

Very peaceful!!!! I mean they have an issue with reforms from UN as UN wants them to treat their women and girls as equally human as they are. They have an issue with that?? They procedure rape victims!!! For adultery and immortality when they are just been over powered in most common cases and this is peace REALLY???

[Tstar]

seriously ?? i cant believe OP is a legendary user and doesnt understands the political shit ?
its strange that i see many well knowledgeable people saying bullshit in  this thread.

[btccashacc]

any 1 forget about budism kill islam ? 

[gayu08]

Not at all forgotten however it is after decades of civil war in which for years Buddhists where slaughtered. What happens now is to an extend sort of ethnic cleansing between Muslims and Buddhists that who will kill more which is tragic.

[btccashacc]

Not at all forgotten however it is after decades of civil war in which for years Buddhists where slaughtered. What happens now is to an extend sort of ethnic cleansing between Muslims and Buddhists that who will kill more which is tragic.

are you know indonesia ? that a big moslem country but moslem never kill budism at his country

[gayu08]

The most tragic scene about Myanmar is they do all these killings by following the man who left his kingship to lead the work into peace and become the epitome of peaceful living. SAD however this all has to do with the political scene in  Myanmar as well. Half of the time the military enrage the civilians and create issues in order to keep their regime intact as the influence of democracy is increasing in recent years

[Wapinter]

Pakistan: Entire Family Murdered In Latest “Honor Killing”…


Pakistani police Wednesday were looking for four men believed to have killed a couple and their four children as retribution for a perceived “honor crime.”

Police officer Mohammed Aslam said the killings happened Tuesday in the town of Athara Hazari in central Pakistan.

Aslam said the men are believed to have hacked the family to death with axes and knives. One daughter, identified by police as Aisha, survived and relayed what happened to authorities. She and the other bodies were found after a man delivering milk to the house noticed that no one was coming to the door, Aslam said.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/10/pakistani-honor-killing_n_6300908.html?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000017

More than 30,000 people are killed by
firearms each year in this country
More than 30 people are shot and
murdered each day
1/2 of them are between the ages of
18 and 35
1/3 of them are under the age of 20
Homicide is the second leading cause
of death among 15- 24 year - olds
And the primary cause of death among
African Americans of that age group
source http://heedinggodscall.org/content/pfctoolkit-10
May I now ask "why Christianity hates people? ".
It is absurd to judge a religion on the basis of what its so called followers do.Religion should be judged against its scriptures
Peace...

Is it absurd to keep women from driving?
Peace...

Yes it is but it is also is absurd to relate it to Islam.If something wrong happens in a country that has Muslim majority,it shouldn't be assumed as islamic.If keeping women from driving was islamic,other muslim countries were also following it.Remember Pakistan and Bangladesh where women became head of the state.We have yet to see that happens in US.Should I assume Christianity is keeping women to become US prez?

[Wilikon]

seriously ?? i cant believe OP is a legendary user and doesnt understands the political shit ?
its strange that i see many well knowledgeable people saying bullshit in  this thread.

Please, have some respect for the muslims in this thread... We are all equals. I welcome you.

 

[BlackPanda]

your words very inappropriate to be delivered. I am a Moslem

[Wilikon]

your words very inappropriate to be delivered. I am a Moslem

Sunni or Shiite?

[Spendulus]

Is it absurd to keep women from driving?
Peace...

Yes it is but it is also is absurd to relate it to Islam.If something wrong happens in a country that has Muslim majority,it shouldn't be assumed as islamic.If keeping women from driving was islamic,other muslim countries were also following it.Remember Pakistan and Bangladesh where women became head of the state.We have yet to see that happens in US.Should I assume Christianity is keeping women to become US prez?

My opinion of what's going on (for what it's worth) is that Islam conjures a vision of a "Utopia," no different than Communism did so.  But today we know from hard, bitter experience that the reality of Communist societies is dark, fearful and poverty stricken, not anything like the ideal laid out by Marx.  And this is no different than many other "Utopian visions."

Here I reference the general topic of Utopia, with it's many variations - all of which have failed.  Every single one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia

It seems reasonable to consider the vast difference between Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Jordon, Iran, etc with the "Islamic ideal" as just another failure - in practice - of the Utopian vision of Islam, rather than to argue (true Scotsman fallacy) that "Those are not True Islam."

This point of view would account for those societies where tolerance, free speech and free trade exist, being more successful even though a fair fraction of the population is Muslim.  I suspect many political leaders understand these issues.

[Wapinter]

Hey I do agree to the stats that you referred to however USA is a democracy it does identify itself as a Christian country alone. We have people from all religion and ethnicity living there unlike Pakistan which is a Muslim Country officially. Crimes homicide do happen in each country but less in the name of faith. Youngsters can be depressed or raged and may have different troubles including drug abuse and lot of crimes in that age group due to lack of guidance but at least it is not in the name of Honor or faith like which is the case in Pakistan!!!

Oh yes they have better reason to kill there own people. Not in the name of faith but in the name of COLOR.
My point is that people do kill others or themselves everywhere sometimes in the name of faith,honor cast creed and color but to find the fault in their religion for their act is wrong.My objection is to the title of this thread. I am Alhamdollilah a Muslim by choice. I never killed or hate anyone so why dont you praise Islam for my this act? Let me repeat what I said earlier. A religion must be judged by its scriptures and principles not by what its so called followers do

[Wapinter]

Now how do you defend this

http://freethoughtnation.com/un-muslim-states-reject-ban-on-violence-against-women-as-violating-islamic-law/

Very peaceful!!!! I mean they have an issue with reforms from UN as UN wants them to treat their women and girls as equally human as they are. They have an issue with that?? They procedure rape victims!!! For adultery and immortality when they are just been over powered in most common cases and this is peace REALLY???

Again same mistake. I am not here to defend the so called'Muslim Nations' or there deeds.I came here to read the title of this thread which is very offensive to Muslim like me.
What a ridiculous contradiction you guys call Muslims violent and accuse us of spreading hatred but we never create such offensive threads for other religions.You peace loving guys do

[Spendulus]

Now how do you defend this

http://freethoughtnation.com/un-muslim-states-reject-ban-on-violence-against-women-as-violating-islamic-law/

Very peaceful!!!! I mean they have an issue with reforms from UN as UN wants them to treat their women and girls as equally human as they are. They have an issue with that?? They procedure rape victims!!! For adultery and immortality when they are just been over powered in most common cases and this is peace REALLY???

Again same mistake. I am not here to defend the so called'Muslim Nations' or there deeds.I came here to read the title of this thread which is very offensive to Muslim like me.
What a ridiculous contradiction you guys call Muslims violent and accuse us of spreading hatred but we never create such offensive threads for other religions.You peace loving guys do

http://freethoughtnation.com/un-muslim-states-reject-ban-on-violence-against-women-as-violating-islamic-law/

The quote is from the Kuwait News Agency.

Are you offended that we reprint and discuss this quote?  Who are you offended by?  Us, or the Kuwait News Agency?