Cricket match prediction discussions

[laurenB7742]

Right now Pakistan only has one quality fast bowler and he is Shaheen Shah rest of the pace bowlers don't have that quality. Yes Hasnain need to play domestic and should prove that he is good with his new action. I m sure PCB will also try him in domestic before sending him to international cricket.

Shaheen Shah Afridi is a class apart from the rest. But pacers such as Haris Rauf and Hasan Ali are not far behind. And then there are promising youngsters such as Naseem Shah. For Muhammad Hasnain, his future will depend on how he is able to perform at the domestic circuit. Adjusting to the new bowling action is going to take a long time and therefore it is very important for him not to get disheartened. And at the same time, he needs plenty of support from the PCB, as well as from the senior players such as Shaheen.

Pakistan has always produced really good fast bowlers. This is one department where Pakistan did not have any problems. At times it might look like the bowling lineup is not that good for Pakistan. But I think a lot of the bowlers are getting overshadowed by the likes of Shaheen Shah Afridi. He is obviously a great bowler but a lot of people often underestimate the other bowlers that Pakistan has in the squad.

I think the bowlers who are playing domestically, should be made aware that they need to have proper action so that they don't have to face any problems with their actions like Mohammed Hasnain.

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[Vaskiy]

A great news has arrived! From 31st July to 21st August, the Lanka Premier League will take place for the third time. Due to the instability of their government, I thought the Sri Lankan Cricket Board was short of money. The initiative was taken because the Cricket board had money, so that's good. Slowly but surely, the Lanka Premier League is becoming more popular. In the lead up to the 2022 World Cup, the Lanka Premier League should be a successful event. This will help the Sri Lankan teams to succeed.

Don't know whether it is a good idea for these smaller boards to organize such glitzy franchise leagues. There is only limited room available in an already over-saturated market. We saw the example of South Africa, where the Msanzi Super League resulted in huge losses for the CSA. The CPL and PSL were successful because the boards managed to make these leagues popular outside the respective geographies. CPL is quite popular in South Asia and the United States, while PSL gained good popularity in the middle-east, and was supported by the large population size and economy of Pakistan. These advantages are not available for LPL.

It looks like the Sri Lankan cricket board wants to continue the league without giving a break due to the ongoing economic crisis within the country. As said to popularise a league beyond the boundaries isn't an easy thing. For now foreign players involvement will increase the support from other cricketing nations. However this looks to be a real hard task to shine and make revenue as the IPL.

[Sithara007]

It looks like the Sri Lankan cricket board wants to continue the league without giving a break due to the ongoing economic crisis within the country. As said to popularise a league beyond the boundaries isn't an easy thing. For now foreign players involvement will increase the support from other cricketing nations. However this looks to be a real hard task to shine and make revenue as the IPL.

As you said, Sri Lanka is already reeling from an economic crisis. At this point, I don't know how practical it is for the SLCB to spend a few tens of millions of USD to organize a franchise league. Their previous attempts ended in huge losses. The trouble is in getting foreign audiences to watch the SLPL. If they want revenues from countries such as India, then they need to have big names such as Pollard and Warner participating in the league. But these players won't come cheap. A month-long contract can cost more than half a million USD.

[galambo]

Shaheen Shah Afridi is a class apart from the rest. But pacers such as Haris Rauf and Hasan Ali are not far behind. And then there are promising youngsters such as Naseem Shah. For Muhammad Hasnain, his future will depend on how he is able to perform at the domestic circuit. Adjusting to the new bowling action is going to take a long time and therefore it is very important for him not to get disheartened. And at the same time, he needs plenty of support from the PCB, as well as from the senior players such as Shaheen.

Hasnain is just 22 years old and has played few T20I and ODIs from Pakistan. He has lot of cricket left. First he should try to get settled with his new action and that's possible only if he plays too much domestic cricket. PCB is not good in proving support to players that are not in playing 11.

[Theones]

Pakistan has always produced really good fast bowlers. This is one department where Pakistan did not have any problems. At times it might look like the bowling lineup is not that good for Pakistan. But I think a lot of the bowlers are getting overshadowed by the likes of Shaheen Shah Afridi. He is obviously a great bowler but a lot of people often underestimate the other bowlers that Pakistan has in the squad.

