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1681  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 13, 2012, 11:28:47 PM
Nope, pics or link to payment on blockchain?

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/29589982/4a5feb42d53649159a6eb182853af0e576935cad9c27eeacab4580c2ea8afdf1
1682  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 13, 2012, 11:24:04 PM
Well, I had my BTC claim paid today to the claim address, in the full about, a little under 3 hours ago.

I had to look twice to believe it.  I never submitted the "AML" identity data, just the account info and a bitcoin "pay to" address.

Anyone else?
1683  Economy / Securities / Re: Verifing account of GLBSE discussion on: October 13, 2012, 11:22:58 PM
I haz bitcoins too, paid to my claim address in the full amount a little under 3 hours ago.  I never submitted the "AML" identity data.

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/29589982/4a5feb42d53649159a6eb182853af0e576935cad9c27eeacab4580c2ea8afdf1

I had about stopped believing in happy endings.

Now if we can just get the ownership information, much of the damage will be mitigated.
1684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: litecoin after bitcoin asics on: October 12, 2012, 03:21:13 PM
LTC also has the advantage of faster confirmations.  This makes it more desirable for its intended use as a currency than BTC IMO.
1685  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Data limits becoming an issue......any thoughts? on: October 12, 2012, 03:06:06 PM
It is a router from Cradlepoint, with a USB 4G modem plugged into it.  

On a side note, I use a USB 3G modem like this for my home internet (it's my only option where I live).

I had a Cradlepoint router like this, and it kind of worked, though sometimes it would hang and need to be reset.

Then I replaced it with an Asus RT-N13U and put dd-wrt on it, and what a difference!  My average data rate doubled, and stability is a lot better.

Somehow I suspect the Cradlepoint had trouble delivering enough power to the modem.  I never did try using a powered hub with it.

As for bandwidth, I solo mine.  I'm also on a grandfathered plan not subject to a data limit, but I think they're gonna try and take it away from me at the end of the year.   Angry
1686  Economy / Marketplace / Re: ["Wait List"] bASIC Pre-order Information on: October 12, 2012, 02:31:50 AM
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1687  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 12, 2012, 01:12:52 AM


...srsly, why have they not yet been sent?
1688  Economy / Securities / Re: Verifing account of GLBSE discussion on: October 11, 2012, 06:00:41 PM
https://i.imgur.com/YkjfW.jpg
1689  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 11, 2012, 05:58:39 PM
Just logged in.  Without doing anything else, it says:

Quote
Claim finished
Your claim has been submitted and will be reviewed. You will be contacted (via the email address you provided) to keep you up to date on the status of your account, we will try to get your bitcoin to you as soon as possible.

I guess it remembers when I logged in the first time the site was up.  I submitted some information, but stopped at the AML page.

No email yet, and no BTC.  (I forget if it even asked for a withdrawl address before.  I know I did not have one configured back when the site was fully working.)
1690  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 10, 2012, 06:54:05 PM
Asset issuers: Check.

Actually for some asset issuers this may be a lucky strike: they got money and probably will not have to pay back nuthin.
So much luck that someone rightly suspects that some of them may be co-conspirators.

Hm, well there is that.

However, if the issuer's plans in any way hinged on the continuing liquidity of their offered shares (as pretty much any honest plan would), they're still screwed in that regard.

Free coins are nice, though they can't (honestly) feel too good about how they came to possess them.

They will also surely have to deal with victimized users asking for their coins back, or shares, and will have no way to verify any claim.

Really it sounds like the only ones to truly benefit are any who were not on-the-level in the first place.
1691  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 10, 2012, 05:49:27 PM
Whoa, you gonna hire a posse to put everyone that is posting positively about Nefario in their place?

If that place is the looney bin, that seems about right.

Srsly, how could anyone involved hold a positive opinion of Nefario right now, with all that's happened?  The lies upon lies, the utter lack of any credible information given, the series of inappropriately unilateral actions taken, etc.  Is there anyone here he hasn't screwed at this point?

Regular users with only BTC on deposit: Check.
Regular users who hold shares on GLBSE: Check.
Asset issuers: Check.
Shareholders in GLBSE itself: Check.
GLBSE Officers and board members: Check.

Am I forgetting anyone?

How indeed?

Shooting the moon only works in Hearts.
1692  Economy / Securities / Re: Verifing account of GLBSE discussion on: October 10, 2012, 05:42:53 PM
I just had a call with James, and he has said that there should be a way to claim what yours on GLBSE within a day, and everything in terms of shareholder info and people getting their btc back should be resolved this week.

He definitely could have closed the exchange a bit more gracefully, but according to him, he doesn't want to hold the high amount of liability he has attained any longer.

