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841  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Are the Nvidia 3000 Series the BEST GPUs for MINING EVER?! RTX 3070, 3080, 3090 on: September 19, 2020, 06:02:38 PM
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-performance-review-leaks-out

3090 benchmarks vs 3080

games +10%
synthetic +20% (3d mark)


mining performance tends to reflect to synthetic performance in difference. if 3080 is 100mhs, then probably 3090 is 120-130mhs.

if 3090 will hash efficient enough @ 133.33mhs.. in a 3 card rig setup, will work like 4x 3080 @ 400mhs..

but i hope 120-130mhs is for 3080ti not for 3090, 3090 will be sweet for 150mhs.

if these asics are still getting bought, a x3 3090 rig and x4 3080 rig is close enough in density. also if you think about resell value and being able to mine other coins 3080 is already a winner and 3090 is reasonable enough versus ETH ASIC.  

500mhs eth asic is 4689$ at 750w

https://www.cryptominerbros.com/product/innosilicon-a10-pro-500mh-s-ethash-miner/

knowing these ASICs are getting bought, 3080 is a no brainer to purchase for mining eth Wink

I will not be surprised if ASIC trolls will come full force against 30xx series for mining LOL
842  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs on: September 19, 2020, 05:57:10 PM
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-performance-review-leaks-out

3090 benchmarks vs 3080

games +10%
synthetic +20% (3d mark)


mining performance tends to reflect to synthetic performance in difference. if 3080 is 100mhs, then probably 3090 is 120-130mhs.

if 3090 will hash efficient enough @ 133.33mhs.. in a 3 card rig setup, will work like 4x 3080 @ 400mhs..

but i hope 120-130mhs is for 3080ti not for 3090, 3090 will be sweet for 150mhs.

if these asics are still getting bought, a x3 3090 rig and x4 3080 rig is close enough in density. also if you think about resell value and being able to mine other coins 3080 is already a winner and 3090 is reasonable enough versus ETH ASIC.  

500mhs eth asic is 4689$ at 750w

https://www.cryptominerbros.com/product/innosilicon-a10-pro-500mh-s-ethash-miner/

knowing these ASICs are getting bought, 3080 is a no brainer to purchase for mining eth Wink

I will not be surprised if ASIC trolls will come full force against 30xx series for mining LOL
843  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs on: September 18, 2020, 06:33:54 PM
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/

memory bus for both 3080 and 3080ti is both 320 bit. that's why speed improvement might be mininmal, 20gb however is a must for upcoming games textures at 4k

the only 384bit is 3090, nvidia reserved that special spot for the number 1 hehe

Name                                      Chip                      Memory Shaders   TMUs    ROPs   Base Clock   Boost Clock Memory Clock
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080      GA102-200-KD-A1    10 GB    8704       272       96     1440 MHz    1710 MHz    1188 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti  GA102-300-A1          20 GB    10240     320       112    1410 MHz    1740 MHz    1188 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090      GA102-300-A1         24 GB    10496     328       112    1395 MHz    1695 MHz    1219 MHz

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ga102.g930

On techpowerup ga102 page has this table on 3080ti, how much this might be true that is another thing hehe but I somehow believe this table to be spot on. March next year perhaps? I don't think AMD will have anything in this bracket so nvidia will charge whatever they want. I still think 10gb is not enough in 2 years time, it is today and probably next year too, getting a 10gb now and reselling in 2 years is not something i would like to do. The only thing that remains is what will be the price of the 20gb, I predict maximum $849 which if you think about is not that bad, charging $899 or $999 might be just too much for it.

I will make the setence better,  "efficiency, density and price".

...and time with a pinch of effort is money..MONEY

there is high chance that waiting for 3080ti is not good for mining, just go for 3080. like i said earlier, the less state of the art gpus running, the faster you ROI (running 3080)

844  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs on: September 18, 2020, 06:05:55 PM
3080 vs 3080ti may not have significant speed difference worthy of upgrading, but it is the vram (8gb to 16gb....10gb to 20gb) that will make those 3080, 3070 buyers upgrade hehe.

