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721  Other / Meta / If this app has a Bitcoin wallet under what argument does this thread get moved? on: July 13, 2015, 05:49:13 AM
This discussion keeps being moved to the alt section even though it has a Bitcoin wallet attached and is therefore news worthy for the Bitcoin section.


So under what criteria is it being moved?

If Ebay had a Bitcoin wallet it would be in this section but Ebay isn't a cryptocurrency so whats the problem?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1119288.0
722  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Early adopter or Johnny come lately? on: July 13, 2015, 05:42:25 AM
Sorry, I didn't mean to say it was a scam.


99% of alt coin projects are scams. Even at the least they are scams in the fact their value is based on a future usage that hasn't actually materialised....and is unlikley to. I include top coins like NXT AND NEM. I think the coin in Gems should be seen as a Token not a coin. The app is actually a stealth Bitcoin wallet ultimately. Thats why I tried to post in Bitcoin section but I keep getting moved. It pisses me off cause the app is probably the best news Bitcoin has in terms of mainstream use but there is zero thanks from the Bitcoin purists.


If the app got a million users if I ran it I would almost want to cut the Bitcoin wallet out just to say FU to Bitcoiners but I'm one myself so I would be cutting off my nose to spite my face. Grin


The fact this thread got moved to Marketplace shows me Bitcoiners and the MODS here are blinkered and proves my point that most in the section on this forum are not early adopters. It has to have the Bitcoin logo on it otherwise its rejected. stupid.


Gonna love posting a link to this thread in about a year or two.  Shocked
723  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [GEMZ]|GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays | LIVE on Android and iOS | on: July 13, 2015, 04:11:53 AM
Something I was wondering is IF you have to tap on the link to get your daily 1 GEM, I assume so.

It made me wonder about the Airdrop and whether it is better to have to click to collect it. I can see both ways have benefits, I like the idea that people need to open the app and do something to get the gems, more interactive, forces people into the app, even an addictive element. But I also see that some might be annoyed if they don't receive Gems if they don't click to receive from say Airdrops and future advertising etc. But I guess if you want to reward actual usage then making it compulsory to daily receive coins if a great way to reward activity.


Whats great is it adds a layer to the addiction of messenger apps where people check to see who posted, i.e. people checking to get their Gemz. Its a massive plus in terms of making a compelling experience.
724  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [MARKETING]Get ZeroHedge to publish an article about Bitcoin on: July 12, 2015, 06:54:58 PM
ZH is warming slowley to Bitcoin. Generally the negativity comes from Gold Bug posters who tend to see it as an attack on their personal belief that only Gold is money.

I think many there are getting that Bitcoin is actually serving the role Gold is susposed to do is picking up on rumbles in the financial system, inflation and currency debasement etc.

I think ZH just had a laugh at the bubble that formed and the foolishness of late investors to a parabolic run up in the charts.


I agree there should some actual positive Bitcoin articles on there, I think I saw one the other day. Don't forget ZH is not just one poster, many are rumoured to post under Tyler Durden name so there can be an inconsistency on Bitcoin on the site.
725  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Potential Banning of Whatsapp in UK / Dispution of BTC businesses ?? on: July 12, 2015, 06:20:10 PM
FEAR FEAR DANGER RISK!!!!!!!!!


The only danger is these clowns, they can't hold the internet back....I just can't see it being possible. For once the people have potential power.
726  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Potential Banning of Whatsapp in UK / Dispution of BTC businesses ?? on: July 12, 2015, 06:17:08 PM
When will people get you can't stop Bitcoin and no government on this planet has the power to stop it....


People need to man up and say screw the authorities, if the people don't want something g then guess what you shouldn't have it, government is made for the people not the other way around...

Also..   I agree with your libiterian stance regarding government! That's the way it should be!!  However I believe in historical metrics and sadly the government is currently made for central banks/and it's creditors and not for the people : (



Some sad truth right there. Still now we have Bitcoin so there is always gonna be one country that will not be dicks.....even if it's mother Russia..
727  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ok. Are you telling me this is true about NEM also? on: July 12, 2015, 06:12:20 PM
Interesting that no one came here and said this stuff is wrong.

