Is my imaginary friend imaginary?
um... yes If he is imaginary, how is it that he could give me such good answers that you can't rebut them?
Why the fuck would I want to rebut answers from your imaginary friend? I don't argue with the tooth fairy or Santa Claus either, ftm. Too bad you like to live in your feeling of being in control. It's a good feeling, as long as hard times don't show up.  Did your imaginary friend tell you that too? I'm not in control of anything that really makes any difference, except for maybe silly twats on these boards. Not that that's any big accomplishment or I really care one way or the other. Nahhh, hard times haven't shown up yet, but maybe they will when your imaginary friend smites me for not bowing down to his almightyness, but tbh, I'm not holding my breath.... You, because of your lack of loving God causes yourself to write things against God. God doesn't want you to keep on smiting yourself this way, but if you persist, He will let you smite yourself all the way to your big self-smite... Hell. Back to threats of tortures in hell? Isn't it a bit too early? First, you should have explained to him how he can be saved if he only listens to his imaginary friend etc. |
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You keep saying eye witnesses, there is no alive eye witness that has witnessed god, therefore you are just trusting a book.
Oh come on, now! Now you are trying to tell us that history that is recorded never happened. No Abraham Lincoln, right? No George Washington, right? All the courtcases we have on file from the early 1800s are entirely made up, right? When you look into the kind of people the nation of Israel is/was, you will find that they are some of the absolute best recorders and preservers of the record regarding family and nation history. Thank you for those examples. The huge difference is that we have thousands of different documents from famous people that lived 200-300 years ago. You only have 1 book, the bible, talking about illogical things like talking snakes and other insane things. We know Isaac Newton exists not only because we have paintings of him but also because of the thousand of documents about him and his research. Someone must have done that research regardless if it was someone called newton or not, that's a fact. There is no research in the bible, there are also tons of other books talking about magical and mystical stuff, what's your criteria here? The book with a lot of copies is the real one? Thank you for those examples. The Bible is extremely strong, and shows that God is working in the hearts of people through the Bible. How? The billions of copies. The billions of people who, with Bible knowledge, understand that God exists.... the Bible record that shows true history because it has always been the strongest book in the hearts of people who believe. How strong is the strength of Godly people with the Bible? Way stronger than any belief in any other writing. Not just a little stronger so that one would have to say something like, "Well, some book has to be strongest." Rather, the Bible is way stronger by many times. How is this shown? Again, in the multitude of its copies. The biggest showing of this is that there are hand written copies or parts of copies, of the New Testament, from as long as almost 2,000 years ago, in the range of 25,000 copies. No other book comes even close. In addition, if there were no easy method of copying books like the printing press, there would be no science of today. The Bible would be stronger than ever, because it would continue to be copied because of its strength in the hearts of people who were moved by it so strongly that they copied it. But science would not even exist because of its weakness. What is the strength of the Bible that makes people want to copy it? The strength is the Holy spirit working in the hearts of people, to show them that the Bible is true, and real, and powerful. Science is only dabbling in what is happening in the universe. The Bible is from God Who made and understands all the workings of the universe. The way this is shown is that the Bible has power in people. Science doesn't have this power because it doesn't know how to move people. Science doesn't have the knowledge of how to move people spiritually, but the Bible does, because the Bible has more basic science in it than any science writing. Why doesn't most of standard science acknowledge things like spirit and soul? Because modern science is so weak that it can't get a handle on them to measure and manipulate them. But the energetic distribution of the Bible shows that God has built the knowledge of soul and spirit right into the structure of the Bible. The Bible is truth. It is a true record. Its strength in moving people shows this. Sure, science might play with a few things that are under the control of people. But God controls even this, so that His desires are the outcome. Guess what I am really doing with this post? I am showing you how the Bible shows that it has power and strength, and that it is truth. But I am doing it in such a way that you won't understand the strength of the Bible unless you really want to. You won't understand because you don't want to, but if you wanted to, then you would. Btw, this is only the beginning of the ways that the Bible can be shown to be way stronger than any other writing, for truth and accuracy, and that it is the Word of God. You are delusional that is why you are defending a book that cannot be defended. Christianity was spread by the SWORD and FIRE. You not only don't know much about science or history but your own religious dogma. Someone has brainwashed you very well. I am not sure you'll ever recover from it. You are a close-minded simpleton and a dangerous radical. |
