So it's legal to steal from 14 year-olds? Seems legit.
Of course not. The contract will be voided and restitutions must be made. Alright. I'll play along with this BS. The contract cannot be voided unless it's taken to court and be ordered voided. So it's still a legal contract. A 14 year old can make a contract, it just can't be legally enforced in court. Re-read my last two posts, I clarified them. You still need to read the thread again. Hint: There wasn't a ToS. This is why theymos won't give him a tag. Because he didn't have a ToS that said he couldn't steal my Bitcoins. |
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*Sigh* So, what you're saying is that I can't sign up for an account on any website on the internet? The ToS's count as contracts.
Absolutely. if a website says you have to be older than a certain age to sign up, and you aren't, but you signup anyway - YES, you are scamming them. Oh, REALLY? I'll play along with this shit too. He didn't have a sign-up age. Also, just so you know, lying =/= scamming. Idiot. |
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So it's legal to steal from 14 year-olds? Seems legit.
Of course not. The contract will be voided and restitutions must be made. Alright. I'll play along with this BS. The contract cannot be voided unless it's taken to court and be ordered voided. So it's still a legal contract. A 14 year old can make a contract, it just can't be legally enforced in court. |
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When companies are honest it doesn't matter if the other party is 14 years old or not.
They just pay what they win.
Fact: I know 14 y.o. "kids" who make more in 1 month doing affiliate marketing than their parents do in the entire year working in their jobs. And the marketing networks pay them what they owe them, they don't come saying that contracts with 14 y.o. "kids" aren't enforceable, so cut the crap with his age.
Most likely that these companies don't know that they deal with 14 y/o. Even World of Warcraft requires an adult. So it's legal to steal from 14 year-olds? Seems legit. |
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To be honest, are any of the contracts on these forums really enforceable? It's not like there are any formal written contracts for 99% of these deals. Any lawyer could find a loophole in them.
IANAL
Too expensive to enforce. People just take a loss. For an example I could sue anyone in NY state, but it's at least $40 filling fee for a small claim court. I'm not really trying to "enforce" anything, I just want him to get a scammer tag so he can't scam anyone else (at least under this nick). |
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danieldaniel, aren't you 14? You have NO BUSINESS entering into contracts with other people, because they mean nothing in the eyes of the law.
There are three stages of consensus: 1. Negotiation. The two parties discuss the situation with each other and attempt to reach an acceptable solution. Being a minor does not affect this stage at all. 99% of disputes are resolved in this stage. 2. Mediation. The two parties discuss the situation with a third party and the third party proposes an acceptable solution the two parties ratify. Again, there is no reason why being a minor affects this stage. 0.99% of disputes are resolved in this stage. 3. Arbitration. Here, and only here, does the law come in. A third party enforces a solution upon the two parties to ensure consensus. If a minor is entering a contract, the contract may be declared void by the arbiter. 0.01% of disputes are resolved in this stage. There is no reason a 14-year-old has no business entering contracts, because the law only handles 0.01% of cases. Most cases are resolved through the cheaper methods of negotiation or mediation. Contracts with minors aren't enforceable. There is nothing else to add. All three steps are optional and not enforceable. To be honest, are any of the contracts on these forums really enforceable? It's not like there are any formal written contracts for 99% of these deals. Any lawyer could find a loophole in them. IANAL |
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I might sharpie my forehead jenger and post a picture holding my ID in my hand if I can get my hands on a camera tonight.  In all seriousness though, I don't need the loan anymore. With the glass of water of course.
You also have to put a shoe on your head. |
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danieldaniel, aren't you 14? You have NO BUSINESS entering into contracts with other people, because they mean nothing in the eyes of the law.
There are three stages of consensus: 1. Negotiation. The two parties discuss the situation with each other and attempt to reach an acceptable solution. Being a minor does not affect this stage at all. 99% of disputes are resolved in this stage. 2. Mediation. The two parties discuss the situation with a third party and the third party proposes an acceptable solution the two parties ratify. Again, there is no reason why being a minor affects this stage. 0.99% of disputes are resolved in this stage. 3. Arbitration. Here, and only here, does the law come in. A third party enforces a solution upon the two parties to ensure consensus. If a minor is entering a contract, the contract may be declared void by the arbiter. 0.01% of disputes are resolved in this stage. There is no reason a 14-year-old has no business entering contracts, because the law only handles 0.01% of cases. Most cases are resolved through the cheaper methods of negotiation or mediation. That's a pretty good way to sum it up. Thanks! |
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danieldaniel, aren't you 14? You have NO BUSINESS entering into contracts with other people, because they mean nothing in the eyes of the law.
