Cricket match prediction discussions

[Tony116]

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Do we need a dozen different franchise leagues? Even countries such as UAE and Canada have tried to set up franchise leagues. It is going to be difficult, because there is only a limited pool of players available. Let's analyze various leagues that exists as of now:

1. IPL (India)                                9. UAE T20 League (UAE)
2. BBL (Australia)                       10. T20 Blast (England)
3. 100 (England)                           11. Euro T20 Slam (Ireland/Scotland/Netherlands - cancelled)
4. MSL (South Africa)                 12. Global T20 Canada
5. PSL (Pakistan)                         13. Major League Cricket (USA)
6. BPL (Bangladesh)                    14. Hong Kong T20 Blitz
7. LPL (Sri Lanka)                         15. Abu Dhabi T20 Trophy
8. Everest Premier League (Nepal)

At the most, I believe that there exists market for 5-6 leagues. Apart from these, most of the other leagues are going to end up as loss making ventures.

I absolutely agree with this because there are just not enough players to play in so many different T20 leagues. If we think about how cricket will be able to survive and have a lot more popularity I think players from any country should be able to play in any T20 league.

Especially India should stop thinking of themselves as a premium product. And I honestly don't think we need this much cricket League all over the world. It will be really great if all the countries come together and do something together.

[BobK71]

I think Sri Lanka is trying to raise some money with the help of some organizations and asking for help through this cricket league but I don't know how practical this is going to be. People are not going to think about cricket when they simply don't have any food to eat. The country is already in a very bad economical situation and if this fails it is going to be a lot worse. And under this situation, I don't know even if they will be able to afford to have big names in the league because they will have to pay them a good amount of money.

Do we need a dozen different franchise leagues? Even countries such as UAE and Canada have tried to set up franchise leagues. It is going to be difficult, because there is only a limited pool of players available. Let's analyze various leagues that exists as of now:

1. IPL (India)
2. BBL (Australia)
3. 100 (England)
4. MSL (South Africa)
5. PSL (Pakistan)
6. BPL (Bangladesh)
7. LPL (Sri Lanka)
8. Everest Premier League (Nepal)
9. UAE T20 League (UAE)
10. T20 Blast (England)
11. Euro T20 Slam (Ireland/Scotland/Netherlands - cancelled)
12. Global T20 Canada
13. Major League Cricket (USA)
14. Hong Kong T20 Blitz
15. Abu Dhabi T20 Trophy

At the most, I believe that there exists market for 5-6 leagues. Apart from these, most of the other leagues are going to end up as loss making ventures.

Nowadays people want to see more advanced level games and sports. There are some cricket leagues are admired in the cricket world. There are other leagues that people do not have much desire for that. To make cricket better, Indian players should also play in different leagues and also they can make a great roll to spread the cricket. If cricket survives or get more popularity in the world then the value of players will be also increased. So on behalf of cricket, cricketers and various big cricket board should come forward.

[Sithara007]

Apart from IPL, rest are all very much same. In BBL, Australians players are not seen so you can easily see what's the level of BBL. In most leagues less IPL, players that are no more in national squad of countries are seen. These leagues are proving heaven for players that are not getting chance to play international cricket.

In case of BBL, it is quite understandable. Australia perhaps sends the largest foreign contingent to the IPL and this naturally means that at least some of their players don't have enough spare time left to participate in both the matches of the national team, and to represent the BBL franchises. And that is one of the reasons why players such as David Warner have refused to play in the BBL recently. But there are inherent issues with BBL as well. The salary level is too low, even when you compare it with other leagues such as the PSL and CPL.

[Juggy777]

Apart from IPL, rest are all very much same. In BBL, Australians players are not seen so you can easily see what's the level of BBL. In most leagues less IPL, players that are no more in national squad of countries are seen. These leagues are proving heaven for players that are not getting chance to play international cricket.

In case of BBL, it is quite understandable. Australia perhaps sends the largest foreign contingent to the IPL and this naturally means that at least some of their players don't have enough spare time left to participate in both the matches of the national team, and to represent the BBL franchises. And that is one of the reasons why players such as David Warner have refused to play in the BBL recently. But there are inherent issues with BBL as well. The salary level is too low, even when you compare it with other leagues such as the PSL and CPL.

