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381  Economy / Speculation / Re: And so the dumping begins.. on: November 27, 2012, 05:38:30 PM
I think many of these threads can be recycled very nicely.

I think most of this forum can be automated.

Yeah, set up a bot to watch MtGox, if the price moves > 5% up or down it makes an "OMG, the price just (Jumped/Crashed)" thread, if it goes 5 days without moving >5% then the bot makes a "Wow, it's really steady" thread.
382  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Gamma SatoshiDICE Pass Through on: November 27, 2012, 05:36:13 PM
DeaDTerra, what is going to happen to this now that GLBSE has shut down?
It depends on how the transition goes.
If we have a good replacement of GLBSE, then we can move their.
Otherwise I could setup some kind of manual payout system,
or I could offer to sell the shares on MPEX and payout the amount I got from selling them.
I plan to honor my contract, but exactly how is to early to answer.
//DeaDTerra

I was just poking around, considering trying to get someone to offer a passthru on BTC-TC when I stumbled into your GLBSE issue here.

I'd love to see this on BTC-TC (http://btct.co/) ... Let me know if you're interested or not.  If not I'll see if I can push someone else into doing it.  Wink


I am thinking of either shutting the pass through down or doing it manually,
Tbh after all this Bullshit I am quite tired of exchanges and middle men.
//DeaDTerra

So you would be basically acting as a broker for people to buy shares on MPEX?

How do things work to claim the shares once you get the list from GLBSE?
383  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do we break $13 today? on: November 27, 2012, 05:27:56 AM
The question of the day, again!

You are bumping up way too many old threads.

OK, I will stop now.
384  Economy / Speculation / Re: Aaaaaand bitcoin takes off! on: November 27, 2012, 05:26:54 AM
History likes to repeat itself?
385  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do we break $13 today? on: November 27, 2012, 05:22:31 AM
The question of the day, again!
386  Economy / Speculation / Re: How high the spike will go this time? on: November 27, 2012, 05:21:32 AM
Remember when $8 seemed outrageous?
387  Economy / Speculation / Re: And so the dumping begins.. on: November 27, 2012, 05:19:38 AM
I think many of these threads can be recycled very nicely.
388  Economy / Speculation / Re: CRASH!!!! on: November 27, 2012, 05:17:06 AM
What is going on with the price lately?

 Wink Cheesy  Grin
389  Economy / Speculation / Re: zOMG SellOff! on: November 27, 2012, 05:14:29 AM
And not so surprisingly, there is an almost identical thread started today! Why do people keep starting the exact same thread over and over again?

"Hey, the price moved, what could it be?"
"Nobody knows."

The only exception was one time somebody posted "Why did the price just plummet?"  and everybody was like "Didn't you hear, Pirate just shut down his ponzi scheme."
390  Economy / Speculation / Re: What the heck triggered that dump? on: November 27, 2012, 05:09:30 AM
Nothing to see here. It is just a big miner making their monthly cash out to pay the electric bill.

Also, the price jumped up rather sharply the past week, a downward correction is almost inevitable.
391  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's compare USD and BTC on: November 27, 2012, 05:04:43 AM

You need to be very confident about your computer knowledge before you do all this alone by yourself

When the sum of money becomes larger than salary, it need to be managed against potential loss, people start to rely on institutional services. Even if you stashed 10000 BTC in your offline wallet, you will feel unsecure

No I would not.

