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1781  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UROD] Scrypt coin - ICO Supported by allcoin - The world is better in dark on: October 29, 2014, 07:11:01 AM
At least the thread is not self-moderated. That makes them way more honest than the ones who censor theirs... not that it doesn't mean it is both shit and probably a scam.

But at least you can post to that effect on their thread and they would not censor it.

The others, also shit and also scams, simply delete the inconvenient posts.

Hopefully people learns fast...
1782  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Coin Sale LIVE! |Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 29, 2014, 06:39:17 AM
Has anyone tried to forecast what a brocoin would be priced at if breakout achieves its goal of buying 25 million brocoin per month?

Currently, assuming the ICO reaches it's minimal goals, the BRO operation is being priced at (around) 18 million dollars, roughly the value of Peercoin.

I believe it is optimistic enough.
1783  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PES] Pesa - Anonymous Coin - No Premine - Dynamic Interest - PoStr on: October 29, 2014, 06:28:11 AM
I feel Jake's pain!!! Due to lack of donations upon release of roadmap and whitepaper the new devs will now have to withdraw their support.

These devs had the right experience having worked on different global mobile money projects and the right interest and programming skills however they had not been involved in Crypto hence to pay them some minimum stipends in BTC and Pesa for the 2 month revival work. 4BTC and 1M Pesa was very reasonable for the roadmap highlighted. Other devs on this forum ask for hundreds of BTC.

Anyway wish you guys all the best as I don't see any need continuing in a project with no community support.


You guys made a very poor offer that most wouldn't even remotely want as presented:

-- No one knows who you are, any of you.

-- You as for money, not much but some, with not even a remote guarantee that anything will actually be delivered.

Just because people are left with no options it doesn't mean they would take what looks like way worse than doing nothing...

Here's how you do this when you really want to do it:

-- We are going to work on reviving PESA for 2 months and we require full support from the community. Price of PESA is 100 SAT. If we get the price to 1,000 sat in 2 months time, the community will donate to us 5 million pesa. 10% of which, 500,000 will be donated now as a good will gesture and kept in escrow by the top holder, Jake the Panda. If we get the price to 2,000 sat or beyond, 6 months, additional 5 million PESA will be donated to us by the community.

How about that?

If you deliver, you will be handsomely compensated; if you don't, you wont. That's incentive. That's how thinks get done.
1784  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Coin Sale LIVE! |Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 29, 2014, 03:28:59 AM
The Terms and Conditions need to be amended to reflect the new Terms and Conditions.

@ Jay

You haven't answered my previous questions:

1.- Will there ever be no more than the 10 million bergstake that is offered in the ICO?

2.- Will these 10 million be enough to secure the network?

Thanks.
1785  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core on: October 29, 2014, 02:02:04 AM
There is nothing Federal about the IRS, in fact if they cannot prove you are holding coins, or prove that you accidentally did not delete your coins well you can throw that case out the window.

scaremongering by the trio sock stooges.

For people who want to stay informed and not following idiotic, irresponsible nonsense like the one this individual just posted: Here, from the horse's (Federal) mouth: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-14-21.pdf

Edit to add:

So we are as clear of ignorance as we possibly can, the IRS, which is a Federal organization enforced by the FBI, can and do do this too: http://cointelegraph.com/news/112814/irs-seizes-assets-on-suspicion-only-bitcoin-could-be-next
1786  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BITTREX ICO 46 HOURS LEFT] ██ EquinoxCoin ██ [short version of thread] on: October 28, 2014, 09:01:05 PM
Let me see here... anonymous devs (actually a screen tells you it is the management (Huh)... self-moderated thread... I'm going to run real fast, not walk...
1787  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core on: October 28, 2014, 08:32:20 PM
Can we please close this thread down with the last post being the link to http://vericoinforums.com  I don't see what useful purpose this thread serves right now other than for the paid haters to keep doing their job.