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This is the same for science. The differences are, The Bible says it straight out and people believe or don't. Science papers essentially says that they don't know if they are right, but people believe them anyway. So, which is more of a religion? Bible or science? Show me one pregnant virgin or one talking snake. It is a fucking fairy tale. Why can't you understand this? You seem to be able to understand more complex issues, but with this simple fairy tale, you seem to have some trouble. Do you need help? It is self-evident, no? Anyone with non-zero critical thinking skills can see it. Why can't you? Show me that science really knows that the universe is billions of years old, or that it began by a Big Bang, or that the far distances are as great as science says, or that there isn't some cataclysmic disaster traveling towards the solar system at the speed of light. Remember. Scientists say right in their papers that they don't really know about these things. The Bible is eye witness reports of things that happened. Keep your so-called science religion if you want. Science isn't faulty, because the scientists say that they don't know. It's the manipulators of science knowledge - the university leaders - who are turning science into a cult. ''The Bible is eye witness reports of things that happened.'' How do you know? Told you that, as many as a dozen times or more, in this thread and others. If you want to find out directly, do a detailed study on how the Bible came to be. Other than that, look back in this thread. So what you saying is, you know because you know, because you said so. The Bible is true because it says so. The Bible is an eyewitness account because it says so. God is real because the Bible says so. Pinocchio is real because the book "The Adventures of Pinocchio" says so. Here are more books for you, all based on eyewitness accounts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fairy_talesWhere did I say that? You posted it. Such can be expected from you. You seem to be willing to only accept the science that suits you. Science that shows the solidity of the Bible has all your science theories beat, hands down. Since you seem to be confused, let me help you a little bit. Start here: ------------ http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs.htmlthen go one by one here: ---------------------------- http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html |
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This is the same for science. The differences are, The Bible says it straight out and people believe or don't. Science papers essentially says that they don't know if they are right, but people believe them anyway. So, which is more of a religion? Bible or science? Show me one pregnant virgin or one talking snake. It is a fucking fairy tale. Why can't you understand this? You seem to be able to understand more complex issues, but with this simple fairy tale, you seem to have some trouble. Do you need help? It is self-evident, no? Anyone with non-zero critical thinking skills can see it. Why can't you? Show me that science really knows that the universe is billions of years old, or that it began by a Big Bang, or that the far distances are as great as science says, or that there isn't some cataclysmic disaster traveling towards the solar system at the speed of light. Remember. Scientists say right in their papers that they don't really know about these things. The Bible is eye witness reports of things that happened. Keep your so-called science religion if you want. Science isn't faulty, because the scientists say that they don't know. It's the manipulators of science knowledge - the university leaders - who are turning science into a cult. ''The Bible is eye witness reports of things that happened.'' How do you know? Told you that, as many as a dozen times or more, in this thread and others. If you want to find out directly, do a detailed study on how the Bible came to be. Other than that, look back in this thread. So what you saying is, you know because you know, because you said so. The Bible is true because it says so. The Bible is an eyewitness account because it says so. God is real because the Bible says so. Pinocchio is real because the book "The Adventures of Pinocchio" says so. Here are more books for you, all based on eyewitness accounts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fairy_tales |
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Those who believe and will believe even when it contradicts their speculation and they don’t need proof of anything. I see no reason to dispute whether there is a God or not, because this question has no answer now. Every year there will be more facts in one direction or another.
There has never been a single fact that proves any of the thousands of gods, or other mythical creatures. And there has never been a single fact that disproves god or gods or vampires or other mythical creatures. The reality is we really don’t know what real is. Movies like matrix can not be proven to be true or false. Which simply means any info we get could be true or not true. Since the only fact I know is I don’t know anything for sure I simply chose to believe in certain things. And if I am wrong oh well. Yes there has. For the god of the bible there are tons of facts that disprove him. For instance, the age of the earth or the universe are wrong in the bible. Also many other scientific errors regarding biology. Choosing to believe randomly in stuff is not a good way to live your life. This is the same for science. The differences are, The Bible says it straight out and people believe or don't. Science papers essentially says that they don't know if they are right, but people believe them anyway. So, which is more of a religion? Bible or science? Show me one pregnant virgin or one talking snake. It is a fucking fairy tale. Why can't you understand this? You seem to be able to understand more complex issues, but with this simple fairy tale, you seem to have some trouble. Do you need help? It is self-evident, no? Anyone with non-zero critical thinking skills can see it. Why can't you? |
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Can someone please lock this thread?
