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1101  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Attn: Avalon on: March 31, 2013, 06:29:59 PM
Why will they have a special interest in obtaining you as a customer?
1102  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [VIDEO] Butterfly Labs (BFL) Bitforce SC ASIC Test on: March 31, 2013, 04:43:14 PM
it's entirely possible adding another reg there will fix it.

Surely there's a reason the boards didn't run as intended in the first place.

I don't see how adding another voltage regulator will magically fix it.  It might improve efficiency somewhat, but that's hardly a complete fix.
1103  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASIC Device buying advice and situation on: March 31, 2013, 03:18:39 PM
I by no means mean to encourage someone to give money to BFL, but...
For that above to be true, network difficulty will need to be somewhere above ~8 billion.
I didn't do any actual calculations, i was guessing.
However you are one order of magnitude off, the network difficulty needs to be > 600 million for a 4.5GH device to earn less than 1BTC each year. a 100x increase seems somewhat possible in 6 months to me, if BFL ships.

Ah, right you are about me being off by 1 OOM.

Using http://tpbitcalc.appspot.com/, I show 4.5GHps capturing < 1 BTC/year a bit above 800 million.

I guess that's not *that* far fetched, if BFL ships.
1104  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASIC Device buying advice and situation on: March 31, 2013, 02:59:34 PM
With the 4.5 gh/z ASIC Device rate how much Bitcoints you create in a month ?
When you receive yours, if ever, you won't probably be able to mine a single bitcoin in a year.

I by no means mean to encourage someone to give money to BFL, but...

For that above to be true, network difficulty will need to be somewhere above ~8 billion.

Do you really expect that to be the situation?
1105  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Buying FPGAs still useful? on: March 31, 2013, 02:54:14 PM
For some reason the used FPGA market is really hot right now.  Finding them is hard.

I think it has a lot to do with the soaring bitcoin market value.  A ton of noobs are jumping in now, and they want to buy a miner.  Any miner.

They sure as hell can't get ASICs easily, so if they can get an FPGA, they'll pwn it up.  Beyond that, they're snatching up GPUs, 'cuz that's what they can get.

If you don't believe in the future profitability of your FPGA vs what you could make selling it, now might be a good time to sell while the market is strong.
1106  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL power consumption / Charity Donation on: March 31, 2013, 12:10:39 PM
Missing their power target means the minirig won't run on a standard house plug, which has a 15 amp breaker.

It also means the Jalapeņo won't run on 2 USB 2.0 ports, as was planned.

I guess it might stand a better chance of keeping keeping your coffee warm though, so hey, it's not all bad, right?
1107  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Thinking of reselling Avalon batch 2 or 3 because BFL will "ship"? on: March 31, 2013, 04:11:22 AM
I think all he really said is that it took them 1.2 months from the time they received the chips until they were ready to ship something.

I don't think he mentioned encountering any mysterious power drain issues.
1108  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL progress.. Should I sell my Avalon's. Any feedback would be appreciated! on: March 30, 2013, 05:53:46 PM
If you happen to have in hand Avalons you can most likely ask +10k$ and get that money too.

I was offered $10k, and then $20k for mine.  I said no both times.
1109  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: X6500 - Power Issue on: March 30, 2013, 03:53:48 PM
How does one test and replace the F1 [w] on the board?

Must need a special tool and technique as it is so small and was pressed into place when fabricated.

It's soldered onto the board.  If I were doing it, I would probably use 2 soldering irons to melt both ends at once.  Alternately, you could leave the blown fuse in place and solder a new one on top of it.

To test it, I would use a multimeter on the "ohms" setting.  Put one probe on each end of the fuse.  If it measures much more than 1 ohm, it's probably blown.  Mine measured about 0.8 ohms.

I'd think a 2A or maybe 2.5A fuse would make an appropriate replacement.
1110  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [VIDEO] Butterfly Labs (BFL) Bitforce SC ASIC Test on: March 30, 2013, 12:06:36 PM
Did I heard "board with extra regulators"? So, problem is in chips not the board. Theydraw to much power. Same story as year ago with SC single. Promised 20W, delivered 80W. Now 60-160, it's progress. With 4th generation maybe they learn how to properly estimate power consumption.