*Sigh* So, what you're saying is that I can't sign up for an account on any website on the internet? The ToS's count as contracts. And, also, isn't one of the points of Bitcoin that it's free from any centralized government? This, in turn, should mean that anyone could use it. I'm not saying that I am free from the law (I'm not), but that I should be allowed to use Bitcoin. Also, you're assuming that any contract that I make would go to court. I just want to point out that almost none of broken contracts in this forum go to court. |
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Huh. So far I have one newbie with 2 posts, one person who won't give me his ID (and when I asked for his name/address he started ignoring me), and one person who gave me his ID but won't prove that it isn't fake.
Come ON guys! You scammers can do better than this!
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Sure, if you can give me a picture of you holding your ID and some object (glass of water, for example.
PM me that and a Bitcoin address and you've got a deal!
You're supposed to ask for that AFTER they have sent you the fake id.  Oh, I didn't know that. . |
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Would you do .2 BTC a week for 3 weeks? ( I pay u .2btc ) for the .5btc loan Positive rep from a trade done a few days ago. I have about $300 in silver coins pictured in the for sale forum (proof that I have some wealth)
Who was the trade with? Also, will you give me your full name and scan of ID? Sure, if you can give me a picture of you holding your ID and some object (glass of water, for example. PM me that and a Bitcoin address and you've got a deal! |
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Positive rep from a trade done a few days ago. I have about $300 in silver coins pictured in the for sale forum (proof that I have some wealth)
Who was the trade with? Also, will you give me your full name and scan of ID? |
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I'll take it but i'd want 5 days to return BTC.6 back to you.
Any proof that you can pay me back? Any rep? |
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If you don't like their fraud detection
It's not fraud detection. It seems to be a random "let's piss people off and see who responds" metric. I dislike Coinbase immensely. You're more than free defend the service but you're wasting your time trying to persuade me of anything in relation to it. Well, the same with every online money transfer service, right? And the same with every bank in existence? BTW: I'm not trying to convince you to like it. I'm just saying that they have a right to use fraud detection. |
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Paranoid much? Nobody in OTC responded.
Anyways, I don't really care. You said you would pay 25 BTC if he proved it was worth $400. It's as simple as that.
I'm not wasting any more of my time on this.
I don't know why you were wasting your time in the beginning, he knows he was trying to con me or some stupid newbie. I am not paying 25BTC for something he typed. That is a SCAM. And Yes I am paranoid after you two buddied up and were looking at all this and you said he was right, I need to make sure my bases are covered. EVERYONE KrLos IS A CONMAN BECAREFUL! He didn't type in the price for the second appraisal site! Stop faking facts! YES WITH A SITE HE TYPED IT IN TO and THAT IS ONE TOO MANY FOR ME! Other one is using CPC which is impossible to calculated on a domain since the domain is being sold not the page. Re-read the thread you obviously have no clue what is going on and you don't understand this. Oh, guess what? I just re-read the thread. Thanks for asking me to do that. http://www.valuate.com/qcu.co was the third appraisal site he gave. It valued it at $790. And, before you scream "CPC IS IMPOSSIBLE," it did the average CPC for the keyword QCU. So, smart one, why don't YOU re-read the thread? |
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Well, just a note that BTC-BOND moved to BTCT.co since GLBSE closed.
Now pays 0.03% daily.
Are you willing to do off-exchange sales? |
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Come on people, this is the best deal in town the forums!
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I'm offering a .5 BTC loan that can be paid back as .6 in 2 days.
The idea is that you can essentially buy rep from me, and then you can scam ANYONE YOU WANT with the reputation you gain from paying back a loan!
It only costs .1 BTC!
In case anyone says that I'm serious about the "buying reputation," I'm not. I just want a quick .1 BTC!
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Paranoid much? Nobody in OTC responded.
Anyways, I don't really care. You said you would pay 25 BTC if he proved it was worth $400. It's as simple as that.
I'm not wasting any more of my time on this.
I don't know why you were wasting your time in the beginning, he knows he was trying to con me or some stupid newbie. I am not paying 25BTC for something he typed. That is a SCAM. And Yes I am paranoid after you two buddied up and were looking at all this and you said he was right, I need to make sure my bases are covered. EVERYONE KrLos IS A CONMAN BECAREFUL! He didn't type in the price for the second appraisal site! Stop faking facts! |
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