+1

It's bordering on the absurd.... no, it is absurd.  Close it. Link to http://vericoinforums.com. Maybe open it to post anns, but seriously, nothing good is coming from leaving it open, imo.


And it is the cause of the low price also... furthermore, some of us maybe even blaaaack! gay for sure... Oh the horror, the horror...
1788  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░ GAIA Coin [Extensible][Skinnable][Modular][Bittrex] ░▒▓█ on: October 28, 2014, 08:25:05 PM
Thanks barabbas,

you show no concern about GAIA project itself, so you did not see any other problem than the moderated thread.
That by itself is fine. There is a lot of scams and mismanaged ICO's out there. So for me to prove to you we are not like that,
is virtually impossible before you see the work we have done.
I hope you actually download the client when we put it up, and give us some feedback then.
I will be around to answer you, or anyone else who has a concern.




I don't know anything about your project at all so It would be quite frivolous if I'd say anything else about it other than the facts that you are anonymous and your thread is self-moderated are, in my opinion, reasons more than enough to run, not walk.

Given those, I will follow my own advice and stay as far away from your project as I can.
1789  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░ GAIA Coin [Extensible][Skinnable][Modular][Bittrex] ░▒▓█ on: October 28, 2014, 06:24:49 PM

Actually almost every coin now has a moderated thread because there is a financial motivation attached to fud.
Some coins even abandoned BCT altogether because of fud. That does not mean we will.
We will deal with it as it comes, and answer it accordingly. Not baseless gloom and doom. 
We are not against anyone bringing concerns, as long as they are legitimate concerns.
Things we won't tolerate is big red letters and talking about other projects negatively.
If you think that is too much to handle you can start your own thread and post whatever you like.




Soory but no. There's only one reason for self-moderated forums: censoring what you dont like to read or others to read. You cannot be "a little free". Either are or are not. Here, you are not.

The  "financial motivation" is here alright: to scam people. That's the only one.

But i'm done. Over and out.
1790  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]GAIA Platform Launch, 4+ POD Rating on: October 28, 2014, 05:32:19 PM
can i lol ?
i lol again!

yes you can , i also wanna lol again ,  , without ICO nothing
to do ? Cheesy  self-moderated topic with ico lol

Most Topics are self moderated now, that's not an issue anymore.
if you have a question please feel free to ask. if lol is all you want then feel free.


That's what you choose to believe; you will find out soon enough though. From where I stand, self-moderated + dev anonymity = run as fast as you can.

It is not jus "an issue"; it's THE issue.
1791  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core on: October 28, 2014, 07:27:23 AM


 hey let us all ignore the veri real and veri serious discussion on the issue of regulation and the potential of vericoins only feature worth any value, Veribit, being shutdown and the devs being sent cease and desist orders plus possibly heavy fines and worse due to it operating as a unlicensed EMT in violation of the PA/BSA/AMLs/KYC guidelines to point out spelling errors...

thats quite a few things to be worried about and that is not even bringing the SEC into the picture...

so pat yourself on the back for pointing out someone made a spelling error and for having your "fun with the trolls" as you called it...

edit: for those that do not know...

PA=Patriot Act  
BSA=Bank Secrecy Act
AML=Anti Money Laundering Laws
KYC=Know Your Customer guidelines


oh and I can also veri much assure you I am not a puppet as you have declared I must be... ereborltc.
 





There are other institutions already on top of it, like the IRS (Internal Revenue Service), already with Federal Laws in place, which insists in knowing how many, EXACTLY, in digital coins you have to tax you on it.
1792  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 28, 2014, 07:19:10 AM
48 hours is too short a period of time, hardly enough to get the BTC to you on time. Why the rush?

The 6000 Bro per BTC have 6000 Bergstake, right?

For Jay- How does Bergstake behaves when mining, does high number of bergstake have preference over small numbers like in the NEXT case?

Thanks!

