welp. looks like the good profits from XMR are over. ETH is now more profitable again since the diff has more than doubled after the initial drop off point.
was only good for about a day lol. back to ETH.
profits look even to me, xmr uses like half the power of ethhash though so its more profit for me in the long run so ill stay on xmr plus fork the eth devs for faltering on thier asic resistance promise |
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trying it now, seems at least the same speed as enemy , gotta try it on a 1080ti rig yet
i wish these miners showed average hashrate bc with all the diff algos its hard to figure out whats
faster
Hey I am glad you are seeing good initial results!! It is in the default bat file, "-N 600" This will use 600 shares to calculate your hash rate shown on the Accepted lines. You can change 600 to anything you would like. Higher = more stable hash rate display Lower = Changes more rapidly. so far Im happy with it , can it do .05 fee instead of 1% seems to be at least as fast as the enemy miner but has more features like the daily profit. Also seems a bit more stable . I only get 15mhs on my 1080tis , should i try a higwr intensity? mem is +300 core is +100 |
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Loving this XMR profitability. Hope it lasts for a couple weeks.
I think that unfortunately hashrate will redistribute much faster than that. Supply is very elastic. im literally getting almost 4x+ what I was a few days ago.... So, until people stop turning more machines onto XMR, it will lower a bit... but, even still... I can almost generate 1 XMR a month now; compared to being able to generate almost .01-.05/mo. Loving this XMR profitability. Hope it lasts for a couple weeks.
I think that unfortunately hashrate will redistribute much faster than that. Supply is very elastic. Is anyone mining xmr with nvidia? I'm fully nvidia, on rvn at the moment, and wondering if it's worth switching… see my post a few above this one; it has a link for phil to an XMR binary that has no devfee. For the next few weeks, Ill probably be only mining 100% XMR now, and not RVN + zpool coins as I have been. why would you waste your hash? nvidia cards are great at raven , they are better at eth than they are at xmr a 1070 does 600 to 650 max on xmr and will do 9k on raven makes no sense bro |
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And in 2 weeks they will be no coins to mine
Congrats to ASIC companies
fork em all , all smart devs will fork soon imo to flush out asics |
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trying it now, seems at least the same speed as enemy , gotta try it on a 1080ti rig yet
i wish these miners showed average hashrate bc with all the diff algos its hard to figure out whats
faster
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ASIC A3 only make a little under 10$ per day right now and ROI has come from 1-2 months to the whole year with power price included, not worth it
Man, the ROI just collapsed ever since the release of A3. Couple that with general bear market trends, just makes mining the more difficult. Tough timing imho. Current yield USD6.25/day. I live in MI and its about $3 after electricity.... Bitmain really flooded the market and there was no need for a second batch. Anyone who bought the first batch got screwed and were better off waiting to buy batch 2 to get screwed. Idk what you mean batch 1 make back what it costed. I bought two batch one and the mined over 300k sia batch 2 were the idiots they should have know |
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Bitmain is not just selling the asic miners for the non asic resistant coins they are also mining at the same time the non asic resistant coin with the hardware much more stronger then what they are selling at the market, these way they profit from the coin twice by mining it and by selling hardware to people who want to buy it. By doing so they can manipulate the prices of the coin itself by adding their super powerfoul hardware to mine coin whenever there is a price jump of the coin and they can manipulate the prices of their hardware , they will keep the stronger hardware to themselfs and they will release weaker hardware to masses, and that way they will always be able to release new stronger asics for the specified coin and making the older asics ussles, and people will have to buy the new stronger asic miners or fall behind. These all cant be done with gpu-s mining. In gpu mining new more powerfoul hardware is coming slowly and they cant replace your weaker gpu that easily.
Im fully woke now , done with asics idgaf how profitable they are |
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Looks like the eagle has landed for the Monero-v7 profitability...
100khs is giving 0.0266 BTC at Nicehash Crypotonite V7 marketplace.