I think the bowlers who are playing domestically, should be made aware that they need to have proper action so that they don't have to face any problems with their actions like Mohammed Hasnain.

sees like Pakistan is testing the players on already won series. Pakistani team is in great mood and strength.
The home ground is obviously an edge. And Pakistani team took great advantage of it.

[Tony116]

It looks like the Sri Lankan cricket board wants to continue the league without giving a break due to the ongoing economic crisis within the country. As said to popularise a league beyond the boundaries isn't an easy thing. For now foreign players involvement will increase the support from other cricketing nations. However this looks to be a real hard task to shine and make revenue as the IPL.

As you said, Sri Lanka is already reeling from an economic crisis. At this point, I don't know how practical it is for the SLCB to spend a few tens of millions of USD to organize a franchise league. Their previous attempts ended in huge losses. The trouble is in getting foreign audiences to watch the SLPL. If they want revenues from countries such as India, then they need to have big names such as Pollard and Warner participating in the league. But these players won't come cheap. A month-long contract can cost more than half a million USD.

I think Sri Lanka is trying to raise some money with the help of some organizations and asking for help through this cricket league but I don't know how practical this is going to be. People are not going to think about cricket when they simply don't have any food to eat. The country is already in a very bad economical situation and if this fails it is going to be a lot worse. And under this situation, I don't know even if they will be able to afford to have big names in the league because they will have to pay them a good amount of money.

[S A KHAIR]

Shaheen Shah Afridi is a class apart from the rest. But pacers such as Haris Rauf and Hasan Ali are not far behind. And then there are promising youngsters such as Naseem Shah. For Muhammad Hasnain, his future will depend on how he is able to perform at the domestic circuit. Adjusting to the new bowling action is going to take a long time and therefore it is very important for him not to get disheartened. And at the same time, he needs plenty of support from the PCB, as well as from the senior players such as Shaheen.

Hasnain is just 22 years old and has played few T20I and ODIs from Pakistan. He has lot of cricket left. First he should try to get settled with his new action and that's possible only if he plays too much domestic cricket. PCB is not good in proving support to players that are not in playing 11.

I think this player Pakistan cricket board should think seriously because he can be a great asset for the Pakistan cricket team. It is important that he gets used to his new action and also maintains the pace and accuracy..

[Sithara007]

I think Sri Lanka is trying to raise some money with the help of some organizations and asking for help through this cricket league but I don't know how practical this is going to be. People are not going to think about cricket when they simply don't have any food to eat. The country is already in a very bad economical situation and if this fails it is going to be a lot worse. And under this situation, I don't know even if they will be able to afford to have big names in the league because they will have to pay them a good amount of money.

Do we need a dozen different franchise leagues? Even countries such as UAE and Canada have tried to set up franchise leagues. It is going to be difficult, because there is only a limited pool of players available. Let's analyze various leagues that exists as of now:

1. IPL (India)
2. BBL (Australia)
3. 100 (England)
4. MSL (South Africa)
5. PSL (Pakistan)
6. BPL (Bangladesh)
7. LPL (Sri Lanka)
8. Everest Premier League (Nepal)
9. UAE T20 League (UAE)
10. T20 Blast (England)
11. Euro T20 Slam (Ireland/Scotland/Netherlands - cancelled)
12. Global T20 Canada
13. Major League Cricket (USA)
14. Hong Kong T20 Blitz
15. Abu Dhabi T20 Trophy

At the most, I believe that there exists market for 5-6 leagues. Apart from these, most of the other leagues are going to end up as loss making ventures.

[galambo]

I think Sri Lanka is trying to raise some money with the help of some organizations and asking for help through this cricket league but I don't know how practical this is going to be. People are not going to think about cricket when they simply don't have any food to eat. The country is already in a very bad economical situation and if this fails it is going to be a lot worse. And under this situation, I don't know even if they will be able to afford to have big names in the league because they will have to pay them a good amount of money.

