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1301  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I'm just curious on: December 30, 2022, 11:04:36 PM
is it possible to mine two different coins on an Asic miner

Parallel mining/ split hashrate? possible! merged mining? is also possible but only limited coins that support merged mining such as Namecoin, sys, and a few others that phill mentioned above, there could be more, but the key here, the coin needs to support merged mining, in a nutshell, small coins have merged mining enabled to make their blockchain more secured, their blockchain is referenced in BTC's blockchain, to be specific it's saved as a transition in the BTC block itself.

This gives them a somehow secured blockchain at almost no cost, the downside, all these coins are worth little to nothing, so the rewards are almost nothing, I just checked my mining account on Viabtc (which I longer use), and it has 2.5BTC cumulative mining rewards, some NMC, SYS, EMC and ELA, the current value of all these merged mined coins is below $20, maybe at some point in the past bull cycle they were worth $100, but this was obtained after years of mining on the same pool, would I take $10 for every 1BTC mined? why not, would I bother switching pools just to get them? probably not.
1302  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: How badly can natural disasters stop mining operations? on: December 30, 2022, 10:21:32 PM
Natural disasters are usually regional unless aliens invade planet earth or it's the day of judgment, aside from that, it can't get worse than the China ban except with a U.S ban assuming the U.S owns more than 60% of the total hashrate (China had 50-60% when the ban took place).

Now that we got that out of the way, I don't see how small miners can benefit from this, even if we were to assume a worldwide disaster, small miners don't live in a vacuum, they will be in the same shoes alongside the large miners, right after any difficulty drop, everyone will have the same chances of rushing into the mining business, in fact, the large players will be more ready than the average small miner who sent the miners to his grandmother's garage thinking he would never fire them again.

Large farms play the game a lot differently, they go to the extent of automating everything, at x profitability level change the miner's setting to x, at x profitability overclock the miners, at x profitability shut down the miner, if x coin has better profitability switch to that coin when disaster is over switch the miners on! so without a doubt, large miners will make use of any difficulty drop a lot better than most of us.
1303  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: الحصوص على دومين مجاني لمحفضتك on: December 27, 2022, 01:38:58 AM
يبدو ان الحملة قد توقفت, لقد تلقيت هده الرسالة عن محاولة توتتق حسابي

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او ربما لاني لا استعمل تويتر وحسابي غير نشط ولم اكتب تويتة واحد فيه من قبل؟ على العموم تكلفة الدومين 5$ في حال عدم القدرة على الحصول على الدومين المجاني.

طرق الدفع هي بطاقة مصرفية, باي بال, كريبتو او crypto.com.

بالنسبة للكريبتو يوجد عدة عملات مثل البتكوين والاثيريوم وبعض العملات الدولارية على شبكة erc-20.

وبالمجمل, الفكرة جيدة جدا. شكرا اوميقا.
1304  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: new to all this on: December 27, 2022, 12:09:09 AM
I suggest you to use Bitmain's Apw3 1600 watt power supply, in which was designed specifically for use in bitcoin

Bitmain APW3 is just a mediocre PSU, it was designed to fulfill it's purpose at the cheapest way possible, the failure rate on those models is extremely higher than the other known brands, I can probably build a room with the dead APW3/APW7 that I have, anyone who had a few hundreds/thousands of them will probably be telling you the same, there are other Chinese cheap brands that outperform the APWs, even better if you get something like Seasonic or EVGA, a lot more expensive but certainly for a good reason.

Of course, this is only valid for the 12V 6pin miners like the S9, the new miners require factory PSU or custom made, not so many brands out there but according to reports I see on telegram it seels like some of those custom PSUs that work on the newer gen of miners are a lot better than the stock PSU in terms of durability and even lower harmonics.
1305  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Do you think that Bitcoin is more worth buying than the ASICs? on: December 26, 2022, 11:18:22 PM
I don't have anything against the calculator itself

I know, the part of my comment was supposed to sound funny, but ya, I know, I am not the funniest person you would meet online. Cheesy, honestly, at least that website puts a warning of some kind unlike all the other online calculators I have seen, it does go on with using unstained numbers but ya, still better than just showing the imaginary gains without any type of disclaimer.