You WILL if one BTC exchange value is $1000, by that price, a team will brake into your house with a gun pointing to you to get that string  Grin Grin If they succeed, no trace to chase them, it is almost a risk free robbery. Actually this could be a problem preventing BTC from going main stream

And to the computer part, either a web based online account or a managed pension fund, normal people can not go higher than this degree of complexity
How will this band of robbers know who owns the bitcoins? will they just randomly pick houses, break in , and demand money? What is to stop these people from doing this now, but instead of a bitcoin password demanding cash, jewelry, everything else? I think it would be harder to guess who has bitcoins lying around on their home computer, so to me it seems safer to stash money away as bitcoins than to keep other kinds of wealth.

unless you never touch exchanges

What does using exchanges have to do with anything?
392  Economy / Securities / Re: S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx on: November 27, 2012, 05:01:50 AM
Or you could use the Usagi method of accounting: back when they were first sold the shares were worth 0.0034 * 10 USD, now they are 0.0034 * 12 USD, so our investment has gone up 20% !!!
393  Economy / Speculation / Re: Another bubble? on: November 26, 2012, 09:56:54 PM
What we have here is people buying up bitcoins to give them out as christmas presents. Expect the price of bitcoins to steadily climb up until dec 26, when the price will drop back down to where it is now.
394  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is stealing Bitcoins illegal? on: November 26, 2012, 09:40:44 PM
You can disagree, of course, but in both your examples (land ownership and bank account) there is a third party keeping independent records about who is the rightful owner. There is no third party in bitcoin, If you have the private key you have the bitcoin. This is why in bitcoin the private key IS the right!

You're absolutely correct, of course. That's why no one has ever been convicted of stealing cash.

*sigh*


Haven't they?

Oh wait, are you being sarcastic?
395  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is stealing Bitcoins illegal? on: November 26, 2012, 05:29:44 PM
It might be illegal but theres nothing you can do if someone takes your coins. If the only excuse to have a state is to enforce property law what point is the state if that is impossible ?

Illegality is a moot point without enforceability and if people know they can get away with something it will brinng out the worst in humanity.



Could you expand on the idea that "theres nothing you can do if someone takes your coins"? What if somebody takes your cash, wouldn't you expect the state to make them give it back? Or if somebody takes off with your car? How is bitcoin any different?
396  Economy / Speculation / Re: Brace yourselves... on: November 21, 2012, 08:37:20 PM
buy and hold, don't try to day trade. GIANT SWINGS ahead

But the giant swings are where the day traders make money. All this stability is horrible for day traders.
397  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is stealing Bitcoins illegal? on: November 21, 2012, 05:23:59 PM
We should encourage our representatives to write laws
No.
Could we ask them to clarify existing laws then? Isn't that what they are there for?

No.  They are there to prey on you.  The whole "representatives are there to write just laws and defend the people" is just an *excuse* to prey on unsuspecting people who believe what these sociopaths say.

Maybe we could ask them to remove the laws we don't like then?
398  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is stealing Bitcoins illegal? on: November 20, 2012, 05:38:53 PM
We should encourage our representatives to write laws
No.
Could we ask them to clarify existing laws then? Isn't that what they are there for?
399  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / What percent of your bitcoins are on an exchange? on: November 20, 2012, 05:20:15 PM
How reliant on exchanges are you with your bitcoins?

Where do you keep your bitcoins? (On exchanges, other webwallets, on your computer, paper wallet)

How much do you trust your exchange or webwallet to keep your bitcoins safe?
400  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is stealing Bitcoins illegal? on: November 20, 2012, 05:07:08 PM
I'm guilty of posting in it, but this whole thread is asinine.  Dozens of hypothesis of why stealing bitcoins wouldn't be illegal based on technicalities of what a bitcoin is by armchair legal scholars. 
I think in instances like this, people just need to take a step back and think about the purpose of laws, and what the reasonable thing to do would be.  Is it reasonable to allow someone to get away with stealing other people's Bitcoins?  No.  Therefore, a law will be enacted against such theft, if one does not already exist that can be reasonably applied.

Whether a law currently exists or not is largely irrelevant - a law (or at the very least, a new precedent by judgement) will be created if necessary to ensure people's bitcoins are not stolen.

Laws do not just appear out of thin air by themselves. They require people to write them. We should encourage our representatives to write laws that make it clear that stealing bitcoins is illegal, and have them do it sooner rather than later.
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