Do we need a dozen different franchise leagues? Even countries such as UAE and Canada have tried to set up franchise leagues. It is going to be difficult, because there is only a limited pool of players available. Let's analyze various leagues that exists as of now:

1. IPL (India)
2. BBL (Australia)
3. 100 (England)

At the most, I believe that there exists market for 5-6 leagues. Apart from these, most of the other leagues are going to end up as loss making ventures.

Apart from IPL, rest are all very much same. In BBL, Australians players are not seen so you can easily see what's the level of BBL. In most leagues less IPL, players that are no more in national squad of countries are seen. These leagues are proving heaven for players that are not getting chance to play international cricket.

[Tony116]

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Do we need a dozen different franchise leagues? Even countries such as UAE and Canada have tried to set up franchise leagues. It is going to be difficult, because there is only a limited pool of players available. Let's analyze various leagues that exists as of now:

1. IPL (India)                                9. UAE T20 League (UAE)
2. BBL (Australia)                       10. T20 Blast (England)
3. 100 (England)                           11. Euro T20 Slam (Ireland/Scotland/Netherlands - cancelled)
4. MSL (South Africa)                 12. Global T20 Canada
5. PSL (Pakistan)                         13. Major League Cricket (USA)
6. BPL (Bangladesh)                    14. Hong Kong T20 Blitz
7. LPL (Sri Lanka)                         15. Abu Dhabi T20 Trophy
8. Everest Premier League (Nepal)

At the most, I believe that there exists market for 5-6 leagues. Apart from these, most of the other leagues are going to end up as loss making ventures.

I absolutely agree with this because there are just not enough players to play in so many different T20 leagues. If we think about how cricket will be able to survive and have a lot more popularity I think players from any country should be able to play in any T20 league.

Especially India should stop thinking of themselves as a premium product. And I honestly don't think we need this much cricket League all over the world. It will be really great if all the countries come together and do something together.

[BobK71]

I think Sri Lanka is trying to raise some money with the help of some organizations and asking for help through this cricket league but I don't know how practical this is going to be. People are not going to think about cricket when they simply don't have any food to eat. The country is already in a very bad economical situation and if this fails it is going to be a lot worse. And under this situation, I don't know even if they will be able to afford to have big names in the league because they will have to pay them a good amount of money.

Do we need a dozen different franchise leagues? Even countries such as UAE and Canada have tried to set up franchise leagues. It is going to be difficult, because there is only a limited pool of players available. Let's analyze various leagues that exists as of now:

1. IPL (India)
2. BBL (Australia)
3. 100 (England)
4. MSL (South Africa)
5. PSL (Pakistan)
6. BPL (Bangladesh)
7. LPL (Sri Lanka)
8. Everest Premier League (Nepal)
9. UAE T20 League (UAE)
10. T20 Blast (England)
11. Euro T20 Slam (Ireland/Scotland/Netherlands - cancelled)
12. Global T20 Canada
13. Major League Cricket (USA)
14. Hong Kong T20 Blitz
15. Abu Dhabi T20 Trophy

At the most, I believe that there exists market for 5-6 leagues. Apart from these, most of the other leagues are going to end up as loss making ventures.

Nowadays people want to see more advanced level games and sports. There are some cricket leagues are admired in the cricket world. There are other leagues that people do not have much desire for that. To make cricket better, Indian players should also play in different leagues and also they can make a great roll to spread the cricket. If cricket survives or get more popularity in the world then the value of players will be also increased. So on behalf of cricket, cricketers and various big cricket board should come forward.

[Sithara007]

Apart from IPL, rest are all very much same. In BBL, Australians players are not seen so you can easily see what's the level of BBL. In most leagues less IPL, players that are no more in national squad of countries are seen. These leagues are proving heaven for players that are not getting chance to play international cricket.

In case of BBL, it is quite understandable. Australia perhaps sends the largest foreign contingent to the IPL and this naturally means that at least some of their players don't have enough spare time left to participate in both the matches of the national team, and to represent the BBL franchises. And that is one of the reasons why players such as David Warner have refused to play in the BBL recently. But there are inherent issues with BBL as well. The salary level is too low, even when you compare it with other leagues such as the PSL and CPL.