God concept is not testable. Science cannot be used to prove or disprove God's existence. Full stop.
Please close this stupid thread. 500 pages of nothing more than pissing in the wind.
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First I would like to clarify that I am neither atheist nor devout Christian. I am an agnotheist (I believe that there is supreme being but he is unknown). I met few friends online who claimed that they were atheist and this is what they told me: God is more wicked than Satan, Satan punished those who are sinners while God punished everyone even those people who have been good to him and spent their life worshipping Him.
I am not a literary expert, but between these two fictional characters, I would say the Christian God is more wicked. God is like a CEO, Satan is just a regional branch manager, appointed by God. God organized his business and is ultimately responsible for all the wickedness in the Christian story. |
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Why would anybody think that there would be no order in a BB? Why would anybody think that there would be no order in the way the atoms and molecules bump into each other in a primordial soup? All af_newbie is doing is claiming a universe that shows a god of sorts. Why doesn't he want to accept the God that shows Himself to us all through the machine workings of machine universe? Is it that he wants to set himself up as God by denying the real God? Which one? There is no evidence that any supernatural beings exist. I am actually in awe to see people even talking about it. The only thing I can conclude that it is a culturally driven delusion.What interests me is how the gravity came about, what happened between the time 0 and 380,000 years, what is the Dark Energy, what is the Dark Matter, why some parts of our observable universe expand faster than others, AI, nanotechnology, what happens below Planck's length/time etc. I don't even know what you mean by 'God'. Physical laws are the way they are. We are assigning the order to them as we learn more about them so that they can be explained in layman's terms. The existence of nature, itself, is the example that a Being with supernatural abilities must exist. Why? We have found nothing in the universe that could cause the universe. Even if you say that BB was a natural event, how do you know? Even Hawking said or suggested that it wasn't. To be able to create intelligence the way it is shows that it was a Being. All that stuff about Dark Energy and Matter is purely speculation. You treat it as fact or near fact, so you show that you have your informal religion therein. Study Electric Cosmos or Electric Universe stuff to see that Electric fits the universe way better than Nuclear, and that Electric shows that Dark does not really exist. The fact that you believe in things like Big Bang, Dark, and billions of years, like they were fact, shows that you don't have the ability to go to the dictionary to find out what anybody means by "God." Physical laws are what they are. But we have so little knowledge about them with comparison to what exists, that all our assignments are almost completely arbitrary. The thing about this is, the scientists say/show this, themselves, in the wording they use in their papers, and in the fact of science theories rather than science laws. Please learn more about the Dark Matter and Dark Energy before you call them a speculation. There are observations done on the subject. We don't know why BB happened. All we know is that the universe is expanding and that it was a singularity at some point in the past. In our galaxy, the Dark Matter prevents our galaxy, our solar system to expand too fast, so our neighborhood is sort of stable for now. If the Dark Matter would not be able to counteract the Dark Energy, our solar system would be ripped apart and we would not be talking about it. How did you come up with the idea that a Being was responsible for the BB? Where is the data to support such a wild claim? If you discovered something new, publish your research and win a Nobel Prize. Otherwise, it is just your half-ass assertion. Just because you want something to be true to validate your delusion, it does not mean it is true no matter how many times a day you say it is true. Please learn more about the Electric Universe to see that there isn't any Dark - https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/about/. We don't know THAT BB happened. There are tons of things that could have easily interrupted space in such a way that they make it look a little like BB happened when it didn't. But we don't know because the only thing we see is light that is finally reaching us from out there. BB, like Dark, is all speculation. Entropy shows that complexity is diminishing. Because of this, whatever created the universe, had to have been way more complex in intelligence and emotion. We don't see anything, not even intelligence or emotion, springing spontaneously into being without a cause. The things that you are talking about are science fiction for which, in some cases, the science "fictionist" received a Nobel Prize. Ask Thornhill to publish his crack-pot theory in the Review of Modern Physics or Nature Physics journals. See what happens. https://journals.aps.org/rmp/https://www.nature.com/nphys/Use the following link to submit your paper on God and Thornhill's paper on the electric universe: https://journals.aps.org/rmp/info/infoRMP.htmlLet me know when it appears in the journal. You should probably look up the definition of speculation. |
