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March 08, 2016, 01:14:04 PM
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It's nice to see other people noticing how anti-semitic the people who always scream at us about racism are.

Actually it appears to me that general relations toward the Jews shows the complete lie of "Islam being a religion of peace."

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March 08, 2016, 03:57:24 PM
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It's nice to see other people noticing how anti-semitic the people who always scream at us about racism are.

Totally unrelated to this islam/racism part of the discussion, it seems to me that racism against jews is the only logical racism that can exist. You can't become a jew, you're born a jew. And how are you born a jew? By having a jew mother.

Which means being a jew has nothing to do with culture or religion or anything but is actually a genetic characteristic.

They're probably the closest thing on earth to an independant race.

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March 08, 2016, 09:21:19 PM
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Islam doesnt hate people.people with the religion of islam hates other people.
There are groups of people that doesnt want other religion than islam.
Islam is a good religion, people makes it bad.
People don't know about islam even one piece, claim that islam hates people.
If there's hate muslims heart against to others, jews and christians made it.
Isreal kills people in Palestine, but islam is hate religion
Do you know few days ago Israeli soldiers killed 12 years old Palestinian boy. They shot him by more than 20 bullets on front of cameras. But Islam hates people
Israel bombed Gasa.  Destroyed houses and killed 4000 people in their houses. But islam is still hate religion. ....

Here we go again.

It's the EVILLLL  JEEWWWWWWSSSSSS!

Takiyya.
Were my words wrong? The biggest terrorist is Israel on the world. They clam that they were holocoust aggrieved but they do the worst genocide in Palestine and look behind terrorist organisations carefuly, you'll see Israel. Israel and Us Jewish lobies support terror on the world.
The biggest ones like Rothchilds, Rockeffellers organise wars and draw maps.
They are racist too.
You can believe judaism but you can't be jewish because it is about blood..
And, please look behind islamophobia, you will again see sionist media organs and lobbies.
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March 08, 2016, 09:50:47 PM
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Islam doesnt hate people.people with the religion of islam hates other people.
There are groups of people that doesnt want other religion than islam.
Islam is a good religion, people makes it bad.
People don't know about islam even one piece, claim that islam hates people.
If there's hate muslims heart against to others, jews and christians made it.
Isreal kills people in Palestine, but islam is hate religion
Do you know few days ago Israeli soldiers killed 12 years old Palestinian boy. They shot him by more than 20 bullets on front of cameras. But Islam hates people
Israel bombed Gasa.  Destroyed houses and killed 4000 people in their houses. But islam is still hate religion. ....

Here we go again.

It's the EVILLLL  JEEWWWWWWSSSSSS!

Takiyya.
Were my words wrong? The biggest terrorist is Israel on the world. They clam that they were holocoust aggrieved but they do the worst genocide in Palestine and look behind terrorist organisations carefuly, you'll see Israel. Israel and Us Jewish lobies support terror on the world.
The biggest ones like Rothchilds, Rockeffellers organise wars and draw maps.
They are racist too.
You can believe judaism but you can't be jewish because it is about blood..
And, please look behind islamophobia, you will again see sionist media organs and lobbies.
Yes, your words of jewophobia were wrong.  But they prove my point.  

As long as Muslim advocates of hate prattle on like this, they cannot gain any traction with their lying takiyya about being a "Religion of Peace."

It's a "religion of peace" Except toward the Jews, the Evil Great Satan, whoever pissed you off last, whoever touched your sister, on and on and on.  Fucking total idiocy.
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March 08, 2016, 10:05:07 PM
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Islam doesnt hate people.people with the religion of islam hates other people.
There are groups of people that doesnt want other religion than islam.
Islam is a good religion, people makes it bad.
People don't know about islam even one piece, claim that islam hates people.
If there's hate muslims heart against to others, jews and christians made it.
Isreal kills people in Palestine, but islam is hate religion
Do you know few days ago Israeli soldiers killed 12 years old Palestinian boy. They shot him by more than 20 bullets on front of cameras. But Islam hates people
Israel bombed Gasa.  Destroyed houses and killed 4000 people in their houses. But islam is still hate religion. ....

Here we go again.

It's the EVILLLL  JEEWWWWWWSSSSSS!

