Why do islam hates people?

[Spendulus]

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   Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries....

...because maybe the result in Islamic countries of a woman reporting a rape is that the police rape her?

Let's look at where a bunch of those Muslims were moved to a country where rape IS REPORTED SAFELY and see what happened, shall we?

....after the Swedish parliament unanimously decided to change the formerly homogenous Sweden into a multicultural country, violent crime has increased by 300% and rapes by 1,472%.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

Any other propaganda, lies or pro-Muslim nonsense you want to pull out for the benefit of your audience?

Just to be clear here. That's your Muslims you are so proud of, raping Swedish women left and right. Your people.  Now let's look back at the thread title, shall we? Why do Islam hates people?

What's your answer? Islamic rapists don't hate? They just enjoy a bit of kuffer pussy now and then?

[Sithara007]

Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries if they are dangerous for women?

In reality, the Muslim nations have one of the highest rates for rape in the world. But the truth never comes out because less than 1% of the rapes are reported. This is because in Muslim nations, if a rape happens then the probability is that the victim will receive a much harsher sentence when compared to the perpetrator.

[Spendulus]

Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries if they are dangerous for women?

In reality, the Muslim nations have one of the highest rates for rape in the world. But the truth never comes out because less than 1% of the rapes are reported. This is because in Muslim nations, if a rape happens then the probability is that the victim will receive a much harsher sentence when compared to the perpetrator.

This is in conflict with Semaforo's proudly presented facts on incidence of rape in Muslim nations.

How can this be?

Wait...you did say..."In reality"....

Would Islam in and of itself cause it's members to not be in reality?

[semaforo]

Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries if they are dangerous for women?

In reality, the Muslim nations have one of the highest rates for rape in the world. But the truth never comes out because less than 1% of the rapes are reported. This is because in Muslim nations, if a rape happens then the probability is that the victim will receive a much harsher sentence when compared to the perpetrator.

This is in conflict with Semaforo's proudly presented facts on incidence of rape in Muslim nations.

How can this be?

Wait...you did say..."In reality"....

Would Islam in and of itself cause it's members to not be in reality?

   Your arguments would carry a lot more weight if you had ever been to any of these countries. All statistics are flawed, although they are also adjusted for the issues you mention- including the ones that support your viewpoints, but it is glaringly obvious that the behavioral norms, particularly in conservative Muslim countries, simply do not allow for the fraction of the rape or sexual abuse as in western countries. Again, simply the fact that a majority of rapes in the United States involve alcohol points to the fact that with less alcohol consumption comes less rape.

Oh yeah, and by the way, the statistics on rape include not only reported rapes but in many studies anonymous surveys which tend to be much more accurate as there is no risk of social stigma for participants- and these also indicate that the United States has one of the highest rates in the world.

     If you actually spend time living with Muslim families, you see very quickly that the level of respect and honor accorded to women increases as they age, whereas in western countries you see many extremely lonely and  neglected elderly women who are no longer very valued due to having lost their physical beauty.

    It is very obvious that the norms of gender relations in the west put women into danger- but again, most critics are speaking from having browsed the websites of terrified and hateful peopñe than actually having had contact with Muslims.

     As for the case of Sweden, there is s consistent trend that social inequality leads to increased crime rates, and opening immigration has led to higher inequality- and if you actually look into it, you find the vast majority of the people convicted of crimes are not practicing Islam even a little- it is just part of their cultural background, and similar crime rates exist among Christian racial underclasses like Mexicans in the United States- the issue really has nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with extreme global inequality and continuing injustice on the part of the dominant class- these rising crime rates, as well as increased immigration, are largely a result of the economic devastation wrought by the destruction of traditional social orders of the countries where most of these immigrants come from in order to advance European economic interests- in other words, you reap what you sow.

[Spendulus]

Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries if they are dangerous for women?