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Why would anybody think that there would be no order in a BB? Why would anybody think that there would be no order in the way the atoms and molecules bump into each other in a primordial soup? All af_newbie is doing is claiming a universe that shows a god of sorts. Why doesn't he want to accept the God that shows Himself to us all through the machine workings of machine universe? Is it that he wants to set himself up as God by denying the real God? Which one? There is no evidence that any supernatural beings exist. I am actually in awe to see people even talking about it. The only thing I can conclude that it is a culturally driven delusion.What interests me is how the gravity came about, what happened between the time 0 and 380,000 years, what is the Dark Energy, what is the Dark Matter, why some parts of our observable universe expand faster than others, AI, nanotechnology, what happens below Planck's length/time etc. I don't even know what you mean by 'God'. Physical laws are the way they are. We are assigning the order to them as we learn more about them so that they can be explained in layman's terms. The existence of nature, itself, is the example that a Being with supernatural abilities must exist. Why? We have found nothing in the universe that could cause the universe. Even if you say that BB was a natural event, how do you know? Even Hawking said or suggested that it wasn't. To be able to create intelligence the way it is shows that it was a Being. All that stuff about Dark Energy and Matter is purely speculation. You treat it as fact or near fact, so you show that you have your informal religion therein. Study Electric Cosmos or Electric Universe stuff to see that Electric fits the universe way better than Nuclear, and that Electric shows that Dark does not really exist. The fact that you believe in things like Big Bang, Dark, and billions of years, like they were fact, shows that you don't have the ability to go to the dictionary to find out what anybody means by "God." Physical laws are what they are. But we have so little knowledge about them with comparison to what exists, that all our assignments are almost completely arbitrary. The thing about this is, the scientists say/show this, themselves, in the wording they use in their papers, and in the fact of science theories rather than science laws. Please learn more about the Dark Matter and Dark Energy before you call them a speculation. There are observations done on the subject. We don't know why BB happened. All we know is that the universe is expanding and that it was a singularity at some point in the past. In our galaxy, the Dark Matter prevents our galaxy, our solar system to expand too fast, so our neighborhood is sort of stable for now. If the Dark Matter would not be able to counteract the Dark Energy, our solar system would be ripped apart and we would not be talking about it. How did you come up with the idea that a Being was responsible for the BB? Where is the data to support such a wild claim? If you discovered something new, publish your research and win a Nobel Prize. Otherwise, it is just your half-ass assertion. Just because you want something to be true to validate your delusion, it does not mean it is true no matter how many times a day you say it is true. |
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Is that an admission that your ''proof'' is flawed? Since you are unable to explain why there can only be 1 god and not multiple?
There are actually thousands of gods. BD picks and chooses which one he wants to believe in, if any. Same as every other person on the planet. Gods are picked by the parents who then work hard to brainwash their children the same way their parents brainwashed them. His 'God' was 'chosen' for him at birth. |
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... The complexity and order of the universe machine shows that God exists. Emergence and evolution are natural processes. The universe is nothing but orderly. More like a set of wild explosions and decay. Energy is converted from one form to another. There is no predefined logic in it. No design. No God. Atoms in your body came from the supernova explosion somewhere in the universe and will be drawn to Sun one day, then thrown into space again once the Sun explodes as a supernova. They might become atoms in some alien lifeform that will evolve (has evolved) somewhere else in the universe. Consider an exploding hydrogen bomb. It is wild, untamable, twistingly torturously torrentuous. No scientist can track even one of the particles or energy waves as they travel about in that humongous mass of pandemonium. But... the scientists figured out ahead of time, on paper, using math, just what would be going on in that cascading hell. Everything from great to small precisely follows the laws of physics. All of nature operates and exists exactly perfectly according to all the laws of physics. There is nothing wild in the universe that doesn't precisely and exactly follow every last law of physics. There is only weakling man who can't track all but the simplest and easiest of what goes on in the laws of physics. Very true BADecker. I'm sure af_newbie agrees that the laws of physics are orderly, I think what he was talking about was how our universe came about. In his belief, the galaxies, stars, and planets etc came from big bang (no order), life came from primordial soup via abiogenesis (no order), he wasn't referring to laws of physics. Why would anybody think that there would be no order in a BB? Why would anybody think that there would be no order in the way