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221  Economy / Speculation / Re: Ripples a threat to bitcoin? on: June 03, 2013, 04:16:30 PM
Could not watch BTC free-falling anymore and I exchanged all my BTC to XRP, wish me luck, I barely know anything about Ripple Cheesy

where can you exchange? I have some vastly overvalued XRP i want to swap for bitcoins.

You can exchange right in Ripple. The ripple client has a built in exchange feature where you can trade your XRP for BTC/BitStamp, which you can then withdraw to BitStamp and send to whatever wallet you want.
222  Economy / Speculation / Re: each large dump ends with less btc rich people? on: June 03, 2013, 04:14:37 PM
Large dumps redistribute coins to a larger number of people. Which in turn makes Bitcoin more widely support and also more 'useful'. It's a good thing

Except when there are a couple people who have placed the majority of the bids. Then you end up with people who already have a bunch of bitcoins gathering more. If the large dump precipitates more selling, you could end up with less people holding more bitcoins each after the dump.
223  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Start Using mBTC as Standard Denomination? on: May 30, 2013, 08:34:06 PM
Just use mB for anything less than one bitcoin.

E.G. the price of a USD is currently 7.8 mB.

But when dealing with larger numbers it still makes sense to use whole bitcoins rather than mB.

E.G. I would sell my car for 31 btc.

It would be silly to say my car costs 31000 mB, and even sillier to say my car cost 31 kmB (31 kilomillibitcoin)
224  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: You don't use BitCoin on: May 30, 2013, 08:24:13 PM
How many people here actually USE BitCoin and not just as a instrument of investment hoping to 'make it rich'? BitCoin isn't actually USED anywhere, besides a very few sites. Am I wrong? Post at least 10 sites (besides BitCoinStore.com) where you can buy things with BitCoin...

There are about 55,000 transactions per day. Every transaction is somebody spending their bitcoins on something. Take a look at this chart: http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions


That is patently false. Way back when, I could move my funds back and forth from two different wallets 55,000 times and not spend a satoshi on anything (ah, the days before mandatory transaction fees). Now it would get expensive, but I guarantee a sizeable chunk of those funds aren't being spent on services or products.

I would guess that a bit more than half the transactions I send are to myself, moving from one wallet to another, and that is not even counting the change I get back with almost every transaction I send.
225  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin are like diamonds ... on: May 30, 2013, 07:03:35 PM
It is possible to brute force diamond. Bitcoin private keys cannot be bruteforced.

Not sure that this is a valid comparison. You can't "brute force" a diamond. You can create one though.

No, you can't "brute force" aka create a "real" one. People still consider manmade diamonds far less valuable. Even if you'd argue that diamond has superiour properties that justify its price, manmade have better. Diffenences are hardly to detect, but if there is a detector it matters.


Another similarity is the lack of financial derivatives, but for that property I'd rather compare it with pennystocks.

Sure you can "brute force" a diamond: find a nice lady with a big rock on her finger, use your brute force to remove the diamond. Now you have a diamond which you didn't own before.

226  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is selling on bitmit worth it? on: May 30, 2013, 06:54:12 PM
I tried to sell a couple things, had them listed a couple months but got no response so I took down the listings.
227  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: short .011 btc for the SR on: May 30, 2013, 06:52:32 PM
Cool

im short .01 but asking for .011 to be on the safe side, any fellow users willing to help me out? i could pay you back and then some if you leave a return address.

1MJFN4n3DAAJn3k44DLuBAhYhBP8NtEEyP

Sure, I could help you out, just send a PM to me with your name, address, phone number, birthdate, social security number, mother's maiden name, and if you have a credit card (just for collateral) send your card number and security code and expiration date. If it all checks out I will send you the BTC you need right away Smiley
228  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin based supply chains. Satoshi based economy on: May 30, 2013, 03:47:38 PM
When the time comes that it is advantageous to use bitcoin to do business, you will not have to spend 5 hours explaining why we want to use bitcoins, you will take 1 minute to say "We could use bitcoins", the guy you are talking to will already have heard about it, and then you spend a couple minutes working out specific details.

We are not to that point yet, but someday people will suggest to you to use bitcoins because it will be better for them.
229  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to exchange BTC -> USD? on: May 30, 2013, 03:37:55 PM
It seems like this topic comes up once a week or so. There should be a sticky for it either here in "Newbies" or over in "currency exchange".

A couple other ways:
-go to the IRC channel #bitcoin-otc and find somebody to trade
-use one of the many exchanges (campbx.com, bitstamp.net, mtgox.com)
-look in the "currency exchange" subforum here
230  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Ripple a Scam? on: May 30, 2013, 03:32:23 PM
Why do you think it's not a scam?

Could you first provide an explanation of HOW it is a scam?

