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2101  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cryptopia day 4 of 500 error on: May 08, 2018, 01:40:17 PM
2102  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: May 08, 2018, 11:42:26 AM
Wow u should really get some help dude and stop drinking gasoline straight from the pump and sniffing paint thinner it rots your brain.

Your post has been reported , not that i think that they will do anything but slander shouldnt be tollerated.


Accusing me of substance abuse, needing help for substance abuse and having brain damage is not slander ? Your post has been reported.

That sockpuppet account that you have been so busy defending slandered and abused quite a few people. I haven't said one disrespectful thing about "sluppy" prior to you blocking me and your support of NetfetMiningCompanys despite his obvious and continuous abuse speaks volumes.

Abuse towards support staff is inexcusable. The fact that you think it should be tolerated as "part of the job" is vile.

@xtraelv
Apparently you cant read .. I'm done with u .. you are now on my Ignore list and I wont be reading anymore of your half page stories.
I will be withdrawing my funds from Cryptopia and I wont be back.

You "ignored" me for less than three hours. I really don't mind if you and your sockpuppets ignore me longer.

For someone who is withdrawing all their funds and won't be back - why keep checking for posts here ?

Please tell me some more fairy tales.

Goodbye.....or are you coming back again ?
2103  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: May 08, 2018, 10:32:12 AM
Hi xtraelv,

if u are able to reach directly to someone on cryptopia, i'm still with my problem and noone from support respond me.


I sent you a Personal Message with instructions.

When LOGGED OUT you can view instructions on this link as well https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Support
2104  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: May 08, 2018, 09:47:24 AM
Вы сами пробовали открыть и создать тикет? Как только нажимаешь это страница не открывается и выходит ошибка. Там невозможно создать тикет. Я пишу письма им на почту noreply@cryptopia.co.nz но они даже не отвечают. Что странно никто не может записать видео в ютубе что такая у них проблема. Могла бы это биржа хоть создать группу в телеграмме службу поддержки


 no reply  @cryptopia.co.nz  =   без ответа @cryptopia.co.nz

Выйдите из системы и войдите в систему, затем перейдите к https://support.cryptopia.co.nz/csm/]https://support.cryptopia.co.nz/csm/]https://support.cryptopia.co.nz/csm/



2105  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: May 08, 2018, 08:33:53 AM
Which one are you ? Concerned user


Dude .. there is no way u can justify a response like this.

You are a service provider he is a Customer.

You might not like what hes saying but when u threaten people like that you are allways 100% wrong.

If u cant keep your cool you need to get a new job.

I expect an public apology to this user asap.


Or aggrieved customer ?

@xtraelv

Apparently you cant read .. I'm done with u .. you are now on my Ignore list and I wont be reading anymore of your half page stories.

Lafu is 100% wrong and should not be representing a million dollar company in any capacity if he cant control his temper.

I will be withdrawing my funds from Cryptopia and I wont be back.


 

BUSTED ! sluppy and NetfetMiningCompany are sockpuppets of the same person !





Hahahaha what a SCAMMER using sockpuppets ! It looks like NetfetMiningCompany failed to log out of his sockpuppet account. First posing as another concerned user and then posted as the aggrieved customer NetfetMiningCompany while still logged in as sluppy ! CLASSIC !
2106  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: May 08, 2018, 08:26:50 AM
The only way money can move without your approval (withdraw email, what have you), is if someone on the inside moved it....Food for thought. These people arent your friend, they arent there to help you, they dont want to go out of their way to do so either. As much as they claim to do so. Treat them as such.

Not true. Every compromised account had not used dynamic 2FA or disabled 2FA altogether. In the security settings you can disable email notification.

People were fooled by google advertisements, fake apps on the playstore and malicious malware bots.

If you get phished you are effectively giving the scammer your logon email address, your password and your static pin.

If the static pin is the same as the one that protects your security settings then the scammer can turn the email notifications off.

It is like giving someone the desctiption, location and keys to your car and blaming the carpark for it getting stolen.



Scammers are very sly - can you spot the difference between the real https://www.cryptopia.co.nz and the fake https://www.cryptopía.co.nz ?

Click on them and see the difference.

Scammers are even getting security certificates for their clone sites.

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Forum/Thread/5153

2107  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: May 08, 2018, 07:05:45 AM

Nobody should have to go up and down research a coin that has made it onto an exchange as big as them. Thats their freakin job as a finance company. Clearly they cant be trusted in more ways then people want to acknowledge.

