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There is no liquidity on the order books. I've noticed limit orders tend to stay on the book a long time, and after BTC makes a big move, they are still sitting on the book. Unfortunately, there is so little liquidity that there isn't usually much to take advantage of.
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My total page views is 192 and Fheenix's is 32,000... So it makes a little more sense to me now why some people get positive multipliers, while some don't.
But if we could see our page views go up daily or weekly, I feel like we would be more compelled to work on that.
This would really help a lot. I have no way of knowing if anything I am doing is producing page views. Daily would be really helpful. Some kind of rolling average would be really helpful, too. I don't know how difficult this would be to do in practice. Unless you're promoting your work you should assume you are getting very few page views, that's generally how it works anywhere on the Internet. Uh, thanks. I am aware. It's hard to gauge whether promotion is working when you can't see if page views are being generated. |
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My total page views is 192 and Fheenix's is 32,000... So it makes a little more sense to me now why some people get positive multipliers, while some don't.
But if we could see our page views go up daily or weekly, I feel like we would be more compelled to work on that.
This would really help a lot. I have no way of knowing if anything I am doing is producing page views. Daily would be really helpful. Some kind of rolling average would be really helpful, too. I don't know how difficult this would be to do in practice. |
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My total page views is 192 and Fheenix's is 32,000... So it makes a little more sense to me now why some people get positive multipliers, while some don't.
But if we could see our page views go up daily or weekly, I feel like we would be more compelled to work on that.
Where do you see these stats? Do you have to run them through Google Analytics or something, or are they just posted somewhere? |
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So I am still unclear -- sorry to be such a noob. I had ~ over 71,000 words. So 40-Word Count means 40 shares. Does that mean my "earnings multiplier" is ~ .56? So when it says "an unpopular writer will get 0.75 generation shares per thousand words" I am significantly below that? I see.  I thought there would be some lag between the time that the round is closed and the time when the multiplier is calculated. I'm not sure why... I guess since payouts are delayed as they are. So if you post things at the very end of a round (the total traffic received will be much lower), that will likely drag your multiplier way down? I'm going to try to keep with it, but this is discouraging. I had no idea my writing would be worth so little (relative to other writers). I was excited about this project, but I may just engage in it on sort of a "back-burner" basis. Producing well-written articles/works is just too much work if I get paid 56% of what the "average" writer gets paid. No complaints... I understand the rationale for the multiplier. Just don't know if it's worth it. I'm not an online marketer. You got it right. 71802 words for 72 base shares. Multiplier was 0.558x, leading to total shares of 40. I guess I never quite understood -- and still don't, apparently -- what is being explained in the "earnings per word" section: The number of unique page views are divided by the number of words, then the root of that is taken and the roots of all the writers are normalized. That earnings multipler is multiplied by a goal seeked revenue neutralizing multiplier, then bounded from 0.75 to 1.25, and multiplied by the words to obtain the number of generation shares. To summarize, an unpopular writer will get 0.75 generation shares per thousand words, an average writer will get around a share per thousand words, and a popular writer will get 1.25 shares per thousand words.
I had always taken the bolded section to mean that our shares per thousand words would not be lower than .75, hence "bounded" -- and I thought that was at the very worst. Obviously this is not the case at all. Maybe I am terribly lacking in reading comprehension, but in the case that I am not, that section should be clarified. I have no idea how low the possible bottom is... but this may be too speculative for my taste. |
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So I am still unclear -- sorry to be such a noob. I had ~ over 71,000 words. So 40-Word Count means 40 shares. Does that mean my "earnings multiplier" is ~ .56? So when it says "an unpopular writer will get 0.75 generation shares per thousand words" I am significantly below that? I see. I thought there would be some lag between the time that the round is closed and the time when the multiplier is calculated. I'm not sure why... I guess since payouts are delayed as they are. So if you post things at the very end of a round (the total traffic received will be much lower), that will likely drag your multiplier way down? I'm going to try to keep with it, but this is discouraging. I had no idea my writing would be worth so little (relative to other writers). I was excited about this project, but I may just engage in it on sort of a "back-burner" basis. Producing well-written articles/works is just too much work if I get paid 56% of what the "average" writer gets paid. No complaints... I understand the rationale for the multiplier. Just don't know if it's worth it. I'm not an online marketer. You got it right. 71802 words for 72 base shares. Multiplier was 0.558x, leading to total shares of 40. Thought so.  Thanks. |
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So I am still unclear -- sorry to be such a noob. I had ~ over 71,000 words. So 40-Word Count means 40 shares. Does that mean my "earnings multiplier" is ~ .56? So when it says "an unpopular writer will get 0.75 generation shares per thousand words" I am significantly below that? I see. I thought there would be some lag between the time that the round is closed and the time when the multiplier is calculated. I'm not sure why... I guess since payouts are delayed as they are. So if you post things at the very end of a round (the total traffic received will be much lower), that will likely drag your multiplier way down? I'm going to try to keep with it, but this is discouraging. I had no idea my writing would be worth so little (relative to other writers). I was excited about this project, but I may just engage in it on sort of a "back-burner" basis. Producing well-written articles/works is just too much work if I get paid 56% of what the "average" writer gets paid. No complaints... I understand the rationale for the multiplier. Just don't know if it's worth it. I'm not an online marketer. |
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Hmmm, I'm not sure how to read this.   What does the __-word count mean following our usernames? The total word counts at the bottom are cumulative, right? |
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Is this a one-time thing? Like, once you have a rating, it's permanent? If so, I hope I get a nice rater.  I research and proofread all my work... still a bit scary though!  For what it's worth, I was in charge of vetting you out for this round, and you got a huge +1 from me. I really don't think you'll have any issues. Thanks! I apparently glossed over this section on the link posted by Unthinkingbit: Each writer gets up to eight raters. The writer's rating is the median of all their ratings. |
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Devtome now has ratings!