@Sithara007 I used to watch BBL a lot, but since IPL started I have completely forgotten about it and I don’t think we even discuss it here. Furthermore while other countries can try to replicate IPL they won’t succeed because they don’t have a huge audience like the Indians, high salaries as you mentioned and lastly no special ICC window will be made available for their tournament.

[laurenB7742]

Apart from IPL, rest are all very much same. In BBL, Australians players are not seen so you can easily see what's the level of BBL. In most leagues less IPL, players that are no more in national squad of countries are seen. These leagues are proving heaven for players that are not getting chance to play international cricket.

In case of BBL, it is quite understandable. Australia perhaps sends the largest foreign contingent to the IPL and this naturally means that at least some of their players don't have enough spare time left to participate in both the matches of the national team, and to represent the BBL franchises. And that is one of the reasons why players such as David Warner have refused to play in the BBL recently. But there are inherent issues with BBL as well. The salary level is too low, even when you compare it with other leagues such as the PSL and CPL.

@Sithara007 I used to watch BBL a lot, but since IPL started I have completely forgotten about it and I don’t think we even discuss it here. Furthermore while other countries can try to replicate IPL they won’t succeed because they don’t have a huge audience like the Indians, high salaries as you mentioned and lastly no special ICC window will be made available for their tournament.

I absolutely agree that no other t20 league is going to be as successful as the IPL because no other country has the audience like that India has and I don't think in any other country people are as obsessed with cricket as India.

But, I also don't think that it is not going to succeed at all, there will be a good amount of revenue being generated but I don't think it is going to be as good as the IPL.

[Sithara007]

@Sithara007 I used to watch BBL a lot, but since IPL started I have completely forgotten about it and I don’t think we even discuss it here. Furthermore while other countries can try to replicate IPL they won’t succeed because they don’t have a huge audience like the Indians, high salaries as you mentioned and lastly no special ICC window will be made available for their tournament.

A few years ago, BBL used to be popular in India as well, but in recent times the TV viewership seems to have taken a hit. Most of the foreign players, and many of the Australian national team members avoid BBL because of the unreasonably low salary cap. BBL is relatively longer when compared to other leagues such as the PSL and the BPL and there is no logic for players to participate in this league will earning a lower salary. If they want to attract global audience, then they need to involve the star players such as Babar, Pollard and de Kock. But that is not possible with the current salary cap.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

A few years ago, BBL used to be popular in India as well, but in recent times the TV viewership seems to have taken a hit. Most of the foreign players, and many of the Australian national team members avoid BBL because of the unreasonably low salary cap. BBL is relatively longer when compared to other leagues such as the PSL and the BPL and there is no logic for players to participate in this league will earning a lower salary. If they want to attract global audience, then they need to involve the star players such as Babar, Pollard and de Kock. But that is not possible with the current salary cap.

If Australian own players are not playing BBL because of low salaries then overseas star players won't come to play this league. Attitude of Aussie players with overseas players is also another reason why big players are not interested in joining BBL. Remember how Shane Warne behave with WIndies player in BBL.

[laurenB7742]

A few years ago, BBL used to be popular in India as well, but in recent times the TV viewership seems to have taken a hit. Most of the foreign players, and many of the Australian national team members avoid BBL because of the unreasonably low salary cap. BBL is relatively longer when compared to other leagues such as the PSL and the BPL and there is no logic for players to participate in this league will earning a lower salary. If they want to attract global audience, then they need to involve the star players such as Babar, Pollard and de Kock. But that is not possible with the current salary cap.

If Australian own players are not playing BBL because of low salaries then overseas star players won't come to play this league. Attitude of Aussie players with overseas players is also another reason why big players are not interested in joining BBL. Remember how Shane Warne behave with WIndies player in BBL.

This is something that we never see in the IPL. We generally see the Indian players and also the players from overseas fighting to play in the IPL. If players are not interested in BBL, that is not going to be good for BBL at all. I think they earn a really good amount of money and they can afford to give the players a little more salary. And salary is the only thing which can attract great overseas players. They have to increase the salary and that is going to result in better players being attracted to BBL and eventually, they will generate better revenue.

[JSRAW]

This is something that we never see in the IPL. We generally see the Indian players and also the players from overseas fighting to play in the IPL. If players are not interested in BBL, that is not going to be good for BBL at all. I think they earn a really good amount of money and they can afford to give the players a little more salary. And salary is the only thing which can attract great overseas players. They have to increase the salary and that is going to result in better players being attracted to BBL and eventually, they will generate better revenue.