I guess if that comes to happen, it will be like the 1080 x 1080ti, performance like or a bit lower than 3900 but cheaper and 384bit + 20gb, 3080ti around $1199, I guess.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/

memory bus for both 3080 and 3080ti are both 320 bit. that's why speed improvement might be mininmal, 16gb/20gb however is a must for upcoming games textures at 4k

the only 384bit is 3090, nvidia reserved that special spot for the number 1 hehe

the way i see it is 1080 vs 1080ti difference will be the 3080/3080ti vs 3070/3070/ti. those are 320bit vs 256bit.
845  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs on: September 18, 2020, 05:44:05 PM
anyway i was right about nvidia "double sell" technique. gigabyte leaked the info btw

3080, 3070 sold out

3090 for sale

3080ti/super 20gb, 3070ti/super 16gb to be released

if you spend $700 for 3080 and spend another $8-900 on 3080ti, that's more than $1500 (3090 price). i said just get the 3090 for your gaming needs.

3080 vs 3080ti may not have significant speed difference worthy of upgrading, but it is the vram (8gb to 16gb....10gb to 20gb) that will make those 3080, 3070 buyers upgrade hehe.
846  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs on: September 18, 2020, 04:58:10 PM
It's funny really, dont know why you trolls are so upset about the 3080, there must be something why it triggered the negativity on some trolls, its clearly the best gpu at moment, even the chinese stocked thousands of it 2 weeks prior of the launch, countless threads on baidu about 3080 farming, I myself never thought the chinese would show so much interested on the gpu because they have everything in there, why stock on 3080 while they can buy asics or better gpu performance price efficiency? factories and factories are on their doorstep, do the chinese are stupid for such action? on the contrary, they are very smart. Besides the chinese, the same can't be said for us here in the west, because the chinese dont buy something to resell for something more, they have factories and factories close to where they live, the resell thing do not work there like it works on the west, the buying spree yesterday was because people wanted to buy to resell. The resellers have thousands of bots that dont let people to buy then they buy almost everything and then they resell for 2 to 3x more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=294&v=qHogHMvZscM&feature=emb_logo

faster cards and cheaper electricity. you plug one you get 95mhs and get paid $6per day for that card. plain and simple.

while mini dicks going around the forum where they vent their anger and frustration are trying to squeeze what little profit they got.. like living in an alternate reality(escapism) when they see 2.1W/mh on efficiency while having i dunno 5mhs? LOL who cares?.

so they always bring them their calculator to fiddle with the numbers and hope they get what they want to see..like 65mhs 3080..LOL

it is like a delicious piece of cookie where a guy just pinched a crumble in it and gave it to you and you wallow on that piece like you life depends on it. that's how bad things are for these people.

847  Other / Serious discussion / Re: 10 habits to maintain good health on: September 17, 2020, 08:42:55 PM
Have you noticed that healthy foods are delicious? It is that easy.

Bone marrow, steak, liver, oysters, clams, bacon, cheese, fish brain and eyes, soft bones, cartillage, butter, organ meats, sardines, fish fats, olives/oil, pili nuts, tea, matcha, coffee, milk kefir/yogurt, meats in general..etc...etc.
848  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Navi 21 next generation of rdna better to mine than current navi cards? on: September 17, 2020, 05:39:33 PM
high chance amd cards will under perform nvidia, and will try to compete with pricing.

yeah, amd will go for pricing. There is no question about that and I do not expect to be close to what we see rtx 3080 produce, at maximum, in my opinion, 2080 ti performance.

2080ti is around 3070 performance....and nvidia will finish the fight with 3070ti so there is nowhere to go for amd.

and people like this..
i have no AMD 5700, 5600, but i have much nvidia cards like p104, p106, 1070 and much more AMD cards.


they're going crazy specially now that the 3080's are going online..one..by one...by one... LOL  Grin
849  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs on: September 17, 2020, 12:25:50 PM
arielbit you're not making much sense. These cards are for gaming, it's totally possible that the memory bus is tailored for that, for cost reasons, and that if you could have more memory bandwidth it would help for mining. If you look at the RTX 3080 vs 3090, it's the same chip, so the 3080 could be run on the same PCB as the 3090 with the same memory bus (you'd have to not fuse off parts of the memory controller of course) and you would get a gain for mining. However the card would be more expensive, and games wouldn't benefit much, so nvidia doesn't do it.

