So what you're saying is you intended all along to have a fan underneath case? Why don't the pictures on your product page show the Single as it truly is? Why is honesty so hard for you?
My favorite (other than mine) is gigavps's first Single. Check pic 3 for lols. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=53530.msg763375#msg763375The ghetto engineer in me loves this. The OCD engineer in me constantly worries about losing a finger when moving a Single. Jeez, they could at least have put a grille over that thing. You know, like ATX power supply exhaust fans tend to have. Maybe they're rolling in so much dough that the potential for a lost finger from some customer's curious three-year-old and the resulting lawsuit is of no great concern. You really think one of those could take off a finger? XD I end up clipping my finger in one of those all the time when I'm doing maintenance on a running box. It just stings a bit. Rarely bruises and never breaks the skin. A burn is more a risk than the fan! Ya I dunno, depends how powerful it is I suppose, and how tough the finger is. I have some 120mm 200cfm fans that run on 48V (still plastic blades), and it drew blood when I bumped a finger into one. If you look at the pic and the shape of the blades, you will see that the exposed side is in fact the intake side, which will do a lot more damage if a finger gets caught in it than the exhaust side would. |
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I'm asking if other systems be changed to fit with the way bitcoin ASICs process things?
Do they have SoC?
Can SHA256 be used for anything else? Or can anything else use SHA256?
Squeept. Sorry for snappin at ya. just looking for ideas, info, etc.
Single SHA256 is probably useful for a number of other, uh, uses. Double SHA256 is probably not useful for much besides bitcoin mining. If they are designing these chips for maximum mining efficiency, they probably will have designed them to perform double SHA256 and nothing else. They may well have put even more of the mining logic into the ASIC, such as returning only hash results with difficulty > 1 or some other target that makes sense. |
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Why haven't you guys jumped into the ASIC game like a lot of the other FPGA product makers?
Just curious.
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So what you're saying is you intended all along to have a fan underneath case? Why don't the pictures on your product page show the Single as it truly is? Why is honesty so hard for you?
My favorite (other than mine) is gigavps's first Single. Check pic 3 for lols. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=53530.msg763375#msg763375The ghetto engineer in me loves this. The OCD engineer in me constantly worries about losing a finger when moving a Single. Jeez, they could at least have put a grille over that thing. You know, like ATX power supply exhaust fans tend to have. Maybe they're rolling in so much dough that the potential for a lost finger from some customer's curious three-year-old and the resulting lawsuit is of no great concern. |
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Does anyone have the glbse account address so we can check it against blockchain and find that tx?
http://blockchain.info/address/1FX22c76vybHJSJdCCjKHDHhcMDhDX87nwMy 50 BTC deposit is still sitting in this address. I believe this is the small fund that Theymos controls (or a part of it). Earlier Theymos was very careful to say that these are anonymous user funds and do not belong to any user in particular, and that if he ends up distributing them to users, that it will be a fair and equitable distribution among all users. This seems fair to me. I will not insist that my deposit be returned to me in full while other users go empty-handed just because of where it happened to end up. When considering who you want to trust to hold and distribute these funds, consider the behavior of the involved parties so far. I don't think you'll need to look far to realize who has been forthright with us, engaged us, and given us reasonable answers, and who has told us nothing and made demands that make little sense if the intent were to actually repay users, but make lots if sense if the intent is to abscond with all of the user funds. Maybe some other depositor can trace their funds to find this supposed 4000-8000 BTC address, and see if they are in fact still unspent. Or maybe someone who is inherently privy to this knowledge can just post the address. :hint: :hint: |
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Guys, make some public noise here if you wanna see Theymos make the motion.
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I want for Theymos to step up, and agree to manage the dispersal of customer funds. He has shown himself to be far more forthright than mr. Nef, and is treasurer after all. Giving over the treasury funds to Nef now after all that has happened is highly unlikely to result in a happy ending for us users IMO.
Theymos, I understand that your position sucks, and you just want out of it, like you did even before this whole situation exploded. Unfortunately, you're our only hope, and the funds that you hold are valuable leverage.
Please do not give our monies over to Nefario! Instead, demand a copy of the user database, and manage the dispersals yourself, as a proper Treasurer should.
The shareholders voted that I should send the funds to BitcoinGlobal's accountant. The only reason I haven't yet is that the accountant hasn't sent me an address. Even if I wanted to defy the shareholders, Nefario refuses to give me the database. It's unlikely that I could get the database in any reasonable amount of time. If there's a lot of public noise about this very soon, maybe I could get a motion passed to keep the ~800 BTC in user funds with me. I hold ~800 BTC in "anonymous" user funds. It doesn't belong to anyone in particular. If I had the GLBSE user database, I would send this BTC proportionally to all GLBSE users.
Nefario has, I would guess, 4000-8000 user BTC in total.
I see no reason why he should demand that you turn these funds over immediately, as it appears he is doing: We will begin retuning bitcoin once we have recieved all coins from the GLBSE treasurer that manages the GLBSE cash reserves. BitcoinGlobal (GLBSE's partent company) shareholders and board voted for them to be returned immediately, we are awaiting compliance with this order.
