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2741  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #GreeceBitcoinDrop on: June 29, 2015, 10:58:33 PM
Partially related: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/greek-bailout-fund
People are trying to collect 1.6 billion Euros to save Greece.

I hope some of the bitcoin collectors from drop gives to this campaign.

This is hilarious and ridiculous at the same time, although they already managed to get more funds than what everyone already donated using #GreeceBitcoinDrop Grin
2742  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [PRE-ORDER] Denarium Physical Bitcoin on: June 29, 2015, 10:12:43 PM
So, let me see if I got that correctly... Series L coins also come unloaded and by registering they get loaded? I thought they already came loaded (you guys even had those issues with not shipping to the USA, because you can't ship loaded coins there).

We don't pre-load them because the package would be much more valuable then. That would increase our losses if they get lost in mail and also add incentives to steal them. We could protect from this with insured mail but that is very expensive. Thus they are not loaded when shipped but loaded within 24 hours of activation which can be made by the customer upon delivery.

All right, sounds good. Thank you Smiley
2743  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [PRE-ORDER] Denarium Physical Bitcoin on: June 29, 2015, 09:43:35 PM
Here is the latest status update with pictures: https://twitter.com/DenariumBitcoin/status/614438586595864576

In short, we have assembled all pre-order coins and shipping will start *soon*. Our only bottleneck is the coin activation system which is still unfinished. As even the loaded coins are sent empty and loaded by the customer, we have been building an automated activation tool which is soon finished.

To be honest I'm not 100% sure if we are able to ship in June since we want to make sure the activation tool is solid. But we're very close now.

Also as it stands we will be shipping all of the orders within 1 week or so, once the shipping starts.

So, let me see if I got that correctly... Series L coins also come unloaded and by registering they get loaded? I thought they already came loaded (you guys even had those issues with not shipping to the USA, because you can't ship loaded coins there).

I hope you system gets ready soon so you can start shipping Smiley

In any case we are working as fast as we can. We don't want to be BFL #2 with our shipping...

Haha, yes, enough of BFL's, let's get the coins on the road Grin
2744  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #GreeceBitcoinDrop on: June 29, 2015, 09:14:43 PM
I guess things are picking up Wink https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3bj2af/twitter_changetip_campaign_for_greece/
2745  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Next level Bitcoin stress test -- June 29-30 13:00 GMT 2015 on: June 29, 2015, 07:30:41 PM
There are over 3000 unconfirmed transactions now. Is that the normal number?

There were quite a few closely spaced blocks but now the gaps are increasing and the last block was almost 1 MB. The tester said the test would run for 24 hours. Is there a chance it might start disrupting the network if it takes longer than normal to find blocks from now on?

Yes, it's a "normal" number. If blocks take longer, the impact would be bigger, as it would take more time for confirms to happen in relation to if blocks were found each and every 10 minutes... But it's worse when blocks don't include any transactions.
2746  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Brazil has more than 150 stores that accept bitcoin on: June 29, 2015, 06:11:34 PM
Brazil is huge, 150 stores is nothing Grin

Seriously speaking, this is good news. A huge country with a lot of tourism accepting Bitcoin in many places is always an amazing thing!

it's nothing if not growing anymore.. Grin
just wait for 1 or 2 years, and let's see what will happen.. Wink

That's true, I sure hope they grow more!

We grow from 30 to 150 in 6 months Smiley

Pretty impressive Smiley I wish that was on my country Grin
2747  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2015-06-29] CD: Kraken Opens Bitcoin Exchange in Canada on: June 29, 2015, 06:06:08 PM
Good news. I think Kraken has quite a nice service, good to see them spreading their nice trading platform to reach more customers.
2748  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #GreeceBitcoinDrop on: June 29, 2015, 06:02:06 PM
I see they're mostly singers/models/public figures... Would they easily advocate the adoption of Bitcoin? Would their main public be open to accept Bitcoin?

It would maybe work better if we raised awareness of personalities known in Greece to be agitators, instigators of public revolt, economists, government critics, political commentators, or something like that Smiley

Go ahead. Find some journalists, entrepreneurs with 10k+ followers on twitter who are in Greece and have tweeted in the last 24 hours.