Takiyya.
Were my words wrong? The biggest terrorist is Israel on the world. They clam that they were holocoust aggrieved but they do the worst genocide in Palestine and look behind terrorist organisations carefuly, you'll see Israel. Israel and Us Jewish lobies support terror on the world.
The biggest ones like Rothchilds, Rockeffellers organise wars and draw maps.
They are racist too.
You can believe judaism but you can't be jewish because it is about blood..
And, please look behind islamophobia, you will again see sionist media organs and lobbies.

Jews are doing terrible things in the name of their "security".  True.

But, don't blame them for being successful and don't blame them for monopolizing business, politics and mass media.  They are successful because they push their kids to study hard no matter what.  They instill in their kids this "educational jihadist" mindset.  Look how many Nobel Price winners are Jews.

What has Muslim world done to contribute to humanity?  Look in the mirror.  Your religion wants to block any progress, go back to 6th century Arabia in pretty much every aspect of life.

Reform your fucking religion, educate boys and GIRLS, drop the rules imposed on yourself by a 6th century killer and a rapist.    Start by burning that Quran of yours and write a new book.

Why would you want to even listen to a guy who fucked a 9 year old girl?

Reform your society to be like the rest of the world.  Why you are rejecting Western values and Western progress?  You think the rest of the world will convert to your fucked up religion.  How insane are you?

You either catch up to the rest of the civilized world, or you will be left behind...and will continue complaining about the West, and the Jews.

You should not care what the West is doing, you should care what you are doing?  How do you advance medicine, engineering, science?  Where are the particle accelerators in the Middle East, where are the vaccine research centers?  

I tell you, your first step should be to burn Quran.

You want to see how to do it, look at Christians.  They have adapted (for the most part) to the changing world.  Their stuff is bat shit crazy as well, but at least they accept most of the progressive values.  It is ongoing process with them.  

The bottom line is this: religions are relics of the past.  They will be eradicated from societies sooner rather than later.  You can accept it now or your children and grandchildren will have hard time finding jobs.



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March 08, 2016, 10:35:02 PM
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But, don't blame them for being successful and don't blame them for monopolizing business, politics and mass media.  They are successful because they push their kids to study hard no matter what.  They instill in their kids this "educational jihadist" mindset.  Look how many Nobel Price winners are Jews.
Actually yes!  They are successful on many things about life. They are educated. But big rate of muslim people are not good educated and they misunderstand islam. Whereas,  Quran's first verse is "read"

What has Muslim world done to contribute to humanity?  Look in the mirror.  Your religion wants to block any progress, go back to 6th century Arabia in pretty much every aspect of life.
Same. That is muslims mistake so islam advices to learn always. Our Holly Prophet says:  Learn from craddle to grave.
Science is muslim's lost goods, wherever if you find, take.

Reform your fucking religion, educate boys and GIRLS, drop the rules imposed on yourself by a 6th century killer and rapist.    Start by burning that Quran of yours and write a new book.
Please, use softer words for more than 1 billion people's Holy Book. Today's situation of muslims is not Quran's mistake. Today's muslims are reading Quran only for heaven without trying understand Allah's words.
If you have read Quran you really will see miracles and you will understand different by different things.  Have you ever read? I don't think

Why would you want to even listen to a guy who fucked a 9 year old girl?
This a slander!  Our Mother was 12 years old and it was 1400 years ago and there was early marriage in arabic culture upon that time. In warm climate like arabia, girls became adult earlier than cooler climate. That is still same.  

Reform your society to be like the rest of the world.  Why you are rejecting Western values and Western progress?  You think the rest of the world will convert to your fucked up religion.  How insane are you?

You either catch up to the rest of the civilized world, or you will be left behind...and will continue complaining about the West, and the Jews.

You should not care what West is doing, you should care what you are doing?  How do you advance medicine, engineering, science?  Where are particle accelerators in the Middle East, where are the vaccine research centers?  