In reality, the Muslim nations have one of the highest rates for rape in the world. But the truth never comes out because less than 1% of the rapes are reported. This is because in Muslim nations, if a rape happens then the probability is that the victim will receive a much harsher sentence when compared to the perpetrator.

This is in conflict with Semaforo's proudly presented facts on incidence of rape in Muslim nations.

How can this be?

Wait...you did say..."In reality"....

Would Islam in and of itself cause it's members to not be in reality?

   Your arguments would carry a lot more weight if you had ever been to any of these countries. All statistics are flawed, although they are also adjusted for the issues you mention- including the ones that support your viewpoints, but it is glaringly obvious that the behavioral norms, particularly in conservative Muslim countries, simply do not allow for the fraction of the rape or sexual abuse as in western countries. Again, simply the fact that a majority of rapes in the United States involve alcohol points to the fact that with less alcohol consumption comes less rape.

Oh yeah, and by the way, the statistics on rape include not only reported rapes but in many studies anonymous surveys which tend to be much more accurate as there is no risk of social stigma for participants- and these also indicate that the United States has one of the highest rates in the world.

     If you actually spend time living with Muslim families, you see very quickly that the level of respect and honor accorded to women increases as they age, whereas in western countries you see many extremely lonely and  neglected elderly women who are no longer very valued due to having lost their physical beauty.

    It is very obvious that the norms of gender relations in the west put women into danger- but again, most critics are speaking from having browsed the websites of terrified and hateful peopñe than actually having had contact with Muslims.

     As for the case of Sweden, there is s consistent trend that social inequality leads to increased crime rates, and opening immigration has led to higher inequality- and if you actually look into it, you find the vast majority of the people convicted of crimes are not practicing Islam even a little- it is just part of their cultural background, and similar crime rates exist among Christian racial underclasses like Mexicans in the United States- the issue really has nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with extreme global inequality and continuing injustice on the part of the dominant class- these rising crime rates, as well as increased immigration, are largely a result of the economic devastation wrought by the destruction of traditional social orders of the countries where most of these immigrants come from in order to advance European economic interests- in other words, you reap what you sow.

Response.

Ad hominem, outright denial, and True Scotsman.

Please stop the Takiyya. It does not fool anyone here.

[semaforo]

Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries if they are dangerous for women?

In reality, the Muslim nations have one of the highest rates for rape in the world. But the truth never comes out because less than 1% of the rapes are reported. This is because in Muslim nations, if a rape happens then the probability is that the victim will receive a much harsher sentence when compared to the perpetrator.

This is in conflict with Semaforo's proudly presented facts on incidence of rape in Muslim nations.

How can this be?

Wait...you did say..."In reality"....

Would Islam in and of itself cause it's members to not be in reality?

   Your arguments would carry a lot more weight if you had ever been to any of these countries. All statistics are flawed, although they are also adjusted for the issues you mention- including the ones that support your viewpoints, but it is glaringly obvious that the behavioral norms, particularly in conservative Muslim countries, simply do not allow for the fraction of the rape or sexual abuse as in western countries. Again, simply the fact that a majority of rapes in the United States involve alcohol points to the fact that with less alcohol consumption comes less rape.

Oh yeah, and by the way, the statistics on rape include not only reported rapes but in many studies anonymous surveys which tend to be much more accurate as there is no risk of social stigma for participants- and these also indicate that the United States has one of the highest rates in the world.

     If you actually spend time living with Muslim families, you see very quickly that the level of respect and honor accorded to women increases as they age, whereas in western countries you see many extremely lonely and  neglected elderly women who are no longer very valued due to having lost their physical beauty.

    It is very obvious that the norms of gender relations in the west put women into danger- but again, most critics are speaking from having browsed the websites of terrified and hateful peopñe than actually having had contact with Muslims.