... Please, If You don't mind, could You add observations/advices to the rating system. (not only reason for down-voting) I mean, to guide a mediocre writer towards the envisioned goals, and not only to put good or bad marks... Sorry if already planned, no way to know it, peeked at given page Raters are encouraged to put comments, and they get paid for them: http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=devtome_rater#earningsdoes a rater just pick one article at random per user?
The rater.py script picks one article at random for the rater. The rater is rating the writer, the article link is there so they can quickly go to an article. It's up to the rater how they rate the writer. what is the difference in rating criteria for, say, a long and well-researched paper, vs. a short blog? both may be very well-written, but i'm not sure that they would be rated the same. any thoughts on that?
It's only for the quality of the work, if they're both well written they should be rated the same. The rating is used for the earnings multiplier, and that times the word count gives the number of shares. Is this a one-time thing? Like, once you have a rating, it's permanent? If so, I hope I get a nice rater. I research and proofread all my work... still a bit scary though! |
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I think it will all be fine. Did ya'll see that list of businesses accepting Devcoin? It's HUGE (Like 9+ places). As long as we promote that at the end of every round, Devcoin will go up in price and the MXCNow guy will feel stupid.
How do you think we should go about promoting this? And why at the end of every round, as opposed to say, in general? "Sorry the node for devcoin is too unreliable (crashes fairly often, has multithreading bugs). It doesn't meet my criteria for a stable enough chain."
This is the first ive heard about this, is this true? Tjats a major claim against the project. I thought we were doing something about fixing the code with I0Coin update?
Any more information about this? Pretty new to devcoin -- what are the issues and how is it being worked on? (Or is it being worked on?) |
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I think the new exchange mcxnow.com offers a bright future for Devcoin... it recently has and an injection of liquidity that is looking for a place to stay other than bitcoin. We know that when whales come in they would rather actively invest by trading. There are a handful of coins on there which are traded and dvc has benefited from the increased volume by hitting up to 100 satoishi recently! The volume was over 100 million dvc a few days in a row. We havent seen that on vircurex forever! Anyways I've been hearing from the chat mods and other users on the site that they are looking to replace devcoin with namecoin and we should all let our voices be heard if that is true. I really think that the exchange offers the light for dvc and we should try to fight to keep it alive. With it growing so fast I wouldn't be surprised if its labelled as 'the alt coin marketplace' and with big money coming in from stock exchanges (equity) I would see a big future for any alts on there. His email is mcxnow.exchange@gmail.com I believe that is realsolid's email. Jag RS (the owner of mcxnow) has stated that DVC is already in the process of being removed. He just wants to "transition it out" and is dropping it soon. I think we're a bit too far for saving it at this point, although if DVC gains momentum in the future it's a possibility. That really STINKS! EDIT: Right now there are 11,092 accounts, which means that the number of users who are on the site to buy or sell Devcoins could be a significant percentage of that. There probably is no better time to reach out to RS and tell him why you're there. Even those who don't have an account can reach out. If what Jag says is correct about mcxNOW being a significant reason for the recent increase in value in DVC, then that benefit has been felt by non account holders too. This is really too bad. I hadn't gotten around to joining the platform, and now it looks like I may not, after all. I have sent an email requesting that this decision be reconsidered. |
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I think the round ends at 109,300. (Does it?) Anyway, posted my first article! It's only 2.5K words, but it's a start Oh, maybe. Idk exactly. Nice. Good luck with writing I would order a book or two, for when you get writers block. Reading inspires ideas. I just ordered some books that are really going to help us out Over 30 marketing tips for helping a company go international Over 100 tips for social media A book specifically about how to get people to want to read your books, which can defintely be applied to articles and websites One about integrating a business to society And I'm reading the Art of War right now (Sun Tzu) So this article ( http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_advertising_campaign ) will be getting A LOT better soon I think I recall someone mentioning earlier that it was 109,300. Can anyone confirm? Also, since this is my first round I still wasn't sure how it works -- do shares go out at the end of next round? Like, this round ends at 109,300, next round ends at X -- we get paid for this round at X? Or maybe I understood it wrong and there isn't actually one round lag. |
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This always seemed inevitable to me. Aside from feeling shady about drugs in post, using a centralized entity, and using bitcoin (public ledger)... I always assume that I am not safe with Tor. I just don't have the know-how to make sure that there are no exploits. So I stay safe on the internetz...
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So it's spread across like 50 addresses?
its a number they made up pure and simple. Is that the consensus? Because that's what I've been thinking this whole time -- I was wondering where these numbers were coming from. How would anyone know? |
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Interesting... would love to see what a 40k coin sell does to the market today. |
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Hmmm. Well, I guess we'll see over the next few months if this gets adopted.... certainly seems to be strong potential for access/adoption (for US people anyway). Not sure how this will work in practice, though.
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I've been holding all fiat for weeks, luckily. (trading funds anyway, cold wallets aren't touched in this event.) tweaking them bids. |
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$51 is the bottom you heard it here first!
No sub-50 this time? Awww. |
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Busted for posting his email address on Bitcoin Talk. Awesome... Very smart of him...  I know, right? Real name in email address? Blows my mind. |
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