I tell you, your first step should be to burn Quran.
Last i have to tell you to stop prejudice about Quran.
Even ona time read and investigate it. Then come and we, discuss  again

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March 08, 2016, 10:50:44 PM
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But, don't blame them for being successful and don't blame them for monopolizing business, politics and mass media.  They are successful because they push their kids to study hard no matter what.  They instill in their kids this "educational jihadist" mindset.  Look how many Nobel Price winners are Jews.
Actually yes!  They are successful on many things about life. They are educated. But big rate of muslim people are not good educated and they misunderstand islam. Whereas,  Quran's first verse is "read"

What has Muslim world done to contribute to humanity?  Look in the mirror.  Your religion wants to block any progress, go back to 6th century Arabia in pretty much every aspect of life.
Same. That is muslims mistake so islam advices to learn always. Our Holly Prophet says:  Learn from craddle to grave.
Science is muslim's lost goods, wherever if you find, take.

Reform your fucking religion, educate boys and GIRLS, drop the rules imposed on yourself by a 6th century killer and rapist.    Start by burning that Quran of yours and write a new book.
Please, use softer words for more than 1 billion people's Holy Book. Today's situation of muslims is not Quran's mistake. Today's muslims are reading Quran only for heaven without trying understand Allah's words.
If you have read Quran you really will see miracles and you will understand different by different things.  Have you ever read? I don't think

Why would you want to even listen to a guy who fucked a 9 year old girl?
This a slander!  Our Mother was 12 years old and it was 1400 years ago and there was early marriage in arabic culture upon that time. In warm climate like arabia, girls became adult earlier than cooler climate. That is still same.  

Reform your society to be like the rest of the world.  Why you are rejecting Western values and Western progress?  You think the rest of the world will convert to your fucked up religion.  How insane are you?

You either catch up to the rest of the civilized world, or you will be left behind...and will continue complaining about the West, and the Jews.

You should not care what West is doing, you should care what you are doing?  How do you advance medicine, engineering, science?  Where are particle accelerators in the Middle East, where are the vaccine research centers?  

I tell you, your first step should be to burn Quran.
Last i have to tell you to stop prejudice about Quran.
Even ona time read and investigate it. Then come and we, discuss  again



First of all, learn how to quote people when replying to their posts.  It is hard to follow because you mixed up what I said with your replies.

Slander?  He married his "child wife" when she was 6, and fucked her when she was 9.  
He was a sick individual.

If you don't think it WAS (is) wrong, you have a long way to go to catch up to the rest of the world.

BTW, if you tell me that flying horses exist (or could have existed in the 6th century), the rational part of the conversation is over.

If you believe in the above, you deserve to be locked into your belief.

What is your backup plan when you run out of oil?  Rape and plunder like your pedophile leader?




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March 09, 2016, 12:10:57 AM
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... That is muslims mistake so islam advices to learn always. Our Holly Prophet says:  Learn from craddle to grave.
Science is muslim's lost goods, wherever if you find, take.

....
Please, use softer words for more than 1 billion people's Holy Book. Today's situation of muslims is not Quran's mistake. Today's muslims are reading Quran only for heaven without trying understand Allah's words.
If you have read Quran you really will see miracles and you will understand different by different things.  Have you ever read? I don't think
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Last i have to tell you to stop prejudice about Quran.
Even ona time read and investigate it. Then come and we, discuss  again


You want softer words for your old holy book?

How about you show some respect for athiests such as I, show some respect for Jews, and other people?  Repeating over and over "Read my book" is not showing respect.  It is arrogance and hubris.



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Honesty...


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Why does Islam hate people? Because the guy who set Islam up was a greedy, lustful, warmonger. All he was out to get was greater wealth. He simply happened to be shrewder than many other people about how to do it. So he set Islam up.

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March 21, 2016, 03:28:59 PM
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actualy islam doesnt hates people  , because there is another company on islam like ISIS , they actualy not islam but maybe ppl like you all called them islam

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March 21, 2016, 03:42:13 PM
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i want to ask too, Why do America hates islam?

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actualy islam doesnt hates people  , because there is another company on islam like ISIS , they actualy not islam but maybe ppl like you all called them islam

Tell you what. 

You go say that to some ISIS guys. 

I'll sit back and wait.

Then I'll discuss the subject with the ones who still have their heads attached.

Fair?
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Islam DOES NOT hate people at all, of any kind. Islam likes peace & harmony. Islam likes equality.

Anyone who claims others life by saying that it's an order of Islam, they are idiots. They are just trying to blacken the name of Islam, nothing else. Our beloved Prophet, our beloved Holy Quran, all taught us to keep friendship in the world.