     As for the case of Sweden, there is s consistent trend that social inequality leads to increased crime rates, and opening immigration has led to higher inequality- and if you actually look into it, you find the vast majority of the people convicted of crimes are not practicing Islam even a little- it is just part of their cultural background, and similar crime rates exist among Christian racial underclasses like Mexicans in the United States- the issue really has nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with extreme global inequality and continuing injustice on the part of the dominant class- these rising crime rates, as well as increased immigration, are largely a result of the economic devastation wrought by the destruction of traditional social orders of the countries where most of these immigrants come from in order to advance European economic interests- in other words, you reap what you sow.

Response.

Ad hominem, outright denial, and True Scotsman.

Please stop the Takiyya. It does not fool anyone here.

    1: ad hominem: the original suggestion was that Muslim societies are hostile to women- implicit in this is that they are more so than western societies. So I mentioned my personal experience with certain ways in which women get more respect and honor in traditionally Muslim cultures. Is this what you call ad hominem?  Besides, if there is a motive for distorting the truth someone is going to do it, and there is a very clear motive in this civilizational war, which I think deserves to be part of the discussion. People don't arrive to intensely negative perceptions about cultures they have little or no contact with without a lot of energy being put into it. My issue is that the perception I got traveling through place like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Morocco, Egypt, Turkey, and Senegal was dramatically different than the impression I got about Muslim cultures from the media in the US, which is why my first response to this is to ask what level of experience the people making these comments actually have with the subject matter at hand. It's a reasonable question- if someone is telling me my car needs a new head gasket, it's not a logical fallacy to ask what their qualifications as a mechanic are.

2: outright denial: What am I denying? The argument that the stigma on rape leads to underreporting? This is true, but as I said the source for this information is not only crime statistics- and I have also seen isolated cases where rape victims are punished being vastly blown out proportion to make it appear as if these injustices are systemic.

3: true scotsman: by the legal definition of Islam, someone who does not pray 5 times a day is not a Muslim.

   You are using stock arguments that don't really match up to what I am saying so I understand you are a veteran internet debater, but this just doesn't work here.

   If you are unhappy and filled with hate and lookong for someone to blame I suggest focusing the financial elite who have enslaved the better part of humanity, and who are using the civilizational conflict to further increase their power at the expense of millions of innocent people among all of the earths people. A combative attitude towards Islam simply plays into their hands, and is ultimatelt aggravating the issue rather than improving it.

   Takiyya is mainly practiced by shia, another gross misinterpretation of the islam hate websites. The reality is that most of the 'good' moderate Muslims are generally hypocrites. I don't deny any of the aspects of Islam thst haters usually cite- it all makes sense to me. It's silly to pin it on cultural Muslims though- Bulgarian christian immigrants in Sweden also have above average levels of criminality, it has to do with socio economic status more than cultural or religious background.

   There's so much hate and paranoia here it's just not that coherent what you are talking about. Are you suggesting Islam allows rape? In certain circumstances, you may be right, according to certain opinions, as in the case of female captives in war- however, they also have a high level if rights- they can only have intercourse with one man at a time, he is responsible to feed and clothe them at the level lf his own family and they should live with the family as a family member, if he hits her he is obligated to free her, if she becomes pregnant she cannot be sold, and anyone who purchases her must ensure she is not pregant before having intercourse with her, and must then be freed upon her owners death. Compared to the actions of any one of a dozen of the proxy armies financed and supported by the west this is extremely kind treatment. Besides, Islam is responsible for the freeing of more slaves thsn any social movement in history.

   So I think you see I am not your run of the mill apologist- rather I see the modern system(not to be confused with modern technologt) as far worse, albeit it indirectly. So what is it I am trying to deceive about?

[Spendulus]

Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries if they are dangerous for women?

In reality, the Muslim nations have one of the highest rates for rape in the world. But the truth never comes out because less than 1% of the rapes are reported. This is because in Muslim nations, if a rape happens then the probability is that the victim will receive a much harsher sentence when compared to the perpetrator.

This is in conflict with Semaforo's proudly presented facts on incidence of rape in Muslim nations.

How can this be?

Wait...you did say..."In reality"....