Good question. I know nothing about the Greek society Smiley The only one that seemed to fulfill the "requirements" is this guy but I don't even know what he does, or if people listen to him.
2749  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [PRE-ORDER] Denarium Physical Bitcoin on: June 29, 2015, 03:11:31 PM
Remembered to check Denarium's website today and I now see an invoice has been added to my order, with today's date (nice coincidence!). Are the coins being shipped? This is the last week of June, after all... Grin
2750  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Arduino and Mining on: June 29, 2015, 03:01:57 PM
Not sure if you're going anywhere good with Arduino... Maybe you can adapt a mining chip there, I don't know, as I'm not an hardware expert. As for software, cgminer is highly customizeable, and with some coding skills it can be adapted to other boards and chips. After all, cgminer and it's forks are able to power pretty much all miners in existence... Smiley
2751  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #GreeceBitcoinDrop on: June 29, 2015, 02:57:53 PM
I see they're mostly singers/models/public figures... Would they easily advocate the adoption of Bitcoin? Would their main public be open to accept Bitcoin?

It would maybe work better if we raised awareness of personalities known in Greece to be agitators, instigators of public revolt, economists, government critics, political commentators, or something like that Smiley
2752  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Greece's first Bitcoin ATM installed on: June 29, 2015, 02:53:06 PM
I've already seen this BTM in another thread, but unfortunately it didn't have a video. Nice to see more BTM's spread around the world, but I do wonder if this one wasn't put there on purpose, during these times... Smiley

Anyways, by the looks of things, Greeks don't have money to spend there right now, as they can't withdraw from their banks...
2753  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Next level Bitcoin stress test -- June 29-30 13:00 GMT 2015 on: June 29, 2015, 02:49:44 PM
Only noticed this thread now. Not this again... Roll Eyes Although I see nobody clogging the network so far. Let's see where this goes...
2754  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ultimate Bitcoin Stress Test - Monday June 22nd - 13:00 GMT on: June 28, 2015, 09:04:54 PM
On monday, CoinWallet.eu conducted a stress test of the Bitcoin blockchain. Not only was our plan to see the outcome, but also to see how easy it would be for a malicious entity or government to create havoc for the Bitcoin community. As you will see from the analysis below, delayed transactions are not the only issue that Bitcoin users experienced.

Surprisingly, executing tens of thousands of transactions that correctly propagate to the network simultaneously is not as easy as we had expected. One of the methods that was used to increase the kb size of our transactions was to send transactions consisting of numerous small outputs (usually 0.0001) to make a single transaction of 0.01. A simple transaction is usually 225-500 bytes, while many of our transactions were 18 kb (A number which limits the blockchain to 5 transactions per minute). In our preliminary testing this was effective, however in practice it caused our servers to crash. Throughout the day and evening, our strategy and methodology changed multiple times.

Initially the plan was to spend 20 BTC on transaction fees to flood the network with as many transactions as possible. Due to technical complications the test was concluded early, with less than 2 BTC spent on fees. The events of yesterday were accomplished with less than €500.

Timeline

    11:57 GMT - Transaction servers initiated. Thousands of 700 kb transactions completed within the first 20 minutes. Transactions were used to break coins into small 0.0001 outputs.
    12:30 GMT - Servers begin sending larger 18kb transactions.
    14:10 GMT - Mempool size increases dramatically. Blockchain.info breaks.
    14:20 GMT - Our servers begin to crash. It becomes apparent that BitcoinD is not well suited to crafting transactions of this size.
    14:30 GMT - Our test transactions are halted while alternate solutions are created. The mempool is at 12 mb.
    17:00 GMT - Alternate transaction sending methods are started. Servers are rebooted. Mempool has fallen to 4mb.
    21:00 GMT - The stress test is stronger than ever. Mempool reaches 15 mb and more than 14000 transactions are backlogged. The situation is made worse by F2Pool selfishly mining two 0kb blocks in a row.
    23:59 GMT - 12 hours after starting, the test is concluded. Less than 2 BTC (€434) is spent on the test in total.

The following graph depicts the entire test from start to finish: https://anduck.net/bitcoin/mempool.png

Observations

Delayed confirmation times and large mempool buildups were not the only observation that came from our testing. Many more services were impacted than we had initially envisioned.

Blockchain.info

Over the past few months, Blockchain.info has become increasingly unreliable, however we are confident that yesterday's stress test had an impact on their website being offline or broken for 1/3 of the day. During periods where we sent excessive transactions, Blockchain.info consistently froze. It appeared as though their nodes were overwhelmed and simply crashed. Each time this occurred, the site would re-emerge 10-30 minutes later only to fail again shortly thereafter. Users of the blockchain wallet were unable to send transactions, login or even view balances during the downtimes. In response to our heavy Bitcoin usage, blockchain.info began to exclude certain transactions from their block explorer. This issue is explored further by the creators of Multibit, who can confirm that some transactions sent from their software were ignored by Blockchain, but were picked up by Blockr.