In the past it has happened that a high end GPU was remade on a smaller process, the memory bus cut, and that was the new middle end GPU.

that's why i said it is already a "product", nvidia/amd engineering and marketing department has already sorted it all out.

you can all throw your mumbo jumbo tech interpretations and examples out there with your basic arithmetic but the fact is we just follow what these gpu manufacturers throw out there.

example: sxemini dick, got a phd in memory interface says 3080 is 65mh, but 3080 can deliver 93mh (mining software and driver not yet optimized) LOL

the bottom line is..its the hashes per card we want (efficiency included).


How can I calculate the memory bandwidth thats important for ETH mining:

(memory clock in Hz Ũ Memory Interface ũ 8 ) Ũ memory clock type multiplier = Bandwidth in MB/s

memory clock type multiplier:
HBM1 / HBM2: 2
GDDR3: 2
GDDR5: 4
GDDR5X: 8


me:...writing this in my palm

come here sxemini....i slap this on your stupid face.

who the fuck cares? you are already wrong and you give me this stupid fucking formula like some Einstein piece of shit haha


here let me show you my formula.

buy 3080, plug it in your computer, mine with it.  Cool
850  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Are the Nvidia 3000 Series the BEST GPUs for MINING EVER?! RTX 3070, 3080, 3090 on: September 17, 2020, 11:06:35 AM
i am out, i only discuss with personīs you understand technology.

best sentence from you, that show your knowledge:
anyway my point is about 150mhs "possibility" from gddr5x to 6 to 6x. that's two vram generation leaps. understand the analogy. then you will understand why it is a "possibility"

And for you, i have no AMD 5700, 5600, but i have much nvidia cards like p104, p106, 1070 and much more AMD cards.

lol .. so there you go...a lot of cards that will be phased out/ outclassed in the coming "major" leg up in gpu technology.

you will own a ton of garbage that nobody wants to buy..now i really do understand your pain, sorry for your loss.

150mhs is a possibility for 3090 i said not 3080..sme-mini dick in putting words in others mouth now? hehe

3080 did 93mhs, with those extras in 3090... can still possibly reach up to 150mhs (will not mention tech terms just to make mini dick feel a bit smarter hehe)



just to point out that 3080 is getting bottle neck by 8700k intel processor, only around 3900x and 10900k processor levels can unleash it's extra juice in gaming, that's how "major" this leg up in gpu technology is. so people worshiping r9 390s (like mini dick) will not like it, not one bit.
851  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs on: September 17, 2020, 10:50:59 AM
I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Donīt compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.
XXXXDDDDD ok now i am out, I donīt discuss with persons they have really really really and really no knowledge about what they talking about. So you say, if i can halving the memory interface of an r9 390 to 256, this will change nothing in eth speed? you cut of the halve mem speed and this will do nothing with the speed? Ok dude you must learn much more, i donīt believe this, i know this.

How much cards you have for mining?

For example: R9 390 can reach over 40mh if you rise the core to the hell, an rx 580 with almost the same number of shaders, but halve mem interface cannot achieve these hashrate.

for example...bluah..blah..blee.bluu.blawr..

will you cut the memory interface from 512 to 256? LOL it is a product, engineers already decided what interface will do best for that product.

we just run it and see if it will profit. dude you are over complicating things just to win an argument that you will never win hehehehe

how many cards i run? well... that's the mystery dude  Cheesy

Oh man please let it rain brain. Your knowledge is incredible XD it is product. What an answer. You know the difference between 512bit und 256bit? You know that 256bit produce halve memspeed as 512bit can do?

dude i donīt answer you anymore and set you on my ignore list. I canīt read your shit no more Cool