1306  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2022 Diff thread. on: December 25, 2022, 10:55:46 PM
And mentioning Core, how nice of them, even being bankrupt they still plan to help:

Well, it doesn't matter anymore, does it? they also said they would keep their miners running while undergoing the bankruptcy process, I think they are filing for chapter 11 bankruptcy, which means they simply are not going to pay the lenders according to plan, no signs of giving up and total liquation yet, I won't be surprised if they get more funds from someone else.


Anyway, the current status :

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Latest Block:   768910  (6 minutes ago)
Current Pace:   89.5406%  (815 / 910.20 expected, 95.2 behind)
Previous Difficulty:   34244331613176.18                           
Current Difficulty:   35364065900457.12                           
Next Difficulty:   between 31685273931422 and 32899899935764
Next Difficulty Change:   between -10.4026% and -6.9680%
Previous Retarget:   December 19, 2022 at 5:12 PM  (+3.2698%)
Next Retarget (earliest):   January 3, 2023 at 6:31 PM  (in 8d 17h 37m 8s)
Next Retarget (latest):   January 4, 2023 at 8:27 AM  (in 9d 7h 32m 54s)
Projected Epoch Length:   between 15d 1h 19m 9s and 15d 15h 14m 55s

A good part of it probably due to the extreme weather in the U.S, the pace will likely pick up once this is over, but sure thing is, no positive adjustment.
1307  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 267 blocks solved! on: December 24, 2022, 05:27:26 PM
Hello.

Let's see if you can clarify this for me.

A S19J 104 has been 44 days without shutdown in CKPOOL and in Dashboard indicates this:

It indicates in the Diff: 91.6K
In the DiffA: 93637514146

If we look in Ckpool it indicates this:

shares: 782833382698,
bestshare: 1033460203823.859

These data have nothing to do in common, can someone explain this data to me?
I also see that in Dashboar the Diffa always goes up but in Bestshare it has been a long time without change....

Best regards,

Diff = the difficulty set the by pool, based on the number of shares you submit when you first connect the miner, the pool will set a number that is small enough to indicate the hashrate and large enough to avoid sending dozen of packets back and forth

Diffa  = Difficulty of the last accepted share, it always changes with every share you submit

on the pool side :

shares  = number of shares submitted (obvious I guess)
bestshare: is similar to the Diffa on the miner status page but unlike the miner status page it doesn't reset with every share you submit, the pool would reset it one a block is found.

if you so happen to hit your bestshare while looking at the miner's status page updated, diffA and bestshare on the pool will be the same.

1308  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Do you think that Bitcoin is more worth buying than the ASICs? on: December 24, 2022, 01:28:02 AM
The problem with all these calculators is that they forget to tell users one tiny thing when trying to force upon them an idea, of either a profit or in the case, of loss.
Looking at the default setting, it's clear what the aim is,  let's extrapolate things cause this will be like this forever

Man, you gotta give credit to the website posted above, honestly, I think it's the most honest mining calculator I have seen in my entire life, if you read the second line of the website it states:

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Smoking Hopium - Making decisions based on wishful thinking

They couldn't have described any better, in fact, he goes further by saying

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Warning! Objects in the rear view mirror only show where you have been.

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Any model is unrealistic and this is no exception, the variables in this calculation will not progress at an even rate, but this is only an attempt to avoid smoking hopium.

Now to be a bit more serious, I'd add to your post two factors that aren't mentioned in most places, are as follows:

1- All trends (including BTC difficulty and price) will be affected by the natural events of diminishing returns and the effect is impossible to guess, so the past average is exactly meaningless.

2- Using averages in mining calculation is plain stupid because while the price can do 200% over 3 years, you won't be able to stand 1.5 years of mining at loss, unlike buying BTC and having to just wait for the action to happen, with mining, you might still be in a larger cycle where profits are positioned to do 10x, but only after 13 months, having already both the gears and got under debt /rent/bills/contracts, even if you were dead sure that in 13 months you will be earning some serious money, you might just not be able to stand on your feet to witness that time.

