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1501  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: May 16, 2013, 11:46:21 AM
I'm sorry but I'm getting somewhat tired from explaining this over and over again

Promise?
1502  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: May 16, 2013, 07:26:53 AM
On a sidetopic TAT was wondering if you knew why btct.co is down usually just watch that exchange but it seems down from here

DDOS attacks, they are working hard to get back up!
1503  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: May 16, 2013, 06:52:23 AM
Could it possibly be that, and let's just be purely hypothetical here for a moment, that people that sell out at these very low levels (according to the logic of those buying) have done the math and think that the price won't rise anymore? That, perhaps, they believe the policy of paying out every last dime of available cash may not be the best strategy for future growth?

Today's volume and price behavior is a blip in the life of ASICMINER. Do you know how many shares have been imported into ASICMINER-PT this week? Maybe 500 or so. G.ASICMINER? About 200. The TAT assets? about 200. Yet somehow the average price is still over 1.7. Only about 21% of the publicly held shares even exist on an exchange. My point is, MANY people are still buying, and MANY MANY more are still holding.

I'm sorry to say, but with the latest dividend payout, my confidence in AM has fallen dramatically. I think it is irresponsible of them to pay out the equivalent of ฿60K in dividends per month, the equivalent of almost 50% of the entire Bitcoin coin production.

You do realize, that AM is nearly debt free, is sitting on cash and BTC, and has a steady income that is very significant?

You do realize, that Friedcat has a demonstrated history of forethought, execution, agility, and business acumen?

I'll happily admit I've sold most of my AM holdings after running numbers again that show me there is no possible way to recouperate a share price of ฿1.7, much less yield a profit, when you think beyond 2016.

Ah, so this is the root of it. You have provided us with a giant wall of text, while rudely responding to Aureum_Coffee, in some unrealized attempt to convince yourself you did the right thing by taking your money and running. It's okay, and a very sound strategy to realize your profits when you are comfortable with your gains, but your actions do not limit ASICMINER from being more creative, diverse, and industrious than you can predict.

At these price levels, investors have a negative ROI of 8% per year if friedcat manages to get his projected 10% of the total hash rate on average and only manages to sell ฿1000 worth of hardware per month. Even at 15% of the total hash rate, the annual yield looks like around 1%. At 20% of the hash rate on average, AM yields slightly better than a NASDAQ composite index fund.
.b

You do realize, it is quite possible that it is you that is being short-sighted here? 10% is Friedcats minimum goal. We still have next-gen hardware to make, and who knows what other hardware, partnerships, and contracts will come from ASICMINER. He just sold 8000+ BTC of hardware in ONE WEEK, and you want to presume he can only sell 1000 BTC per month going forward?

Don't mistake my responses for unabashed lemming fanboism, I too have my reservations and limits to what I will risk. However, in this case I see more room for growth, and you do realize that growth potential is the true driver of share value, not dividends or some volatility.
1504  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc. on: May 16, 2013, 12:14:08 AM
also having issues with deposits not showing up (even though they have well over 6 confirmations).  anyone else experiencing this?

+1

I think everyone should just give the site a break for a couple hours.
1505  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCT.CO][LTC-GLOBAL] Crypto-trade.com : IPO started! on: May 15, 2013, 10:55:13 PM
who else sees it coming? and i dont mean the launch of the site...

I've been watching the unicorn descend upon us since I read the IPO details months ago.

When it finally hops off the rainbow, in a cloud of glitter and purring kittens, it will be beautiful.

you got it  Grin

I dont want to troll (as people here call it). But just to make this clear: This operation has all the ingredients of a scam.
My favorite one is the statement in the IPO details about not actually needing public money to build the exchange. LOL ROFL AFK #WHATEVER

Fortunately I'm not invested in this. *leaning back and watching the show*

I'm eaning with koddos 50 000 usd month....could proof it in a matter of second...So yes I didnt need money to build the exchange  Wink
Scamming an IPO using my koddos name would just kill my other and main business...I will be the worst dumb scammer ever if I would scam...


I dont have to be right, of course. I'm just saying all the ingredients are there. E.g. I don't get why all your explanations of the delays are so vague, or why you have this non-changing "demo" page which could be put together in 2 days work. Anyway, I'd be happy if my gut feeling is wrong, because we could really need new exchanges.

Have you ever built a unicorn? No, I didn't think so. Quit being so mean!
1506  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] ASICM, a New Micro-share ASICMINER Passthrough! on: May 15, 2013, 10:06:38 PM
Dividends have been released manually by Havelock!

In the future we should be able to pay even more quickly now that the bug has been fixed Smiley
1507  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] ASICM, a New Micro-share ASICMINER Passthrough! on: May 15, 2013, 08:55:05 PM
Dividends have been scheduled for payment at 0.00034411 per share!

Unfortunately, the system within Havelock doesn't currently support instant payout, so this will clear tomorrow.

Maybe Lightbox can push them sooner?