Recently heard that CA are thinking of introducing draft system for foreign players in BBL, some foreign players might find this set up more interesting.  

IMO the main negative point for BBL is that their schedule is always clash with their own national team's fixtures. I find it weird that on one hand they play high profile series around nov-dec-jan (boxing day test etc) and also organise BBL.

[lixer]

A few years ago, BBL used to be popular in India as well, but in recent times the TV viewership seems to have taken a hit. Most of the foreign players, and many of the Australian national team members avoid BBL because of the unreasonably low salary cap. BBL is relatively longer when compared to other leagues such as the PSL and the BPL and there is no logic for players to participate in this league will earning a lower salary. If they want to attract global audience, then they need to involve the star players such as Babar, Pollard and de Kock. But that is not possible with the current salary cap.

If Australian own players are not playing BBL because of low salaries then overseas star players won't come to play this league. Attitude of Aussie players with overseas players is also another reason why big players are not interested in joining BBL. Remember how Shane Warne behave with WIndies player in BBL.

There is nothing new in this we have a history that most Australian players did not like to play their domestic cricket and they prefer English domestic and now IPL because of salaries which are very low for them and for BBL their time and system is not good for many players around the globe so mostly they have players for some matches and then they prefer other leagues or their national duties. Agree with this statement as well their behavior with other players is also not acceptable mostly they are rude and their body language is also never been good which is another reason most foreign players did not like to play here.

Even the Australian cricket system is one of the best in the world and they are producing too many great players but now it is time for them to do something good in this way also because this is also very important in this game of gentlemen.

[laurenB7742]

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Recently heard that CA are thinking of introducing draft system for foreign players in BBL, some foreign players might find this set up more interesting.  

IMO the main negative point for BBL is that their schedule is always clash with their own national team's fixtures. I find it weird that on one hand they play high profile series around nov-dec-jan (boxing day test etc) and also organise BBL.

They should change the fixtures so that they don't have any problems. And the drafting is going to attract more players in my opinion. But they will surely have to increase the salary of the players.

There is nothing new in this we have a history that most Australian players did not like to play their domestic cricket and they prefer English domestic and now IPL because of salaries which are very low for them and for BBL their time and system is not good for many players around the globe so mostly they have players for some matches and then they prefer other leagues or their national duties. Agree with this statement as well their behavior with other players is also not acceptable mostly they are rude and their body language is also never been good which is another reason most foreign players did not like to play here.

Even the Australian cricket system is one of the best in the world and they are producing too many great players but now it is time for them to do something good in this way also because this is also very important in this game of gentlemen.

If the players from overseas are not feeling welcome it will be a big problem for BBL. Because in BBL they will have to play alongside the foreign players. In international cricket, the hostile situation between both teams creates more interest but in League cricket that is not the case and it is absolutely different.

[Sithara007]

Recently heard that CA are thinking of introducing draft system for foreign players in BBL, some foreign players might find this set up more interesting.  

IMO the main negative point for BBL is that their schedule is always clash with their own national team's fixtures. I find it weird that on one hand they play high profile series around nov-dec-jan (boxing day test etc) and also organise BBL.

The Australian cricket calendar was like that even before the introduction of the BBL. The test matches being played during Christmas-New Year vacations are a major revenue earner for Cricket Australia. However, this is problematic for those players, who participate in more than one format. And in terms of revenue, it works well for CA, because the test matches are played during the daytime and the BBL matches are mostly played during the evening. They are trying to maximize the revenue during peak season. Also, one argument is that there is not much overlap between the viewership for test and T20.

[Theones]

I think Sri Lanka is trying to raise some money with the help of some organizations and asking for help through this cricket league but I don't know how practical this is going to be. People are not going to think about cricket when they simply don't have any food to eat. The country is already in a very bad economical situation and if this fails it is going to be a lot worse. And under this situation, I don't know even if they will be able to afford to have big names in the league because they will have to pay them a good amount of money.