1309  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Difficulty Thread on: December 24, 2022, 12:56:48 AM
Since it's not even 2023 yet, one of the two who have done it in the past should do it gain and just ignore this thread.

I agree that the OP shouldn't start this topic, not because of the reasons you mentioned, but because this topic has always been philipma1957's idea, it's just annoying to see someone using someone else's ideas and efforts over the years even if the intentions are good, anyone who wants to start a difficulty thread should at least ask for philipma's approval.

Personally, if philipma1957 started one I would only participate in that topic even if I see 20 other topics related but if phill is fine with this topic, and doesn't want to start his own, we can just stick around and see how it goes.
1310  Economy / Reputation / Re: Members of the RedTrust leadership on: December 23, 2022, 11:09:42 AM
I hope this topic will be useful and informative.

I would certainly not bid on that.
1311  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: This store is safe? on: December 21, 2022, 10:30:48 PM
others a little too cheap according to my tastes ...

Probably a scam website, I took a look, and nothing seems too cheap to begin with, could you point out what are the cheap deals listed on these websites and what type of miners are you interested in? I will give you the actual market prices in China and Hong Kong.
1312  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: استخدام المنصات للتخزين on: December 21, 2022, 11:44:35 AM
المنصة لديها أنظمة متطورة لكشف عمليات الغش لكنها تبقى في الاخير مجرد برامج و قد تم الاشتباه في كون ما قمنا به هو محاولة غش. اي تم الاشتباه في كوننا نقوم بتلك العمليات بدون أن يتم الدفع فعلا من أجل زيادة عدد المعاملات في الحساب. و هذا طبعا غير صحيح.

تحديثا لمنشور الاخ خالد بخصوص تجميد حسابه, اود لفت انتبأهكم الى ان انظمة المنصة يبدو انها قد تم تشديدها في الفترة الاخيرة خصوصا بعد  افلاس منصة FTX, اعرف 3 اشخاص كانو يستخدمو المنصة بشكل طبيعي وتم تجميد حساباتهم واحدهم تم تحويل قضيته لهيئة الاوراق المالية الامريكية حول شكوك بمحاولة تبيض الاموال (في الواقع الرسالة التي اراني اياها احدهم كانت تحمل ايميل لعميل FBI وتم اخباره من المنصة انه تم تحويل القضية لمكتب ال FBI وان باينانس لا تستطيع ان تخبره باي تفاصيل حول تجميد حسابه) , العامل المشترك بين الاشخاص هوا استخدامهم ل p2p وبطاقة باينانس, يبدو ان المنصة تتعرض لظغط من الولايات المتحدة والمنصة اصبحت مجبرة بالتدقيق في كل الحسابات.

اتوقع (والله اعلم) ان باينانس تحاول تقديم عدد لابأس به من المسخدمين على طريقة "كبش الفداء" للسلطات حتى لا تعرض نفسها لتحقيقات موسعة, لا اعتقد ان الشخص العادي التي يتملك 5 الاف او 10 الاف دولار يستخدمها فقط للتداول سيكون معرض لمثل هده الاغلاقات, ولكن اي شخص يقوم بتحويل مبالغ كبيرة ويستخدم P2P او اي تحويل له علاقة بعملات البنوك سواء ايداع من بنك معين او استخدام بطاقة باينانس سيكون تحت تهديد التجميد, الافضل في هده الفترة خصوصا هوا عدم ابقاء اي مبلغ داخل المنصة الا للضرورة.

