Cricket match prediction discussions

[ilovealtcoins]

One state, one vote idea is not fair, because in India the states and union territories and not similar in size. On one hand we have Uttar Pradesh with a (growing) population of 250 million, and on the other hand we have Sikkim with a (declining) population of 600,000. And there are Union Territories with a population in five digits. So how can it be justified, if Sikkim is given the same voting rights as Uttar Pradesh? The existing system of giving multiple votes to some of the states is wrong, but Lodha's stupid recommendation is even worse.

This might not look good on argument because of economics but in a longer run if one wants to break monopoly of few states in the BCCI then 1 state, 1 vote seems viable solution and it's BCCI job to empower weaken states. 

We've discussed UP once, Personally i'm big supporter of UP fielding at least 3 teams (4 if you count Bundelkhand, basic formation according to district distribution) but in doing so we're are creating another Maharashtra type of model as far as voting is concern. Ideally any states should be allowed to have multiple teams according to population and financial situation but must get only 1 vote. 

Exactly. If the bigger States have more power they will obviously try to abuse their power. And the smaller States will obviously feel inferior compared to the biggest States. It is obviously not going to be a solution for now. and it might also cause a lot of problems regarding the power position but it is a good solution for the long run.

But let me be clear I don't support equality. I support justice and I think this will be a justifiable option so that no state feels inferior or superior compared to others.

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[Sithara007]

This might not look good on argument because of economics but in a longer run if one wants to break monopoly of few states in the BCCI then 1 state, 1 vote seems viable solution and it's BCCI job to empower weaken states. 

We've discussed UP once, Personally i'm big supporter of UP fielding at least 3 teams (4 if you count Bundelkhand, basic formation according to district distribution) but in doing so we're are creating another Maharashtra type of model as far as voting is concern. Ideally any states should be allowed to have multiple teams according to population and financial situation but must get only 1 vote. 

Agreed. As of now, Maharashtra and Gujarat has 6 first class teams combined, while Uttar Pradesh fields just one team despite the fact that it's population is larger than the combined population of both Maharashtra and Gujarat. And as per the Lodha recommendation, all of the Northeast states were allowed to field their own first class teams. But their performance has remained below par. And in almost all the cases, more than half of the players are not native, and are sourced from the larger states such as Uttar Pradesh.

[JSRAW]

One state, one vote idea is not fair, because in India the states and union territories and not similar in size. On one hand we have Uttar Pradesh with a (growing) population of 250 million, and on the other hand we have Sikkim with a (declining) population of 600,000. And there are Union Territories with a population in five digits. So how can it be justified, if Sikkim is given the same voting rights as Uttar Pradesh? The existing system of giving multiple votes to some of the states is wrong, but Lodha's stupid recommendation is even worse.

This might not look good on argument because of economics but in a longer run if one wants to break monopoly of few states in the BCCI then 1 state, 1 vote seems viable solution and it's BCCI job to empower weaken states. 

We've discussed UP once, Personally i'm big supporter of UP fielding at least 3 teams (4 if you count Bundelkhand, basic formation according to district distribution) but in doing so we're are creating another Maharashtra type of model as far as voting is concern. Ideally any states should be allowed to have multiple teams according to population and financial situation but must get only 1 vote. 

Exactly. If the bigger States have more power they will obviously try to abuse their power. And the smaller States will obviously feel inferior compared to the biggest States. It is obviously not going to be a solution for now. and it might also cause a lot of problems regarding the power position but it is a good solution for the long run.

But let me be clear I don't support equality. I support justice and I think this will be a justifiable option so that no state feels inferior or superior compared to others.

Absolute equality is not possible anyway.

Problem is cricket lobby in few states are very powerful and they're not ready to give up their power at any cost. Even SC appointed officials failed to bring any consensus, although their approach was quite self defeating on many instance, like dragging the matter for too long.

This might not look good on argument because of economics but in a longer run if one wants to break monopoly of few states in the BCCI then 1 state, 1 vote seems viable solution and it's BCCI job to empower weaken states. 