And i will never win? What will i win? A trip? You have no arguments and nothing and with your 3 cards running you think you are a big player XD

yeah, my super expert scientist and engineering brain knows that 3080 has a hidden rx480 inside, because if you slide the msi afterburner bar a little bit to the right it generates another 25-30 mhs of extra hashrate

you....while owing rx 480 cannot accept the fact that 3080 buyers will have a rx480 inside their 3080 cards for free.

gpu mining/gpu technology has another major leg up, going sour and rampaging in altcoin mining section while being phased out in the game is not the way to go sxe..mini dick LOL   Grin  Grin

hehehe ignore my ass....all these years in bitcointalk...they always read  Cheesy
852  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs on: September 17, 2020, 10:31:12 AM
I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Donīt compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.
XXXXDDDDD ok now i am out, I donīt discuss with persons they have really really really and really no knowledge about what they talking about. So you say, if i can halving the memory interface of an r9 390 to 256, this will change nothing in eth speed? you cut of the halve mem speed and this will do nothing with the speed? Ok dude you must learn much more, i donīt believe this, i know this.

How much cards you have for mining?

For example: R9 390 can reach over 40mh if you rise the core to the hell, an rx 580 with almost the same number of shaders, but halve mem interface cannot achieve these hashrate.
Next Example: R9 280x 384bit mem interface, can achieve 28mh on 1GB DAG, R9 380x same shader count, but interface cuted to 256bit, max it can achieve 25mh with some optimizations.

Can you prove anything or do you have any comparisons that prove your statements?

for example...bluah..blah..blee.bluu.blawr..

will you cut the memory interface from 512 to 256? LOL it is a product, engineers already decided what interface will do best for that product.

we just run it and see if it will profit. dude you are over complicating things just to win an argument that you will never win hehehehe

how many cards i run? well... that's the mystery dude  Cheesy
853  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Are the Nvidia 3000 Series the BEST GPUs for MINING EVER?! RTX 3070, 3080, 3090 on: September 17, 2020, 10:22:38 AM
They know nothing, here are first screenshots from RTX hashrate, very close to my expected hashrates  Grin

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ethereum-daggerhashimoto-mining-performance

Some chinese have been with the gpus for more than 2 weeks and they know nothing? You get the troll award of the day ehhe

RTX 3080 760 Gbps are around 123 from 2080ti so hashrate 63mh but i think the 30x0 is a bit faster so it can do 65mh

his estimate is only at 60% power draw of the card

his brain power lacks 40% lol  Cheesy

Hmm i was really close with my expect hashrate, you say it comes with over 100mh or more. 65mh to 80mh? and over 100 to 80mh. who was closer?
And whats the truth? Lol your comment, i see your brain. stupid sorry dude nothing more.

for me sweetspot is at powerlimit 65%.

estimates is about what a card can do? i say 100mhs, it can do 93mhs without optimizations yet so 100mhs is still on the table.

english language says "can do"...what can it do?, so far 93mhs.

so if you want to run in the "efficiency sector" then 65% power limit is the sweet spot but the hashrate is 80mhs. that's 15mhs difference to your prediction of 65mhs.

with further optimization a 10% increase is very possible so if runs efficient at 90mhs(optimized and efficient), you will be wrong with ~25mhs.
854  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs on: September 17, 2020, 10:08:06 AM
I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Donīt compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.
855  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs on: September 17, 2020, 09:48:11 AM


well, after 2 years nvidia was able to reproduce Radeon VII eth performance with more wattage  Grin

Yeah but nvidia did not need hbm2. So all in fairness still impressive as is just gddr6x.

it was the core, radeon vii hbm was bottle necked by the core, nvidia gddr6x amphere is what radeon vii should be.

besides amd and nvidia don't make gddr6x and hbm just for eth mining lol

Yes, the vega7 can do much more in hashrate, because the memspeed was incredible, samething as the old AMD R9 390, it has so much mem speed, but the bottleneck was the core.


r9 390 was just a refresh of r9 290 both are gddr5........same as 280x, that's why 280x was the best balance of efficiency, price and hashrate.

amd vram speed only become "incredible" when fury, fury x and nano were released with hbm.