We are only offering 6000 BRO per btc for a 48 hour period to give others a sufficient chance to buy-in at the bonus level.  After that period, we will be offering 3000 BRO per btc until the "coins sale" closes or we reach a sufficient number of btc needed to complete the project.  We will close the sale early once if we reach that number early, we do not want to accept any more btc than necessary to finish and showcase the products.

Do you suggest a longer period than 48 hours?

Given the announcement was just made, I think 5 days is more reasonable for the flash sale @6000 BRO per btc.

As Barabbas said, most people get paid at the end of the month, and the 31st Oct, is still 4 days away.

We are all ears, we are taking all the feedback into consideration and are leaning toward extending the bonus period to allow others time to take advantage of the extra coins being made available. 

-- I believe you should extend the "bonus price" of 1BTC = 6,000 BRO + 6,000 bergstake until the end of the ICO.


. I'm sorry Barabbas but that's not fair to early investors.
. Where is the incentive to early investors if they extend the "bonus price" of 1BTC = 6,000 BRO until the end of the ICO Huh
. Why would I invest my BTC now, while you enjoy investing your BTC elsewhere for the next 22 days, then come back here to invest in Breakoutcoin at the last day of the ICO Huh

. 2 to 5 days is more than enough to allow anyone to take part of the "bonus price" of 1BTC = 6,000 BRO, especially with end of month payrolls coming in 4 days.

. Time to exit from your other investments if you're really serious about this one ...

In my opinion the only incentive should be to get in at the ICO price before if sells out. That should be enough of an incentive. Coming in the first of the 100th should be completely irrelevant, as long as there's supply.

It isn't a matter of convenience for investors, it is a matter of reaching objectives for the issuers of the ICO.
1793  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: October 28, 2014, 07:14:57 AM
That's a new one. Last time I believe you were pretending I was IE...
1794  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: October 28, 2014, 06:11:43 AM
So back to the old (no Black Hand this time around, ah?) stomping grounds after, as fully predicted, going to the singles... and staying there, I  see.

Maarx and Vizique out... no more PR contracts I imagine...

Interesting... no, not really.
none of them is "out", but of course you know that.
And now go back to VRC or whereever you found your next troll cave after you left us about a dozen times.

And to think that you would have had 4 times as much money as you have if you would only have listened...

But everyone gets what he deserves, some times...
1795  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 28, 2014, 05:36:21 AM
-- I believe you should extend the "bonus price" of 1BTC = 6,000 BRO + 6,000 bergstake until the end of the ICO.  After that, the market will determine the price of BRO.

The ICO effectively extends until all the coins allotted for it have sold. If they don't tier pricing until those coins are gone, then the only investment strategy is wait and see. But with a wait and see market, funds never become available to achieve the development goals. People end up waiting to see for ever and the project never releases.


Obviously I am on the other side of that fence. In my favor that only minimal investment has come so far, I believe in part because people need time to get their minds around the entire concept, perhaps do some research of gaming sites, accumulate BTC, etc. Although I am aware that this project is different, Ethereum did not put any pressure in time and the money came flooding. So did for SuperNET. I am quite convinced that adequately presented to the crypto community this will be fully subscribed before the original ICO period is over. People should be rushed by the fear not to be on time to benefit from the IPO price because people would buy all available coins/bergstake, NOT because the devs need a quarter of a million dollars to finish a working platform.

I could be wrong, of course
1796  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 28, 2014, 05:16:43 AM
48 hours is too short a period of time, hardly enough to get the BTC to you on time. Why the rush?

The 6000 Bro per BTC have 6000 Bergstake, right?

For Jay- How does Bergstake behaves when mining, does high number of bergstake have preference over small numbers like in the NEXT case?

Thanks!

We are only offering 6000 BRO per btc for a 48 hour period to give others a sufficient chance to buy-in at the bonus level.  After that period, we will be offering 3000 BRO per btc until the "coins sale" closes or we reach a sufficient number of btc needed to complete the project.  We will close the sale early once if we reach that number early, we do not want to accept any more btc than necessary to finish and showcase the products.