كان لدي بعض العملات المستقرة على المنصة (ليس مبلغ كبير) ولكني قمت بتحويلها الى محفظة خارجية لكي لا اشعر بتأنيب الضمير في حال حدث اي شي لمنصة باينانس, اعتقد في حال صمدت المنصة لمدة 3-6 اشهر, يعني ان الخطر قد زال, اما مايحدث الان من ضغظ السلطات على المنصة يمكن ان يؤدي الى انهيارها او استمرارها في غلق الحسابات لتبين للسلطات ان المنصة تتبع القوانين, في كلتا الحالتين شخصيا ارى ان ترك العملات هناك امر خطير جدا في هده الفترة.
1313  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Bitmain new S19 pro firmware "enhanced by 13.6%, reaching 25.5J/T!" on: December 21, 2022, 11:15:41 AM

That's a fan simulator, are you planning on removing the 4 fans and just count on the external inline fan to cool the miner? seems like a good idea but the problem with this approach would be the possibility of over-cooling the miner when not needed, if the room temp is low the miner's software will lower the fan speed, you can't do that with an external fan, unless you get a smart fan which you can control with a temp sensor attached to the miner.

1314  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Bitmain new S19 pro firmware "enhanced by 13.6%, reaching 25.5J/T!" on: December 21, 2022, 12:18:48 AM
The developers of public firmwares... live from that... they earn up to 3% of the hashrate worked... it seems that this time bitmain once again beat them to it!! better efficiency in their new chips.. with their firmware in their own way.. Voltage and frequency!!

I wouldn't say they beat the aftermarket firmware, the report I saw shows the best efficiency at 25w/th with about 20% loss in the total hashrate, Artemis3 mentioned 20w/th, I am sure Vnish folks would probably report similar numbers, of course, you still need to consider the dev fees you pay for those two versions, but auto-tunning will always beat static figures in term of efficiency.

IMO, S19 pro is pretty much effienct by default, the efficiency gains will affect the total earnings for most people with low power rates, a 20% loss in hashrate or even 10% is no joke, it will be good for those who pay higher rates, some serious maths need to do before choosing whether to go for the upgrade or not, the same math that needs to be done when choosing to go custom or not, different things work differently for different people.

Saw the Twitter last night.  Just signed into Bitmain and only firmware I'm seeing is from 12/15 for the Hydro.

There is no need to sign in, just go to https://shop.bitmain.com/support/download
select S19 pro or S19j pro, the latest firmware has (Support S19 Pro low power mode) in it with publish date 19-12-2022.
1315  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2022 Diff thread. on: December 20, 2022, 09:53:06 PM
So it seems like my previous guess of starting the new epoch with a very low pace is coming true, the hashrate that left in the last 2-3 days of the previous epoch was pretty huge, and so far we have these numbers.

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Latest Block:   768267  (a minute ago)
Current Pace:   94.2071%  (172 / 182.58 expected, 10.58 behind)
Previous Difficulty:   34244331613176.18                           
Current Difficulty:   35364065900457.12                           
Next Difficulty:   between 33421016879962 and 35031363575342
Next Difficulty Change:   between -5.4944% and -0.9408%
Previous Retarget:   Yesterday at 5:12 PM  (+3.2698%)
Next Retarget (earliest):   January 2, 2023 at 8:34 PM  (in 12d 20h 56m 44s)
Next Retarget (latest):   January 3, 2023 at 1:51 PM  (in 13d 14h 13m 53s)
Projected Epoch Length:   between 14d 3h 22m 30s and 14d 20h 39m 39s

I think it's fair to assume a 3% drop in difficulty for this epoch, something to wipe out that unstained hashrate that caused the last 3% increase.

Looking at the profitability chart, it's a lot worse than the price chart, a year ago, the profitability per th was 0.25$, now it's only 0.056$, that's a 77% drop. In fact, the highest we had during the top phase was 0.45$ per th (when many people were paying 15k for S19s), it's now 87% lower, in terms of price it's just 75%, and the difficulty increase is responsible for the loss difference.

We are only 14-15 months away from the next halving, all miners are in a race against time, and some spectacular events need to happen to save the day, if we don't go above 50k before the halving, man, many if not most of those large players will be liquidated, assuming they manage to survive till then in the first place.
1316  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Lottery Mining on: December 18, 2022, 11:02:12 PM
Ja. Main point here is that the solo pool should automatically payout. No 'withdrawal' initiated by you needed. In the case of -ck solo pool it is automatically sent as part of the coinbase, in the case of Kano's solo pool payout is to the pool wallet and from there immediately sent to your address that you setup when you joined the pool.