If you post the payout for the current day, it'll be paid out at the top of the next hour... you do not have to post it for a date in the future.. I wont change the one thats there now, since it has already announced, we'll let it go tomorrow (at 8AM)

James


I tried, it would not let me use the current day. :/
1508  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc. on: May 15, 2013, 07:48:32 PM
I just started using btc-tc. Has the website always been slow and unresponsive?

Yeah, it's what happens when people gets 600BTC in divs and wanna buy buy buy!
1509  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Satoshi Dice -- Statistical Analysis on: May 15, 2013, 07:28:47 PM

I guess we can expect the next shares dumping by "unknown" investor... soon.
Do not worry, it will be dressed up as big favor to all the current share holders and shills will cal it "lowering the average cost of investment" or similar bs.

Erik recently said he will never release more tranches of shares. Not sure how or why he can promise that, but he did.
1510  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: May 15, 2013, 05:45:55 PM
I am hoping to buy like 2 more shares from the 1.7 Wall... my send is almost thru... take your time Smiley
who sells that many shares at that price right before the giant dividend?  They are basically missing out on their 18 btc in dividend.  Also, with that many shares, they could easily move to BTCT and sell at 1.78+

So, I guess someone is trying to keep the price low, that's the only way to explain it, cause what they are doing doesn't make sense.

I've seen these walls before.

Think about it - If this guy bought, say, 1000 shares at IPO,  he has probably gained 100x his investment by now.

His wall is worth like $100k now from almost nothing. I bet he's happy to get what he's getting.

Doesn't mean it's not a good investment for us. But agreed, why not move it to BTCT or auction here?

PS - Got 2 more shares!  Thanks Dead!

The wall is likely owned by DeadTerra, whom is liquidating shares that are part of a group-owned fund that is being settled from the GLBSE days.
1511  Economy / Securities / Re: [Bitfunder] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough on: May 15, 2013, 05:35:29 PM
I release more shares constantly, I try to keep them at or above the average market value, but sometimes I sell lower in order to complete other deals.

Generally you can expect all the passthroughs to fluctuate to form an average price. Sometimes mine are cheapest, sometimes mine are the most expensive; there are many factors at play.

I have no way to predict how many shares will enter the PT market, but I can tell you I will keep accumulating shares for as long as it is profitable for me to do so. My first goal is to reach 5000 whole-shares, in order to get a board seat with ASICMINER.

1512  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough! on: May 15, 2013, 05:08:20 PM
What do you define as "bulk" since currently on BTCTC you only hold 219 shares. 

Send me a pm and we can talk. I hold a lot more than you see on BTCT.
1513  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough! on: May 15, 2013, 04:35:25 PM
What makes you decide when to import more shares in?  I am considering buying in, but currently doing so would kind of spike the market.  Would you be willing to have me transfer my shares from burnsides PT directly into yours?

I regularly buy AM whole-shares in bulk (for a buyer-favorable price), that is the closed service I can offer to what you describe at this time.
1514  Economy / Gambling / Re: [BitBet] Rejected Asicminer bet on: May 15, 2013, 03:43:46 PM
yes, contact friedcat and ask exactly what hashes he is responsible for, if he is impartial in the bet.

Pseudonymous Bitcoin, remember?

i do not see the point you are trying to make

She's saying that you couldn't prove Friedcat is Friedcat.
1515  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: May 15, 2013, 03:40:59 PM
Just popping in to confirm that I paid out all my shareholders dividends before I even got 6 confirms from Friedcat. All divs were the proper amount.

Please note that due to technical complications on Havelock and BTCT, your dividend may be delayed past when I instigated the payouts.

Don't sell your shares til you have confirmed receiving your divs! ... or don't sell them at all Wink
1516  Economy / Securities / Re: [Bitfunder] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough on: May 15, 2013, 03:35:59 PM
So how much more are these shares gonna shoot up now that the dividend tripled from last week?

My short-term guesstimate is 2BTC sometime less than 3 weeks from now. This is not financial advice!

Wait... 1 micro-AM share = 2 BTC?!

So AM shares will be 200 BTC?!?!?!

Now I'm bullish on AM but dear god...

LOL  Tongue
1517  Economy / Securities / Re: [Bitfunder] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough on: May 15, 2013, 03:31:09 PM
So how much more are these shares gonna shoot up now that the dividend tripled from last week?

My short-term guesstimate is 2BTC sometime less than 3 weeks from now. This is not financial advice!
1518  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough! on: May 15, 2013, 03:26:58 PM
0.03688841 / 100 = 0.0003688841 * 0.95 = 0.00035044 != 0.00034411

Care to explain?

Div was not .03688841 from Friedcat, it was 0.03622241.

Also, it looks like the site choked on paying out the dividend as scheduled, I will contact Burnside about this.
1519  Economy / Securities / Re: [Bitfunder] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough on: May 15, 2013, 03:17:50 PM
Dividends paid out at 0.00034411 per share!
1520  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough! on: May 15, 2013, 03:16:27 PM
Dividends paid out at 0.00034411 per share!
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