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1621  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: MSI Motherboard sets fire (PICTURES INSIDE) on: October 30, 2012, 04:35:03 AM
:pow:

I'd say electrolyte leaked out of one of those caps and shorted some power traces coming off that thar 8-pin molex.

"Military class" lol.
1622  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC Development Status on: October 29, 2012, 06:51:37 PM
update.

Shipping. We at Avalon understands the some what unreliableness of EMS in certain countries, to address this issue, all existing and future orders will be shipped out via DHL at no additional charge. This will ensure timely delivery of our products.

Awesome!  That should save me a week off my delivery wait time, if not more.
1623  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will we be able to mine Litecoin with ASIC's? on: October 29, 2012, 03:08:35 AM
I wonder if any ASIC manufacturers out there could be working on a LTC ASIC?  They could get into a dominant market position like BFL did if they got in early.

This would be somewhat harder to do than a Bitcoin ASIC miner.  For mining BTC, someone can just license an existing SHA256 IP core, or use an open-source one.  Scrypt, on the other hand, probably doesn't have ready-made cores "out there" like that.  A maker would have to design and produce their own.

I think the ASIC makers likely have their hands full and then some handling their current product efforts, but you're right, there is an opportunity here.
1624  Economy / Securities / Re: GLBSE Payment Claims (Announce your payment here) on: October 29, 2012, 12:23:17 AM
May as well add my old payment:

Bogart, 50.00, 4a5feb42d53649159a6eb182853af0e576935cad9c27eeacab4580c2ea8afdf1, 100%
1625  Other / Off-topic / Re: [BFL] Jalapeno, Powered by Wall? Or USB... on: October 28, 2012, 10:19:03 PM
Maybe y'all should start a bounty fund now for a mod to feed them more power and run them at 7.5Ghps. Grin
1626  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL Requests Input on: October 28, 2012, 10:36:41 AM

I thought I made this clear - it's useless for communication on certain issues because of people like you.


Maybe if you didn't engage in a dialogue with him and instead provided an update on how BFL's location move went, etc.

Seriously... why would I not provide and update if I had one?  Gah, I am just baffled by the constant requests for the same thing over and over.  I have repeatedly stated that when I have more information on Topic X that I can provide, I will provide it.  I have no desire to keep things secret and the things that I do keep secret are for competitive reasons.  If something appears to be secret and has no obvious competitive advantage for being secret, then it's probably not really secret, I just have nothing further to contribute on that subject than I have already contributed.

If I ignore your request for information X, its' because I've already answered it elsewhere and your request is the nth identical request I have received.


Has this been answered elsewhere?:

No, we are waiting on our ASIC chips right now, as I've stated in a number of other places, though it's understandable if you have missed the posts, since they are spread out everywhere.

So basically for the bitcoin magazine post (here: http://bitcoinmagazine.net/butterfly-labs-releases-more-asic-photos/) you guys soldered some random QFN components to the board to you would have something to show....?

Inaba, please explain.

Indeed, just what are the chips shown here that are called ASICs if you have no ASICs yet?


For clarity, the question is: Are the chips pictured in the article actual functioning BFL ASICs, or are they something else?
1627  Other / Politics & Society / Lawmakers seek to restrict your right to resell the things you own on: October 27, 2012, 02:17:27 PM
http://www.youvebeenowned.org/

From the page:

Quote from: youvebeenowned.org
Next week, the U.S. Supreme Court will decide whether you have the right to sell your stuff on eBay. Do you really own the smartphone or computer you’re using to read this? If you sold your books, would you be breaking the law? A federal court in New York says you would be, even if you legally paid for and bought them.

It's unbelievable, but trademark and copyright holders are trying to use a legal loophole to take away your right to sell things that you own. The mainstream media is starting to catch on, with the Wall Street Journal just running an article headlined, "YOUR RIGHT TO RESELL YOUR OWN STUFF IS IN PERIL".
1628  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: is butterfly labs mining with those ASICs at the moment? on: October 27, 2012, 03:59:44 AM
No, we are waiting on our ASIC chips right now, as I've stated in a number of other places, though it's understandable if you have missed the posts, since they are spread out everywhere.

