BTW I read your article, it was not only horribly written, it holds no logic. His whole argument is that America is becoming fascist because the economy is stalling and there is wealth inequality.
when inequality increases authoritarians emerge trying to keep the order. Trump is the kind of guy that US helped to take power in other countries before, now the country is proving its own poison. concentration camps
they are concentration camps. what he is really describing is the results of Socialism and Communism overtaking this nation, calling it fascist, then using this resentment to attack what remains of the institutions that are still managing to hold this country together.
can you see your own resentment? It is classic deconstructionism and Critical Theory right out of The Frankfurt School. In fact, looking at his other articles, all of the topics consist of hysterical "chicken little" doomsday anti-American trash. He is the archetypal limp wristed beta male soy boy Commie cuck who caters to people like him who want to be reassured in their hysteria.
you can point "hey that's the evil frankfurt school" but you can't say what's wrong. frankfurt school doomsday chicken little commie cuck stuff yeeha! When a fire starts, firemen appear to put out the fire. Does that make everyone who approaches a fireman? Well shit, since you declared them to be concentration camps with absolutely zero substantiation, that is absolute proof! Yeah why would I resent Communists who destroy the very fabric and culture that holds society together as they call those resisting it fascists and blame them for the results of their own work? I absolutely can say what is wrong, I just know that first of all you don't care about logic, history, or evidence and even if you did you probably don't even have the capability to examine your own ideologies critically. This is proven by the fact that most of your retorts here consist of "NO U!" However anyone with those abilities and cares can research The Franfurt School, and Critical Theory and find for themselves what is wrong with it, and how your ideology stems directly from it. |
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I never claimed you made the graph. No it is not the "standard" way to make graphs, graphs are literally just pictures in a set scale that can take any form the creator desires. You are ignorant because you don't understand the mechanism used to create more visual impact using a specifically formed graph than the actual number support. There is also no lack of data to do it correctly as you proved immediately after by linking a graph without the manipulated spike by cutting off the upper end and jamming all it into the last bar. Now you are making arguments based on the authority of data collectors? Every statement you make just exposes your ignorance more. The data is fine, the way it is presented is manipulative, and the fact that you don't know how this works as a self proclaimed educator is honestly terrifying. I know there is no table after $250k, are you now switching positions and arguing my point now so you can claim you were the one right all along? That's pretty pathetic. All you are doing is making excuse after half baked excuse why they couldn't have used an extended chart, and all of it is bullshit. The chart you originally presented was designed to be manipulative and you took the bait hook line and sinker, now you are desperately trying to pretend you didn't because you know it makes you look exceptionally ignorant. Also, I never said anything about "cherry picking" you did. I simply pointed out that you are unaware of how this graph format can be used manipulatively, and there is just no excuse for this as some one who claims to be an educator. |
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That change is not even relevant in the context of the point. You haven't thought about a motive for making it look bigger other than saving space. You talk about critical thinking but never stop to think about why I would want to show a chart that made it look like there were a lot more of these "poor rich" people than there really are. What does that change? It makes it look like a smaller chunk of the people making 250k+ are making close to 250k. But why stop there? Why not add a 300,000? 350,000? 400,000? Every chart has to draw the line somewhere or it will just go on forever until it includes the highest earner. Remember back to my main point that most earners are making around 60k. A big peak at 250k+ does not help that point because it makes it look like all of those people are making arbitrarily "250k" when many of them are making several times that much. The more precise chart actually supports my point that the hypothetical doctor/lawyer making 300k and scraping by in San Francisco is an extreme example and their situation is not representative of the typical person earning that much. My point needs the bars to appear as small as possible because I am arguing that a system which benefits everyone who makes less than 300k is a system that improves life for the overwhelming majority of Americans. In summary, you are angry that I posted a standard graph and not a graph that would have been in even stronger support of my point. The last post makes me wonder if you even understand what the graphs are showing. Shorter bars= less people which means less people would be in the income range of the adverse affects you are worried about from the tax increase. Ie, they can afford it. Most income distribution graphs are done like the one I originially posted. I'd say that is the standard. Pew research has a reputation of not being biased. Here is another stretched out one for you. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/John_Boik/publication/265332674/figure/fig4/AS:652973172588544@1532692344063/2010-US-family-income-distribution-bars-and-normal-curve-dotted84.pngAll of them convey the same point that most earners make a lot less than $300,000 and that that is in fact, on the high end of the distribution. Theres an infinite number of ways to scale graphs and people who are familiar with the concepts being portrayed are generally able to interpret the visual deficiencies and scale tradeoffs of the graphs. I guess when you run out of points you can start nitpicking graphs in ways that aren't relative to the argument being made. It is very relevant, and I explained why already. Simply declaring it not the case is not an argument. You are the one who came up with the "saving space" horse shit story to make excuses for why the graph could not be extended out, not me. The point is the chart is deceptive in that it looks like all of a sudden there are a huge amount of people that make proportionally way more money by cropping the graph in such a way. The fact that we even need to have this discussion tells me you are either totally incompetent as an educator or quite disingenuous. Perhaps a bit of both? You are doing some pretty crazy semantic back flips and inversions to try to make this make sense some how. You sourced the graph as part of your argument, now when I am critical of it I am nitpicking. You don't get to present an argument based on a source then cry when I deconstruct it, then call it irrelevant, unless you are arguing your own premise is irrelevant of course. This is all just a bunch of rhetoric and sophistry on your part. You are the verbal and intellectual equivalent of a little mechanical wind up monkey banging cymbals together. |
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Its not cheaper.
You're arguing that 46,500 for 2 months is cheaper than 65,000 for a lifetime. Yes its a smaller number but I don't even know what to say to that.
Even if we assume they magically get through the courts (225,000 case backlog right now) and get deported, they are simply back where they started. Nothing has been achieved/produced and all problems still exist. All that money is literally wasted.
The lifetime number actually accomplishes getting these people to safety, helping to solve the actual problem, and producing contributors to society. Financial costs aren't the only costs but you aren't adding in all the money they and the kids will pay in taxes once they get better education which is difficult to calculate. You're just assuming all immigrants will be a lifetime drain on society which is a racist/xenophobic pov.
Sorry, but you aren't a Jedi Knight, and those are the illegal alien droids we are looking for. It is observable fact it is cheaper. You don't even know what to say to that is another way of saying you are wrong but still insist on arguing for your ideology in absence of a logical argument. It is not the US taxpayers or the US government's job to care for EVERY FUCKING PERSON on the planet. That is not just an insane abuse against everyone who lives here legally and pays into that system, but totally not logistically possible. You are just pulling rabbits out of your ass to imagineer some unnamed unquanitfiable benefit that maybe might manifest in the far off future while the people here now are struggling with resources already stretched thin. You are literally making people here in this nation suffer so that you can feel better about yourself like a revolting self centered piece of virtue signalling shit as you accuse me of being racist to cover up for your complete ignorance. You are motivated only by emotion and logic is secondary if it is considered at all. Emotion doesn't fill bellies and keep people warm, logic does. |
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Many countries that have some socialist policies that people like to mis-represent as socialist today; are actually not socialist, and haven't been for some time.
but those are the policies the people being called socialists are pushing for. https://i.redd.it/93kjpbtearg21.jpgSo what is your argument, that because other people call these things Socialist, they must actually be Socialist? Socialists love to call the fruits of Capitalism Socialist, and the rot of Socialism Capitalist. This is why I have no respect for you, you can't manage basic levels of logic and you claim to educate people for a living. You are a fraud. |
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Sadly, our canadian friend of the politics space has done his time, I think it's time for another moderator... It's a great opportunity for Flying Hellfish to explore other venture and grow personally...
Generally, his has become way too politically implicated to provide an impartial moderation.
Specifically, his latest post deletion, because the editor of vanity fair having erased and article about weinstein/pedogate was canadian, and our proud defender of the northern state took it badly... it's so childish...
at least that's my feedback !