[Juggy777]

Apart from IPL, rest are all very much same. In BBL, Australians players are not seen so you can easily see what's the level of BBL. In most leagues less IPL, players that are no more in national squad of countries are seen. These leagues are proving heaven for players that are not getting chance to play international cricket.

In case of BBL, it is quite understandable. Australia perhaps sends the largest foreign contingent to the IPL and this naturally means that at least some of their players don't have enough spare time left to participate in both the matches of the national team, and to represent the BBL franchises. And that is one of the reasons why players such as David Warner have refused to play in the BBL recently. But there are inherent issues with BBL as well. The salary level is too low, even when you compare it with other leagues such as the PSL and CPL.

@Sithara007 I used to watch BBL a lot, but since IPL started I have completely forgotten about it and I don’t think we even discuss it here. Furthermore while other countries can try to replicate IPL they won’t succeed because they don’t have a huge audience like the Indians, high salaries as you mentioned and lastly no special ICC window will be made available for their tournament.

[laurenB7742]

Apart from IPL, rest are all very much same. In BBL, Australians players are not seen so you can easily see what's the level of BBL. In most leagues less IPL, players that are no more in national squad of countries are seen. These leagues are proving heaven for players that are not getting chance to play international cricket.

In case of BBL, it is quite understandable. Australia perhaps sends the largest foreign contingent to the IPL and this naturally means that at least some of their players don't have enough spare time left to participate in both the matches of the national team, and to represent the BBL franchises. And that is one of the reasons why players such as David Warner have refused to play in the BBL recently. But there are inherent issues with BBL as well. The salary level is too low, even when you compare it with other leagues such as the PSL and CPL.

@Sithara007 I used to watch BBL a lot, but since IPL started I have completely forgotten about it and I don’t think we even discuss it here. Furthermore while other countries can try to replicate IPL they won’t succeed because they don’t have a huge audience like the Indians, high salaries as you mentioned and lastly no special ICC window will be made available for their tournament.

I absolutely agree that no other t20 league is going to be as successful as the IPL because no other country has the audience like that India has and I don't think in any other country people are as obsessed with cricket as India.

But, I also don't think that it is not going to succeed at all, there will be a good amount of revenue being generated but I don't think it is going to be as good as the IPL.

[Sithara007]

@Sithara007 I used to watch BBL a lot, but since IPL started I have completely forgotten about it and I don’t think we even discuss it here. Furthermore while other countries can try to replicate IPL they won’t succeed because they don’t have a huge audience like the Indians, high salaries as you mentioned and lastly no special ICC window will be made available for their tournament.

A few years ago, BBL used to be popular in India as well, but in recent times the TV viewership seems to have taken a hit. Most of the foreign players, and many of the Australian national team members avoid BBL because of the unreasonably low salary cap. BBL is relatively longer when compared to other leagues such as the PSL and the BPL and there is no logic for players to participate in this league will earning a lower salary. If they want to attract global audience, then they need to involve the star players such as Babar, Pollard and de Kock. But that is not possible with the current salary cap.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

A few years ago, BBL used to be popular in India as well, but in recent times the TV viewership seems to have taken a hit. Most of the foreign players, and many of the Australian national team members avoid BBL because of the unreasonably low salary cap. BBL is relatively longer when compared to other leagues such as the PSL and the BPL and there is no logic for players to participate in this league will earning a lower salary. If they want to attract global audience, then they need to involve the star players such as Babar, Pollard and de Kock. But that is not possible with the current salary cap.

If Australian own players are not playing BBL because of low salaries then overseas star players won't come to play this league. Attitude of Aussie players with overseas players is also another reason why big players are not interested in joining BBL. Remember how Shane Warne behave with WIndies player in BBL.