Would Islam in and of itself cause it's members to not be in reality?

   Your arguments would carry a lot more weight if you had ever been to any of these countries. All statistics are flawed, although they are also adjusted for the issues you mention- including the ones that support your viewpoints, but it is glaringly obvious that the behavioral norms, particularly in conservative Muslim countries, simply do not allow for the fraction of the rape or sexual abuse as in western countries. Again, simply the fact that a majority of rapes in the United States involve alcohol points to the fact that with less alcohol consumption comes less rape.

Oh yeah, and by the way, the statistics on rape include not only reported rapes but in many studies anonymous surveys which tend to be much more accurate as there is no risk of social stigma for participants- and these also indicate that the United States has one of the highest rates in the world.

     If you actually spend time living with Muslim families, you see very quickly that the level of respect and honor accorded to women increases as they age, whereas in western countries you see many extremely lonely and  neglected elderly women who are no longer very valued due to having lost their physical beauty.

    It is very obvious that the norms of gender relations in the west put women into danger- but again, most critics are speaking from having browsed the websites of terrified and hateful peopñe than actually having had contact with Muslims.

     As for the case of Sweden, there is s consistent trend that social inequality leads to increased crime rates, and opening immigration has led to higher inequality- and if you actually look into it, you find the vast majority of the people convicted of crimes are not practicing Islam even a little- it is just part of their cultural background, and similar crime rates exist among Christian racial underclasses like Mexicans in the United States- the issue really has nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with extreme global inequality and continuing injustice on the part of the dominant class- these rising crime rates, as well as increased immigration, are largely a result of the economic devastation wrought by the destruction of traditional social orders of the countries where most of these immigrants come from in order to advance European economic interests- in other words, you reap what you sow.

Response.

Ad hominem, outright denial, and True Scotsman.

Please stop the Takiyya. It does not fool anyone here.

    1: ad hominem: the original suggestion was that Muslim societies are hostile to women- implicit in this is that they are more so than western societies. So I mentioned my personal experience with certain ways in which women get more respect and honor in traditionally Muslim cultures. Is this what you call ad hominem?  Besides, if there is a motive for distorting the truth someone is going to do it, and there is a very clear motive in this civilizational war, which I think deserves to be part of the discussion. People don't arrive to intensely negative perceptions about cultures they have little or no contact with without a lot of energy being put into it. My issue is that the perception I got traveling through place like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Morocco, Egypt, Turkey, and Senegal was dramatically different than the impression I got about Muslim cultures from the media in the US, which is why my first response to this is to ask what level of experience the people making these comments actually have with the subject matter at hand. It's a reasonable question- if someone is telling me my car needs a new head gasket, it's not a logical fallacy to ask what their qualifications as a mechanic are.

2: outright denial: What am I denying? The argument that the stigma on rape leads to underreporting? This is true, but as I said the source for this information is not only crime statistics- and I have also seen isolated cases where rape victims are punished being vastly blown out proportion to make it appear as if these injustices are systemic.

3: true scotsman: by the legal definition of Islam, someone who does not pray 5 times a day is not a Muslim.

   You are using stock arguments that don't really match up to what I am saying so I understand you are a veteran internet debater, but this just doesn't work here.

   If you are unhappy and filled with hate and lookong for someone to blame I suggest focusing the financial elite who have enslaved the better part of humanity, and who are using the civilizational conflict to further increase their power at the expense of millions of innocent people among all of the earths people. A combative attitude towards Islam simply plays into their hands, and is ultimatelt aggravating the issue rather than improving it.

   Takiyya is mainly practiced by shia, another gross misinterpretation of the islam hate websites. The reality is that most of the 'good' moderate Muslims are generally hypocrites. I don't deny any of the aspects of Islam thst haters usually cite- it all makes sense to me. It's silly to pin it on cultural Muslims though- Bulgarian christian immigrants in Sweden also have above average levels of criminality, it has to do with socio economic status more than cultural or religious background.