remember when 1070/ti are both gddr5? hehe people got crazy about them, not me. gddr5 ended for me with r9 390 and rx 480.
856  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs on: September 17, 2020, 08:41:49 AM
well, after 2 years nvidia was able to reproduce Radeon VII eth performance with more wattage  Grin

Yeah but nvidia did not need hbm2. So all in fairness still impressive as is just gddr6x.

it was the core, radeon vii hbm was bottle necked by the core, nvidia gddr6x amphere is what radeon vii should be.

besides amd and nvidia don't make gddr6x and hbm just for eth mining lol
857  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🤖[ANN][BIS]Bismuth - Beyond DeFi on: September 17, 2020, 03:25:13 AM
i knew something is off with the dev's head when he is asking me to secure a deal for exchange listing LOL

i bet those 2 devs left are the one's who is dumping behind everyone's back hehe

I don't know who is dumping, but I know someone who used to work for them in the past and he was kicked out, he said they are greedy and I believe him since is not hard to figure out this if you look at the fact that one of their team -eggrasyll is charging a 10% fee on miners just because he can, and the rest is ok with it.

Well if you look earlier in this thread, devs mined this coin ahead of others aka premine. Explains the dumps, cryptopia stole the oppurtunity for more profitable dumps so the scam dump happened in qtrade hehe

And that 10% fee egg guy is anonymous? LOL, even anon coins have non anonymous devs. Shady people running this coin. Explains why no holder profited here except devs hehe
858  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs on: September 17, 2020, 12:45:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX9Eh_NaC5c

tear down video shows that this 3080 founders edition cards are going to be pretty much dust resistant (at least for the boards). a good feature for mining since cleaning is part of maintenance hehe
859  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: September 17, 2020, 12:41:26 AM

You buying these numbers ?

"As for the mining performance itself, the GeForce RTX 3080 has a mining rate of 73-74 MH/s out of the box on Ethereum DaggerHashimoto algorithm. The performance reaches up to 82-84 MH/s and overclocking the card leads to a maximum performance output of up to 92-93 MH/s. Currently, the AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT outputs around 50-54 MH/s while the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti delivers up to 54 MH/s."

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ethereum-crypto-mining-performance-leaks-out/



I've read that there will be overclocked version of this card in the future, of course you could probably overclock these cards...

yeah i think 75 to 90 is likely.

and i think running at 160-180 watts will let them do closer to the 75 and pushing at 225 watts will bring 90ish mh

personally my best guess is one of them a little better them two amd 5600 or 5700

I'm going to pick one up tomorrow from microcenter.  They're limiting one per household according to their website.   supposedly wildrigmulti supports it.   I'll try tomorrow.

They are still limiting the purchase quantity?


This reminds me of how back in the early iPhone days like the iPhone 4 or 4S or 5 they would have a limit of max quantity of 2. And you would see ads all over Craigslist where people would pay you $50 to buy the 2 phones for them. Basically the guy would meet up with you outside the Apple store, he would tell you to buy 2x of a White iPhone 4 or Black iPhone 4 and you would pay either by Credit card or cash. And then he would pay you right outside the store to give it to them.

The workers there pretty much saw what was going on and there is nothing they could do. What happened after to those iPhones? They basically got sold on Craigslist for double the price or they got exported to Russia or China. Crazy how the demand was back then for iPhones.

However I am wondering why they are limiting it for GPUs since there is no "GPU gold mine rush" like there was in 2017.

gamers vs miners getting their hands on these cards is a "gpu gold mine rush" kind of scenario already LOL, there is also a supply issue this early on 3080.
860  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs on: September 16, 2020, 06:02:21 PM
Hashrate isn't really impressive Sad
Ratio hashrate/price is almost the same as the AMD RX5700.

as is efficiency

the big gain is density

the board below can do 5 amd cards 4 x 5700 and 1 x 5600

https://www.ebay.com/itm/biostar-TB250-BTC-D-Pro-Motherboard-Mining/124217882169?

it will do 230-240 mh

or use same board with 4x 3080 and do  320mh

plus the advantage of mining other algos ... and significantly faster at those algos
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