Even Quran itself believes in Bible, but at the same time it tells us that it's not in it's true condition in which God gave it to Jesus Christ. The teachings of Quran and Bible match a lot, if you don't believe me, go and read both.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_and_Quranic_narratives
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Islam DOES NOT hate people at all, of any kind. Islam likes peace & harmony. Islam likes equality.

Anyone who claims others life by saying that it's an order of Islam, they are idiots. They are just trying to blacken the name of Islam, nothing else. Our beloved Prophet, our beloved Holy Quran, all taught us to keep friendship in the world.

Even Quran itself believes in Bible, but at the same time it tells us that it's not in it's true condition in which God gave it to Jesus Christ. The teachings of Quran and Bible match a lot, if you don't believe me, go and read both.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_and_Quranic_narratives
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i want to ask too, Why do America hates islam?

Mostly because Americans love the Muslim peoples, and don't want them to continue to be destroyed by Islam.

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Islam DOES NOT hate people at all, of any kind. Islam likes peace & harmony. Islam likes equality.

Anyone who claims others life by saying that it's an order of Islam, they are idiots. They are just trying to blacken the name of Islam, nothing else. Our beloved Prophet, our beloved Holy Quran, all taught us to keep friendship in the world.

Even Quran itself believes in Bible, but at the same time it tells us that it's not in it's true condition in which God gave it to Jesus Christ. The teachings of Quran and Bible match a lot, if you don't believe me, go and read both.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_and_Quranic_narratives

Islam is dead. It doesn't do anything. The only Islam things done are by Muslims - people.

Is Islam peaceful? From http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
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Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...

but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.   And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone.  But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"  (Translation is from the Noble Quran)  The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries.  In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did).  The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse).  The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation.  Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

 

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

 

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."  Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time.  From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

 

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

 

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".  This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

 

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."  The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter.  These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah.  This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

 

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

 

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

 

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"  This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes.  It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle.  Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption.  (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).

 

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."  Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

 

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

 

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"  No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

 

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

 

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"  Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for  2:193).  The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj.  Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction.  The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did).  Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition.  According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

 

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember." 

 

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

 

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape.  Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

 

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

 

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."  According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars).  This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack.  Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months).  The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat.  Once the Muslims had the power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

 

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "healing" the hearts of Muslims.

 

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant."  The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad".  The context is obviously holy war.

 

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."  "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews.  According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status.  This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years.  Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.


Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

 

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place."  This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

 

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew."  See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them"  This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).


Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."  Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter.  It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

 

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."


Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."  How does the Quran define a true believer?

 

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

 

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."  Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction."  (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

 

Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion.  The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation.  One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74).  However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude."  He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son.  (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia.  Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)

 

Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

 

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..."   "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context.  It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

 

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while.  Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."   This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers.  It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do.  If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.

 

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost."  Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad.  The wounded are to be held captive for ransom.  The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims.  Those who kill pass the test.

 

Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"   

 

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom."  Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.'  Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted?  This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

 

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"  Islam is not about treating everyone equally.  There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status.  Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' in verse 16.

 

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"  Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict.  This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."  (See next verse, below).  Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

 

Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success."  This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above).  It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

 

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end."  The root word of "Jihad" is used again here.  The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

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March 21, 2016, 08:59:39 PM
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Islam DOES NOT hate people at all, of any kind. Islam likes peace & harmony. Islam likes equality.

Anyone who claims others life by saying that it's an order of Islam, they are idiots. They are just trying to blacken the name of Islam, nothing else. Our beloved Prophet, our beloved Holy Quran, all taught us to keep friendship in the world.

Even Quran itself believes in Bible, but at the same time it tells us that it's not in it's true condition in which God gave it to Jesus Christ. The teachings of Quran and Bible match a lot, if you don't believe me, go and read both.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_and_Quranic_narratives

Tell you what.

You go say that to some ISIS guys.

I'll sit back and wait.

Then I'll discuss the subject with the ones who still have their heads attached.

Fair?
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The religion of Islam is not dedicated to hating other people. That is a large generalization that many people make.

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March 22, 2016, 09:55:08 AM
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And yet today we heard Muslims talking about sacking Rome and forcing conversion to Islam on the world. I don't think Moslems are any better publicity for Muhamed than Christians are for Jesus. If either is judged by their followers then they each failed miserably
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