   There's so much hate and paranoia here it's just not that coherent what you are talking about. Are you suggesting Islam allows rape? In certain circumstances, you may be right, according to certain opinions, as in the case of female captives in war- however, they also have a high level if rights- they can only have intercourse with one man at a time, he is responsible to feed and clothe them at the level lf his own family and they should live with the family as a family member, if he hits her he is obligated to free her, if she becomes pregnant she cannot be sold, and anyone who purchases her must ensure she is not pregant before having intercourse with her, and must then be freed upon her owners death. Compared to the actions of any one of a dozen of the proxy armies financed and supported by the west this is extremely kind treatment. Besides, Islam is responsible for the freeing of more slaves thsn any social movement in history.

   So I think you see I am not your run of the mill apologist- rather I see the modern system(not to be confused with modern technologt) as far worse, albeit it indirectly. So what is it I am trying to deceive about?

Lying is lying, please stop it.

Let's take just one of your treasured Muslim countries, a shithole called Egypt. We'll look at the first paragraph of Wikipedia's entry on the subject.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Egypt

Rape is one of the most common crimes in Egypt.[1] Marital rape is not illegal in the country. By 2008, U.N. quoted Egypt's Interior Ministry's figure that 20,000 rapes take place every year, although according to the activist Engy Ghozlan (ECWR), rapes are 10 times higher than the stats given by Interior Ministry, making it 200,000 per year.[2] Mona Eltahawy has also noted the same figure (200,000), and added that it was before the revolution, today the number is actually higher.[3]

Rapes have been carried out during festivals and the Egyptian protests, it includes the public rapes carried on women, and the female journalists.[4]

[siti25]

Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries if they are dangerous for women?

In reality, the Muslim nations have one of the highest rates for rape in the world. But the truth never comes out because less than 1% of the rapes are reported. This is because in Muslim nations, if a rape happens then the probability is that the victim will receive a much harsher sentence when compared to the perpetrator.

are you a Muslim? From where you can know that the penalty of rape victims is more severe than a rapist, can you provide any real evidence? Such as articles or links that you can attach here?
Are you just babbling with nonsense?

[Sithara007]

Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries if they are dangerous for women?

In reality, the Muslim nations have one of the highest rates for rape in the world. But the truth never comes out because less than 1% of the rapes are reported. This is because in Muslim nations, if a rape happens then the probability is that the victim will receive a much harsher sentence when compared to the perpetrator.

are you a Muslim? From where you can know that the penalty of rape victims is more severe than a rapist, can you provide any real evidence? Such as articles or links that you can attach here?
Are you just babbling with nonsense?

I am not a Muslim, but I am knowledgeable about the Islamic Law. Under Islamic law, rape can only be proven if the rapist confesses or if there are four male witnesses. If the victim can't prove that a rape has taken place, then there is a risk that she may be stoned to death for adultery.

[Spendulus]

Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries if they are dangerous for women?

In reality, the Muslim nations have one of the highest rates for rape in the world. But the truth never comes out because less than 1% of the rapes are reported. This is because in Muslim nations, if a rape happens then the probability is that the victim will receive a much harsher sentence when compared to the perpetrator.

are you a Muslim? From where you can know that the penalty of rape victims is more severe than a rapist, can you provide any real evidence? Such as articles or links that you can attach here?
Are you just babbling with nonsense?

http://thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/rape-adultery.aspx

http://www.christianpost.com/news/islamic-rape-gangs-a-global-phenomenon-126107/

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

[Palmerson]

Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries if they are dangerous for women?

In reality, the Muslim nations have one of the highest rates for rape in the world. But the truth never comes out because less than 1% of the rapes are reported. This is because in Muslim nations, if a rape happens then the probability is that the victim will receive a much harsher sentence when compared to the perpetrator.

are you a Muslim? From where you can know that the penalty of rape victims is more severe than a rapist, can you provide any real evidence? Such as articles or links that you can attach here?
Are you just babbling with nonsense?