Don't be racist against Canadians. |
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I see, so because I some times watch humorous things I get all of my information from memes. Is that your logic? BTW check the name, its Dawkins. Next time you are being a condescending twat trying to source an author spell his name right. Related: "So, if you’re serious about your anti-fascism, now’s the time to load up on silly string, ski goggles, masks, hard knuckle gloves, and whatever you make those milkshakes with. POG might be on the run at the moment, but there’s an election season coming up, so we need to be prepared for anything. The important thing is to remain hysterical, and to be ready to respond to whatever emotional stimuli the ruling classes wave in our faces. The fate of democracy hangs in the balance." http://www.unz.com/chopkins/the-united-states-of-fascism-hysteria/sorry, you're right. thanks. I read his book many years ago. people often go to grammar and semantics when they don't have anything else. THANK YOU. at least it's not copy + paste from another far right clone blog. they have tons with the same layout it's funny. they don't even make a brand cause there are tons of these clones. and tons of bots to share their crap. "independent media" they say. Merica needs education and won't come from these blogs. people really get hurt in protests, i dont call that hysteria. it's not Counter Strike  I understand each person has his own experiences and perceptions.... now try this https://eand.co/fascisms-happening-in-america-because-america-doesn-t-understand-fascism-b1aeb101fc77before you protest, this is an individual blog, not a corporate clone pretending to be independent. [/quote] So your only retort to the points made in the article is sarcasm and to say that your source is better than my source because it is "more independent"? BTW I read your article, it was not only horribly written, it holds no logic. His whole argument is that America is becoming fascist because the economy is stalling and there is wealth inequality. He rambles on about concentration camps and other pathetically transparent cliches and hyperbole in a vain attempt to try to give this turd of an article substance. To top it all off, what he is really describing is the results of Socialism and Communism overtaking this nation, calling it fascist, then using this resentment to attack what remains of the institutions that are still managing to hold this country together. It is classic deconstructionism and Critical Theory right out of The Frankfurt School. In fact, looking at his other articles, all of the topics consist of hysterical "chicken little" doomsday anti-American trash. He is the archetypal limp wristed beta male soy boy Commie cuck who caters to people like him who want to be reassured in their hysteria. |
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300 if not more of my hours, for 2 of his.
My work is harder and takes more life span off my life.
His job is easy, and he gets benefits and a real pension.
My education took longer, learn how to do irrigation, spray, planting, tractor driving etc etc takes many years to be good at.
WTF IS THIS SYSTEM! It is sad I can`t even fucking smile with my $3600 teeth fix because of how depressing this shit is by the way I went to another one they wanted $6000 for the same job, always check your options people. Still a rip off either way.
Well you have fun blaming the dentist and never fixing the cause. |
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The graphic stops for the simple reason that a scale graphic that went all the way to the top income would be several times wider than the screen. It amazes me how densely the ignorance is packed into almost every one of your statements. Graphs can take any form the creator decides. It is called scale. The fact that you have seen so many manipulated charts that purposely scale in such a way to bring the most visual impact regardless of the numbers, and you think that is just how charts work demonstrates to me clearly you have zero awareness of how this is used to manipulate perception. https://econographics.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/household-income-distribution.jpg]https://econographics.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/household-income-distribution.jpg]https://econographics.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/household-income-distribution.jpgHere we show just the next $50,000 increment of earnings up, and oh look at that, suddenly that huge spike on the end is not so imposing is it? Charts are all about scale. Try not to be so impressed by flashy gifs and pretty charts. This is why I always demand sources from you, because you don't have the capability to do this kind of critical examination yourself. This again is terrifying from some one who's claimed profession is that of an educator. |
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https://imgur.com/a/9FvFxOcSo I just got my dentist final bill today. The guy worked on my teeth for a total of 2 hours (he was aft about half of the time) away from teeth. Dentist gets paid $1650 an hour (if not more), sitting in a nice comfy air condition building. He can do his work 24/7 365 days a year, He cost of materials was much cheaper than a farmers and ROI is insane. He has only been a dentist for 2 years. I been a farmer for 31 years, 82.5 baskets of cherries is what it would take to pay for 1 hour of his work, I give up 2-3 days of mine *JUST TO PICK* (when I can actually pick!, 250 days a year to get the cherries in that state ready to pick). I can only pick the cherries 1 month of the year. I think it is about time us farmers jacked the fucking prices to the moon of the fruits of labour because were getting played, how much life span do you think I losed with the spray, ferts and sun beating me down while wearing a harness? What a shit system. Btw farmers pay out of pocket for this shit. $3600+ for 2 hours of another mans work for 300 of mine. BULLSHIT SYSTEM! I hope you all starve. Who the fuck do you think keeps more people alive a year? I accept 1 bitcoin per basket of cherries next year and no fiat allowed. What you are experiencing is largely due to inflation. Of course naturally you want to blame the dentist, but he is just trying to get by too. The reason this is so out of whack is because of all the endless money printing, which causes huge market distortions and results in the disparity such as yours. The ones that can move the most money around the quickest benefit most, while those earning less end up suffering the lost loss of buying power via inflation. Stop blaming the dentist and blame the bankers. Regarding food prices, the way things are shaping up there are already going to be food shortages and prices going up as large sections of farm land are experiencing huge losses this year, especially in the US due to flooding. This has been a historically bad year for farmers. |
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I would accuse Clinton about the War in Kosovo that he started and killed a lot of innocent people in Belgrade, Serbia.