We've discussed UP once, Personally i'm big supporter of UP fielding at least 3 teams (4 if you count Bundelkhand, basic formation according to district distribution) but in doing so we're are creating another Maharashtra type of model as far as voting is concern. Ideally any states should be allowed to have multiple teams according to population and financial situation but must get only 1 vote. 

Agreed. As of now, Maharashtra and Gujarat has 6 first class teams combined, while Uttar Pradesh fields just one team despite the fact that it's population is larger than the combined population of both Maharashtra and Gujarat. And as per the Lodha recommendation, all of the Northeast states were allowed to field their own first class teams. But their performance has remained below par. And in almost all the cases, more than half of the players are not native, and are sourced from the larger states such as Uttar Pradesh.

IMO if BCCI starts pumping money in northeast then i believe we'll see some improvement on local representation.

[Sithara007]

IMO if BCCI starts pumping money in northeast then i believe we'll see some improvement on local representation.

I have watched a few matches of these teams. Manipur is almost 100% native, as they have a number of well known local cricket clubs. But most of the other teams rely on mainland players. Meghalaya is majority mainlander, with just around 25% native, while teams like Nagaland and Sikkim are around 50% native. I don't know whether the BCCI is interested in developing cricket in these states. Football is more popular than cricket there, and Manipur is famous for being a powerhouse for other sports such as field hockey and athletics.

[Marvell1]

IMO if BCCI starts pumping money in northeast then i believe we'll see some improvement on local representation.

I have watched a few matches of these teams. Manipur is almost 100% native, as they have a number of well known local cricket clubs. But most of the other teams rely on mainland players. Meghalaya is majority mainlander, with just around 25% native, while teams like Nagaland and Sikkim are around 50% native. I don't know whether the BCCI is interested in developing cricket in these states. Football is more popular than cricket there, and Manipur is famous for being a powerhouse for other sports such as field hockey and athletics.

But cricket is the most popular sport in India. It is really hard to see any other sport prosper like cricket in India. Football was also pretty popular before the pandemic situation. But that is gone right now. If these are places where cricket can be popularised because cricket is not very popular there, I think a lot more talent will come forward. But that will also mean the downgrade of the popularity of other sports.

[Sithara007]

IMO if BCCI starts pumping money in northeast then i believe we'll see some improvement on local representation.

I have watched a few matches of these teams. Manipur is almost 100% native, as they have a number of well known local cricket clubs. But most of the other teams rely on mainland players. Meghalaya is majority mainlander, with just around 25% native, while teams like Nagaland and Sikkim are around 50% native. I don't know whether the BCCI is interested in developing cricket in these states. Football is more popular than cricket there, and Manipur is famous for being a powerhouse for other sports such as field hockey and athletics.

But cricket is the most popular sport in India. It is really hard to see any other sport prosper like cricket in India. Football was also pretty popular before the pandemic situation. But that is gone right now. If these are places where cricket can be popularised because cricket is not very popular there, I think a lot more talent will come forward. But that will also mean the downgrade of the popularity of other sports.

In India, there are regions where cricket is not as popular as other sports. As I mentioned earlier, one example is that of North-eastern states such as Nagaland and Mizoram. Football is far more popular than cricket in these states. You can notice the same situation in Northern Kerala and Goa as well. And in states such as Punjab, field hockey is more popular than cricket. India is known as a cricket crazy nation, because in the larger states such as Uttar Pradesh and Maharashtra, 90% of the residents would list cricket as their favorite sport.

[Juggy777]

IMO if BCCI starts pumping money in northeast then i believe we'll see some improvement on local representation.

I have watched a few matches of these teams. Manipur is almost 100% native, as they have a number of well known local cricket clubs. But most of the other teams rely on mainland players. Meghalaya is majority mainlander, with just around 25% native, while teams like Nagaland and Sikkim are around 50% native. I don't know whether the BCCI is interested in developing cricket in these states. Football is more popular than cricket there, and Manipur is famous for being a powerhouse for other sports such as field hockey and athletics.