the atoms and molecules bump into each other in a primordial soup? All af_newbie is doing is claiming a universe that shows a god of sorts. Why doesn't he want to accept the God that shows Himself to us all through the machine workings of machine universe? Is it that he wants to set himself up as God by denying the real God? Which one? There is no evidence that any supernatural beings exist. I am actually in awe to see people even talking about it. The only thing I can conclude that it is a culturally driven delusion.What interests me is how the gravity came about, what happened between the time 0 and 380,000 years, what is the Dark Energy, what is the Dark Matter, why some parts of our observable universe expand faster than others, AI, nanotechnology, what happens below Planck's length/time etc. I don't even know what you mean by 'God'. Physical laws are the way they are. We are assigning the order to them as we learn more about them so that they can be explained in layman's terms. |
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... The complexity and order of the universe machine shows that God exists. Emergence and evolution are natural processes. The universe is nothing but orderly. More like a set of wild explosions and decay. Energy is converted from one form to another. There is no predefined logic in it. No design. No God. Atoms in your body came from the supernova explosion somewhere in the universe and will be drawn to Sun one day, then thrown into space again once the Sun explodes as a supernova. They might become atoms in some alien lifeform that will evolve (has evolved) somewhere else in the universe. I'm doing my best not to laugh so hard, this guy is hilarious! XD You don't believe in God but you believe in aliens (that also evolve). He is so smart he can tweak the words around to say something can be created out of nothing, he defies the science laws that establish that non-living matter cant produce anything with life. Your science is wrong, science doesn't contradict science, your facts are just a bunch of fallacies. I did not say anything funny. The possibility of an alien life is not zero, unlike Zeus (or any other 3000+ Gods). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equationNice straw man BTW. |
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... The complexity and order of the universe machine shows that God exists. Emergence and evolution are natural processes. The universe is nothing but orderly. More like a set of wild explosions and decay. Energy is converted from one form to another. There is no predefined logic in it. No design. No God. Atoms in your body came from the supernova explosion somewhere in the universe and will be drawn to Sun one day, then thrown into space again once the Sun explodes as a supernova. They might become atoms in some alien lifeform that will evolve (has evolved) somewhere else in the universe. |
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You said, there is only ''1 thing outside the universe'' which you claim it's god. If god created the universe, where did he get the ''materials'' to do so? Was it not spontaneously generated?
If I understand this correctly, BADecker is claiming that the universe was spontaneously generated by GodHe does not believe that something can be spontaneously generated by itselfAm I correct BADecker? His argument goes like this: The universe had a beginning and anything that causes something else, has to be more complex (whatever that means). Therefore god created the universe. Problem is, how do we know it wasn't gods, or something else that created the universe? Thank you Astargath for clarifying. Actually, that isn't how the points go. Astargath, being the deceptive troll that he is, didn't mention cause and effect, which covers everything, including free will. For proof that God exists, see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. and you are forgetting that for your cause to exist there would have to be a time the cause could exist in. - Remember, the Great First Cause is something that exists outside of time, because It causes time, as well as the universe. However, you are being caused by a collusion of many causes, to post as you do.Before the Big Bang there was no time, i.e. the cause could not exist. - In simple form, because there was no BB. In complex form, basically what I have been saying all along, that before time existed, there was no time. That which is outside of the universe to cause it, isn't made out of anything within the universe.Sleep on it, eventually, it will sink in. It is hard to imagine a condition without the spacetime we are familiar with. That still remains a mystery. We have observational data that proves that the Big Bang did indeed happen. We have no clue what happened between time 0 and 380,000 years but new studies of gravitational waves will shed light on that period as well. As to the "outside of the universe", well, your guess is as good as mine. Maybe there is no outside. What you see is what will eventually collapse into a singularity and another BB will produce a different version of our universe. Saying that some "magician" started this energy explosion raises more questions than it answers. It anthropomorphizes the solution. Another possibility is that we are just a massive black hole that exploded somewhere in the cosmos and created our universe. Maybe that is why we have Black Holes in our universe. Just a common feature of the larger cosmos. |
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Like I said before, we differ in a way we perceive the reality around us.