[laurenB7742]

A few years ago, BBL used to be popular in India as well, but in recent times the TV viewership seems to have taken a hit. Most of the foreign players, and many of the Australian national team members avoid BBL because of the unreasonably low salary cap. BBL is relatively longer when compared to other leagues such as the PSL and the BPL and there is no logic for players to participate in this league will earning a lower salary. If they want to attract global audience, then they need to involve the star players such as Babar, Pollard and de Kock. But that is not possible with the current salary cap.

If Australian own players are not playing BBL because of low salaries then overseas star players won't come to play this league. Attitude of Aussie players with overseas players is also another reason why big players are not interested in joining BBL. Remember how Shane Warne behave with WIndies player in BBL.

This is something that we never see in the IPL. We generally see the Indian players and also the players from overseas fighting to play in the IPL. If players are not interested in BBL, that is not going to be good for BBL at all. I think they earn a really good amount of money and they can afford to give the players a little more salary. And salary is the only thing which can attract great overseas players. They have to increase the salary and that is going to result in better players being attracted to BBL and eventually, they will generate better revenue.

[JSRAW]

This is something that we never see in the IPL. We generally see the Indian players and also the players from overseas fighting to play in the IPL. If players are not interested in BBL, that is not going to be good for BBL at all. I think they earn a really good amount of money and they can afford to give the players a little more salary. And salary is the only thing which can attract great overseas players. They have to increase the salary and that is going to result in better players being attracted to BBL and eventually, they will generate better revenue.

Recently heard that CA are thinking of introducing draft system for foreign players in BBL, some foreign players might find this set up more interesting.  

IMO the main negative point for BBL is that their schedule is always clash with their own national team's fixtures. I find it weird that on one hand they play high profile series around nov-dec-jan (boxing day test etc) and also organise BBL.

[lixer]

A few years ago, BBL used to be popular in India as well, but in recent times the TV viewership seems to have taken a hit. Most of the foreign players, and many of the Australian national team members avoid BBL because of the unreasonably low salary cap. BBL is relatively longer when compared to other leagues such as the PSL and the BPL and there is no logic for players to participate in this league will earning a lower salary. If they want to attract global audience, then they need to involve the star players such as Babar, Pollard and de Kock. But that is not possible with the current salary cap.

If Australian own players are not playing BBL because of low salaries then overseas star players won't come to play this league. Attitude of Aussie players with overseas players is also another reason why big players are not interested in joining BBL. Remember how Shane Warne behave with WIndies player in BBL.

There is nothing new in this we have a history that most Australian players did not like to play their domestic cricket and they prefer English domestic and now IPL because of salaries which are very low for them and for BBL their time and system is not good for many players around the globe so mostly they have players for some matches and then they prefer other leagues or their national duties. Agree with this statement as well their behavior with other players is also not acceptable mostly they are rude and their body language is also never been good which is another reason most foreign players did not like to play here.

Even the Australian cricket system is one of the best in the world and they are producing too many great players but now it is time for them to do something good in this way also because this is also very important in this game of gentlemen.

[laurenB7742]

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Recently heard that CA are thinking of introducing draft system for foreign players in BBL, some foreign players might find this set up more interesting.  

IMO the main negative point for BBL is that their schedule is always clash with their own national team's fixtures. I find it weird that on one hand they play high profile series around nov-dec-jan (boxing day test etc) and also organise BBL.

They should change the fixtures so that they don't have any problems. And the drafting is going to attract more players in my opinion. But they will surely have to increase the salary of the players.

There is nothing new in this we have a history that most Australian players did not like to play their domestic cricket and they prefer English domestic and now IPL because of salaries which are very low for them and for BBL their time and system is not good for many players around the globe so mostly they have players for some matches and then they prefer other leagues or their national duties. Agree with this statement as well their behavior with other players is also not acceptable mostly they are rude and their body language is also never been good which is another reason most foreign players did not like to play here.

Even the Australian cricket system is one of the best in the world and they are producing too many great players but now it is time for them to do something good in this way also because this is also very important in this game of gentlemen.

If the players from overseas are not feeling welcome it will be a big problem for BBL. Because in BBL they will have to play alongside the foreign players. In international cricket, the hostile situation between both teams creates more interest but in League cricket that is not the case and it is absolutely different.