I am not a Muslim, but I am knowledgeable about the Islamic Law. Under Islamic law, rape can only be proven if the rapist confesses or if there are four male witnesses. If the victim can't prove that a rape has taken place, then there is a risk that she may be stoned to death for adultery.

Can I be considered a racist or a fascist, but I do not like Muslims. All of them for me are no different from primitive people. Big mistake Merkel was that she allowed this herd of uneducated people in Europe. Now it will be very difficult to expel them home.

[nagobinga]

I am Muslim and I do not hate any religion that I hate people who commit crimes.

[semaforo]

Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries if they are dangerous for women?

In reality, the Muslim nations have one of the highest rates for rape in the world. But the truth never comes out because less than 1% of the rapes are reported. This is because in Muslim nations, if a rape happens then the probability is that the victim will receive a much harsher sentence when compared to the perpetrator.

are you a Muslim? From where you can know that the penalty of rape victims is more severe than a rapist, can you provide any real evidence? Such as articles or links that you can attach here?
Are you just babbling with nonsense?

http://thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/rape-adultery.aspx

http://www.christianpost.com/news/islamic-rape-gangs-a-global-phenomenon-126107/

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

   Wow, you accusw me of lying with no evidence, and then base an entire argument on the opinion of one 'activist'? Basically saying 'some dude thinks' so it must actually be true...

   I don't understand how talking about something of which you have no knowledge is not lying. I actually live in Egypt, so I know this is nonsense. The simple structure of the society does not allow it, and as I mentioned twice already, the majority of rapes worldwide involve alcohol, so on that basis alone are much lower in Muslim countries. However, my own experience here points very clearly to the same conclusion.


     There is a stigma on rape everywhere, which is why anonymous surveys rather than official statistics are a better measure. Every statistic is flawed, and of course people tend to be more critical of statistics that challenge their beliefs.

  The US population is 3.5 times larger than Egypt, and yet the rape statistic is 9 times that in Egypt. To suggest that under reporting is higher in one of these countries due to more social stigma would simply be conjecture.

   Practically, as politically incorrect as it may be to say it, the fact is a girl who wears a mini skirt, goes to a party packed full of men, and gets blacked out drunk is WAY more likely to be raped than a woman who doesn't leave the house except with a male relative. The level of social isolation is much higher in the US, so there are far more opportunities for rape- in Egypt there is little or no privacy, which, while extremely annoying, doesn't leave nearly as many opportunities for rape.

      It seems to be key for people to live in an alternate reality of hateful websites rather than actually having extensive contact with these cultures in order to have such viewpoints- the fragile illusions constructed online with select statistics and articles just can't hold up to the rigors of the real world.


 

[Bagaji]

I am here to just say one thing? Why do YOU hate people? and you should really give a valid reason not a shitty one that says 'Because Jews, Because Christians, Because Atheists'
and Yes, I am a people's person for those who ask, just tell me, come out of your shell and say why you HATE people like myself, and I could be here to clarify things to you, or not...
Also here is something that most muslims mistake about people's person like me is that "Christianity or Buddhism hate other religions" for this I say, Christianity or Buddhism does not hate ANY religion, but they suggest to 'invite' them to Christianity or Buddhism or Judaism, as slowly, and peacefully, even if they refuse, you can try and try, until it's their choice, you stop. and for all the wars that happened, it's because this other religion decided to come into war on Christianity or Buddhism or Judaism.

If you need anything clarified, I may not be here to answer you, don't be scared, I won't be offended by anyone, also haters, you can reply, I won't care Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink


In other news ->

In answering this question it is pertinent to first put on record the fact that Islam as a religion doesn't hate people. It's adherent of the religion who favor extremist ideology that hate other people. Islam just like Christenity, Judaism, atheist etc have people on the left and right wing along side the moderates. Therefore, hate is not an exclusive preserve of Islam as a religious embodiment.

