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1721  Other / Politics & Society / Re: When Will The Economy Collapse? on: September 17, 2013, 05:13:29 PM
The economy has BEEN collapsed. I'm 21 and have never had over $2,000. And things are only getting MORE expensive.
It will slowly get worse for most people, just like it has been for a long, long, long time.
1722  Economy / Speculation / Re: LOCALBITCOINS USD wall observer XXX-rated, don't let your kids see this! on: September 17, 2013, 05:04:50 PM
Something to consider is that people can list Bitcoins for sale, which they do not yet own.
This.  Smiley
1723  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Poll] Your trading style on: September 17, 2013, 05:03:13 PM
Got some coins I won't sell until/if we are several magnitudes above where we are. Otherwise, I'll trade 25%-100% of my funds over any given couple months and don't mind being 100% fiat when appropriate.  Smiley
1724  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: September 17, 2013, 04:58:41 PM
there is a lot more economic activity

I don't really see that.

And spread of market share among exchanges aside, what about the actual volume of BTC being traded?
1725  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why is Bitcoin so cheap? on: September 17, 2013, 04:54:13 PM
I don't think that people are forced to use fiat money, it is because that so far they have no other alternative and they never realized that there could be an alternative

Try paying your taxes with gold, silver or bitcoins then and see what happens.

Also: legal tender laws may force people to accept fiat money.


As long as people's income are in the form of fiat money, tax just mean reduced fiat money income, in fact many people don't even care about the tax since tax payments were already deducted from their salary

But if people's income is bitcoin, then the tax payment will be different. It is possible that people do not pay tax for bitcoin income. FINCEN regulation already said that if you purchase goods/services directly with your bitcoin, you don't need to pay tax. It means if you hold your coins for a couple of years and you can buy much more things with the same coin and you don't need to pay any tax even the bitcoin's purchase power increased many folds

What. That is not my understanding at all, from the tax code. FINCEN is not, as far as I know, in a position to advise on the tax code. Sources?

(I assume from your reference to FINCEN that you mean USA)
1726  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Poll] Do you have a life? on: September 17, 2013, 04:51:46 PM
Not day trading anymore was a great move -- I felt like bitcoin was consuming my life back then. Now I just trade once or twice a month, if that.

15 days, 15 hours.  Smiley
1727  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: September 17, 2013, 04:48:25 PM
Accumulation Distribution is taking a pretty steady nosedive as price is flat... Treading water, but for how long?
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg180zig2-hourztgSzm1g10zm2g25zxzi1gAccDistzv

The accumulators have moved to a different ship.

Would I be correct in assuming:  one cause could be all the liquid coins are not trading because they are being taken up by strong hands, and the supply is also distributing to a smaller minority as difficulty increases.  (So we could see a potential bubble?)

Or would I be better served by assuming that the volume is so low because there is very little new demand at the current price. (so we could see a correction?)


My money is on the latter.  Smiley
1728  Economy / Speculation / Re: Told ya so. on: September 17, 2013, 04:47:32 PM
The exponential growth of hash rate can not go on forever, we will see some storm after many ASIC devices become reserve hash power due to they cost more in electricity than mined coins

I'll check this prediction in 3 months  Grin

Yep  Grin
1729  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Coins For People Who Can't Mine!!!!!!!!!!!! on: September 17, 2013, 12:13:11 AM
CoinChat is still the best there is. If you come to #scramblebot Ill even give you a welcome tip.


Coinchat is only good for small amounts of BItcoins. Please do the math and see if its worth your time.

How small?

I've always been curious about this. Anyone have any experience?

Its obviously only worth your time if you have fun at doing it. 5-10 mBTC in an evening should be possible. Just use it like this forum, discuss about bitcoins.
If you're new on CoinChat be sure to PM me (roflmao129) Ill be sure to explain everything to you!

Well, if the 7-figure $ bitcoin crowd is right, maybe I'll give it a go and hold to sell for $5000 or $10,000....  Cheesy
1730  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trains on: September 16, 2013, 06:46:57 PM
Choo choo. Waiting for the bitcoin train to take off.....  Smiley
1731  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why is Bitcoin so cheap? on: September 16, 2013, 05:47:36 PM

I also believe that there is way too many suckers that bought at 31$, then sold at 2$ then again bought at 266$ and then sold at 70$ and these guys inject too much emotions into all of this. This could also include Falkvinge, BTW.


LOL  Cheesy Cheesy

Spot on! I guess Mr. F sold majority of his coins at $40 and now he hopes the price will go down to let him re-enter his position  Cool

Yeah, anytime a bear exists, it's because he sold and is chasing missed profits.

 Roll Eyes
1732  Economy / Speculation / Re: [poll] how much do you want for all your coins? on: September 16, 2013, 05:45:32 PM
I'll be happy to take $1 - $5 million.  Cool
1733  Economy / Speculation / Re: One week call on: September 16, 2013, 05:43:07 PM
Monday, September 23, 2013:   $124
1734  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: September 16, 2013, 05:41:11 PM
Seems to me like the amount of value being traded has, when you take into account prices, increased. I mean 50k coins at $10 each is less then 5k at $130.
Which is already reflected in the higher price. IMO BTC volume is the appropriate indicator.
This.

Poor Gox.  Smiley
1735  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens after the last coin is mined? on: September 16, 2013, 12:32:30 AM
lets talk about this in 100 years   Cheesy
Grin Grin Grin
1736  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 200 mBTC Private Bitcoin Freeroll Tonight at 9PM Eastern | Entry Codes Included! on: September 16, 2013, 12:27:59 AM
Snagged one, thanks!  Cheesy
1737  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I have recieved a mysterious payment on: September 16, 2013, 12:24:03 AM
Someone send a mysterious payment to the inputs.io address in my signature. Thanks in advance.

 Cheesy
1738  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [SELLING] Bitcointalk.org Hero Member for sell on: September 16, 2013, 12:22:59 AM
I suppose we agree to disagree on this one.


What do you disagree with?
It is not a debate, with argument like "USA is a nice country...".
It is a fact:

It is allowed to buy and sell accounts. Roll Eyes
Stop make false report plz.

This.
1739  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best Online Wallet? on: September 16, 2013, 12:21:59 AM
inputs.io for sure!

How is inputs.io safe at all? It is a shared wallet, which basically means someone (who we don't know, all we know he is 28 and from australia) created a website, that interfaces with the bitcoind which they control. They have your private keys and that means they can steal your funds AT ANY TIME. Please people research instawallet and you will then know why this is so unsafe and shouldn't even be consider a wallet. Please stop recommending it, as you tricking are newbies.

Obviously you have to factor in whether you trust him and his business. Just like any other business, or bank.
1740  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: will the bitcoin reach $1000 one day...? on: September 16, 2013, 12:20:40 AM
Within the next year or 2, I'm pretty sure. But this bubble needs to finish deflating first. Mt Gox's problems have really distorted the market.

the bubble already deflated. It seems the new low price is $100

We'll see. I think we'll be retesting $100 and then $88 and $78-80 supports. I think the latter may be the bottom. We shall see.  Cheesy

I'm prepared either way it goes. But I think it's going down.
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