Suppose away. Have I told you already I don't give a flying fuck about what you may or may not suppose?

Regarding the statements above by Lizzard and others, regarding Patrick Nosker, the guy is sinister alright so nothing is off the table. More significantly, people should remember that when the very strange theft of VRC at Mintpal, the first move he made was transfer half or so of his coins to Mintpal... he offered me, via PM, the most absurd "explanation" ever: He had moved them there so if there was any movement (supposedly a sell off attempt of the 8 million coins robbed-, his (Nosker's) coins will be there so he would assume all the BUYS and all the SELLS... yep, THAT absurd of an explanation...

Anyway, personally I believe the shortcomings of the guy are of deeper natures and worse consequences than being a scammer, more like personality traits that make him a little frustrated dictator, on one side, and a thoroughly not trustable individual, on another... among others.

IE's has cozied up to Nosker and Doug and I believe it was Mintpal who asked Nosker to review the code of BYC, not IE. I could be wrong, of course. Not very relevant except for the fact that the lack of any and all action in VRC, while they are "helping" (being paid to do work) on other coins, that benefit only their pockets and not at all -the opposite would be true- VRC, means clearly what has been evident to us on THIS forum for a long time already: The stooges have nothing in the tank left. So, with months (many) before ANYTHING comes out of the SuperNET connection (and then only an absurdly obsolete and overall negative decentralized cloud), the fall in price will continue...accentuated by the fact that more and more rats will be jumping ship.

As I have stated, I would be looking to average down -and pocketing some slim gains- from the mid-to-high 3s downwards. No future at all on this one, but a couple of rebounds seem inevitable to me, of the 35-40% kind (from those levels I am willing to re-enter). I, of course, could be wrong, right MAD?

Typing on phone is hard. And I am not in the habit of proofing, usually there's no need. for it...

I thought I made clear that everyone, including cheerleaders and retards, are welcome here. Even you are. But it has nothing to do with me; it's the nature of free speech which the OP obviously supports.

And, as far as I am concerned, "yo soy boricua pa que tu lo sepas" is as welcome as anyone else here... as long as we have things quite clear: He is one of the faces of The Black Hand and therefore every coin he's involved in is, by definition, a scam. Once that out of the way, he can post whatever he wants. Just like everyone else.

@amsterdamer

Congrats on finally getting a job. That said it would seem even cheerleaders prefer these forums to "keep the conversation going", rather than your censored, shiny new ones so you are welcome to keep on trollibg at will, just be awsre thst absolutely no one here gives a flying fuck about anyghing you may post. Here or anywhere.

I am going to assume the the black hand, throuhh you, is in  control of that shitcoin of yours so thanks for the contribution to yhe subject but I would remain away from this thread ig I werer you.

Question: What objective reasons do you have to say that? If he hasn't been able to do so in many months, what makes you think he will be able to do it... eventually (and I mean before we all are dead and buried)?

There you go... you go first and buy a bunch ok?  Ups, sorry, I understand...

Endearing...

Follow the path of Pinkcoin, because both are arriving at the same point real son... this one way faster than the other joke.

Sorry but I don't know who are you talking about... Wiener? who has supposedly "screwed" Kelly? and how? The code is a copy/paste job, it doesn't matter much at all. Kelly could start an exact copy of NAUT tomorrow is he somehow has lost direct access and control of the github. And I am pretty sure he would have been honest about it and told everyone for, if that is true, NAUT is done and will go to zero in no time. And Kelly could not salvage much of whatever he and his stabilizing fund is there, so I am not going to believe that at all.

I believe he is embarked on creating a POW that should have been a matter of a few hours already instead of many months, which will bring very little additional value to the coin. Lets be honest here: The ONLY value of NAUT is the name of Brian Kelly, his track record and the fact that the coin will be positioned number 1 to be regulated while most others will be outlawed when regulation arrives. This is not a small achievement given that there's nothing else "clean" around in crypto.

But let's value what NAUT has and forget about pipe dreams in technology that NAUT simple neither has nor needs.

4 days left and this is starting to look... not good at all: Still nor working platform or any kind that can be seen and tested, obviously less than half the minimum required amount raised in the ICO (not much more is coming, obviously, a couple NTC at the most... unless we are talking left hand pays the right... and, in no drastic measures are taken and quick, this once promising project will become a disaster.

At this point everyone with any common sense should know that there's no way even 2 million coins are going to be sold. And, equally, there's only one way to rightfully  do this thing: Distribute the over 8 million coins + bergstake among the investors than bought that 1.7 million.... so it will all come to the original -and only good- way of distributing the coin. That has to be announce as immediately as possible and surely would mean quite a rush of new investors wanting to be part of that action. Otherwise, like I said, a disaster in the making.

And it is not early to make those changes, by any stretch of imagination, the clock is ticking...

Why do you hate to agree with me??

Its a bit more worrysome than than... it's downright scary since the only -and then minimal- buying support seems to be a 5485...

Somebody seems to know what the rest ignore...

But today it broke the $100k market cap, the "stabilization fund" doesn't stabilize anything and this coin will soon become, unless something of significance changes quickly, just another side-show, copy-cat joke of a crypto project.

Any ideas Brian Kelly?

Paging Mr. Kelly... paging Mr. Kelly...

This was indeed a mess. But I am sorry the Vericoin comparison doesn't apply. This was going in the RIGHT direction while Vericoin is going, clearly, in the WRONGEST direction possible. James has lost his marbles there. As a matter of fact, after doubling it in price upon arrival and for just a couple of days, the coin has lost 80% of its price since that mini-high. And going south.