He will begin returning funds when he receives the ~800 BTC that you hold, while he has 4000-8000 BTC on hand? Riiight. By all means, please try and make a motion to keep these funds under your control. Let's see him start actually returning some customer BTC before considering turning them over. |
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They'll be added to Inaba's 480Ghps farm. Meanwhile, the customers who send in their trade-ins will receive bricks, or nothing, and BFL will claim shipping delays (if nothing is shipped) or a firmware problem (if bricks are shipped) or similar. Then they will have your millions in pre-order monies, all your trade-in FPGAs to mine with, and you will have nothing but frustration. Call me a pessimist. What happened to your hashrate sig Inaba? Was that a little too much truth for ppl to handle seeing? Q. You are going to have an unfair advantage when it comes to mining equipment, you’ll be able to get as much as you want before anyone else!
A. I will not be expanding my mining footprint as it would be a conflict of interest.
And how are they going to get away with it when hundreds or thousands of people are claiming fraud? When they end up actually shipping, you're going to look like a giant idiot and I expect you'll start a new account out of such serious embarrassment. I understand BFL_Sonny somehow got away with ~$20m from his mail fraud lottery/ponzi scheme. The feds certainly never recovered it. No, if I'm wrong, I'll admit it and live with however that makes me look. |
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The only infrastructure shown in the content linked above would appear to be a couple guys assembling products on a table along with their brown-bag lunch, with some Nexel shelves in the background full of parts. Not even so much as an ESD bracelet visible. Certainly nothing like the facilities pictured in the link in the OP, which claims "These units are currently being installed in our new facility." Then a couple days later, when called out on the origin of the photos, states "they're in transit". |
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Pirate asks for AML info before he'll give the money up. Never gives the money up.
Nefario asks for AML info before he'll give the money up. (predictable result goes here)
Why are you stating that Nefario asks for AML info? All I've seen is the GLBSE statement posted today on their Web site saying that if you are willing them to share your email, user name, and a btc address with the issuers, you can continue your relationship with the issuers (presumably based on claim codes GLBSE will provide). That's all the information available as of today. No need to spread FUD. Users will be able to collect deposits only after submitting identity info.
Identity meaning what exactly? Will my login credentials and deposit address suffice? MtGox-style AML documents. This contradicts what Nefario put on the home page: Q:I'm a GLBSE user, what about my assets and my bitcoin?
You will be able to get back your bitcoin, and if you want to reveal your username, email, and a bitcoin address to accept payments with, you can continue your relationship with the issuer of any assets you hold.
If you read it carefully, it actually does not contradict. All that is said above about bitcoins on glbse.com is that we will be able to get them back. Nothing else. |
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Well, they all have a nice little defined backlog of information. I personally prefer Bitminter, the admin is very clear and tells us what's going on with the pool. He also responds to our questions in a friendly and complete manner.
Yes "they" do,so does BFL,even a pic of one thier products (may change but a pic nonetheless).No one else has pic yet of any product. What pic is this? You mean the rendering? Pics of FPGA products don't count. |
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Pirate asks for AML info before he'll give the money up. Never gives the money up.
Nefario asks for AML info before he'll give the money up. (predictable result goes here)
Why are you stating that Nefario asks for AML info? All I've seen is the GLBSE statement posted today on their Web site saying that if you are willing them to share your email, user name, and a btc address with the issuers, you can continue your relationship with the issuers (presumably based on claim codes GLBSE will provide). That's all the information available as of today. No need to spread FUD. Users will be able to collect deposits only after submitting identity info.
Identity meaning what exactly? Will my login credentials and deposit address suffice? MtGox-style AML documents. |
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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but if things really do go belly up, the ASIC units are not like video cards and likely going to have basically 0 resale value. I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure the ASIC is going to be built specifically for BTC mining and won't be able to do anything else. Can someone verify that?
That's correct. |
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I don't understand... all you guys saying you buy shares strictly for dividends and not for company growth value? Why did you even buy during IPO?
I don't understand the question. Can you clarify please? |
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BFL keeps pushing their delivery date. October... November... Probably December...
I know it's OT for this thread, but can you link to where they announced that they are moving the date? |
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You might want to revise the thread topic to spell "Litecoin" correctly.
Appearances and all...
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Do you have a PR person? [a Professional]
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People are doubting that you guys are even a legitimate company. Why don't you hire someone to do the PR work to turn it around?
Many of you on bitcointalk.org forums know me as “Inaba,” the operator of the Eclipse Mining Consortium bitcoin pool. In approximately two weeks I will also be wearing a different hat. As you may be able to guess from my new forum name, I will be working with and for BFL. Effective August 13, 2012 I have accepted the position of Chief Operating Officer of BF Labs INC. (Butterfly Labs)
BFL is the clear technical leader in the FPGA and upcoming ASIC mining space. As a direct result, the company has grown very quickly over the past year. Unfortunately, its customer service, which was initially very good, did not scale fast enough, which caused customer relations and transparency to suffer. BFL is eager to improve and one of my top responsibilities in this new position is to focus on that specific issue. I am, have always been and will always be committed to good customer service and transparency when it comes to bitcoin in general and the daily operations of related activities. This is where I will be focusing much of my initial attention...
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Theymos, can you tell us whether you control the ~675 BTC currently in GBLSE address 1FX22c76vybHJSJdCCjKHDHhcMDhDX87nw, or if Nefario does (or none of the above)?
I am seeing conflicting information.
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A true conspiracy theorist would say that bfl products don't exist at all.
That is, in fact, my opinion currently (regarding the SC product line, not the known-to-exist FPGA products). I place it's probability of being correct around 75%. I can't fathom why else they would be behaving the way that they are. Surely being more transparent could do nothing but bring them more business. |
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