It's that 80% missing hashrate no longer dumping earnings me thinks.... Or, letting the price rise while they turn on machines slowly in secret..... rentals have spiked too... the greed has set in. for me I am not interested in collecting the coin, just cheap BTC paid upfront from "rich" Nicehash rentors I went 2x to 3x in earnings over just xmr this is a boost for a vega miner Regretted selling the 10 Vegas I had sometime ago.... :-( Vega cards may go back up in price. don’t regret selling your vegas, i have six two died and will rma the other fourwork but hashrate drops from 1950 to like 1500 after a while and i did a whole bunch of work with power play just to get voltages dowb just buy rx580s 8g they hash near 1k use like 75 watts or so and are. hassle free |
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they are definitely mining equihash and lyra
i think going forward they will be more sneaky and slowly push the hash rate
up hoping to better hide thier asics, monero plans to fork every six months which
is the best option to keep them out.
let them either develop thier own gpus or build rigs like everyone else
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There are a shit load of GPUs mining ETH and other coins out there. The moment this became as profitable as ETH for RX580s and similar, it begun drawing them. Instead of Monero mining going insanely profitable as some expected, I think all GPU mining will be a speck more profitable, and that's it.
plus I think from this we now know a large portion of the eth hashrates are probably asics as well which cant switch to v7 so i think eth hash rate will only drop say 15 perect mac |
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There are a shit load of GPUs mining ETH and other coins out there. The moment this became as profitable as ETH for RX580s and similar, it begun drawing them. Instead of Monero mining going insanely profitable as some expected, I think all GPU mining will be a speck more profitable, and that's it.
more than a spec, and once electroneum forks as well things should get even better i supect we will see acros the board 20 percent more profits acro the board when all the remaining forks take place i think this fork opened alot of eyes, i think other algo will fork just to flush out the asics |
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According to Whattomine profitability for XMR and ETH is almost the same on RX570 at this moment. It's OK but I was expecting XMR to be more profitable, at least now immediately after the fork.
whattomine isn't taking the actual difficulty into consideration. difficulty should drop more on xmr yeah thats what i was expect as well my god the 30 percent asic figure was not even close wtf that means for eth and zcash probably the same thing |
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XMO is just another coin force by bad players. Bitmain just want to keep its dominance and centralization. Anyone who falls for that 800 hash... Im quite sorry for them. Dominant network should not be measured by total hash but hash distribution. Doest really matter if 1 network has 80% of the hash but only 1 individual holds that 80%. 20% is still dominant as long as it is widely distributed.
^ this |
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im checking other cryptonight coins so far i have not seen a huge spike of hashrate going in them. there are increases but not as much as one would expect after a huge hashrate from monero disappeared. Makes me think that most of the mysterious hashes in monero was caused by botnets.
ETN hash doubled |
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With all of you on this. Not supporting coins whose devs surrender to shitmain. Seen enough from the scumbags to never want to be affiliated with anything they get their greedy grubby hands on... whether SIA, BTC, BCH, whatever. For them to mine secretly on monero for several months and then try to dump their soon to be obsolete ASICs on the average person who can't be a part of the ASIC game it just a typical example.
Or the whole Bitcoin Cash debacle... wasn't enough that they controlled and centralized BTC... anything to get their hands on more money. Remember Antbleed and ASIC Boost? The SIA thing was low too. But that's what SIA devs get for trying to be open and honest about their ASIC intentions in the crypto space... getting blindsided in the middle of the night by Bitmain on a low market cap coin at that, not to make money, but to screw SIA and their Obelisks for trying to get in the mining game, not to mention all the honest folks that prepaid for Obelisks to try and support SIA's growth and infrastructure.
It's time to take a stand and say no more. If crypto is to be for the average person we have to support projects that are targeted towards and profit the average person, not projects that make the rich richer. I'm very disappointed with ZEC and ETH... as far as I'm concerned they've betrayed the original intent of their projects. That said, my energy, funds, and efforts will be behind XMR, VTC, RVN, and the other projects who stay true to an anti-asic/decentralized vision.
And as for all of you that beg to be fed from the literally used, half-eaten scraps that fall from Bitmain's table... anything for an extra dollar right?
best postvI have read in weeks |
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how can i mine monero with 1080 ti's?