Otherwise, I think that the US had passed great days with him in charge. The economy was thriving during his tenure and people saw their income increasing.
But after 20 years of his retirement, do you think it is a great time to arrest him? Why this didn't happen earlier?
The Clintons have been involved in criminal activity long before he was president, way back when he was Governor of Arkansas. Also Hillary's father was involved in organized crime, running moonshine if I remember correctly. Just google "Clinton Mena" for info on one of their earlier scandals involving drug smuggling and 2 dead kids. He wasn't prosecuted because the cartel he was involved with was still in power, but is no longer. Also, the economic prosperity experienced during the 90's under Clinton administration was based on fraud, mostly related to the housing market and other frivolous lending. This is what caused the economic collapse in 2009 as the world realized the market was saturated in fraud and it had a correction. |
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Who cares what that bug eyes loon thinks. She is a clown show.
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Catholic schools are all private and are examples of non state schools. NAIS is the national association of independent schools. Conference topics anecdotes as they represent high demand topics from a large sample size of independent schools coming together at a national level. In the absence of statsitical data, anecdotal evidence can be useful. Just because anecdotal evidence isn't as strong as statistical evidence, doesn't mean it must always be completely discredited. You claim state schools are the pinnacle of science and are less bias, but here you are demonstrating you clearly work your own political ideologies and dogmas into your "teaching", things which have nothing whatsoever to do with science, and consist of Marxism masquerading as science. Thats kind of the point. I wasn't able to do as much of that at a state school as I am at a private school that has institutional support for my "dogmas". The point was that state schools provide much more balance while private schools and homeschools provide a specialized, and often extreme bias that caters to the mission/affiliation of the school. My school was founded to promote social justice while Catholic schools have a mission to teach in accordance with the catechism. People generally instill their own values in home-schooling. Those are all inherently biased sources of education. And apples and pears are kinds of fruits. What the fuck is your point? I said home schooling and you bring up other forms of schooling then attack that claiming they are the same thing. You are a walking inherently biased "source of education". "Texas Court Orders Father to Raise His Son As A Transsexual" www.informationliberation.com/?id=60480 |
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The 775 number was in the GQ link I posted. Page 12 of that document had old data suggesting 34-44 days but those numbers were missing in the chart for recent years. Lets look further at the NBC source that was cited in the GQ article https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/trump-admin-s-tent-cities-cost-more-keeping-migrant-kids-n884871?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top The average stay for separated kids is nearly two months. 775 x 60 = 46,500. So we are already over 2/3rd of the lifetime cost of absorbing a low-education immigrant after just 2 months of detention. That is still before legal costs and doesn't even mention that the children are placed in foster care for the rest of the pending time which also has costs. Keep in mind, that these are not costs to produce something or have some sort of end product. These are simply the financial costs to torture children in concentration camps. The moral and psychological costs are much higher. I'd much rather spend that money building people up instead of tearing them down. It is almost as if you are telling the people already here who want a better life to go fuck themselves so you can feel generous at their expense! No I literally said universal education would be great for everyone. If these monies were being spent on making free education available for everyone, spots would already be available for immigrants to fill. Instead of scrambling to open up new detention facilities, we could educate the extra people at a significantly lower cost than torturing them. As your article demonstrates, everyone benefits from more people with more education. Yes lets look closer at the NBC article: "The cost of holding migrant children who have been separated from their parents in newly created "tent cities" is $775 per person per night, according to an official at the Department of Health and Human Services" Unnamed "officials" are well known sources of reliable information are they? First of all you are wrong and pretending as if the fact that it is cheaper to