Not doing your research on a coin is plain foolish.

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/RiskStatement



Cryptopia also provides links to third party websites that assist in doing research https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/CoinInfo

It is essential that people research their coins before buying them on ANY exchange. Coins PAY Cryptopia to be listed there.



Says the person who doesn't even want to state what the coin their problem is with.

It genuinely doesnt matter. Thats why. If you REALLY wanna know you will take 2 seconds to read 2 pages. I wont feed your laziness. Plus your arguments make no sense, as well as have nothing to do with anything I have to say. Its just a waste of time talking to you.



Looks like other people are catching on they cant get help anywhere else. So they are posting here....Shocker. I wish you luck my friend. They took mine. I was also blackmailed when I got upset. That dipstick above also thinks its a "moderate" response to blackmail someone LOL.

I have addressed everything that you have previously said and you made no attempt to respond to any of it. You are still reposting the same nonsense and "strawmen" that has already been debunked. There is no reasonable excuse to be rude or obnoxious when you are making support tickets and you should not trade on a site that has a "no tolerance policy towards abuse directed at staff"  if you lack the impulse control and moral turpitude to talk to people in a civil manner. You also have shown that you had no actual interest in resolving the issues in a timely manner and have no interest in researching the coins you invest in.

There has been no blackmail. Lafus poorly worded response has to be seen in the context of what you were doing and saying. You were clearly baiting and he foolishly fell for it. You were asked a number of times not to be abusive and you even provided a screenshot that proves that you have been asked to stop being abusive. Being abusive does not help your situation and is a violation of the terms of service.
2108  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: May 08, 2018, 06:13:18 AM
Hello. Help me please. If there are admins there would be excellent. I have a problem with the output. Previously, all inputs and outputs were without problems. This time the conclusion is stuck. I do not even know what to do. Output tokens LIVE. Tell me how to be. I will be grateful. Thank you in advance

Cryptopia staff don't usually go on bitcointalk in any official capacity.

https://support.cryptopia.co.nz/csm/

Top right is for making a support ticket. I recommend making the support ticket in your native language because I don't understand what you are trying to say.

Cryptopia has different staff members that speak multiple languages.

2109  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: May 08, 2018, 04:06:02 AM

Clearly u have never worked as a service provider when you handle other peoples stuff there are allways going to be unhappy people yelling at u about things u can probably do nothing about yourself BUT u CAN NOT threaten a customer by saying either u do what I want or I will make sure your problem does not get fixed .. If someone would say something like that on a monitored call they would be out on their ass by the end of the day.

If hes a Paid employee of Cryptopia or not he is representing them when he starts telling customers that they will not get support or help unless they do what he  sais that's pretty much blackmail.

I did read most of the discussion sure the User is beeing a bit of a dick but thats not the point .. he is a Customer and the Fing customer is allways right .. so as a service provider u look past all the insults or whatever u can NEVER get into a mudslinging contest or make threats .. cryptopia is managing Millions of other peoples money .. u Simply cannot do this .. the ammount of money 10 bucks is totally irrelevant.


I already stated that Lafu is not a paid employee. He is a volunteer moderator.

He escalated the issue to an internal channel that moderators have to talk with the staff.

I don't see him blackmailing at all. It was just a broken English way of saying I've tried to escalate this for you but if you continue being abusive it will affect this from being resolved. I have already stated that I don't agree with the words that were used and do not reflect the opinion of Cryptopia.
No staff member will deliberately slow the progress of resolving a support ticket and moderators have no control over the process. However - abuse and threats are not tolerated and can hinder the issue from getting resolved.

Lafu should have just ignored his comments on here rather than be baited by the taunts. Lafu is passionate about Cryptopia and despite having been told that bitcointalk is just a cesspool for trolls and scammers took offense and reacted when he was clearly being baited.

The Terms of use clearly state:

You must not use this site for fraudulent or other unlawful activity or otherwise do anything to damage or disrupt this site.

Threats towards Cryptopia Ltd. Staff will result in immediate termination of all related accounts, including seizure of all on-site digital property.

These terms of use and any matters or disputes connected with this site will be governed by New Zealand laws and will be dealt with in New Zealand courts.