I am looking at what it is.
You are looking at what it could be.
Here is a video I think you might enjoy af_newbie. Its an old paper of CS Lewis the author of the Chronicles of Narnia and other works narrated and put in a video. I think does a good job of highlighting the differences in the way we look at the world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9fR1vSxNEQ&list=PL1mr9ZTZb3TXLlFRLu7mffDdfpUWo6Vl5Hmm, so according to him, I am making an honest mistake. LOL. Except, I know that Christianity cannot be possibly true. Pregnant women are not virgins. Nobody can come back from the dead. And countless stories in the Bible that are just too stupid even for the children's fairy tales. Talking snakes, global flood, followed up by the ground zero incest party, living in the whale stomach, etc. etc. Not to mention slavery, killing, and more killing. 6 days creation, 6000-year-old, flat Earth, nonsense upon nonsense. BTW, whom did Cain marry? Never mind, there no point of discussing Christianity or any other religion. If you want to shoot the breeze about how the life started on Earth, how the universe is so complex, what will happen in the end, what is Black Energy or Black Matter, I am all ears. But discussing religion loses its luster. It was fun to make jokes about you guys, but I have to be honest with you. It is not fair to you guys to make fun of you. You guys need medical help, I truly believe so. I feel sorry for you so I will stop making my usual jabs at religious nonsense that is obvious to anyone with half a brain. |
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You said, there is only ''1 thing outside the universe'' which you claim it's god. If god created the universe, where did he get the ''materials'' to do so? Was it not spontaneously generated?
If I understand this correctly, BADecker is claiming that the universe was spontaneously generated by GodHe does not believe that something can be spontaneously generated by itselfAm I correct BADecker? His argument goes like this: The universe had a beginning and anything that causes something else, has to be more complex (whatever that means). Therefore god created the universe. Problem is, how do we know it wasn't gods, or something else that created the universe? Thank you Astargath for clarifying. Actually, that isn't how the points go. Astargath, being the deceptive troll that he is, didn't mention cause and effect, which covers everything, including free will. For proof that God exists, see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. and you are forgetting that for your cause to exist there would have to be a time the cause could exist in. Before the Big Bang there was no time, i.e. the cause could not exist. Sleep on it, eventually, it will sink in. |
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The Truth of God can indeed be tested. To do so requires extrapolating and determining the effects the belief has on every other belief one holds and then testing that entire complex against the alternative complex centered on around a disbelief in God.
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LOL. The same can be said about "The Truth of no God". Looks like a lot of hand waving, nothing tangible. Like I said before, we differ in a way we perceive the reality around us. I am looking at what it is. You are looking at what it could be. |
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Yes you can call me a racist, but is that a bad thing? No, it's natural to seek out other people that are close to you genetically speaking. Studies have shown that people are much more willing to help others with social programs if it is their own race. Europe is being overtaken and whites are becoming the minority in their own countries. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR3x0kOJdMMYou know..I grew up in the City as a white boy surrounded by blacks and Puerto ricans. I was picked on,Bullied because of my white skin. I was called Craker,Honkey,White Boy and other names. The weird part about this was My sister was Black and we encountered the other side of the spectrum of Racism too. My sister and our siblings were called Niggers,Nigger lovers Etc. My best friend was black who was killed(Run over by a racist) while coming to my house in 1982. Go figure...My life involved by both Black and White with no hatred towards any color or race but was subjected to both sides of the spectrum of racism. Yet i don't have the "Racist" mentality you have. what drives the anger in you? Did you grow up in the city to have this hatred inside you or did you "Experience" a Black on white thing that has distorted your views? What is the hate for that fills you? You grew up in a multicultural society. He did not. He is not used to people who are not white. That is why it is hard for you to understand him. I don't think he hates non-whites, he just does not identify himself with non-whites. He feels they are not human because all his life he only interacted with white humans. Imagine if you were an alien who grew up on a planet Kolab and you and everyone you ever knew or came in contact with had a green skin, and you came to Earth and saw a white person. You would probably think they are alien, ghostly looking. That is why he sees a monkey when he looks at a black person. It takes quite a few years to re-train your brain to think otherwise and you have to be open-minded. I bet many Africans here would agree that it was a shock to see a white person face to face for the very first time. Wow. I had to Re-Read what you just said. Not only did you comment about his "Limited" OP about being as self described Racist....You Elaborated with your own thoughts and views. Where did he call a Black person a Monkey? Where did he say they were "Not Human"? I guess a few moments on a keyboard reveals what your mindset is. I was talking about the guy in the video. Watch it. |