deport them BY YOUR OWN NUMBERS is inconsequential. Second you extrapolate out extra costs for deportation other than what was included. That works both ways. The number was a VERY conservative estimate of costs for a LIFETIME of government entitlements like healthcare, food stamps, HUD subsidies, education, infrastructure wear, law enforcement, and on and on and on which are not all included in this "life time" number. You are wrong by your own numbers. You then defaulting to more arguments from a position of emotional manipulation doesn't change the situation either. These children are forced into this situation by the people who bring them here illegally, not the government. Using the word "torture" is way beyond hyperbole and is simply just a lie you came up with to distract from your total failure of an argument and your inability to meet the standards of your own premise. As I already explained, there is a certain point where more money into education is not going to yield better results. Some people are simply unwilling, or incapable of being educated. Furthermore the burden on the existing educational system is extremely detrimental as everyone already here has all of their resources stretched very thin to compensate for all of the new people pumped into an already overburdened system, resulting in less people actually being educated total. The fact that you call yourself an educator is evidence enough that the education system is a joke and largely a fraud, and that money goes to paying Marxist ideologues like you to indoctrinate people instead of teaching them valuable skills like critical thinking, logic, and scientific method. |
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Well those people have income that is in the 95 percentile so statistically I don't really have to prove anything. We're talking about incomes that are more than 5 times the national median and in the top 5%. There is no way of talking your way out of those facts. 300,000 is super wealthy relative to the median income of 60,000. My prior claim still stands and was supported by all of those zillow links. Those aren't maybes. Those are properties on the market that could be bought right now at less than 28% of gross monthly income. Its not my fault that you confused yourself by using income after taxes instead of gross income to make the rich seem poor. https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/house,condo,land_type/89237732_zpid/2-_beds/globalrelevanceex_sort/37.853847,-122.351475,37.702973,-122.592488_rect/11_zm/2_p/0_mmm/Its a million dollar home at a cost of 5400 That is 22% of the gross monthly income of someone with an annual income of 300,000 and of course the expectation is not that any wealthy person can buy any house. There are obviously multiple levels of being wealthy. Theres a 1% that these people can't touch and a .1% that they can't even touch. San Francisco is full of 20+ million dollar homes but just because someone making 300,000 can only afford a 1 million dollar home doesn't mean they aren't rich. The point that these are still the employing class is quite a valid point. You act like these people live like royalty, and you want to remove their incentive for working as hard as they do, but they employ a large percentage of the people who make less than them. It is a lot like a food chain in nature. You can't just cut off the top half and expect everything to work out just fine. Also there is the very simple question of what entitles you to the labor and resources of others? If your only incentive for working is to become as wealthy as possible, paying tax is not going to take that away. If anything, the tax would incentivize you work a little more just to get back to where you would have been before the tax. Paying a little tax isn't going to cut anybody off. The bolded question is a great question and actually supports the reasoning for taxing the rich. Their excess wealth is literally coming from the labor of others. Yeah, why would taking more than half of what some one earns working way harder than everyone else make people want to work less right? What kind of weirdo doesn't want the fruits of his labor taken at gunpoint while he grinds himself into the dirt? Also this has been studied. You are wrong. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/laffercurve.aspBTW, as usual, you use deceptive charts. Notice how your cute little animation cuts off at $200k? That means anyone earning more than 200k is going to be included in that last bar, giving it a manipulatively larger visual impact than if you were to expand it out like the rest of the bar graph. Just because most people earn very little doesn't make these people power brokers for earning more. |
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He beat a dude in the street of a foreign nation... why shouldn't they hold him? Would you think it was ok if Swedes came here and started beating random people in the street and just got to go home?