[Spendulus]

Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries if they are dangerous for women?

In reality, the Muslim nations have one of the highest rates for rape in the world. But the truth never comes out because less than 1% of the rapes are reported. This is because in Muslim nations, if a rape happens then the probability is that the victim will receive a much harsher sentence when compared to the perpetrator.

are you a Muslim? From where you can know that the penalty of rape victims is more severe than a rapist, can you provide any real evidence? Such as articles or links that you can attach here?
Are you just babbling with nonsense?

http://thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/rape-adultery.aspx

http://www.christianpost.com/news/islamic-rape-gangs-a-global-phenomenon-126107/

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

   Wow, you accusw me of lying with no evidence, and then base an entire argument on the opinion of one 'activist'? Basically saying 'some dude thinks' so it must actually be true...

   I don't understand how talking about something of which you have no knowledge is not lying. I actually live in Egypt, so I know this is nonsense.....

What part of Wikipedia's entry  that I linked to on "Rape in Egypt" is nonsense?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Egypt

Looks to me like you are just another Islamic propagandist, lying to cover up the dismal truth about  reality of life in a largely Islamic country. Just curious - is it you that is creating all the Newbie sock puppets and flooding these threads with pro-Islamic junk one liners? It's okay if you admit to it, it's no big deal.

[Astargath]

Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries if they are dangerous for women?

In reality, the Muslim nations have one of the highest rates for rape in the world. But the truth never comes out because less than 1% of the rapes are reported. This is because in Muslim nations, if a rape happens then the probability is that the victim will receive a much harsher sentence when compared to the perpetrator.

are you a Muslim? From where you can know that the penalty of rape victims is more severe than a rapist, can you provide any real evidence? Such as articles or links that you can attach here?
Are you just babbling with nonsense?

http://thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/rape-adultery.aspx

http://www.christianpost.com/news/islamic-rape-gangs-a-global-phenomenon-126107/

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

   Wow, you accusw me of lying with no evidence, and then base an entire argument on the opinion of one 'activist'? Basically saying 'some dude thinks' so it must actually be true...

   I don't understand how talking about something of which you have no knowledge is not lying. I actually live in Egypt, so I know this is nonsense.....

What part of Wikipedia's entry  that I linked to on "Rape in Egypt" is nonsense?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Egypt

Looks to me like you are just another Islamic propagandist, lying to cover up the dismal truth about  reality of life in a largely Islamic country. Just curious - is it you that is creating all the Newbie sock puppets and flooding these threads with pro-Islamic junk one liners? It's okay if you admit to it, it's no big deal.

Of course like all religiotards they will just deny it even if it is right there in their books, clear. No it's not literal, no it's a metaphor, no that's the old testament, no you just didn't understand it. Excuses, excuses and more excuses for their piece of shit books written thousands of years ago by ignorant people.

[Spendulus]

Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries if they are dangerous for women?

In reality, the Muslim nations have one of the highest rates for rape in the world. But the truth never comes out because less than 1% of the rapes are reported. This is because in Muslim nations, if a rape happens then the probability is that the victim will receive a much harsher sentence when compared to the perpetrator.

are you a Muslim? From where you can know that the penalty of rape victims is more severe than a rapist, can you provide any real evidence? Such as articles or links that you can attach here?
Are you just babbling with nonsense?

http://thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/rape-adultery.aspx

http://www.christianpost.com/news/islamic-rape-gangs-a-global-phenomenon-126107/

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

   Wow, you accusw me of lying with no evidence, and then base an entire argument on the opinion of one 'activist'? Basically saying 'some dude thinks' so it must actually be true...

   I don't understand how talking about something of which you have no knowledge is not lying. I actually live in Egypt, so I know this is nonsense.....