The main point here is "trust", the post above talks about a straightforward scam, some scammers will tell you that you did manage to hit a block but you need to send some BTC for the fees because the block is stuck on the pool's wallet, that's just one out of the so many lies they can come up with it, the payment method is some irrelevant, a direct payout written in the coinbase or an automation process at the pool side after the block reward has been sent to the pool's address both should be safe as long as the pool operator is honest.

So far, the two good pools we know off are Ckpool and Kano.
1317  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Solar Powered Farm on: December 18, 2022, 10:17:34 PM
Sorry guys this might be a little bit out of topic, and maybe a newbie question but it is possible to run 24 hours when mining with solar panel? Today electricity is getting expensive, as far as I know that we need a battery to store but this need a huge battery and since miner hardware is very hungry and battery, converter is expensive too  Cheesy is it efficient? using solar panel

To run a small system like OP is intending, a small miner like a USB type of miners where consumption is below 200w, it's doable with solar and batteries, but to run large asic miners like all the new models out there which require 3KW and above, without doing any math I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that you can't run them on batteries and still make any profit.
1318  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Solar Powered Farm on: December 18, 2022, 12:18:02 AM
you are correct.  so he needs 3 batteries.

It would be cheaper to get 2*150A batteries instead of 3*100A batteries, it would also be easier to set up and requires less cabling since he is going to need to wire them in parallel, although I think it would be wise to run them in series and get a 24V inverter instead of the 12V, a 24V system has a few advantages over 12V system, with the exception that you can't expand your batteries with 1 battery at the time, you will always need to do them in twos.
1319  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2022 Diff thread. on: December 17, 2022, 11:23:11 PM
I suppose the 16.6k price down from 18.4k price is why.

I don't think so, the price was at the same current level at the beginning of this difficulty epoch and yet we saw the pace was 107% and held strong for a couple of days, even before the small price increase, hashrate started going down on the 13th of this month, ironically one day before the top of nearly 18k.

Avg block time on the 13th was 8.7 minutes, it has been increasing since then, got to 11 minutes on the 17th, which suggests the drop in hashrate has been happening before the price.
1320  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Share Filtering on: December 17, 2022, 10:12:29 PM
but in reality the shares are controlled by the pool, so obviously the solution is much simpler.

shares are not controlled by the pool, they are controlled by the miner, however, the outcome of those shares is made up of a few aspects, one being the coinbase transaction, which tells the mining/non-mining nodes who gets the block rewards.

So even if you managed to somehow broadcast that shares outside of the pool, the payout will still go to that pool if it contains their btc address in the coinbase transaction, they only reason the pools pays you BTC for shares you submit is that fact that your share contains their btc address as the payout address if the address is anyone else's they will simply reject the share.


Or mine at a pps+ pool where you know what they will pay in advance.
I would be more worried at this point about small PPLNS pools going away and all that time and hash being wasted then anything else.

There seem to be more issues with using PPLNS pools even the large ones, one of the largest Non-PPS pools had a bad month last month, something like 20% less rewards throughout the whole month, some people say this is bad luck, some say it's bad software, it could be anything for all I know but it wouldn't change the outcome.

If it was bad luck, with profitability being this low, a 20% drop in rewards is probably going to hurt most miners, also, I tend to believe that pools that offer PPS payouts have more reasons to continuously check their code/servers and every tiny aspect of their infrastructure because every block the pool loses will have to be paid from their own pockets, pools that play by the "if we find blocks we pay you, if we don't we don't" have fewer incentives in keeping everything in a perfect shape.

Of course, it doesn't mean they will intentionally lose blocks because they still want to get the fees, since they pay for employees and servers, but they are not under enough pressure in many cases, I would still point out the fact that there are likely better built and maintained PPLNS pools than some PPS pools but why would I count on that? what reasons do I have to take any risks when I can pay slightly more fees to know in advance that I will get x btc -+1-2% for the next 2016 blocks whether the pool had a software bug or a node server go down?
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