I think this is a matter that is not being judged fairly. Yes, it is a foreign nation but that doesn’t give the citizens the right to harass foreigners or stalk them. Rocky acted in self defense after various verbal warnings to his assailants which i believe were under influence. If he had no respect for the law,he would never had honored the invitation of the authorities. It is inhumane to keep him held up in a poor facility without presenting all the facts quickly. If that is the case, the legal course of action would be to call the police. I get in the real world shit like this happens, but it also doesn't excuse it. You don't have a right to beat the shit out of people just because they are drunk and following you. That is not self defense. keep it real paper boy ! he and his friends only defended themselves after more than all the necessary warnings against rapists... imagine what those "people" proud representent of the "migrants" only looking to integrate themselves to diversify and improve the welcoming societies will do if it was female children? you can be open to be raped and population replaced... In china we have the credit score system and can kill the vip pedo protectors of the cia or anyone by the hundred, hourly... so stay in your safe space, boy. That is not how self defense works. You don't get to beat people just because you warned them. You seem to have trouble separating the law from your antipathy for migrants. You don't seem to understand just because some migrants do these things, you don't have a right to beat any of them in the streets. Ah, you are in China. That explains the overt prejudice, thirst for violence, and preference for authoritarianism. Keep telling me about how great and free China is with your technocratic totalitarian social credit system. |
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How long will they stay in this temporary housing? Thats the issue. At 775 per day, it only takes 3 months to reach the lifetime burden of a typical low-educated immigrant ($62,582, according to the study you just cited.). Thats before we even get into the cost of all the extra security and legal fees. https://www.gq.com/story/trump-detention-camps-costt, “Well-educated households tend
to be net tax contributors.” But at the same time, “Poorly educated households, whether immigrant or U.S.-born, receive far
more in government benefits than they pay in taxes.” My own research has come to the same conclusion.18 Poorly educated people are a drain "whether immigrant or US born" which is why universal free education would be so beneficial for everyone anyway. You see , education is the IV in this relationship, not immigration. Build more schools less jails.Those with modest levels of education tend to earn low wages in the modern American economy, and as
a result tend to make low tax payments and often qualify for means-tested programs. The less-educated are a net fiscal drain,
on average, regardless of legal status or if they were born in the United States or a foreign country. Lets just ignore the people who are paying them low wages, extracting their production, and not being taxed. We should blame them and make them pay workers more of a fair share. That way, all those extra income taxes can be generated. You see, the employers who pay poverty wages are the real drain on the economy. This is what you call a scapegoat. s. In terms of the educational attainment of illegal immigrants, there is a good deal
of evidence that they have modest levels of education, much lower than native-born Americans or legal immigrants. Its almost as if they are coming here for a better life! Three months is still two to three times longer than the average stay in detention. Furthermore your number of $775 daily cost is not only unsourced, but you state self contradictory costs in your own original statement. https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/ICE%20FY18%20Budget.pdfSee page 12, the average stay in detention is 34-44 days. Even at your inflated and unsourced prices (which are not supported by the source above) it is still less costly to deport them. Poorly educated people are a drain on the system, great, so why are we importing more of them instead of dealing with the ones already here? Cost is not the only problem with education. Some people simply are not capable or unwilling to educate themselves, this is a fact. You can send some one with down syndrome to Harvard for free, they are still going to have an IQ of 50 by the time they get out no matter how much money you throw at them. Your argument about low wages is a non-sequitur. It doesn't matter how much blame they share, the negative effects of illegal immigration are still a fact. That is what you call a fallacy. It is almost as if you are telling the people already here who want a better life to go fuck themselves so you can feel generous at their expense! |
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Every private school eh? You are a teacher and no one ever told you all inclusive statements are generally wrong? Furthermore you have no evidence of this, this is just a list of assumptions on your part. You seem to be under the impression that state run or public schools are without bias. Generally I find those who claim to be the most unbiased usually are desperately attempting to hide it. The state and public schools most certainly do have bias, you just think that is A-OK because they align with your own. That is not the same as being unbiased, which frankly is not possible. Some how your bias is more appropriate that the bias of others in your mind. Some one like me would make you look incompetent in your own classroom by knowing more about the subject matter than you as a teacher. I have done it before. You have no business "educating" anyone, except for maybe being a living example of the failures of Marxism.
Of course you would frame the ability to have open debate as something to be punished, but that is how public and state schools operate isn't it? Punishing those who disagree with the state narrative is something to be proud of in your eyes. Public schools reduce extremism? I guess that's why there is so much violence at them right? I am sure you think it is the fault of guns, and not the fact that it is designed to be a human meat grinder beating out any sense of individuality, critical thought, or free thinking from young minds. The fact that you are in a position to indoctrinate others is terrifying.