1080ti is more profitable mining raven x16, its double the profit of eth for a single 1080ti x16r is asic resistant too |
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I switched all my rigs to monero and will never mine any coin that will not protect me from ASICS. + the profit on monero will be better then any other coin because by hardforking they remove 80% of asic hashpower from there mining network. THIS IS F....G UNBILIVIBLE. and I believe all the other algos are infiltrated by asics as well or maybe more. What is this? - remember days when you mine .2 of BTC per day. well now is .0008 btc par day WTF.
WAKE-UP
Im with you, its monero for me even if its slightly less profitable than eth, raven devs have also stated they will protect against asics and sumo as well. we definitely need to band together and wake up and smell the roses. PRIVATE asics are bad, they cause centtralizaton ala the big banks we were supposed to be thumbing our noses at when bircoin was launched, it was supposed to be fair and evenly distributed. hard to do that when these fuckers have billions of dollars in ill gotten gains they use to coner the hash rates and refuse to share thier technology. what these asic manufacturers need to be taught is we dont NEED asics , to mine any coin, gpus are perfectly capable and algorithms like cryptonite are quite efficient power wise if written well. every dev should fucking for, just to see what the asic percentage is on thier network. Zclassic is not premined and zencash, i bet they are looking into this |
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Do you think that AMD cards will be completely out of the mining game now due to ethash miners ? What is the future of Vega rigs now ?
Is there any possibility that AMD will manufacture a new gpu with mining in mind ?
Why are you solo-ing out AMD cards? NVIDIA cards are as much affected as AMD card at this time. Difficulty affects everyone regardless and the bitmain E3 is more efficient than both AMD or NVIDIA. Could you elaborate why AMD cards are dead and NVIDIA are not? As far as i know AMD cards are even more power efficient than NVIDIA cards once modded. The E3 is NOT more efficient than a well-tuned GPU rig. It is AT BEST a tossup with a 6 card RX 570/580/470/480 rig, a hair more hashrate at same to a hair more power. It is INFERIOR to a well-tuned GTX 1070 6 card rig which will manage about 190 Mhash/sec at 700-750 watts. My bloody *5* card 1070 rigs are not well tuned (the CPU is usually a FX 8350 soaking up to 95 watts and mining Monero) and still pull 157-158 Mhash at a little under 700 watts. The E3 will make a slow dent in ETH profitability, but it looks unlikely to make a significant dent before ETH goes Proof of Stake - and THAT is when across-the-board profitability on GPU mineable coins is going to collapse for at least a short while as all of those GPUs go searching for new homes. Keep in mind that Bitmain would have to sell over 1.5 MILLION of the E3 to match the CURRENT Ethereum hashrate (then add a few hundred thousand MORE for the other ethash coins). That's NOT going to happen in a few months - even with it's unquestioned "most efficient SHA256 miner in existance" causing the S9 to sell out quickly on each batch, Bitmain hasn't managed to sell THAT MANY of the S9 in the almost *2 YEARS* since it first went on sale (they probably HAVE managed to sell close to *A* Million of the S9, perhaps a little over). With that said, can we shut this thread down and move this over to the MAIN E3 discussion thread, we don't need a half dozen threads on the SAME subject. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3249542.0I dont know why this is so hard to understand, we now know with 100 percent certainty from the monero fisaco that bitmain only sells miners to the public AFTER they are either gona be forked to uslessness or are not as profitable as they were when they privately mined with them for six to 7 months The E3 specs is not the issue here the E3 is OLD OLD OLD get that? if they are selling these dusty soon to be cleaned and repasted pos to the masses , they either fear a fork (doubtful, eth devs have thier heads up thier asses conceraning ming.... they always have) or they are clearing space in thier datorhalla for thier new more powerful miners aka F3 . thats the issue here not the specs on this on year old pos e3 they are dumping on you idiots |
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Ill be switching all my rigs to monero, all my 60 nvida cards are already on raven, fuck equhash and eth
gotta show these asic companies we wont take this crap lying down
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Any point in taking a 48 hour run at it with nvidias, do you think?
i stopoed mining xmr block times are too slow to be profitable |
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