Harmful Digital Communications Act 2015
Health and Safety at Work Act 2015
Employment Relations Act 2000
Summary Offences Act 1981

All relate to specific types of abuse and a legal requirement for an employer to protect their employees and volunteers from such abuse and threats.
I'm not sure in what country you live but under New Zealand law it is illegal to be abusive in a workplace and in some cases it is a criminal offense to be abusive or threatening towards staff.

Abusive clients (including cursing) can legally be permanently excluded from business premises and refused service or in extreme cases even arrested for offensive behaviour.

New Zealand doesn't have a First Amendment which people can hide behind as an excuse for being unreasonably rude and obnoxious. The way this user has been speaking to staff and his conduct is not excusable.

Cryptopia staff generally don't go on bitcointalk at all and it is the only website specifically blocked on their trollbox chat. Social media is not an appropriate forum for support issues to be resolved.



It is clear that this customer has been particularly abusive in contravention of the terms of use.

Abuse is something that a customer can control. It is not an unreasonable requirement. If they can't control it then they should trade elsewhere.

The customer is not always right - it is a misconception. Here is why:

Businesses Have Limited Resources - Entrepreneurs are not omnipotent, neither are their employees. Most businesses, especially the fledgling ones, operate with limited resources including limited time, funds, and energy. Every business experience its share of grudging customers, who, whatever might be done to satisfy their needs, will continue to complain.

It Adds Misery to Employees - malicious, rude, snappy consumers - Cryptopia doesn't want their business.

Customers Are Not Omniscient - Customers are often upset because the products don't function the way they want them to. They can go to any extent and demand unrealistic even ludicrous things.

You Don't Want Every Customer - Not all customers are indispensable and businesses must accept that. It is better to let go of a persistently complaining and abusive customer who only end up creating stress amongst the employees. This is irrespective of the amount the customer pays for your product.

“Clients do not come first. Employees come first. If you take care of your employees, they will take care of the clients.” ― Richard Branson

2110  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [ANN] Bittrex - Next generation exchange (btc/ltc/eac/ppc/rdd/ftc/and more) on: May 07, 2018, 12:55:02 PM
poloniex beside US too, but they aren't act like Bittrex and scam their users. at least Bittrex should wearing their users and give them time to withdraw their funds. that is if Bittrex was a lighnt exchange.

https://news.bitcoin.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-poloniex-bought-circle/

Poloniex will change too.

Bittrex is preparing to cater for the big big growth phase - the wallstreet traders. For that they have to have a higher standard of compliance and it will put them under further scrutiny.

I believe that exchanges that are of vague owneship or country of residence like HITbtc, Binance and Yobit may become increasingly a target for regulators.

In order to become a mainstream accepted exchange they have to comply with a variety of existing laws and increasing regulation.

HiTbtc is based in Europe? Binance is in Malta and that place is very friendly to crypto. And Yobit is I guess in Russia? Ffs, Yobit should cease to exist. It is a shame that the Russian government is not shutting that scammy exchnage. Yobit don't deserve to be mentioned with exchanges like Binance and Hitbtc. Grin

HITbtc UK company registration looks suspicious because it appears they never lodged any financial accounts and got deregistered for failing to file. Since then they moved to Hong Kong registration:
Hit Solution Limited
Unit 19, 7/F., One Midtown No.11 Hoi Shing Road,
Tsuen Wan, New Territories, Hong Kong

Binance has been running into a lot of legal trouble lately in Asia — in Hong Kong, China, and Japan, where it primarily operates. Binance was one of the seven cryptocurrency exchanges that received a warning letter from the Securities and Futures Commission https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/03/23/binance-europe-japan-hong-kong-china/  

If you read the Binance TOS it states: The operator of BINANCE means the legal entity that, recognized by law, operates the networking platform. - but it fails to state who that operator is.  Zhao Changpeng lives in hotel rooms and the exchange is in an undisclosed location.
I like their platform and their service appears to be reliable. But I am concious that there may problems locating the operator if things go wrong - or if the authorities crack down on licensing.

Yobit is based somewhere in Russia and despite their bad reputation I have had some surprisingly positive experiences with them.  



https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09239668/filing-history was formed later and also dissolved. Then the company moved to Hong Kong.
Lack of registration is also confirmed here: https://digiconomist.net/fraud-risk-assessment-hitbtc
2111  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cryptopia turning into a scam? on: May 07, 2018, 12:30:08 PM
I lost thousands @ cryptopia.  I don't care how much better they got.  I'm sure people who lost money there from lack of support feel the same way.