So basically for the bitcoin magazine post (here: http://bitcoinmagazine.net/butterfly-labs-releases-more-asic-photos/) you guys soldered some random QFN components to the board to you would have something to show....?

Inaba, please explain.

Indeed, just what are the chips shown here that are called ASICs if you have no ASICs yet?

1629  Other / Off-topic / Re: Already delays in BFL shipment plans? on: October 27, 2012, 03:45:02 AM
Quote
No, we are waiting on our ASIC chips right now, as I've stated in a number of other places, though it's understandable if you have missed the posts, since they are spread out everywhere.

The bASIC ASICs are already taped out from the wafer...

Maybe you could tell us just what you think "taped out" means.
1630  Economy / Speculation / Re: Strange activity on btc-e on: October 27, 2012, 01:57:58 AM
It was most likely a compromised account imo

One with quite some sizable assets, if so.

Kind of reminds me of something: http://leanback.eu/bitcoin/plots/20110619195756-mtgox.png
1631  Economy / Speculation / Re: Strange activity on btc-e on: October 27, 2012, 01:56:12 AM
wat?

I see what looks like 2 transactions on btc-e.  First is someone buying about 230,000 LTC with USD at "market price", paying as high as $0.16 per until the order is filled.  Then maybe an hour later, someone sells a huge amount of LTC (slightly more than 230,000) in exchange for USD, again at the "market price", accepting as little as $0.01 per.
1632  Economy / Speculation / Strange activity on btc-e on: October 27, 2012, 01:33:14 AM
It looks like someone just made 2 huge market orders on btc-e, a buy then a sell, on LTC/USD:

http://www.ltc-charts.com/period-charts.php?period=10-days&resolution=hour&pair=ltc-usd&market=btc-e

Look at the volume.  Around 250k LTC each, or around $20,000 in USD.

Why would anyone do that and take the huge loss from buying high and then selling low?

I have also noticed that as the BTC price has been falling over the last few days, btc-e always led the decline, with mtgox trailing (perhaps as arbitration bots evened things out).

Something seems fishy here.  I'm not quite declaring that btc-e is hacked yet, but it's kind of looking that way to me.
1633  Economy / Currency exchange / [resolved] Bitinstant.com is offline, anyone know why? on: October 26, 2012, 05:15:09 PM
Edit: Looks like they're back online now.

The normal bitinstant.com site has been unavailable for at least 14 hours now.  Going to the site now just presents:

Quote from: bitinstant.com
BitInstant.com is currently down due to site revisions

All orders placed up to this point will process as normal. If you have any questions or issues feel free to contact support@bitinstant.com or call 716-712-4846

I came across this bit on IRC describing how Roger Ver, the marketing director of bitinstant is currently stuck in immigration holding in Macau.  I don't know if it has any bearing on the site being down:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/124hn2/roger_ver_aannd_hes_gone
1634  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: is butterfly labs mining with those ASICs at the moment? on: October 26, 2012, 04:03:36 PM
BitcoinINV, You seem to want to say something with this letter.

Why don't you just say it right here (or in the letter thread) instead of beating around the proverbial bush with vague hints, expecting ppl to trawl through random other threads looking for wtfever you're referring to.
1635  Other / Off-topic / Re: Already delays in BFL shipment plans? on: October 26, 2012, 03:57:06 PM
Before I blow a gasket from reading the FUCKING STUPIDITY ignorance on this thread, let me set something straight:

1) A "fab house" or "fab" does NOT assemble boards.  They make chips.  That's it.  A "lot" or batch of chips takes somewhere between 4 and 10 weeks depending on the "process" (130nm, 65nm, 22nm, etc.) and how much the customer is willing to spend.  According to Josh, they have paid the maximum for their fab to get them out ASAP.  IF they are in 65nm process, I think this should be roughly 6 to 8 weeks - depending on which fab they are using.