But cricket is the most popular sport in India. It is really hard to see any other sport prosper like cricket in India. Football was also pretty popular before the pandemic situation. But that is gone right now. If these are places where cricket can be popularised because cricket is not very popular there, I think a lot more talent will come forward. But that will also mean the downgrade of the popularity of other sports.

In India, there are regions where cricket is not as popular as other sports. As I mentioned earlier, one example is that of North-eastern states such as Nagaland and Mizoram. Football is far more popular than cricket in these states. You can notice the same situation in Northern Kerala and Goa as well. And in states such as Punjab, field hockey is more popular than cricket. India is known as a cricket crazy nation, because in the larger states such as Uttar Pradesh and Maharashtra, 90% of the residents would list cricket as their favorite sport.

@Sithara007 thanks for sharing these stats, because it was my basic understanding that Indian’s only preferred cricket before any other sport. Furthermore BCCI will only spend money on those states if fans demand them to nurture the talent out there, or some powerful people recommend them to spend on those states otherwise on their own I doubt that BCCI will spend any money developing those states player’s.

[crunck]

But cricket is the most popular sport in India. It is really hard to see any other sport prosper like cricket in India. Football was also pretty popular before the pandemic situation. But that is gone right now. If these are places where cricket can be popularised because cricket is not very popular there, I think a lot more talent will come forward. But that will also mean the downgrade of the popularity of other sports.

In India, there are regions where cricket is not as popular as other sports. As I mentioned earlier, one example is that of North-eastern states such as Nagaland and Mizoram. Football is far more popular than cricket in these states. You can notice the same situation in Northern Kerala and Goa as well. And in states such as Punjab, field hockey is more popular than cricket. India is known as a cricket crazy nation, because in the larger states such as Uttar Pradesh and Maharashtra, 90% of the residents would list cricket as their favorite sport.

Yes, I agree that football has really good popularity in India, at least in certain states of India. And the same goes for field hockey.

But the most realistic situation for a person living in India will always be playing cricket as a profession because the other sports do not have enough patrons in India. So cricket is the only sport that can give future stability. If anyone plays other sports eventually they will have to leave that sport and look for another job. But that probably will change in the future but it is going to take at least 5 to 10 years. And India is also concentrating on cricket a lot more right now.

[Sithara007]

Yes, I agree that football has really good popularity in India, at least in certain states of India. And the same goes for field hockey.

But the most realistic situation for a person living in India will always be playing cricket as a profession because the other sports do not have enough patrons in India. So cricket is the only sport that can give future stability. If anyone plays other sports eventually they will have to leave that sport and look for another job. But that probably will change in the future but it is going to take at least 5 to 10 years. And India is also concentrating on cricket a lot more right now.

Cricket has definitely more "prestige" in India when compared to the other sports. IPL is one of the richest sports leagues in the world, while the other leagues in India have struggled to survive. ISL and PKL salaries are only a fraction of those in the IPL. Leagues such as Hockey India League (HIL), Indian Premier Handball League (IPHL) and Super Boxing League have become defunct. Corporates refuse to sponsor sports other than cricket. Even former football strongholds such as Goa are now getting dominated by cricket.

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Yes, I agree that football has really good popularity in India, at least in certain states of India. And the same goes for field hockey.

But the most realistic situation for a person living in India will always be playing cricket as a profession because the other sports do not have enough patrons in India. So cricket is the only sport that can give future stability. If anyone plays other sports eventually they will have to leave that sport and look for another job. But that probably will change in the future but it is going to take at least 5 to 10 years. And India is also concentrating on cricket a lot more right now.

Cricket has definitely more "prestige" in India when compared to the other sports. IPL is one of the richest sports leagues in the world, while the other leagues in India have struggled to survive. ISL and PKL salaries are only a fraction of those in the IPL. Leagues such as Hockey India League (HIL), Indian Premier Handball League (IPHL) and Super Boxing League have become defunct. Corporates refuse to sponsor sports other than cricket. Even former football strongholds such as Goa are now getting dominated by cricket.