BFL Problem: The board or something on it (but we don't think it's the ASIC chips) is drawing 2-3 times as much power as was expected, and we don't know what or why.  But we do know that the voltage regulator can't keep up.

BFL Solution: Add another voltage regulator so that together they'll be more able to handle the increased draw.
1111  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL progress.. Should I sell my Avalon's. Any feedback would be appreciated! on: March 30, 2013, 04:47:47 AM
I think you should sell them.  Since they're obsolete now, I'll generously offer 8 BTC each.

Best hurry before I change my mind.

 Grin

 Cheesy
1112  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE? on: March 30, 2013, 04:27:58 AM

No. You would have ~130BTC. Who cares about fiat?

I have not seen anybody selling goods or services in bitcoin that isn't pegged to the price in fiat. 130BTC buys a lot more now then it did 8 months ago, so you should care.


Avalon is now priced in BTC only, beginning with batch 3.

Like Yifu says "The loop has been closed."
1113  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon Components & Spare Parts Discussion on: March 30, 2013, 02:48:01 AM
[Networking]

(Stock) - TP-LINK TP-WR703N

I don't think it's a regular WR703N.  I believe it is modified to add more RAM, more flash, and an external RF connector.

Something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/SLBoat-The-TL-WR703N-Mod-64Mbyte-RAM-16Mbyte-Flash-And-TTLout-Inside-MicroUSB-/181078954797
1114  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [VIDEO] Butterfly Labs (BFL) Bitforce SC ASIC Test on: March 30, 2013, 02:15:51 AM
42W at idle?  Good lawd.  My x6500 FPGAs only burns up 17.2W at full load...

Didn't they like...put a dummy load in place of the ASIC chips and actually test these boards or something while they were waiting on chip delivery?

I guess not.
1115  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE? on: March 30, 2013, 12:23:29 AM
Why the hell do you need anti-virus software?  You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom.  It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.

Sure... and you are one of the guys that disable javascript just in case some virus will try to penetrate your system? Wink

I think you meant Java and not JS.

I think an AV is a good thing when you want to browse with lesser risks. It happens occasionally that websites are infected. Its better to be protected this way if you dont want to lose functions of the browser/websites. Its not secure but better than nothing. Only my thinking...

You know what's more secure, if you think you'll need it?  A browser in a VM.  Save the VM state first, and when you're done browsing, just roll back.
1116  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE? on: March 29, 2013, 11:57:29 PM
So, to go back on topic, help me to understand the supposed state of BFL's chips.  There seems to be a lot of confusion about that.

Wafer #1: "Burned" for testing with some crazy wire bonded rig that was apparently of dubious benefit.
Wafer #2: Bumped, diced, packaged, and in testing.  Some soldered onto boards.
Wafers #3-6: Huh  Are they still just wafers?  Have they been bumped yet?  Diced and packaged?
Wafers #7-12: Huh Last we'd heard the top few metal layers were being held back.  Have they given the go-ahead yet to finalize them?  If so, when was it given?
Wafers #13+: Huh
1117  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE? on: March 29, 2013, 11:34:27 PM
Why the hell do you need anti-virus software?  You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom.  It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.
1118  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: X6500 - Power Issue on: March 29, 2013, 07:31:00 PM
I would check the fuse first.  It's the component labeled F1, just to the right of the Molex connector.

If it measures more than 1 ohm, it's probably blown and should be replaced (or bridged if you like to live on the edge.)
1119  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASIC Batch 3 [CLOSED- Seven 4 module Avalons ordered] on: March 29, 2013, 07:06:27 PM
I see my two transactions on the list.  All looks well.  Thanks.
1120  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: [POLL] Should Butterfly Labs (BFL) get a Scammer tag? on: March 29, 2013, 03:26:59 AM
BFL is keeping a portion of first batch chips for their own mining farm:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157329.0

#1 batch customers: how you're feeling right now?

Maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't this refer to units which Josh personally ordered and paid for in June 2012 and in which shares were then made available?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89902.0

Be that as it may, it's still a glaring conflict of interest.

Josh either needs to be an ASIC maker, or be a miner.  To be both is too dangerous.

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