When I used to work with Odesk (now Upwork), I have one clients who pay me in directly to may Paypal accounts. I know its against their TOS but we have make it a point that we will not used their tools to track our chats.

But I've been away for so long that I don't know they there are clients now that are willing to pay their workers with bitcoins. Yes, you should be very careful if the clients decides to pay you in bitcoin. But I'm really surprise though.

I've been a Odesk worker since 2009 when it was still young and only few workers. I was lucky though that I have maintained a client for 3 long years. Sadly though, it has to end so after that I never entertained any clients and my odesk account has been sleeping for more than 5 years now. I would say that I made tons of money back then.

I'm sorry to tell you that you are wrong. Please read here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2018/02/09/france-germany-demand-bitcoin-clampdown/

They are not in neutral grounds but wants a complete hammer ban on everything related to cryptos. They are pursuing in the G20 summit next month a joint proposal on regulating bitcoins.

That's why they really wanted to cut the heads while it is still early because Germany is one country that bitcoin and crypto will suddenly explode. The government wants to control it at the very beginning to not cause any harm on their economics, well that's according to them.

Correct. I'm just discussing it with a friend of mine 2 days ago. We could have made huge profit by today, almost doubled our money. But we didn't. Not that we are afraid to take risk, but we don't have money to invest that time and we don't want to borrow from someone.


The dip and the subsequent dump was long overdue. There are a lot of irrational buyers during the December peak that got burned last month alone. They are not experts, those are people who just created FUD to spread fear among investors. The experts that I have read says the bottom is $6K which we hit and then it never go down below that. Now we see the price has pick up already and maybe a new all-time-high is just on the horizon.

I laugh at your comment dude. Those who have bought bitcoin at top price (around $15K-$19K) have already left the market. They have sold everything during the panic sells in January-February. There might be some few who returns back, but I don't those noobs will go invest on it again. They got burned early on their crypto investment careers. That's why you will see threads spreading FUD's because it fell short of their expectations to be rich.

But I agree that its going to be a big hurdle to get into the 6 digits range. We need to take it slowly and not rush things as its not healthy. A sudden rise means that we could crash anytime because the bubble will be burst.

I wouldn't put too much pressure on us getting to $100K. A price of around $50K will be good enough for me. Let's not be over confident and take everything in a slow stride if we break $100K then good, but if not, then I'm happy if we could touch $50K at the end of the year.

You have to understand that blockchain and bitcoin are 2 different things. And as per tweet, India's PM is mentioning about Blockchain and not bitcoin. Sorry to burst the bubble but no need to celebrate here.


Correct, they may adapt blockchain though, but not bitcoin or crypto. They just curb out dirty money through demonetization recently. And adopting or even embracing bitcoin? Nah, I don't see it coming in the next years or so.


I doubt that India though will accept crypto. Well they may, but with strict regulations. But an outright ban is not needed. India has been involved with crypto for so long that I believed that it has somewhat stimulated their economy because ordinary citizens now have more purchasing power coming from crypto earnings.

As you have said, anything is possible, it can go both ways. But right now Ethereum is going to $1K, although I felt that its a mental barrier for the investors unlike before wherein it breaks $1K with no sweat but this time is different.

But I don't think that it has correlations with bitcoin prices. Before I would have to agree with you, but the game has changed a lot. If you will notice around its December rally, both Bitcoin and Ethereum enjoyed a good price increase. Same goes with Litecoin, it no longer follows the path of Bitcoin.

Ethereum already etches its own destiny, its no longer affected on Bitcoin prices, they have its only investor based. There's no more shifting of cash around, which means that new faces are already getting into the market scene which is a good sign that more and more people are going into crypto now.

Your so mean man.  . But I commended you for stating the truth. They coin will die naturally totally forgotten.


Exactly, why do they need to used Bitcoin's name? Its obvious that they just want to hype it. But I'm sure that there's nothing special about them, pump-and-dump, reaching all-time-high and then going back to absolute worthless.

If some of you guys have benefit from it then good, time to move on other coins and I don't think it will gain traction for long term investments. Get out early while you can.

Because journalist now are riding bitcoin's popularity. They completely write garbage news to attract clicks to their website. And you will also noticed that there are a lot of so called experts now. Looks like everyone has a Masters or PhD in bitcoin economics. They can see and predict that price movement.


They may be group of people and now a single individual. We will not identify them because that's one huge amount to pour in the market. They will only surface if someone will go forward that they are the mysterious buyers, but I doubt it. Bitcoin address has no name attached to it.

Exactly, They are the first recipient Blockchain, the underlying technology behind bitcoin that's why I really find it sad that they have been bashing and attacking bitcoin ever since. But if you look closely the same technology that powered bitcoin is the same technology that they are looking at to improved the banking system.


They are going to adopt bitcoin for sure because like I said, it will eliminate their paper works. And thru the ledger, banks and their branches can easily share information seamlessly. It may take time to migrate their legacy system, but if it will improved their business and cost wise then I say they will go for it.