I really cant understand how they let this happen, with the entire market clearly telling them -and James- that they are on the wrong path. The decentralized cloud nonsense is not only absurdly obsolete and unnecessary but also a magnet for the authorities to shot it down and start arresting people. Why continue on that damned path? Beast me. But the market (and the rats that are starting to jump ship every day in bigger numbers), are sending the clearest signals.

That said, I have a few order in the mid to high 3s that I expect to get filled very soon, maybe even tonight. That's where part of my intended investment  in BYC is going... not because I believe VRC has a future, it doesn't but because, in the mid/high 3s I believe it can have a nice rebound and if I am very lucky, I will be able to pocket and easy 30% gain.

Unless there's a 180% turn around, that duck is dead.

At the 3700 level, I'm going to start buying some... couple of pants-worth at a time. To average down...

Some rats are indeed starting to abandon ship...

On another subject, the inimitable Lootz (50% of that dynamic "asset" duo Kev&Lutz), who has UK and me pre-emptively banned in his censored thread -as is either UK or me would ever have any interest in posting on a censured thread or on anything even remotely close to where lootz may ever be-, has actually deleted a post by Scott in which he stated that both UK and me were welcome to the shiny, new forums... as long as we would behave, of course...

You cannot possibly invent these things, they are just too unreal...

Thank you Ryan for doing the right thing.

Ah delusions... IE's just posted he believes "...more people will buy (above 50k sat) than will sell into the wall (at 50k sat)". Ok IE, once again, you are going to get religion... and pay the price for not HAVING DONE, IMMEDIATELY, WHAT YOU ENDED UP (BEING FORCED TO) DO. I can give you a forecast and see, in a few hours, who get closer to the reality... not that it will achieve nothing for you will always "know better": A lot of people is going to want and get their money back. A lot of those 80BTC you sold under false premises. And a very few people, extremely few, are going to buy a bit of BYC.

You are going to be left with your only constituency: The dozens of captcha-fillers with no money whatsoever that you insisted in making "the BYC community". You had a golden opportunity of not only increase your credibility and have a very successful (and profitable) crypto project but also bring in the support of serious members of the crypto community. Instead, you chose to try to please the captcha-fillers and ruin what was left of your credibility (which was very little, after so many self-destructive activities in the past). But, of course, you  STILL "know better".

Like I said, you are about to get some more religion; I'll remind you tomorrow when the entire deal is done.

In general I agree, but it is a matter of semantics only unless proven otherwise: Only question here is: Has IE benefited from the over 43,000 BYC mined in the first 36 hours? If he really wants to come clean -and I believe he does- he has to show that he hasn't, that's all.

Otherwise, by will or forced by Bittrex he has done the right thing, finally, as I hoped he would. He should have made this decision within MINUTES, instead of all this self-destructive brouahaha that is his unfortunate trade mark. I told him, within minutes, the problem AND THE SOLUTION. As usual, he "knew better". Got a lot of people angry, lost the real support of investors like me that were behind the project and is left, sadly, with a bunch of capcha-fillers with no money than will sink BYC the moment it starts trading and drive it to oblivion. What an opportunity wasted!

Anyway Iconic, I believed in the project and through advice and financial support, I tried to help YOU. Instead of appreciating it and valuing it and acting on it for YOUR BENEFIT, primarily, you, as usual, chose to play the ridiculous part of lying and negating the evident or pretending that you did not offer what it was written you offered and everyone was guilty of not understanding. Your usual trade-mark play-victim behavior that has destructed all your credibility... even when, ultimately, doing the right things or what you perceive it is the closest you can get to the right thing. Happened with the Wall Street event affair, with the Libertycoin one and now with this mess.

There's no future on betting on you, sorry.

Ah one more thing: As it is your habit, you also deny responsibility in having people with more than legitimate concerns banned from CoinBlab. You KNOW this is not true and we have been banned AT YOUR REQUEST. Not that I give a flying fuck for the site but, for once, fucking MAN UP, admit responsibility and have everyone's account reinstated, ok?

You may choose to believe differently but there is a BIG difference. And you know it: It was de facto IMPOSSIBLE to return the donations to the donors, you do understand that, don't you? You know, people sending donations from account in exchanges that are impossible to locate?

If you take this as me defending him, you have bigger problems than an agenda or misunderstanding: I put him in THE WALL OF SHAME for not returning the money, NOT to the donors but to the community either through the foundation or though some escrow. That was is and always would be unacceptable... does that sound like a defense? Furthermore, I only know of his original intention of giving the money to charity, I don't have corroboration of that actually happening which is the opposite of defense.

Even furthermore, I believe what he is doing so far regarding BYC is a mess (but NOT a scam, unless there's something else not yet apparent) and a mess created by him and his plain, vain stupidity, totally unnecessary and of which he is 100% guilty. Does than sound to you as a defense? If he doesn't refund or relaunch, he's done in crypto and, as Christopher Bouzy a lot of people from now on is going to be very wary of entering in any kind of relationship with him, so it goes way beyond crypto. Does that sound like a defense of his outrageous antics?

But he hasn't scammed anyone just yet. And that is bot only not a defense but a clear statement of facts.

Just like it is outrageous pretending otherwise, like you and a few others do.

And I am done with this side of the subject. Enough of engaging retards.