What part of Wikipedia's entry  that I linked to on "Rape in Egypt" is nonsense?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Egypt

Looks to me like you are just another Islamic propagandist, lying to cover up the dismal truth about  reality of life in a largely Islamic country. Just curious - is it you that is creating all the Newbie sock puppets and flooding these threads with pro-Islamic junk one liners? It's okay if you admit to it, it's no big deal.

Of course like all religiotards they will just deny it even if it is right there in their books, clear. No it's not literal, no it's a metaphor, no that's the old testament, no you just didn't understand it. Excuses, excuses and more excuses for their piece of shit books written thousands of years ago by ignorant people.

Your point is well taken. It is possible for a religion to take and otherwise intelligent, curious and honest person, and turn him into a sort of ignorant drone.

Comparing the Islamic view to Christian is interesting. I think anyone from the Christian tradition is more than willing to admit to the faults and failings of it. But Islam? "Oh, zey terrorists not Muslim. No rape, no, very little rape. Very peaceful, Islam."

The problem with denying reality is that after having done that, they can not learn or improve their cultures.

[Limbor]

Hmm, I wonder why rape is so much less common in Islamic countries if they are dangerous for women?

In reality, the Muslim nations have one of the highest rates for rape in the world. But the truth never comes out because less than 1% of the rapes are reported. This is because in Muslim nations, if a rape happens then the probability is that the victim will receive a much harsher sentence when compared to the perpetrator.

are you a Muslim? From where you can know that the penalty of rape victims is more severe than a rapist, can you provide any real evidence? Such as articles or links that you can attach here?
Are you just babbling with nonsense?

http://thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/rape-adultery.aspx

http://www.christianpost.com/news/islamic-rape-gangs-a-global-phenomenon-126107/

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

   Wow, you accusw me of lying with no evidence, and then base an entire argument on the opinion of one 'activist'? Basically saying 'some dude thinks' so it must actually be true...

   I don't understand how talking about something of which you have no knowledge is not lying. I actually live in Egypt, so I know this is nonsense.....

What part of Wikipedia's entry  that I linked to on "Rape in Egypt" is nonsense?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Egypt

Looks to me like you are just another Islamic propagandist, lying to cover up the dismal truth about  reality of life in a largely Islamic country. Just curious - is it you that is creating all the Newbie sock puppets and flooding these threads with pro-Islamic junk one liners? It's okay if you admit to it, it's no big deal.

Of course like all religiotards they will just deny it even if it is right there in their books, clear. No it's not literal, no it's a metaphor, no that's the old testament, no you just didn't understand it. Excuses, excuses and more excuses for their piece of shit books written thousands of years ago by ignorant people.

Your point is well taken. It is possible for a religion to take and otherwise intelligent, curious and honest person, and turn him into a sort of ignorant drone.

Comparing the Islamic view to Christian is interesting. I think anyone from the Christian tradition is more than willing to admit to the faults and failings of it. But Islam? "Oh, zey terrorists not Muslim. No rape, no, very little rape. Very peaceful, Islam."

The problem with denying reality is that after having done that, they can not learn or improve their cultures.

It seems to me that there is no obtrusiveness in Islamic states, this is not an indicator of love for one's neighbor. The fact is that Muslims are very aggressive towards Christianity and other people with other views on other religions.

[Bighero76]

Biggest problem of muslims is close mindedness. Every other religion will goto other religions temples but muslims never go outside a mosque. I sense big insecurity among muslims. Most are good people overall but lack liberal views.

Btw do you know until 2000 muslims always voted for republicans in the usa?

[Sithara007]

Biggest problem of muslims is close mindedness. Every other religion will goto other religions temples but muslims never go outside a mosque. I sense big insecurity among muslims. Most are good people overall but lack liberal views.

Btw do you know until 2000 muslims always voted for republicans in the usa?

I don't think that Muslims voted for the GOP until 2000. More than one-third of the Muslims in the United States are African American. And the GOP never get more than 2% of the vote from this racial group. And most of the remaining Muslims are Arabs and South Asians. These people also tend to vote for the Democrat party.