That might have to do with the fact that you are totally obsessive and also a bigot. BTW, simple logic dictates people who use all inclusive terms like ALL are generally making false statements. Logically this happening ALL the time is not possible. What is more likely is your bias is heavily weighing your opinion.




The conclusion is you will hear what you want to hear. "Religiosity" is not equivalent to Theism or the basic concept of believing in God. Many Theists are repulsed by religious organizations, but we aren't talking about only religion are we? Try again.

Going through the educational process is not equivalent to intelligence. You are living proof of this. Another way to examine this is that educational institutions K-graduate school tend to be almost completely filled with those of leftist ideologies, and thus tend to indoctrinate the students with these views.

You will notice your statements always are about your feelings. My rating for him had nothing to do with my feelings. If it was feelings my rating was based on I would have negative rated Vod years ago, but I never have until then. I contribute plenty to the forum just by jamming up 2bit authoritarians like you. Remind me what does any of this have to do witht he topic at hand? Oh right, absolutely nothing, this is just yet another way for you to exploit the trust system to punish violations of your frail feelings.

There is a famous quote by Thomas Jefferson ...

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants..."

Unfortunately when it is just tyrants shedding the blood of other tyrants all that results is lots of bloodshed.

I am not ideologically opposed to the death penalty for certain crimes, however due to incompetence and corruption of government, I have to oppose it on the principal that it too often makes mistakes. Prisoners can be freed, dead men stay dead.

The problem is any non-authoritarian government has no need to occupy the position of God, nor should it. It is not a good idea to believe blindly in anything, and an even worse idea to believe blindly in men. Not having the government occupy the position of God doesn't mean you don't have any support for government, it just means you do not allow it to occupy the space of blind faith. Governments are never perfect, and this is exactly why it should not be occupying the position of God. Governments occupying that role can do nothing good for humanity, without exception.

I never claimed Atheism was the root cause of political affiliation. I never said they are a homogeneous group. I never blamed Atheists for anything. That is fucking rich you claiming I am projecting as you prepare for your part time job and put on your little AMC projectionist uniform.

There is most certainly a correlation between Atheism and leftism just as there is a correlation between Theism and conservatism. Do you think Theists are only capable of viewing the world thru the lens of religion? Do you ever stop and look at yourself and just think "man I sure am one arrogant supremacist self assured bigoted twat?" If not you should, because all of the things you are projecting upon Theists are exactly the behaviors you yourself are exhibiting, but because your faith takes your preferred form, it is "better".

"Bound by the ancient texts" lol seriously, who the fuck do you think you are Richard Dawkins? Do you sit at home and monologue in the mirror while you bask in the glory of your advanced secular superiority that those plebeian Theists just simply could not understand? While they were studying The Bible, were you studying the blade?

Atheism is just another form of religion and I can prove it. Atheism makes the conclusion that there is no God based on exactly as much empirical data as Theists have to conclude there is a God, that being absolutely none. Atheism is just another belief system, complete with arrogant superiority complexes, evangelism, bigotry, prejudice, and self aggrandizement. Thank you for being living proof of that.

I can respect Agnostics, at least they are logically consistent. You are simply just everything you hate so much.

How did I know you would show up? I will have a discussion with you on one condition. This is not going to become a discussion about the existence or non existence of God. That is a retarded debate and I refuse to have it no matter how much you want to. If you turn it into that discussion I will just ignore you and report your posts as off topic. Now...


Yes, atheism ABSOLUTELY does have a lot to do with political leaning. I guess it is just a magic coincidence that most religious people tend to be conservative and most atheists tend to be more leftist right? I guess it is just a coincidence every Communist nation that ever existed sought to exterminate religion and the very concept of God huh? Just because there are exceptions does not mean there does not exist a clear pattern in the relationship between Atheism and political leaning.

The concept of a higher power is something DEEPLY ingrained in humanity, whether you believe in God or not. Atheists are making a choice to ignore that part of themselves that suggests there is a God, no matter how small the question is, and as a result it manifests similar behavior in other ways. As I suggested in the op, many atheists substitute the big daddy in the sky with big daddy government and that becomes the thing they have blind faith in. People instinctively NEED to be lead, and for Atheists, government usually fills that void nicely.