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Yes you can call me a racist, but is that a bad thing? No, it's natural to seek out other people that are close to you genetically speaking. Studies have shown that people are much more willing to help others with social programs if it is their own race. Europe is being overtaken and whites are becoming the minority in their own countries. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR3x0kOJdMMYou know..I grew up in the City as a white boy surrounded by blacks and Puerto ricans. I was picked on,Bullied because of my white skin. I was called Craker,Honkey,White Boy and other names. The weird part about this was My sister was Black and we encountered the other side of the spectrum of Racism too. My sister and our siblings were called Niggers,Nigger lovers Etc. My best friend was black who was killed(Run over by a racist) while coming to my house in 1982. Go figure...My life involved by both Black and White with no hatred towards any color or race but was subjected to both sides of the spectrum of racism. Yet i don't have the "Racist" mentality you have. what drives the anger in you? Did you grow up in the city to have this hatred inside you or did you "Experience" a Black on white thing that has distorted your views? What is the hate for that fills you? You grew up in a multicultural society. He did not. He is not used to people who are not white. That is why it is hard for you to understand him. I don't think he hates non-whites, he just does not identify himself with non-whites. He feels they are not human because all his life he only interacted with white humans. Imagine if you were an alien who grew up on a planet Kolab and you and everyone you ever knew or came in contact with had a green skin, and you came to Earth and saw a white person. You would probably think they are alien, ghostly looking. That is why he sees a monkey when he looks at a black person. It takes quite a few years to re-train your brain to think otherwise and you have to be open-minded. I bet many Africans here would agree that it was a shock to see a white person face to face for the very first time. |
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Given this reality no one will ever be able to prove God to you. However, that inability does not mean God does not exist. Thus instead of approaching the question from the perspective of looking for proof to reject disbelief I recommend instead trying to look at the world holistically from the perspective that God does exist examine how that changes your perspective on things. Then compare that worldview to your current one in its entirety.
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Well, that is true. I cannot prove that Zeus does exist nor that he does not exist. However, there are probabilities, and those are not in favor of Zeus or any other Gods, including your personal, pet God. As for assuming that God does exist and looking at the world, of course, you can delude yourself into believing that God created snowflakes, bees, and all the complexity we see in nature. Just like notbatman is convinced that Earth is flat because he looks out of his window and sees a flat horizon, he steps outside his parents' house, and he sees flat horizon all around 360 deg. He deluded himself that the Earth is flat. The Bible confirms that. What other proof does he need? He is deluded, any rational observer will come to the same conclusion. That is why it is important to validate what your senses are telling you. The scientific method is the best objective tool we have to discover the true nature of our universe. Other than that, it is a guessing game. He said, she said. From where I am standing, I don't see any fundamental difference in your reasoning and notbatman's. You both are mistaken. If you care about the truth, you follow the scientific method. You seek validation through observation and objective measurements. If you don't care if what you believe is true, then it does not matter. In the end, it is all about an emotional need that you have to believe in something greater no matter the evidence or lack thereof. Another reason could be that you (and people like you) are afraid of death and think that somehow (with some supernatural help) you will live in the afterlife somewhere in deep space (or wherever your imagination takes you). I am not afraid of death, and I am in full control of my life. My mistakes are mine and mine only. So are my successes. Not your God's, Zeus's, Allah's, Devil's, or any other fictional or non-fictional characters. PS. God cannot be even considered as a subject of scientific studies, so this idea of God should not even cross your mind. There is nothing to consider. You cannot build a hypothesis, never mind prove it. PPS. What is frustrating to see people like you come and proclaim that there is God somewhere. You cannot describe him, you have no proof, but you claim that your version (Judeo-Christian) God exists. Where is your Nobel prize? |
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