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1061  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stefan Molyneux Youtube Account and 2k Reddit Subs Terminated Today.. on: July 02, 2020, 02:00:10 PM
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Seeing as how social media wasn't even around the last time there were major book burnings (Nazi Germany), I have to wonder what the fuck are you actually talking about. "Secretly happy with the book burning?" What book burning? Where? You're equating videos hosted by YouTube being taken off YouTube with someone's books being forcibly confiscated and then burned. This is a bit retarded of a comparison.

Stefan Molyneux does have books but you're a fucking idiot if you actually think I want them burned.

What's the equal for an ebook to a physical book burning of physical books?

It consists of removing the ebook from availability, which has three primary ways.

A) Not providing the ebook's source in google or other search algorithms.
B) Not providing the ebook when the end user has the correct location.
C) Removing the DNS of the correct location.
1062  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: July 02, 2020, 11:52:05 AM
... running to defend Hunter Biden's actions here is hilarious.

Why? They are only judging him by the standard they apply to their own.
1063  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone... What are your thoughts on it? on: July 02, 2020, 11:38:49 AM
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I do think the best thing that can be done to contain this is pretty simple: Wear a mask when in public, don't visit large groups of people, santizize, and wash regularly. There's really not much more that we can do as a society.....

Sez WHO?

Remember "flatten the curve?" the purpose of that was to not overload the hospitals. We've done that. Now we're in the next phase, where everyone gets sick until we develop immunity or the virus weakens.

Why the fuck are you even talking about masks, groups of people, and sanitizing?

Not sure why you're talking about herd immunity right here, as that's not one of the 'phases' that we're supposed to be going through in regards to this virus. Herd immunity is great to talk about, until you notice that you need like 60-80% of the population to get the coronavirus for it to be effective. Not effective and would lead to many unnecessary deaths.

Masks, groups of people, and sanitizing are still very important. Unsure on what you think is important here when the Southern portion of the US (Florida, Texas, etc) are currently having surges in cases and we just broke the daily record for number of new cases in the US and number of new cases by percentage of tests has been steadily increasing.
So we DID "flatten the curve", and now we're back to people getting the disease, and we're well on the way to herd immunity. Why would you want to push that point off farther into the future? Also you've not taken into account that the virus may have weakened.
1064  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone... What are your thoughts on it? on: July 02, 2020, 12:59:43 AM
I wouldn't go as far to say that this is a marxist disease or that all of this is a conspiracy or something along those lines.

Though I do think all of us do notice that there is a major problem with telling people to social distance, wear masks, not be in large groups, and then allow protesting to go on without mass arresting people who are obviously violating the guidelines set forth by the federal / state governments.

Doesn't really make local businesses that happy when they're already in a rough financial situation that they're not allowed to reopen because of coronavirus, but protesters can continue doing their thing.

Nobody really knows how to contain this covid-19 mess in a way that's practical, so people with authority resort to thinking up guidelines themselves, you can see different states have wildly different social distancing rules and this is the result of mayors and governors and other people in charge having different opinions on what's best for the community.

One thing's for sure, people won't heed a prohibition of gathering in large groups, even if that was enforced by mass arresting, because it will simply make them more angry and resentful. More anger escalates violence.

Maybe local businesses are fined consistently for breaking quarantine rules, though it certainly looks like individual people aren't fined consistently. And if that's the case then it really sucks to be in their position but it does tell us that governors are handling businesses properly.

Back to lurking now  Smiley

Oh yeah, you're totally right on no one really having the 'right' answer on what to do here. I think something that everyone has to remember is that we're all going to have to adjust to a 'new normal' -- a balance between public health and economics. We can't just have 15% unemployment and millions of Americans collecting unemployment benefits forever. It's just not sustainable in an economy.

I do think the best thing that can be done to contain this is pretty simple: Wear a mask when in public, don't visit large groups of people, santizize, and wash regularly. There's really not much more that we can do as a society.....

Sez WHO?

Remember "flatten the curve?" the purpose of that was to not overload the hospitals. We've done that. Now we're in the next phase, where everyone gets sick until we develop immunity or the virus weakens.

Why the fuck are you even talking about masks, groups of people, and sanitizing?
1065  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stefan Molyneux Youtube Account and 2k Reddit Subs Terminated Today.. on: July 02, 2020, 12:54:43 AM
They are not mandating content. They are mandating open access to publish content.

"We're not robbing the bank. We demand open access to the vault."

No, your metaphor is completely fallacious. What are people robbing by maintaining equal access exactly?

No one is robbing anything. Can't you read? People just want access to the vault. Maybe they'll have a barbecue there.

I agree 1000%. They just WANT ACCESS TO THE VAULT. Where did all the goodies from the vault go? Oh, IT MUST HAVE BEEN SOMEONE ELSE THAT TOOK THEM!!!!
1066  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stefan Molyneux Youtube Account and 2k Reddit Subs Terminated Today.. on: July 01, 2020, 11:53:13 AM
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Seems very fucked up to (1) recognize that social media is evil but (2) use it to indoctrinate the "sheep" as long as it's the "correct" doctrine. Would it be ok to run ponzi schemes or sell meth to finance conservative campaigns?