Do you suggest a longer period than 48 hours?

Given the announcement was just made, I think 5 days is more reasonable for the flash sale @6000 BRO per btc.

As Barabbas said, most people get paid at the end of the month, and the 31st Oct, is still 4 days away.

We are all ears, we are taking all the feedback into consideration and are leaning toward extending the bonus period to allow others time to take advantage of the extra coins being made available. 

-- I believe you should extend the "bonus price" of 1BTC = 6,000 BRO + 6,000 bergstake until the end of the ICO.  After that, the market will determine the price of BRO.

-- Since there very limited specific information, I am going to assume that there will be only 10 million bergstake, ever. Now, Jay is that enough to keep a safe network operational? If it will be safely operational, I would reduce the bergstake to 500,000 BRO per year to keep it interesting in term of % of interest (5% on average), not be a deal breaker for the small investors and reduce the inflation rate of the coin.

-- But I still believe this is rushed, horribly timed and although I am aware that significant investment in time, perhaps minimum guarantees and work has already been done, there are still too many loopholes, chief among which is a testable working platform, at least on Alpha state. Other considerations such a permits and insurance should also be contemplated. The sheer magnitude of the project deserves such considerations, especially expectying the quite generous valuation you are giving to the whole project.

Just my opinion.
1797  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: October 28, 2014, 04:42:03 AM
So back to the old (no Black Hand this time around, ah?) stomping grounds after, as fully predicted, going to the singles... and staying there, I  see.

Maarx and Vizique out... no more PR contracts I imagine...

Interesting... no, not really.
1798  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 28, 2014, 03:26:13 AM
Same as NEXT then. It is a problem because small investors will get minimal benefits from bergstake.

Over a long enough time, they will get a benefit proportional to their investment.

the other option is to provide an interest rate on all bergstake instead of a block reward system...  

That would be much better IMO. But where does the interest come from?
1799  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 28, 2014, 03:01:11 AM
48 hours is too short a period of time, hardly enough to get the BTC to you on time. Why the rush?

The 6000 Bro per BTC have 6000 Bergstake, right?
yes

Quote
For Jay- How does Bergstake behaves when mining, does high number of bergstake have preference over small numbers like in the NEXT case?

each bergstake has the same chance of solving the next block, so yes a larger amount of bergstake will give you a better chance of solving the block.



Same as NEXT then. It is a problem because small investors will get minimal benefits from bergstake.
1800  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 28, 2014, 02:56:37 AM
48 hours is too short a period of time, hardly enough to get the BTC to you on time. Why the rush?

The 6000 Bro per BTC have 6000 Bergstake, right?

For Jay- How does Bergstake behaves when mining, does high number of bergstake have preference over small numbers like in the NEXT case?

Thanks!

We are only offering 6000 BRO per btc for a 48 hour period to give others a sufficient chance to buy-in at the bonus level.  After that period, we will be offering 3000 BRO per btc until the "coins sale" closes or we reach a sufficient number of btc needed to complete the project.  We will close the sale early once if we reach that number early, we do not want to accept any more btc than necessary to finish and showcase the products.

Do you suggest a longer period than 48 hours?

Yes, a MUCH longer period than that. At least 7 days (many people is paid at the end of the month).

And after this re-structuring I don't have clear at all what the amount of total coins will be. Lets try to figure it out with one scenario by which the 1000 BTC is reached within the first 7 days. That means 6 million coins and software fully funded. Then what? Lets also assume that the other 4 million coins are also sold. What is left? 2.5 million for developers, etc.? and 7 million for promotions, bounties, etc. Total 19.5 million plus 1 million more for bergstake, 20.5 million by the end of the first year. That's just 10% of the total coins... which will be owned by Breakout Gaming? Am I getting this correctly?
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