I thought that the bearish is over, so I was quite surprise to see the price pulling back below $11K, so we are not still safe as far as the bearish sentiments is concern.

As for me $12K will be the next mental barrier. We need to broke it this week otherwise, we will see the bears going at it again. Although confidence is back, investors are still reluctant to pour there cash because there are a lot of paid schills going around the social media, claiming that cryptos specially bitcoin will go die and will go down to 0.

But I wouldn't listen to them, its better to do your own homework in crypto's rather than overcome by all the fake news going around the social media.

Unfortunately, it make a pullback to the $10K levels again. I was happy to see it go to $11300 yesterday, but when I woke up I was surprised it is at $10K++. However, no need to worry as this is just a normal day ago. Profit taking is just normal, maybe those who have bought at the bottom ($6K) is cashing it out.

Its too early to call but in my opinion, the price will not fall below $10K, there's so much resistance at it so the price could pick up today and try to test $11K. I'm expecting that at the end of the month, assuming there's no FUD, we will be comfortable at $12K entering March.

Exactly. I also started from scratch. I just joined signature campaigns and try to save as much. And then when I learn trading and decided to get my hands dirty, I used my saved bitcoin to channel funds for my trading activity. I think that's what most of us has done here. And some of us have been successful traders and earning tons of money.


I would say its one thing to earn, but if you don't have a positive mindset then I'm sure that you will fail. Joining campaigns is not that easy, you need patience as well to be able to grow your account overtime and have a good payment so that you will have enough funds for your trading.

Of course the situation will be 50/50 because the market is base on speculation. If you look at last year sudden rise to $19K, I say no single expert has predicted the price could go that high. The highest price prediction in this forum was around $5K if I'm not mistaken.

The mental barrier that is $20K is doable for me. Why? We may have experienced major crisis lately, however, investors are still willing to shell out their hard earn money simply because crypto potential is still huge as far as earning profits for long term is concern.

Yes, you are correct in the men's side. However, but we all know that Roger Federer is not getting any younger and there are a lot of young and upcoming talented players who are going to take the crown from him or Nadal.

So for me, maintaining his #1 spot will be hard. Plus he doesn't enter many tournaments to gain points to maintain his position.

As for WTA, we haven't seen someone who dominates, every year, different champions and the ranking quickly change hands. Maybe those women is very competitive in nature or lack there of.

Bitcoin and other crypto will really make a comeback. Although the month of January alone saw crypto's suddenly down to more than 60%, just sad to see but it just part of the ecosystem and we all know how crypto market is very volatile.

But a couple of days ago, the air has suddenly changed. We are now seeing a lot of significant gains not only bitcoin but the rest of the altcoins.

So if we have patience and just hold on our coins, then you are very happy to see that we have been in a rally of sort. Its early to say that we are out of danger though, please remained vigilant and make better judgement whether to buy or sell.

Looks like the end of Chinese Lunar Year bring positive impact to the ecosystem. Right now bitcoin has surpassed $11K barrier and I do not see anything in the radar that influence the price movement other than the end of the Chinese New Year.

I'm skeptic at the very beginning, I'm questioning what would they go back to the market after the holiday? I guess I'm wrong (again!!!). Although there's a lot of members here saying that it will really pick up. Lets see how it goes if this is sustainable or just a short term burst.

Although there's one interesting article to read and pounder.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/anonymous-trader-buys-400-million-of-bitcoin-2018-02-16

An anonymous trader bought 400 million worth of bitcoin. That is one huge order and I'm sure that is has impacted the ecosystem.

$11K was broken a few hours ago, but the price go down to $10,900 but I'm that its just a minor resistance and at some point it will past $11K again and will test the next psychological barrier which is $12K. We don't need to worry at all, maybe those who bought bitcoin at $6K at now taking profits which is understandable.

The question of the OP have been answered already. We may have some resistance at $10K but it was broken down easily after the Chinese New Year. ATH will come, just a matter of time. I'll just wait and not hurry and we all should hold on our bitcoin.

DEx - Decentralized Exchange
ATL - All Time Low
Blockhain - Technology behind bitcoin
CMC - Coin Market Cap
LN - Lightning Network

That's few that I can think of. 

I guess we also have to understand where they are coming from. Recently there has been a lot of issues with trading platform not just Coinbase to be fair. So we can't blamed people who lost money here to start pointing fingers at Coinbase.

But its good to hear that Visa has set the record straight. And do hope that everyone who have lost will get their accounts refunded. All's well that ends well.

But I agree with you, this is really a good lessons to learn, wait and see what the issues is before you draw your conclusion that you might regret.

I would say around in the $1-1.3 trillion ballpark. Currently, we are about $500 million, so it would like doubling or tripling the current marketcap. If my memory serves me right, we peaked at around $800 before the dreaded market crash last month. We still have a lot of pushing to do but we are in the right direction.

Some might argue that's its still early to say, but if we are going back to its previous past, bitcoin and marketcap has tremendously increase in the last couple of years. So I speculate that we can get to its previous ATH 2nd or 3rd quarter and put the finishing touch before the end of the year.