In chemistry, we have "rules" and teach young students the rules only to reveal that most of these rules have exceptions later. Generalizations are valuable when you aren' talking to someone who's main intent is to twist your words into something out of context and derail the disucssion. Did you really believe I was claiming every single private school? I was lucky enough to have someone tell me about hyperbole. Yes I have evidence and spoke of mission statements already. I've been through the catholic school system and spent a few years coaching and teaching in it. Religious schools, teach their religious values. period. Thats the whole point of their existence. Its in every mission statement. Everything is through that lens. I'm not saying public schools can't be biased. Everything has bias. Public schools usually just represent the bias of the community they are in with a slight shift accounting for all of the right-leaning teachers who don't believe in government-run education. You can still expect a public school in Topeka Kansas to have a far right bias. In fact, I met the high school Biology teacher of the children of Phelps family. She talked about how teaching science there was huge struggle but she wanted to do it. They won't be able to fire her as easily for trying to teach evolution as a private school would. For the last six years, I've been to NAIS, POCC, and NSTA national conferences, visited 182 private schools, and spoken with thousands of teachers and administrators. I know what their schools are about because we discussed the successes/barriers/struggles their schools are having with implementing many of the topics I've discussed here with you and know you consider extreme. -increasing counseling -providing breakfast and lunch to all students -incorporating non judeo-christian holidays and teachings -converting to non gendered bathrooms -gender studies -more diverse representation in faculty and administration -more diverse student bodies -what if i say the wrong thing -emotional well-being -giving students freedom to organize (womens, gun control, and climate change walkouts) -how to avoid being targeted by right-wing media workshops I gave: -how to teach sex in biology (xy isn't always male) -sustainability in school buildings (reduce carbon and ecological footprint) -teaching climate change within every topic instead of as a standalone More moving goal posts. Now you are moving from what I said, home schooling, to private schools, and now Catholic schools. As usual you argue the points you wish were being discussed, not the ones actually being discussed. Even if the topic was Catholic schools, your personal experience is what is known as "anecdotal information" and is not statistically relevant. You can teach a workshop on underwater lesbian basket weaving, it doesn't make it truthful or useful. You claim state schools are the pinnacle of science and are less bias, but here you are demonstrating you clearly work your own political ideologies and dogmas into your "teaching", things which have nothing whatsoever to do with science, and consist of Marxism masquerading as science. More actual on topic subject matter: https://www.bitchute.com/video/hDpZPwkDvJVs/ |
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Facts are facts. 72% of undocumented immigrants work compared to 60% of the entire population so they are actually an economic plus. If you normalize their status they can live above ground while paying full taxes. Hearings are currently being scheduled for 2022 it is short term style housing but will be used long term and even as some of those people are sent home, they will just be replaced by a ballooning amount of more refugees.
775 per day for four years is more than the average american makes in a lifetime. Its over a million dollars. The permanent recurring cost would be negative in the form of the income taxes 73% of these people would be paying if they were free. The moral argument is clear, but there is no logical economic argument on your behalf. Its not even close. The cost of detaining these people is astronomical and we aren't even counting the money being spent "securing the border" and funding ICE which is money that could instead be spent replenishing the resources you say these people are a burden to.
Since Flying Hellfish refuses to remove this off topic post, and I refuse to continue off topic in the original thread, I have decided to split this off into an on topic thread in order to respond. You lack basic understanding of logic let alone economics. Your statistics are not only unsourced but consist mostly of non-sequiturs .There is a HUGE difference between a larger short term cost compared to a long term recurring cost. You are extrapolating a short term cost out perpetually as if it is a permanent cost when it is not. Illegal aliens are only temporarily being detained before deportation, they are not held forever in detention centers. This is the kind of logic toddlers can grasp but you seem to have problems with. "Deportation vs. the Cost of Letting Illegal Immigrants Stay" https://cis.org/sites/default/files/2017-07/deportation-vs-stay-costs.pdf |
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Big pharma is not just looking for profits. Several of the known members of the ruling deep state have stated that their aim is to reduce the world population by 80%. Wars, vaccines, killer drugs, economic deprivation, social unrest, and localised climate change are just a few of the weapons they use.
Clearly I am trying to stick to factual base level information here. People can barely handle that, and this is an important topic people need to be made aware of. Please save the rest for the other vaccination thread. |
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