Social media isn't evil by any means but it gives people an amplified voice and removes any filter. Having the cloak of anonymity will void people of any humanity they had left because they face no repercussion for the words they say. Twitter's a good example of hard left groups that tend to be an echo chamber of people recyling the same political content amongst themselves with no sort of scrutiny causing confirmation bias. Then on the other hand Facebook tends to have conservative circles that regurgitate the same brain dead snowflake/libtard memes.

It makes people toxic. Politicians jump on the bandwagon too trying to make good edgy tweets for news bites.
Social media certainly can be evil.
1067  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 'Trump Designates Antifa "A Terrorist Organization"' on: July 01, 2020, 11:51:12 AM
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Putting my conspiratard cap on for a moment: it wouldn't surprise me if Trump's campaign, some right wing group, or even ZeroHedge themselves sent this guy (and others) into a protest to fire some bullets on camera.

Regardless of his actual intentions, I hope they catch him and he faces justice.

He's been caught. Truly senseless behavior, but historical studies of mob behavior should lead one to expect nothing less.

1068  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stefan Molyneux Youtube Account and 2k Reddit Subs Terminated Today.. on: July 01, 2020, 03:14:35 AM
What's the end game?
Ultimate power over the peasant classes..

Seems very nebulous. ~10-15 years ago the social media as we know it didn't really exist. Was it created specifically to control the peasants or did it somehow get subverted? As far as I can tell people voluntarily join it and even give up their privacy for whatever it is they get from it. I would understand advocating against that loss of privacy and against the use of social media in general, but instead we have this bizarre desire even by conservatives to get in on the whole scheme. Something doesn't compute here.

Actually, well, reverse that last statement. This is exactly what computation - computers - are doing.

Software has a way of starting off exciting and innovative, and then as it ages, say at five to ten years of maturity, morphing into total evil. This is new, but we are observing it. Google, Facebook, Twitter, many others. Can one observe a trend over time, and what is that trend?

1069  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stefan Molyneux Youtube Account and 2k Reddit Subs Terminated Today.. on: July 01, 2020, 12:05:26 AM
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I think he might be a real scientist... nutildah?

We were talking about censorship right?
Stripped of his titles over inconvenient truth.. A fine example of censorship..

Wrongthink..

Hello, world of Lysenko!

Science subjugated to politics. Truth is lies, freedom is chains.

History tells us this does not end well.

1070  Other / Politics & Society / Re: John Bolton fired by President Trump - BREAKING on: June 30, 2020, 08:27:26 PM
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I think he's a history nerd that has consumed tons of books and already written two of his own.  If Trump never hired him he'd probably still write #3 and it would probably still be about Trump. (#2 was about Obama).

It's not the same as Scaramucci or Omarosa or Trump or Trump Jr who have ghost writers or at least hand holding throughout the writing process to make them feel like they wrote the book they're getting paid a shitload for.

It reads to me 100% ike a typical ghostwritten book, style of writing could be National Enquirer.

Makes sense considering tabloids are your go to when it comes to science (or anything at all really).

The thread in which I said this, before spoon-feeding you something at your level?

Note that I deleted my post shortly after you scraped it. The reasons have to do with details of the subject and the writers and criticizers, and my personal knowledge of it. No problem, it is only one of many. Discussion of that article and its issues may or may not be relevant to the subject. but relevance cannot be proven.
1071  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stefan Molyneux Youtube Account and 2k Reddit Subs Terminated Today.. on: June 30, 2020, 08:18:30 PM

Here's the problem: he's not a scientist and taking his words as "scientific stuff" is an intellectual failure on the part of those who do. He's a social media personality and professional speaker. Nobody thinks science is "white supremacy." Actual scientists have debunked the majority of his claims and the rest of us can see them for what they actually are: inflammatory nonsense designed to give white supremacists (his primary audience) a boner.

Here's what the professor Molyneux based much of his "research" on has to say about him:[/b]

"These people are just coattail-hangers. They don't have anything new to contribute to the debate - they just try and make the debate spectacular. I've invested a huge amount of time on this issue, read all the best thinkers, and wouldn't think it would be worth my time."
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"I've never seen him in the literature as having made any supplementary points to the points Jensen made, and his reputation is such that one suspects he oversimplifies the debate. You have a limited amount of time in your life, and if you look at what every nut says about every issue, you'll never have time to do anything else."
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But the very same professor that Flynn got the data from, in the very same article you quote from, has a bit more to say.

"...if there's free speech, some people will be naïve enough to endorse views I think are [not rational]… If you were to tell me over the phone today the theory of evolution was wrong and every little fish was created by God, I would think, 'How pathetic.' But I certainly wouldn't try and shut you up. I might think to myself, 'I hope he doesn't get hold of some naïve young person who'll believe him, but I wouldn't stop you.'"