All this stuff being real, to me, is amazing.

Imo NEM is BY FAR the most undervalued coin.

Can anyone argue that there is a coin that is more secure?


How do you judge value?

The value of Bitcoin is simple supply and demand. 14m coins or whatever is splashing around demanded by a couple of million users. Do you think Bitcoin would be valued at what it is if there were 10 users? Of course the added magic sauce is what is the potential users....

So what makes you think NEM will gain millions of users in the future? there are so many alternatives, I bet the users of NEM, well investors are about 5,000 tops......zero reason to think you will ever increases usage. therefore no credible economics would suggest this coin is undervalued.
728  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Prices added to Markets on Kitco.com on: July 12, 2015, 06:00:58 PM
I cannot ascertain the reason, why our members still opting to sell Bitcoin to buy precious metals gold and silver, are we loosing our hope on Bitcoin, and it is sad to watch that Bitcoin has been used to mere exchange rather than showing any desire to spread this innovative digital currency technology in all financial sectors.

Cant we invest in both Bitcoin and precious metals?
A company like Kitco offering to accept bitcoin for precious metals is a clear cut step in a positive direction, but im very curious how you think this is not a positive thing.

IMHO once the masses start using BTC as an exchange, they will see the vast benefits it offers over cash and or debit transactions and then the flood gates open...you have to lay concrete before you build a house.


I think I'm developing a man crush on you. I couldn't agree more. The stupid turf war between goldbugs and Bitcoiners makes zero sense.
729  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Early adopter or Johnny come lately? on: July 12, 2015, 05:51:06 PM
Im pretty sure i heard about Gems awhile back on Lets Talk Bitcoins...it sounds like a pretty cool idea all in all.
Im not sure why anyone would call it a scam when they dont really know anything about it...like the OP said, at least get the app (its FREE) and mess around with it before posting you think its scammy.

Im going to install it, mess around with it, and post back here my humble opinion.

@OP, im sure im not the only one who senses quite a salty tone in your posts.....try to smile and enjoy your day buddy.  Smiley


Haha Ok,will do....


You got the right attitude, I'm happy for someone to download and say it's shit and won't succeed. Then starts an adult convo. Sometimes you got to scream to be heard above  the noise on this forum, it's passion, not anger....I wish the best for any new user, it can only be a benefit to anyone who try's it....that's my opinion.
730  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Early adopter or Johnny come lately? on: July 12, 2015, 05:48:17 PM
Can I be honest. I'm amazed so many of you with accounts on here for a few years are acting like this just popped out of the sky. The project has been in development for a year and is just now putting the prieces into place. I know we all get jaded by so many 'new developments' claimed to change the world but seriously this is about as much of a chance for Bitcoin/alts to go mainstream we got. In the end I support Bitcoin not all these other alts that no one is ever going to use.


hardly a scammy shitcoin project with the backing of Citi Bank and thousands of Venture Capital.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/114422/citi-names-getgems-app-the-most-visionary-social-solution-in-mobile-challenge
731  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Early adopter or Johnny come lately? on: July 12, 2015, 05:38:58 PM
No one needs to buy the coin....If it gets a million plus users how is that hype? Change your frame of reference something new is contained here. Gemz is a token, it's nessecary for the wheels to,turn in the app, it's a micro economy of you want to describe it more correctly.


The app will I believe put a Bitcoin wallet into the hands of millions of people I believe in the next couple of years....

So how many Bitcoin users are there really now? A few million, we'll triple that and add a zero, this is main stream adoption strategy.

I like the concept. But, is it mandatory to have the wallet on mobile ? I mean, I cant access it from PC ?

And what is the Github location where the source code is hosted ?


The skeleton of the chat app is Tegram based which is downloadable I think, it's open source, that's the point and has tripled its members in the last few months I heard. Basically the app poaches Telgram users, so gems users can still connect exactly the same way to their Telgram friends.