In the USA, The Bill of Rights are "God given", natural, or inalienable rights. The concept of these rights being granted by a higher power means the government is barred from the ability to take them, because they did not grant them. Communism seeks to destroy religion because it is competition. Under Communism there is no bill of rights, and the state itself is the highest power on Earth, and it seeks to fill that psychological void in the human psyche with itself as the role of God, and Communism as its religion.

Neuroscience even confirms the brains of religious and Atheists alike activate in very similar ways when confronted with a "religious" or "moral" questions, confirming that both groups share the same neural mechanisms, but experience and explain them in different ways.

"Professor Grafman was more interested in how people coped with everyday moral and religious questions. He said that the latest study, published today, suggests the brain is inherently sensitive to believing in almost anything if there are grounds for doing so, but when there is a mystery about something, the same neural machinery is co-opted in the formulation of religious belief."

https://www.livescience.com/5237-spirituality-spot-brain.html

Humans have evolved this trait over time for whatever reasons, and just because you ignore its existence doesn't make it go away. Faith is hardwired into human consciousness. Atheism is just a choice to redirect that faithfulness away from religion as most people know it to blind faith in government and the secular world. Without this ability to have faith in something that one can not prove or define, there would be no science, because no one would ever have the capacity to imagine anything beyond what already is known. No one would ever create anything new, because creating something new requires one makes a leap away from logic and use that part of the brain to imagine something that doesn't currently exist, and then in reverse explain how it fits in to the current paradigm. All the most famous inventors describe this process where they have a sudden leap of intuition and logic, imagine an endpoint, and then explain what they saw in reverse. It is my opinion this is one of the primary evolutionary advantages of this hard wired mechanism of faith in the human mind.

To claim that belief or lack of belief in God is not related to political leaning is just absolutely asinine. Lets take a look at some statistics...



Clearly no correlations there!

What am I trying to sound too smart about? What did I fuck up? You aren't answering any of my questions. I don't think I am smarter than everyone else and think everyone else is dumb. I just don't talk out of my ass or debate things I don't already know well, or submit to willful knobs just because they repeat themselves over and over again, so I could see how you might get that impression. Are you sure you aren't just describing yourself? Teach me oh secret king, what did I fuck up that you got so much pwnage on me with? If it is so obvious why are you having so much trouble just saying it?

"An Examination Of The Leftist Cult And Their Religion"

www.alt-market.com/articles/3810-an-examination-of-the-leftist-cult-and-their-religion


I found this article and thought it did a great job of elucidating some core concepts at the heart of the leftist rot engulfing the world. Even atheists seek religion, they just tend to worship the God of the state.

If any of the actual victims wants to open a flag, I am willing to support it.

I quoted you in full, then I quoted a subsection of text. No context was removed. You are just repeating yourself at this point, but whats new. This is blatant abuse of the trust system, using it to punish people for their opinions. I didn't abuse the trust system to punish Vod for his opinion, he has however done so several times to myself and countless times to others. That is the difference. You enjoy your delusional double standards, and be careful not to wash that brown mark of protection from your nose.

Yes... I posted it because they called it "gender reassignment". I thought the topic of the thread made that obvious, but you seem to be preoccupied with your own projections. You didn't answer me, what am I "trying to be slick" about? You enjoy your invisible victory secret king.

Oh, so you are done pretending to ignore me again? I already responded to your implication that my rating for him was for being "mentally ill" 3 times, but reality is secondary to the narrative you would like to portray.


You will notice the subject of the sentence in my rating is "stalker", meaning that is the focus of the statement, but you keep imagineering whatever suits you.

I don't see this user stalking anyone. I don't see this user abusing the trust system. I don't see this user putting people at physical risk by doxing other users. You did say one true thing though in your statement "we feel the same way about roach." This is about your hurt feelings and your compulsive need to punish him for having ideas and opinions that hurt your feelings. This is not what the trust system is for.