Yeah! It is obvious because you know, cricket is and will be generating a lot more revenue compared to the other sports in India.

So, those sponsors will obviously want to invest in cricket instead of these sports, right?

Cricket can bring them multiple times the money that they invest which the other sports League obviously will not be able to do. So, it is not a surprise for me to see the majority of sponsors being interested in cricket now.

[Sithara007]

Yeah! It is obvious because you know, cricket is and will be generating a lot more revenue compared to the other sports in India.

So, those sponsors will obviously want to invest in cricket instead of these sports, right?

Cricket can bring them multiple times the money that they invest which the other sports League obviously will not be able to do. So, it is not a surprise for me to see the majority of sponsors being interested in cricket now.

IMO, the sponsors don't want to take the risk. They want to invest in a product (IPL) that is already popular. They don't want to invest in the other leagues, because they are not popular as of now, although they may become popular in the medium to long term. Another issue is related to the stability. Leagues such as HIL are defunct now. Those who invested their money in these leagues are now left high and dry. The situation is similar to the numerous ICO scams we had in 2018, when the development team suddenly stopped all their activity once they received money from the investors.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Good news for Pakistan as there young rising fast bowler Muhammad Hasnain is cleared to bowl in international cricket by ICC. It will be interesting to see whether Hasnain can bowl the same way he was bowling with his original action or not.

" Pakistan quick's elbow extension has come down from the earlier flex of 17-24 degrees to 12-13 degrees " https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/pakistan-news-bowling-action-mohammad-hasnain-cleared-to-bowl-internationally-again-1318697

[S A KHAIR]

Good news for Pakistan as there young rising fast bowler Muhammad Hasnain is cleared to bowl in international cricket by ICC. It will be interesting to see whether Hasnain can bowl the same way he was bowling with his original action or not.

" Pakistan quick's elbow extension has come down from the earlier flex of 17-24 degrees to 12-13 degrees " https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/pakistan-news-bowling-action-mohammad-hasnain-cleared-to-bowl-internationally-again-1318697

It is obviously very good news for Pakistan cricket. Muhammad Hasnain is cleared to play for Pakistan and I believe this player will also play very well for Pakistan. I believe this player will be able to perform as he was doing without dropping the pace of his bowling. I hope he will also be able to maintain his accuracy.

[Sithara007]

Good news for Pakistan as there young rising fast bowler Muhammad Hasnain is cleared to bowl in international cricket by ICC. It will be interesting to see whether Hasnain can bowl the same way he was bowling with his original action or not.

" Pakistan quick's elbow extension has come down from the earlier flex of 17-24 degrees to 12-13 degrees " https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/pakistan-news-bowling-action-mohammad-hasnain-cleared-to-bowl-internationally-again-1318697

From what I have seen, very few of the fast bowlers have maintained their pace and seam movement once they have been rehabilitated. It would be a shame to lose Hasnain, because he is such a talented player. I seriously hope that he is able to maintain his skills even with a changed bowling action. That said, I don't expect him to be back in international cricket immediately. He first need to prove himself in the domestic circuit. And anyway, getting back in to the national team is not going to be easy. Too much competition there.

[onecall123]

A great news has arrived! From 31st July to 21st August, the Lanka Premier League will take place for the third time. Due to the instability of their government, I thought the Sri Lankan Cricket Board was short of money. The initiative was taken because the Cricket board had money, so that's good. Slowly but surely, the Lanka Premier League is becoming more popular. In the lead up to the 2022 World Cup, the Lanka Premier League should be a successful event. This will help the Sri Lankan teams to succeed.