There is plans for a PC wallet, gems is counterparty wallet based as well. So you store Gemz there, the wallet serves like a real wallet should, small amounts only.....but safe.


Once you use it for a day you will get the viral potential...inviting to earn sets this app up for rapid viral action. The Getgems Twitter following has been getting around 40 new followers daily, so most are likely new users, it's a snowball at the top of the hill Starting to roll now I believe...


Will I get the mobile app advantages by using counterparty wallet on laptop ?

Moreover, the source code must be hosted somewhere. Otherwise, how will people verify what is going on ?


Counterparty is encrypted and so is Telegram, that side is secure And decentralised I believe. There is an element of decentralisation but that is for airdrops etc and running the app. But like I said its decentralised where it needs to be....ask on the official thread for tech questions..
732  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Early adopter or Johnny come lately? on: July 12, 2015, 05:36:29 PM
@nextgencoin how does it work exactly? do you get gems just by using the app even without referring people or just with the referrals?

if it is just with referrals I'm sorry but it kinda smells like ponzi/pyramid scheme :/


Read up my friend....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.0


To be clear, I'm just a passionate user and investor, I have not affiliation with the leadership who are a professional start up.


All I have talked about is why I think it's going to go viral....

The real genius I haven't even mentioned and hasn't been implemented YET. basically it's an attention based model, basically to put it simply advertisers will be able to connect to users by giving users gems. So basically you cut the middle man out of FB and other social apps, advertisers pay you for watching their ads, which you choose to see or not. Based solely on your personal interests, like check list say.

Plus the big way to earn is the airdrop, coins will be shared out among users daily, soon to start. Plus the more you own and the more you use the app the more you are rewarded.


Please don't anyone call this a Ponzi scheme, that's what all attackers of abitcoin call it. IF this app has a working economy of millions of users then it's a closed micro economy earning money from advertising, nothing Ponzi about it.


733  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Early adopter or Johnny come lately? on: July 12, 2015, 05:21:40 PM
No one needs to buy the coin....If it gets a million plus users how is that hype? Change your frame of reference something new is contained here. Gemz is a token, it's nessecary for the wheels to,turn in the app, it's a micro economy of you want to describe it more correctly.


The app will I believe put a Bitcoin wallet into the hands of millions of people I believe in the next couple of years....

So how many Bitcoin users are there really now? A few million, we'll triple that and add a zero, this is main stream adoption strategy.

I like the concept. But, is it mandatory to have the wallet on mobile ? I mean, I cant access it from PC ?

And what is the Github location where the source code is hosted ?


The skeleton of the chat app is Tegram based which is downloadable I think, it's open source, that's the point and has tripled its members in the last few months I heard. Basically the app poaches Telgram users, so gems users can still connect exactly the same way to their Telgram friends.


There is plans for a PC wallet, gems is counterparty wallet based as well. So you store Gemz there, the wallet serves like a real wallet should, small amounts only.....but safe.


Once you use it for a day you will get the viral potential...inviting to earn sets this app up for rapid viral action. The Getgems Twitter following has been getting around 40 new followers daily, so most are likely new users, it's a snowball at the top of the hill Starting to roll now I believe...
734  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Early adopter or Johnny come lately? on: July 12, 2015, 05:18:15 PM
Well, if we are truly entering a new bull market for crypto, I guess it doesn't hurt to sign up to receive free things that could be worth more later on. Irrational or not, the coins get pumped.

For example, when Ripple first launched I remember getting 50,000+ free XRP in a giveaway. I sold it right away, but if I just forgot about it, that's about $500 dollars today.

So, I will take a look at Gems even though it looks like a scam.  Cheesy


Calling it a scam is like saying Bitcoin is a scam.....which is why I can guarantee you couldn't ever be an early adopter......given ripple for logging onto  a popular forum when abitcoin was a household name is not early adoption....