So let's stop the fud for a bit, and see how this week goes.

Best of luck to everyone involved,
Garrett

I do believe I've heard that one before.  If only I could recall where...
1693  Economy / Securities / Re: Verifing account of GLBSE discussion on: October 10, 2012, 03:25:37 PM
Has anyone tried to contact these mysterious gov agencies that may be behind all of this?


Yes.

I don't even HAVE a utility bill to my name + home to begin with, also I'm now really worried that someone could just claim to have owned my account instead. Why the hell can't we at least use our EXISTING login data on a demo site in the mean time just to see our balance etc.?!
Because he doesn't want you to prove your ownership of the account, he wants your info so you could be prosecuted.

Or because he doesn't want you to prove your ownership of the account, he wants to keep your assets instead.

I'm not sure if existing "real" online financial insitutions require more or even less than these documents for AML...

Personally, having 4 brokerage accounts (2 margin, 2 cash), 7 checking accounts, 7 savings accounts, 7 credit accounts, 2 IRAs, a 401k, a mortgage, a HELOC, plus Dwolla, Paypal, Moneybookers, and Google Checkout, I have not once been asked for the kind of documents GLBSE is now requesting.
1694  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Moving bitcoin.org to a hardened server? on: October 10, 2012, 05:00:18 AM
The integrity questions aside, I think that publishing torrents of the releases would be useful in general.

This is especially true for the block chain download.
1695  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 10, 2012, 04:51:36 AM
I only hope we all have the good sense to stay away from GLBSE 3.0 if Nefario is in any way involved.
1696  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 10, 2012, 03:49:10 AM
This is ridiculous, asking people to place even more trust and sensitive data in the hands of someone who is at best grossly incompetent, and at worst a thief.

Honest GLBSE officers and shareholders, please intervene and give us a reasonable means to reclaim our funds and assets.  One that does not require us to place additional trust where it clearly should not be placed.
1697  Economy / Securities / Re: Verifing account of GLBSE discussion on: October 10, 2012, 03:30:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vmPD_YSQ--k#t=227s

Here Nefario specifically highlights the lack of AML as a reason to use GLBSE.

Roll Eyes

That was just 3 weeks ago.

Bait and switch, anyone?
1698  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 10, 2012, 03:24:04 AM
Is there any reference on that page to how the data will be stored and for how long?  There are usually a shit load of laws regarding collecting information which contains unique government identifiers and you're usually required to inform users of the specific legislation which requires the collection information, what the information will be used for, any privacy legislation which applies to the collection of the data, etc.  Nefario needs to get his hot-shot lawyer to draft a notice regarding the authority to collect the information and the data protection measures which will be taken.  He also needs to inform people of how long the information will be retained.  In FATF nations (of which the UK is one), data collected for AML/KYC purposes is generally required to be kept for 5-7 years.

Said even more pointedly in another thread:

Haven't seen that request, but if they're requesting personal information there's a few points they need to clear up first:

1.  If the information is for AML purposes then which AML supervisor are they registered with?  In the uK there's about 8 different supervisors, depending on the nature of your business (IF your business is one subject to the AML legislation).  The obvious one for them would be the FSA (which covers financial service providers) but there ARE others (e.g. casinos have the gambling/gaming commission).  If they're requesting information for AML purposes then they need to be registered with one of the designated supervisory bodies.

2.  If it's for AML purposes then a link please to their AML compliance policy.

3.  If not for AML purposes then what is this information going to be used for?  And how long will it be retained for?  This is information they're obligated to provide under the Data Protection Act.

4.  Irrespective of the answers above, link please to their DPA compliance policy/statement?

5.  Can GLBSE please confirm that they have professional indemnity insurance covering them against loss or misuse of clients' data.

6.  What is their intention in respect of anyone who refuses to provide the documents but requests their funds returned?  Will they just keep the money?  Report them as a suspected money launderer?  Turn their BTC over to the police?

As soon as I receive the request referred to in OP I'll be emailing requesting the above information (can't check my email right now - assume that's where it is).  If they refuse to answer the questions but persist in requesting the information then I will next send a formal request for my funds (providing my name/address but not giving any documents which would allow identity theft).
1699  Economy / Securities / Re: Verifing account of GLBSE discussion on: October 10, 2012, 03:03:09 AM
I am not giving any ID information cause for one that wasn't in the TOS...

this
1700  Economy / Securities / Re: Verifing account of GLBSE discussion on: October 10, 2012, 02:58:41 AM
Pirate asks for AML info before he'll give the money up. Never gives the money up.
Nefario asks for AML info before he'll give the money up. (predictable result goes here)
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