Bitcoin ATMs

Many ATMs operate as full nodes, however some ATMs rely on third party wallet services to send and receive transactions. The most prominent Bitcoin ATM of this type is Lamassu, which uses the blockchain.info API to push outgoing transactions from a blockchain.info wallet. Due to the blockchain.info issues, all Lamassu ATMs that use blockchain.info's wallet service were unavailable for the day.

MultiBit

Both versions of MultiBit suffered delayed transactions due to the test. Gary and Jim from MultiBit have created a full analysis from Multibit's perspective which can be read at https://multibit.org/blog/2015/06/23/bitcoin-network-stress-test.html

The outcome was that transactions with the standard fee in Multibit HD took as many as 80 blocks to confirm (Approximately 13 hours). Standard 10000 satoshi fee transactions took an average of 9 blocks to get confirmed. Multibit has stated that they will be making modifications to the software to better cope with this type of event in the future.

Tradeblock

With Blockchain.info broken, we frequently referred to Tradeblock to track the backlog. Unfortunately Tradeblock was less than perfectly reliable and often failed to update when a new block had been mined. Regardless, at one point 15,000 unconfirmed transactions were outstanding.

Bitpay

Users reported issues with Bitpay not recognizing transactions during the test.

Price

Increase of $2. Contrary to some predictions, we did not short Bitcoin.

Green Address

While this app was not hindered directly by our test, we did send a series of 0.001 payments to a green address wallet. When attempting to craft a transaction from the wallet, an error occurs stating that it is too large. It appears that the coins that were sent to this wallet may be lost.

Conclusions

From a technical perspective, the test was not a success. Our goal of creating a 200mb backlog was not achieved due to miscalculations and challenges with pushing the number of transactions that we had desired. We believe that future tests may easily achieve this goal by learning from our mistakes. There are also numerous vulnerable services that could be exploited as part of a test, including Bitcoin casinos, on-chain gambling websites, wallets (Coinbase specifically pointed out that a malicious user could take advantage of their hosted wallet to contribute to the flooding), exchanges, and many others. Users could also contribute by sending small amounts to common brain wallets.

We also learned that the situation could have been made worse by sending transactions with larger fees. We sent all transactions with the standard fee of 10000 satoshis per kb. If we had sent with 20000 satoshis per kb, normal transactions would have experienced larger delays. In our future stress tests, these lessons will be used to maximize the impact.


Thank you for your test and insights about what happened. You clearly showed how easy it is to cripple Bitcoin and make it move way slower. Since you very much proven your point, I don't see another test as necessary. It would only cost you money, time and patience to prove something that you already managed to prove really well.
2755  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is there a Bitcoin backed bank? on: June 28, 2015, 08:53:30 PM
I seriously hope nobody remembers to make a Bitcoin backed bank... That's just subverting the deepest meaning of Bitcoin.
2756  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2015-06-27] CT - The Greek Dilemma: Hyper Inflation, Austerity, or Bitcoin? on: June 28, 2015, 08:30:54 PM
I'm afraid the only option for them is Austerity. Switching to Bitcoin wouldn't to them any good. They would still have a huge debt in Euros... And that's their problem, not currency, their problem is debt Cheesy
2757  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Brazil has more than 150 stores that accept bitcoin on: June 28, 2015, 05:36:25 PM
Brazil is huge, 150 stores is nothing Grin

Seriously speaking, this is good news. A huge country with a lot of tourism accepting Bitcoin in many places is always an amazing thing!
2758  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Using an off-chain service vs. accepting zero confirmation transactions? on: June 28, 2015, 02:31:58 PM
I'd definitely go with accepting 0 confirm transactions. After all the things happening with Bitcoin, trusting coins to a third party is something that I simply cannot do. I think the risk of depositing coins on a service is way bigger than the risk of a double spend, or another kind of attack...

There are also technologies being developed to make transactions faster within the Bitcoin network. Let's see if those evolve and take off. Meanwhile, 0 confirm it is.
2759  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Volatile Bitcoin still isn't money on: June 28, 2015, 02:12:32 PM
It is obviously money. Volatility doesn't stop people from accepting it (if the price decreases, it's a good opportunity to stack more coins by selling exactly the same thing...). The scale is obviously different, but fiat currencies aren't static either...
2760  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is this guy showing bitcoin logo to the world ? on: June 27, 2015, 10:55:13 PM
I've seen that image around on the internet and I was actually dying to know who it was! Amazing. This guy deserves an award Grin
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