If you were smart and impartial you wouldn't call something you never used a scam. A sensible balanced person would download the app, play around with it for a few minutes, hours air days and say if they like the idea or if they think it will go viral. Scam is for scammers, cryto is not a scam....
735  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Potential Banning of Whatsapp in UK / Dispution of BTC businesses ?? on: July 12, 2015, 05:13:07 PM
When will people get you can't stop Bitcoin and no government on this planet has the power to stop it....


People need to man up and say screw the authorities, if the people don't want something g then guess what you shouldn't have it, government is made for the people not the other way around...
736  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Early adopter or Johnny come lately? on: July 12, 2015, 04:48:58 PM



I think the same people here who act all smart about accepting Bitcoin now it's all over the mainstream wouldn't touch it when it was at its early stages.


However, if you think I am being harsh, prove me wrong and download this app that  I swear to you is the future of Cryptocurrency, it takes less than a minute to register and you start receiving coins for doing zero!! Which I guarantee will be worth a ton in the coming months. So are you an early adopter or a Johnny come lately...

Post if you accept new things or not...

http://getgems.org




I wasn't really an early adoptor, but it had more to do with me being far too busy to learn about cryptos, and not understanding the tech enough to trust it.  When BTC first came out, even a 100$ investment would have been beyond my financial means.  When you are poor you just don't worry about investments.  That is for people with money Smiley

Now I have a few pennies to throw in, and some time to keep track of them, so it is not about being a laggard so much as when in my life I actually had the ability to get in.


But be honest for 99% of people posting in the Bitcoin section they would still not have anything to do with it or see the value in the concept were it not for the MSM plastering it daily and the hype of quick monetary gains. I'm calling BS on that smugness and I guess doing my own personal social experiment cause I get a personal kick out of it. call me an asshole of you want, I am actually giving the first dibs to the Bitcoin community to GET IT. because I'm convinced most won't but some Chinese kid who wants to collect gems on his phone with his school mates will.

*This community is small, if this app is a success then it has to go far beyond this community so by default I can't be hyping this app to this community. A short term price rise holds no,interest for me, I want this app showing 50million user at least, then the price won't be artificial it will be supply and demand nothing more.....basically I don't care what the bitcoin community thinks, but I do think you are the natural group to hear news first. You have that advantage....
737  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Early adopter or Johnny come lately? on: July 12, 2015, 04:32:09 PM
Not bad idea, Social Messaging with reward, but only altcoin Sad
Just hope this won't become altcoin which only famous for a while

But, i'm sure people would buy that altcoin & sell it while the hype still high




No one needs to buy the coin....If it gets a million plus users how is that hype? Change your frame of reference something new is contained here. Gemz is a token, it's nessecary for the wheels to,turn in the app, it's a micro economy of you want to describe it more correctly.


The app will I believe put a Bitcoin wallet into the hands of millions of people I believe in the next couple of years....

So how many Bitcoin users are there really now? A few million, we'll triple that and add a zero, this is main stream adoption strategy.
738  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Early adopter or Johnny come lately? on: July 12, 2015, 04:29:34 PM
They can't even afford an SSL certificate.



Where's the Bitcoin logo? what is this bullshit!


I need a diagram.....



739  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Early adopter or Johnny come lately? on: July 12, 2015, 04:27:29 PM
This website doesn't look serious if they don't redirect http to https.


Imagine what people saw when some guy first posted his idea for crazy magic internet money....I bet they didn't trust him either..
740  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Early adopter or Johnny come lately? on: July 12, 2015, 04:25:31 PM
The website is clean if anyone wonders. It seems to me like you're just trying to promote this wallet for smartphones.
I don't see any indications because of which I would want to install this. I don't even properly understand the point of this thread in correlation to its title?



Just a small update. Due to your nonsense and unusual behavior I'm going to ignore your posts in this thread before deciding what to do next.


Some people need time, I understand, for Bitcoin it was about two years people needed...



Buy the way, no one is even acknowledging my point that there are threads in the Bitcoin section mocking people who just don't get Bitcoin and won't adopt a new tech but those same people won't accept this and will walk off scratching their head just like their non adopting Bitcoin friends and family...
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