2) Chips and other components are soldered onto boards at an "assembly house".

3) After BFL gets the "assembled" boards from the external assembly house (or done in-house in the near future), then they finish putting it together with heatsink and metal box then ship it out.

I understand that these other components will not be supplied by the assembly house, but will need to be sourced by BFL and shipped to the assembly huose for use.  Does that sound likely to be correct?

Quote from: BFL_Josh
The ASICs are similar in so far as they also have nearly 350 components on each board. With the FPGAs, we sourced parts in the hundreds or low thousands at a time. For some of the ASIC parts, we are sourcing hundreds of thousands at a time which requires direct ordering & lead time dependancy from the respective manufacturers. However, for this first batch, we're mostly able to depend on available distribution stock from places like Mouser and DigiKey.

Source: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showthread.php/104-Shipping-in-2-3-weeks?p=1461&viewfull=1#post1461
1636  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: BOUNTY: BFL SC die size (20BTC) and process node (20BTC) on: October 26, 2012, 03:56:07 AM
I don't see a die-size prediction. I'm going with 24mm^2

From the board pictures, the chip packages appear to my eyes to be 11x11mm.

Not that that says a whole lot about the die size.
1637  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC Development Status on: October 26, 2012, 02:29:45 AM
Why would the pools disappear?
If someone mines with a single gpu now and has 1/10000th of the total networkspeed and gets a asic and still has a 1/10000th of the total networkspeed, it's still a good idea to use a pool.

A mining rig of 500MH/s today have 1/40000 of network power a single 60GH ASIC at the beginning will be near 1/2000 (like a 2GH today) and a 1TB rig will be in the 1/100th range like a small pool today (30-40GHs of today rigs); pool still can work, but it's quite easy for who have 2-3 60GH ASIC mine in solo and get 1-2 block a month in the first month.

Maybe Im wrong, but mining on a pool or solo would get almost the same result, even in a few month time span...   your tought ?

I don't understand why so many people are confused about this.

Yes, statistically it should work out exactly the same.  Solo just tends to be a lot more "chunky" in its payouts.

(minus any variance based on server reliability, server operator fees, etc.)
1638  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Re-purposing of FPGA boards made for mining on: October 24, 2012, 10:12:53 PM
I'll tell you one thing that could benefit from some hardware acceleration: Video encoding.  Specifically, H.264.

The last time I looked I couldn't even find an (open source) GPU-accelerated H.264 encoder.

(The same likely goes for a lot of other popular codecs like AAC.)

That would be one of those mid-to-high-bandwidth sort of applications that may not work too well on some existing miner boards.
1639  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Remote Mining rigs on: October 24, 2012, 10:05:12 PM
Why would someone pay you to run their hardware? Especially ASICs, their power consumption is super low.

I'm sure there's quite a few reasons.  Someone may not have space for a mining rig, may not want to deal with the noise and heat, may not have reliable power or internet connectivity, or those services may be prohibitively expensive and/or limited by metering.

Heck, they may be in military deployment and can't tend to maintaining a rig.

Or a compulsive gambler may wish to hide their mining investment from their spouse.  Wink

Personally, I enjoy building and operating my rig(s), and place a good bit of value on the education received from doing so.
1640  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC Development Status on: October 24, 2012, 03:57:12 PM
They've admitted to using a larger die size than their competitors. What else did you expect? The only consolation is being able to swap out to a more efficient PSU, and the fact that it doesn't need a host computer to run. Still, that GHs/1kUSD is nice for those of us with access to free electric.

A larger size than bASIC's 90nm, but smaller than ASICMINER's 130nm.  I don't believe any other ASIC makers have disclosed their process node size.
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