It's how they handled the situation.  They were attacking customers here and not even an apology to the folks who lost money.  Excuse after excuses for their negligence.

Cryptopia staff rarely go onto bitcointalk.

They and staff of other exchange sites do not need to go to bitcointalk. It's not necessary because they can support requests at the site.

I agree. Support requests through social media is just a invitation for scammers to phish users.
2112  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cryptopia turning into a scam? on: May 07, 2018, 12:27:32 PM
I lost thousands @ cryptopia.  I don't care how much better they got.  I'm sure people who lost money there from lack of support feel the same way.

It's how they handled the situation.  They were attacking customers here and not even an apology to the folks who lost money.  Excuse after excuses for their negligence.

Now did you lost your money? They are laggy for sure, but as far as I can tell they didn't stole money to anyone...

When they had announced that they were doing a lot of upgrades he made a withdrawal or deposit and his coins got stuck. At that time their support response took a long time. During that time his coins lost value against BTC. He never lost any coins.
2113  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: May 07, 2018, 11:22:49 AM


Dude .. there is no way u can justify a response like this.

You are a service provider he is a Customer.

You might not like what hes saying but when u threaten people like that you are allways 100% wrong.

If u cant keep your cool you need to get a new job.

I expect an public apology to this user asap.


While I don't agree with Lafus reply you should read the whole thread.

Lafu does not live in an English speaking country.

Lafu is a volunteer chat moderator for Cryptopia and he was trying to help. He doesn't work there nor should have to put up with being insulted or abused.

The user he was replying made the following unsolicited accusations after Lafu re-posted an announcement made by the CEO of Cryptopia:


Quote
So stupid...Consider it a tip for the peace of mind that i know you steal from people.

Quote
The CEO is a blatant liar and a crook.

Quote
I posted a screenshot of no response and the dufus posts more bragging about how they are so good at customer service directly underneath it.

Quote
Lafus response is a pure insulting joke.
(Lafu didn't respond to him - he initially ignored him)

Different people react differently when confronted with rude people.

I've just proved in the post above that this user quoted the CEO out of context and applied the CEOs statement to a situation that occurred a month before he made the statement.

In some countries if you call someone a thief,  a liar,  "dufus" or "a joke" and it is not true then that is defamatory and insulting. All for $10 worth of Leviar coin.

The whole tone of that user is disrepectful and full of untruths.

Aimed at a guy that gives his spare time to help others.

Users have to realise that they cannot just throw a big toddler tantrum and expect no consequences. If there are technical issues then they take time to resolve. If they are rude they may get a rude response back. Cryptopia has a strict policy about abuse directed at staff and volunteers.

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It genuinely doesnt matter. Thats why. If you REALLY wanna know you will take 2 seconds to read 2 pages. I wont feed your laziness. Plus your arguments make no sense, as well as have nothing to do with anything I have to say. Its just a waste of time talking to you

I had to go through a hundred odd posts to figure out what he was talking about. If he was actually concerned about solving the issue he would have told me the issue.

He had an issue with a coin that has intermittent node connection issues and a block explorer that works intermittently.  It is highly likely that his stuck coins are caused by the problems with the coin network supplied nodes.

If you look at the insults that have been hurled at Lafu (and that English is his second language) his response is in comparison quite moderate.


Here is a translation on how it should read:

You talking big crap !  thats why im not reply to you !  

You are abusive and insulting so I didn’t reply to you.

By the way the support getting soon on your problem !

Support has your issue queued but it cannot be resolved until the issue that caused the problem is fixed.
The wallet is currently in maintenance so not operational.


This here isnt for Support things !

Bitcointalk is not an appropriate support channel.

I kicked your problem into our staff channel !  

I mentioned your issue in the volunteer moderators channel that we have to communicate with Cryptopia staff.

But if i read this shit here from you maybe i should tell them to wait with that ,

But if you continue abusing me I will just delete or ask them to ignore my message and let it go its normal course.

depends on yourself now if you stop with that crap talking and your issue gets sorted soon or not !

If you continue your abuse towards me I will stop trying to help you. Obviously this issue is very important to you
most users would just patiently wait till it can be sorted. I was making a special effort to get it resolved.


Think first before you move !

Consider your actions and how you treat others.

Should be the only reply from me to you !  

I’m not going to reply if your continue being abusive.



