I still have some faith in the human race  Shawn Keep lending on here and you will see that slowly eroded away. Actually probably pretty quickly unless you do DD DD? Also, I'd bet some good money that those loans aren't being paid back . |
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Aethero, who I believe to be the main owner said he was having some personal difficulties somewhere in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146611.140So far all payments are up to date, I'm not sure if Ziggap is coming back or not. I'm looking to move house at the moment due to a new job so some extra cash to pay for solicitors fees would be very welcome, hence I'm willing to sell these at roughly 25% of the outstanding debt because I could do with the money sooner rather than later and I'm not sure whether they will or will not eventually be paid out (me being honest about the matter). He is the main owner. Also, the BTCJam loan is up to date... But: - The dividends are NOT up to date. They aren't being paid.
- The previous payment on the loan was 5 or so days late.
The ZigGap site is completely gone at this point, replaced by a logo and a slogan (not ZigGap). |
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*Chirp* ?
I sold my debt. Got just under 50% worth, which is a profit (as BTC went up a lot). ZigGap is over. On an unrelated note this spells the death of the OTC/WOT network. Aethero was one of the most trusted people I've ever heard of. I guess everyone has their sell-out price. For Aethero, it was a million shares at 0.0001. Sad. Also, aethero owns way more than 1mil shares. He owes 20%-30%. |
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Um. You can use physical cards online, IIRC.
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*Chirp* ?
I sold my debt. Got just under 50% worth, which is a profit (as BTC went up a lot). ZigGap is over. On an unrelated note this spells the death of the OTC/WOT network. Aethero was one of the most trusted people I've ever heard of. I guess everyone has their sell-out price. For Aethero, it was a million shares at 0.0001. Sad. I think it's best to just trade with people you know. Also, aethero has always been unstable. See copumpkin's rating. The reasons I quit ZigGap: - Aethero was unstable and often went into rants
- He asked me to do things I wasn't comfortable with, such as go around the Internet and post spam about ZigGap
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*Chirp* ?
I sold my debt. Got just under 50% worth, which is a profit (as BTC went up a lot). ZigGap is over. |
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I could also sell you a small one.
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So it's 0.5BC to buy the scrybe loan and it will be 0.820304 back over the time of 25 weeks?
Hmm... I didn't really think about it like that. What would you offer? How about 0.45BC and give me at the end of those 25 weeks the 0.820304 in one transaction back? (or whatever is paid til then and rest later, if he is late) Don't really want to pay attention to that every week. Hmm... I could do that. I would feel better if you could get a BTCJam account though, and have me transfer the loan to you. PM me to finalize the trade if you want to do it. |
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So it's 0.5BC to buy the scrybe loan and it will be 0.820304 back over the time of 25 weeks?
Hmm... I didn't really think about it like that. What would you offer? |
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Here is some info about the ZigGap loan: - ZigGap has not been paying dividends on their stock on BitFunder
- One of the loan payments was late
- The ZigGap owner, aethero, hasn't been very stable (he would often go on rants saying how I'm pretending to be my age and that people are terrorizing him; see copumpkin's rating on OTC).
- ZigGap has been down for weeks
- Aethero has quit his day job to run ZigGap
- There have been rumors about aethero dumping his shares before all of this happened; I am not sure as to the validity of this.
- The price of BTC has went up exponentially since he took out the loan
- The ZigGap team is not made up of a "team of professionals," but is made up of a programmer (who is qualified for this job), as well as aethero and his wife.
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I have the following loans that I want to sell:
Loan #1*:
User: scrybe
Name: Long Term Reinvestment Loan
Amount of payments completed: 14/39
Amount of loan remaining: ฿0.820304
Ideal price for this loan: ฿0.5
Above loan is sold.
Loan #2**:
User: ZIGGAP
Name: ZIGGAP - Fast Secure Exchanges and Conversion
Amount of payments completed: 4/9
Amount of loan remaining: ฿3.015201
Ideal price for this loan: ฿1.7
Above loan is sold.
Once you buy either of these debts, I will either transfer the loan to you through the BTCJam system and/or forward payments to a BTC address that you provide.
*This loan is in good standing, and all payments have been made on time (as well as some payments early). I would just rather have the money now than wait for the loan to finish.
**See first response to this thread for info about this loan.
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Deprived,
Just from reading these boards, it seems you are involved with too many scam companies.
I would say 98% of the companies listed are scams.
Be careful.
Right now I am just invested in ASIC MINER because I cant find any other non scams out there.
Thoughts?
Depends what you mean by a scam. I'd say majority of companies (including this one) didn't start off with any intention to scam or defraud investors. Most fail because of gross incompetence. People believing they can run before they've properly learnt how to walk. People exaggerating things to sell shares (take a look at OP for this one - he claims a dedicated team of professionals yet soon as problems start he's whining about it being a one-man operation). As I run a fund that trades, and as the majority of companies are badly run I have no option but to trade in them. Whilst trading doesn't have the same degree of exposure as investment (I don't EXPECT them to make a profit for me - my profit comes from their investors) I do necessarily have exposure when a company suddenly gos bad (more accurately, when it suddenly becomes visible to everyone that it's bad - most were rotten inside from the start). I have to manage that risk - which so far I've done OK at. There's other non-scam businesses out there besides ASIC-MINER. Most will make a loss for you if you invest long-term, but they'll do so (fairly) honestly if that's any consolation. And don't forget ASIC-MINER was a gamble when it started - there was a significant chance they'd be late/never to market. That ASIC-MINER has done so well is largely down to the total incompetence/deceitful behaviour of two of their main rivals. ZigGap is made up of aethero, his wife, and a programmer (at least when I left). |
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danieldaniel no one uses paypal bro all people using paypal are scammers. I think this guy is trying to scam.
Daniel you know I have btc for paypal funds get rbecker to unban me and I will sell to you.
Heh, sorry. I already bought from BurtW. I'm not starting up this argument again, btw. <3 |
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Buying btc or selling btc ? If selling btc, I will do it.
Buying, sorry. |
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I have a lot of rep on OTC. I am currently on there and authed if you want to verify it's me.
I want to spend exactly $50.
(PS: If you can respond in less than 30 seconds, you'll have beaten my "fastest trade ever" record. I'll give you an extra $0.25.)
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would be nice if we can hear from ziggap a bit of the current situation and the future plan
Uh, let me ask you this: Would you want to buy BTC from a website that disappears for 2 weeks at a time? That just stops paying dividends? IMO, it doesn't matter that the website is up. ZigGap is over at this point. |
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Being a natural born moron/risktaker I am willing to buy a few shares if someone is selling. Of course at rock bottom prices, since I have no more info on the state of the company then anyone. (Also share holder in Crypto-Trade so I guess I'm just throwing BTC at whatever muppet venture I can these days). PM me if you are reputable member/owner and want to offload a few BTC worth of shares.
I have some BTCJam debt. PM'ing you now. |
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