What the fuck are you even going on about "trying to sound smart?" Yeah why should you discuss the content of the article when you can piss and moan about a handful of retards in the comment section as if it means something. Why even bring it up if not to cast aspersions? Yes, literally no one here, or in the article. Last I checked comments aren't part of articles. Tell me, what exactly did I "fuck up", other than daring to question "people" with a fragile ego? See what I did there?

The usual quality retort we can expect from you. Thank you for your contribution woke China bro.

Lol. Sure it is, anecdotal evidence is all you have when you have no logical argument. My personal motivations are as irrelevant as your personal anecdotes. The Finland UBI experiment was like 2000 people, that is hardly a national economy shifting development and not indicative of anything. That program was so successful they ended it BTW.

Let me break it down using simple logic. Most people don't do work they want to do, they do the work that provides the most value to the economy that they are capable of. If people didn't have to work, we would have a billion people who want to be famous rock guitarists or basket ball players. We don't need a billion famous rock guitarists or basketball players. Furthermore just because some one wants to do some thing doesn't mean they are any good at it. That is the purpose of supply and demand within the economy, to provide the skills and resources we most need the most reward, and to reward the people who fill those rolls and do so efficiently. Even if your premise was correct that people would not be influenced to work less, the simple economic fact is that handing out free money does not magically make more resources appear. More money handed out for nothing just creates more demand for resources, driving up the prices. All you are doing is creating inflation and ending up right back at square one with the haves and the have-nots.

Entitlement programs create dependence. Dependence is exclusive of independence. Independence is agency and responsibility. Dependence strips people of agency and responsibility making them less able to be independent as time goes on and they are not continually expanding their abilities via exercising their agency. Just like the body atrophies without exercise, the mind and the will atrophy without being challenged by responsibility. Liberty and responsibility are inherently linked, you can not have one without the other. Even IF your nonsense premise was true, all you are doing is giving the government ever increasing power over the population, and turning the government from the servant of the people, into the master of the people. That is a huge problem. Especially when the resources run out and labor becomes mandatory and government controlled... like every other time Communism is tried. There are endless reasons your premise of free shit for everyone is a failed concept.


"Labor-force participation fell substantially after the crisis, contributing 2.5 percentage points to the shortfall in output. The decline showed no sign of reverting as of 2013. Part is demographic and will stabilize, and part reflects low job-finding rates, which should return to normal slowly. But an important part may be related to the large growth in beneficiaries of disability and food-stamp programs. Bulges in their enrollments appear to be highly persistent. Both programs place high taxes on earnings [emphasis added] and so discourage labor-force participation among beneficiaries. The bulge in program dependence …  may impede output and employment growth for some years into the future."


https://fee.org/articles/surprise-welfare-incentives-discourage-work/

https://www.politico.eu/article/welfare-discourages-work-labor-market-employment-social-rights/

https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2015/04/27/dependency-work-incentives-and-the-growing-welfare-state/

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/welfare-better-deal-work

https://www.urban.org/research/publication/welfare-reform-analysis-issues/view/full_report

https://www.census.gov/population/www/documentation/twps0046.html#Conclusion

https://rbj.net/2016/10/21/welfare-system-that-discourages-work-ambitions-needs-fixing/

Hey give me all your money, it won't be a robbery, as you like to call it. I will just hold it for safe keeping. Sounds legit right? Oh you don't just believe people because they declare something to be true? Me neither.

Democracy is inherently exclusive to individual and minority rights. Individuals and minorities will always have their rights abolished by vote under a pure Democracy. Yes, this is mob rule. All rights are property rights. Without property rights we have no human rights. You can advocate for humans flying, but when you jump off of a bridge you are sill going to splatter all over the ground. What you intended is irrelevant, the irrevocable laws of economics and human nature, like gravity outrank your intent.

Except you are, because parents have an inordinate amount of influence over children, and plenty of parents, teachers, and social workers indoctrinated in Marxism just like you have no problem at all knowingly or otherwise influencing these children into a situation that will PERMANENTLY HARM THEM in order to virtue signal and serve their political narrative. I would compare it to "Munchhausen by proxy", it is a well known pathology, especially prevalent in women. Children can not consent to lots of things that permanently effect them, gender transitioning with puberty blockers or surgery should be no different. This is state sanctioned child abuse, there is no other way to describe it.