[Theones]

A great news has arrived! From 31st July to 21st August, the Lanka Premier League will take place for the third time. Due to the instability of their government, I thought the Sri Lankan Cricket Board was short of money. The initiative was taken because the Cricket board had money, so that's good. Slowly but surely, the Lanka Premier League is becoming more popular. In the lead up to the 2022 World Cup, the Lanka Premier League should be a successful event. This will help the Sri Lankan teams to succeed.

Many experts think that in the time of tormail - cricket or any other sports can distract the people and can bring in a little joy.
But not always - the chaos Sri Lanka went through - is irreparable - but hope in coming days things get better and people feel good too.

[BALIK]

A great news has arrived! From 31st July to 21st August, the Lanka Premier League will take place for the third time. Due to the instability of their government, I thought the Sri Lankan Cricket Board was short of money. The initiative was taken because the Cricket board had money, so that's good. Slowly but surely, the Lanka Premier League is becoming more popular. In the lead up to the 2022 World Cup, the Lanka Premier League should be a successful event. This will help the Sri Lankan teams to succeed.

I wonder if this was the right decision taken by the Sri Lankan cricket board. They are going through some hard times and I thought they had more important things to worry about instead of cricket.

But, I think they are expecting to generate some revenue so that it will have their current situation but I really don't know if people will want to watch the cricket matches right now because they have their own things to worry about. People will always give importance to their families first instead of entertainment or playing.

[Sithara007]

A great news has arrived! From 31st July to 21st August, the Lanka Premier League will take place for the third time. Due to the instability of their government, I thought the Sri Lankan Cricket Board was short of money. The initiative was taken because the Cricket board had money, so that's good. Slowly but surely, the Lanka Premier League is becoming more popular. In the lead up to the 2022 World Cup, the Lanka Premier League should be a successful event. This will help the Sri Lankan teams to succeed.

Don't know whether it is a good idea for these smaller boards to organize such glitzy franchise leagues. There is only limited room available in an already over-saturated market. We saw the example of South Africa, where the Msanzi Super League resulted in huge losses for the CSA. The CPL and PSL were successful because the boards managed to make these leagues popular outside the respective geographies. CPL is quite popular in South Asia and the United States, while PSL gained good popularity in the middle-east, and was supported by the large population size and economy of Pakistan. These advantages are not available for LPL.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Good news for Pakistan as there young rising fast bowler Muhammad Hasnain is cleared to bowl in international cricket by ICC. It will be interesting to see whether Hasnain can bowl the same way he was bowling with his original action or not.

" Pakistan quick's elbow extension has come down from the earlier flex of 17-24 degrees to 12-13 degrees " https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/pakistan-news-bowling-action-mohammad-hasnain-cleared-to-bowl-internationally-again-1318697

From what I have seen, very few of the fast bowlers have maintained their pace and seam movement once they have been rehabilitated. It would be a shame to lose Hasnain, because he is such a talented player. I seriously hope that he is able to maintain his skills even with a changed bowling action. That said, I don't expect him to be back in international cricket immediately. He first need to prove himself in the domestic circuit. And anyway, getting back in to the national team is not going to be easy. Too much competition there.

Right now Pakistan only has one quality fast bowler and he is Shaheen Shah rest of the pace bowlers don't have that quality. Yes Hasnain need to play domestic and should prove that he is good with his new action. I m sure PCB will also try him in domestic before sending him to international cricket.

[Sithara007]

Right now Pakistan only has one quality fast bowler and he is Shaheen Shah rest of the pace bowlers don't have that quality. Yes Hasnain need to play domestic and should prove that he is good with his new action. I m sure PCB will also try him in domestic before sending him to international cricket.

Shaheen Shah Afridi is a class apart from the rest. But pacers such as Haris Rauf and Hasan Ali are not far behind. And then there are promising youngsters such as Naseem Shah. For Muhammad Hasnain, his future will depend on how he is able to perform at the domestic circuit. Adjusting to the new bowling action is going to take a long time and therefore it is very important for him not to get disheartened. And at the same time, he needs plenty of support from the PCB, as well as from the senior players such as Shaheen.