2114  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [ANN] Bittrex - Next generation exchange (btc/ltc/eac/ppc/rdd/ftc/and more) on: May 07, 2018, 06:22:20 AM
poloniex beside US too, but they aren't act like Bittrex and scam their users. at least Bittrex should wearing their users and give them time to withdraw their funds. that is if Bittrex was a lighnt exchange.

https://news.bitcoin.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-poloniex-bought-circle/

Poloniex will change too.

Bittrex is preparing to cater for the big big growth phase - the wallstreet traders. For that they have to have a higher standard of compliance and it will put them under further scrutiny.

I believe that exchanges that are of vague owneship or country of residence like HITbtc, Binance and Yobit may become increasingly a target for regulators.

In order to become a mainstream accepted exchange they have to comply with a variety of existing laws and increasing regulation.
2115  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cryptopia turning into a scam? on: May 07, 2018, 06:14:34 AM
I lost thousands @ cryptopia.  I don't care how much better they got.  I'm sure people who lost money there from lack of support feel the same way.

It's how they handled the situation.  They were attacking customers here and not even an apology to the folks who lost money.  Excuse after excuses for their negligence.

Cryptopia staff rarely go onto bitcointalk.
2116  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: May 06, 2018, 03:55:01 PM
Hey. Any news about MoneroV? Are you going to credit the coins?

Cryptopia doesn''t support forks that create new coins.
2117  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cryptopia day 4 of 500 error on: May 06, 2018, 02:05:11 PM
A very limited number of users are experiencing the 500 error.

I don't work for Cryptopia but I guess it is related to this: https://support.cryptopia.co.nz/csm/?id=kb_article&sys_id=ceeb443bdbe953009990f6fcbf9619d8



If you had PIN enabled for 2FA then you are asking for trouble. Being locked out is better than getting your crypto stolen by phishers.

I suspect for some users the changes didn't work.
2118  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cryptopia turning into a scam? on: May 06, 2018, 01:55:23 PM
New ticketing and help centre working great. Query answered within 24 hours. What a turnaround. Now for this exchange to get back to doing what it does and trading, this will go places.

They really struggled with support response from November to March due to an influx of new users. They recovered in March and April (and did some serious upgrades to their systems) and now have a 72 hour initial response target. More complex issues that require dev support take longer.
2119  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [ANN] Bittrex - Next generation exchange (btc/ltc/eac/ppc/rdd/ftc/and more) on: May 06, 2018, 12:24:46 PM


Why dont you upload your ID, have your account verified, withdraw your coins and never come back? I think some people dont have the proper IDs to have them verified. There are some people who have multi-accounts on the site which they dont want to be caught red handed wash trading low volume coins.

I am pretty sure that's what a lot of people are doing, otherwise how to you explain the sudden drop in Bittrex market share since they started this verification scam.  Remember the old adage, "only 4% of customers complain, 96% will simply go elsewhere"

I see it ending either with the Bittrex shareholders screaming blue murder, and forcing management to do the right thing by the clients to stop the exodus, or Bittrex quietly fades away as more honorable exchanges take over Bittrex clients. Remember the AML, KYC cover story for suspending withdrawals on unverified accounts is bogus on two fronts. Firstly, Bittrex don't do fiat. Secondly they could move their headquarters offshore if they wanted to do fiat and skip all the nonsense. Either way, the don't have a feasible excuse for suddenly seizing their customers funds and holding them ransom until they get private information (which has value) from them.
Good points, there is no justification for what bittrex have done, I refuse to hand over my personal details to people who act dishonestly , like changing terms and freezing accounts without a grace period. People who do this would also be likely to sell the user data for profit, and maybe you end up like that guy in England with 4 balaclava clad gangsters paying you and your family a visit one morning in a crypto home invasion.

It is actually a legal requirement from the US Government. Bittrex don't have a choice in it. It has to do with AML laws and trading with embargoed countries.
2120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] Poloniex - Crypto Exchange with BTC/NXT on: May 06, 2018, 12:19:51 PM
Sad to see how such a great service can fall so hard and fast

Most exchanges are experiencing high support volumes.

A lot of issues are caused by inexperienced users.

Coin networks that are straining under the volume.

Poorly coded coin wallets.

Poorly coded blockcains with bugs and exploits

Huge trade volumes that put strain on internal databases.

Massive BOT activity.

Malicious scammers that try to exploit, spam, phish and ddos crypto networks, exchanges and users..
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