Being proprietary and closed source does not equate to scam.
231  Economy / Speculation / Re: Liberty Reserve shutdown is a boost for Bitcoin? on: May 30, 2013, 03:26:58 PM
If those people who bought at $200/btc had any sense, then they would also have bought at least as many bitcoins soon thereafter at $50/btc

Maybe, but....
If those people bought @266 according to the bullish hard math shit we read from some hero members around april, they have no money to spend until they sell @60  Grin


If they invested all their money at once based on what some people said on an internet forum, then they deserve to have lost a bunch of money.
232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Ripple a Scam? on: May 30, 2013, 01:44:51 PM
Ripple is a ponzi scheme , all ripples are created and distirbuted by opencoin

Do you know what a ponzi scheme is? If it was a ponzi scheme, then opencoin would be using the procedes of the sales of ripples to pay current ripple holders. XRP pay no interest, therefore this is not a ponzi scheme. Try again.
233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple or Bitcoin on: May 30, 2013, 01:37:24 PM
All i have to say is Liberty Reserve...same fate for Ripple.

Completely different situation.

Opencoin operates in the US under US law.

Opencoin is in the US and under US law, thus it will be even easier for the US to shut them down than it was for LR. Look at how easy it is to open an anonymous ripple account: they don't even ask you for a name and email address.
234  Economy / Speculation / Re: Liberty Reserve shutdown is a boost for Bitcoin? on: May 30, 2013, 01:31:02 PM

If you think $200/BTC is expensive... Then you do not know enough about both past Bitcoin history and its potential.

I don't think (and never said) it's expensive or cheap.
I've just asked if those who bought 200$/btc can really feel they've got "sound money for their retirement and health insurance".


If those people who bought at $200/btc had any sense, then they would also have bought at least as many bitcoins soon thereafter at $50/btc, thus their average cost of bitcoins would be no more than $125/btc, so they could sell right now for a profit. Even if they did not grab the dip, the price of bitcoins was under $100/btc for a while, so they could definitely have lowered their average cost by now.
235  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Any Newbies on btct.com? on: May 29, 2013, 07:30:25 PM
I think you meant to say BTCT.CO without the m, because that is the share trading site.
236  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Top 50 Most Trafficked BitCoin Sites on: May 29, 2013, 07:08:13 PM
sorry but what ripple is doing on this list

You can use ripple to transact in bitcoin denominated IOUs, so therefore it is related to bitcoins.
237  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] BTC.sx - Leveraged trading made easy on: May 29, 2013, 06:48:13 PM
Who's behind it?
Our team consists of seasoned traders with experience in some of the worlds most successful banks, investment banks and accounting firms.

Surely. And Justin Timberlake.

Why not be honest and say "Hi, I'm yet another kid around college age with some basic understanding of php and mysql and I've figured I'd cut my teeth on really dangerous stuff because I'm retarded like that" so we could just tell you to go code an MMORPG instead? What you're doing is a little like going to the doctor with nausea and vertigo but trying to pretend you're there for a broken leg.

LMAO You whine too much MP. Who gives a shit? Let them do their thing while you do your (shitty) thing (that barely anyone uses anymore).

LOL. Most of assets on BTCT and Bitfunder worth investing in are just pass-throughs to assets on MPEx, which apparently "barely anyone uses anymore".
238  Economy / Speculation / Re: Liberty Reserve shutdown is a boost for Bitcoin? on: May 29, 2013, 05:27:58 PM
One aspect I hadn't thought of until just now: Many of the news reports are mentioning bitcoins in one way or another while talking about the Liberty Reserve bust. Some talk about their similarities (anonymity, worldwide transfer of funds), while others talk about their differences (bitcoin does not have a central authority to arrest and shutdown the system). But as they say, any publicity is good publicity. There are people who are either hearing about bitcoins for the first time, or heard about them a while ago and are saying "WTF, bitcoins are worth $130, ten times what they were when I read about them in 2011, I should invest now before they go up another 10x!" So we might just see a "publicity bump", with another big bubble forming very soon!

In other words, "BUY! BUY! BUY!"
239  Other / Meta / Re: Marketplace trust on: May 29, 2013, 05:10:52 PM

So have the button say "Trust this person's feedback" to make it clear what the button does.

Exactly, and as an earlier poster said, this "Trust" thing is kind of unnecessary when you could just lock in the opinions of people whom did transactions with you by agreeing through the forum to exchange feedback on transactions. Press a button, agree to contract between two people, optional escrow, leave feedback, done. No need to trust anyone else's potentially political bias through negative feedback.

I think you have it backwards. the "trusted feedback" is not meant to protect against superfluous negative feedback, it protects against sock-puppet positive feedback gaming the system. I can make a bunch of accounts and give myself rave reviews, but those would all show up as "untrusted feedback" since you have no reason to trust any of those accounts, and thus you would still want to be wary of me.
240  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin parity: what is a bitcoin worth? on: May 29, 2013, 03:24:11 PM
1/21,000,000 of the world

You are saying the whole world is only worth 2.52 billion dollars? I think many economists would disagree with you. Just because there is a hard limit of 21 million bitcoins does not mean that each bitcoin is worth 1 21 millionth of the world, because they are just money and money has velocity.
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