HE SPECIFICALLY DISAGREES WITH YOU AND REDDIT that Molyneux should be suppressed.
1072  Other / Politics & Society / Re: John Bolton fired by President Trump - BREAKING on: June 30, 2020, 05:11:52 PM
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I think he's a history nerd that has consumed tons of books and already written two of his own.  If Trump never hired him he'd probably still write #3 and it would probably still be about Trump. (#2 was about Obama).

It's not the same as Scaramucci or Omarosa or Trump or Trump Jr who have ghost writers or at least hand holding throughout the writing process to make them feel like they wrote the book they're getting paid a shitload for.

It reads to me 100% ike a typical ghostwritten book, style of writing could be National Enquirer.
1073  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stefan Molyneux Youtube Account Terminated Today.. on: June 30, 2020, 05:08:49 PM
...Nobody should be forced to give him a platform if they don't want to.

Actually, yes they should, if they are operating as a non-editorial public data utility.

Bit of the "have your cake and eat it too" problem here.
1074  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stefan Molyneux Youtube Account and 2k Reddit Subs Terminated Today.. on: June 30, 2020, 11:49:55 AM
the rule does not protect groups of people who are in the majority


Right.. So anti-white racism is still just perfectly fine with reddit..
Perfect for the narrative..
And who defines what?

One might be racial type A and for a radius of a hundred miles, find the population was 90% B, C, or D. And in another location, B, C or D have that issue. I can think of having lived in three such areas myself, each with a different far-majority race. Never even considered it a problem. Never.

Reddit, google, Youtube and the like would apply a ruleset concocted in San Francisco and Los Angeles to the entire US, and the entire world. Might be a problem there?
1075  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What happens if Trump looses and refuses to vacate White House? on: June 30, 2020, 03:28:47 AM
Very good question.

What will happen if Trump LOOSES?

Is that like if he gets loose?

Sort of like a mad bull rampaging through town?

Though the china shop? The candy store?
1076  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stefan Molyneux Youtube Account Terminated Today.. on: June 30, 2020, 03:20:31 AM
There are other sites to put videos on and other ways to promote them (did Youtube even promote these videos? Otherwise what difference does it make which site they're on).

But Reddit deleting The_Donald is just savage... I thought that kind of shit is what Reddit is for. That's like Bitcointalk deleting Bitcoin Discussion.

In the end users will either leave Youtube/Reddit or not. Free market should be free.

All of the censorship leans in one single direction, that of supporting liberal progressive ideas and the US Democratic Party.

Censorship - violent mobs - rewriting history...

Any questions about what's going on?
1077  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: June 29, 2020, 10:50:41 PM
"Post-lockdown wedding rules are unveiled: Father can't walk his daughter arm-in-arm down the aisle, couples must wash hands after exchanging rings and receptions are banned"

http://www.scoopyweb.com/2020/06/post-lockdown-wedding-rules-are.html

How much more apparent does it need to get that the Corona virus is about controlling and manipulating people than about protecting anyone before people start resisting these totalitarian measures?

Remember "flatten the curve?" That's over. We did that. What did "flatten the curve" mean?

To spread the infections out over an extended time period so as to not overwhelm hospital capacity.

We're now in the latter part of the game, when everyone may get the virus.

That's reality. Reality is not COVID-THEATER.
1078  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 'Trump Designates Antifa "A Terrorist Organization"' on: June 29, 2020, 05:49:36 PM
... ..yeah the same NYTimes that Maggie Haberman works for Grin Those stories were about to be leaked anyway and it was important they were controlled. You take control of a "controversy" by looking transparent up to the point of being almost biased against while at the same time dissipating gradually.It's a complex technique and very effective on ignorant humans who cannot rationalize or aggregate and correlate information effectively....

You mean, like New Yorkers?
1079  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NATO officials say they were briefed on Russian bounties on US soldiers. on: June 29, 2020, 05:47:25 PM
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"Barry Richard McCaffrey (born November 17, 1942) is a former United States Army officer and current news commentator, professor and business consultant who served on U.S. President Bill Clinton's Cabinet as the Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy.......

So he put a lot of blacks into jail? Don't black lives matter?

This strikes me as a trial run for the total, baseless lies and smears the democrats will float in the several weeks prior to the close of the election of 2020. Because that's what they always do.

This time we can expect it to be far worse than previous.
1080  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NATO officials say they were briefed on Russian bounties on US soldiers. on: June 29, 2020, 04:49:14 PM
I was watching Morning Joe today and a retired US General (General Barry R McCaffrey) was invited on the show. The retired General more or less said that the chance that Trump wasn't briefed on the Russia bounties was probably zero. The retired General insinuated that Trump had to have been briefed on it, especially if the allies of the US were briefed on it.

Assuming Trump was briefed on it, then his decision to try to invite Putin/Russia back to the G7 is nothing short of treason. Trump is truly a puppet of Putin.

A new sock puppet!
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