Do we need a dozen different franchise leagues? Even countries such as UAE and Canada have tried to set up franchise leagues. It is going to be difficult, because there is only a limited pool of players available. Let's analyze various leagues that exists as of now:

1. IPL (India)
2. BBL (Australia)
3. 100 (England)
4. MSL (South Africa)
5. PSL (Pakistan)
6. BPL (Bangladesh)
7. LPL (Sri Lanka)
8. Everest Premier League (Nepal)
9. UAE T20 League (UAE)
10. T20 Blast (England)
11. Euro T20 Slam (Ireland/Scotland/Netherlands - cancelled)
12. Global T20 Canada
13. Major League Cricket (USA)
14. Hong Kong T20 Blitz
15. Abu Dhabi T20 Trophy

At the most, I believe that there exists market for 5-6 leagues. Apart from these, most of the other leagues are going to end up as loss making ventures.

The countries like USA and Canada and Abu Dhabi are mostly in other sports. If they try to make their teams. They have ample resources that they can bring some good teams forth - but than again - the other leagues are in competition who have been playing since ever. A good analysis though!

[savetheFORUM]

The countries like USA and Canada and Abu Dhabi are mostly in other sports. If they try to make their teams. They have ample resources that they can bring some good teams forth - but than again - the other leagues are in competition who have been playing since ever. A good analysis though!

I am feeling happy with this growing number of leagues because it's much needed if we want to spread this game and these can help even from this list many will disappear due to different reasons but still it's good and much needed.

If after a few years we have only a few leagues left on this list then still good because we all know about European soccer all countries have their leagues and enjoy good due to their domestic market so this is also helpful for this game but they need to settle things in the better financial way with sit on the table and talk about this all for all stakeholders.

With the coming of the USA and Canada, this is surely going to be very helpful as these are big countries and have a very good market for games UAE is also giving good help for this game in the middle east market but may be few leagues will fall due to reasons in few countries.

[Iranus]

Recently heard that CA are thinking of introducing draft system for foreign players in BBL, some foreign players might find this set up more interesting.  

IMO the main negative point for BBL is that their schedule is always clash with their own national team's fixtures. I find it weird that on one hand they play high profile series around nov-dec-jan (boxing day test etc) and also organise BBL.

The Australian cricket calendar was like that even before the introduction of the BBL. The test matches being played during Christmas-New Year vacations are a major revenue earner for Cricket Australia. However, this is problematic for those players, who participate in more than one format. And in terms of revenue, it works well for CA, because the test matches are played during the daytime and the BBL matches are mostly played during the evening. They are trying to maximize the revenue during peak season. Also, one argument is that there is not much overlap between the viewership for test and T20.

But, in search of revenue, the board itself is putting a lot of pressure on the players of Australia. Revenue is obviously going to be better because of this but really it is going to be bad for cricket.

You cannot expect a test player to play test cricket in the daytime and play t20 at night time on the same day. I am not saying that it is impossible but that is obviously not the optimal way to play for a player. They also have to really increase the salary of players in the BBL. Otherwise, it is going to lose a lot of popularity because great players are not going to be attracted. They should always first think about their players rather than the revenue.

[Sithara007]

The countries like USA and Canada and Abu Dhabi are mostly in other sports. If they try to make their teams. They have ample resources that they can bring some good teams forth - but than again - the other leagues are in competition who have been playing since ever. A good analysis though!

The case with Emirates such as Sharjah, Abu Dhabi and Dubai is different from what we have in countries such as Canada and the United States. In the UAE, the ruling class splurge a lot of money in cricket and the huge expat population also supports the activity. But in countries such as the United States, the government agencies are not very enthusiastic about cricket, and the main reason is that cricket is not an Olympic sport. In UAE, they don't care much about revenues and profits, but those in North America don't have that luxury.

[dezoel]

The Australian cricket calendar was like that even before the introduction of the BBL. The test matches being played during Christmas-New Year vacations are a major revenue earner for Cricket Australia. However, this is problematic for those players, who participate in more than one format. And in terms of revenue, it works well for CA, because the test matches are played during the daytime and the BBL matches are mostly played during the evening. They are trying to maximize the revenue during peak season. Also, one argument is that there is not much overlap between the viewership for test and T20.

But, in search of revenue, the board itself is putting a lot of pressure on the players of Australia. Revenue is obviously going to be better because of this but really it is going to be bad for cricket.

You cannot expect a test player to play test cricket in the daytime and play t20 at night time on the same day. I am not saying that it is impossible but that is obviously not the optimal way to play for a player. They also have to really increase the salary of players in the BBL. Otherwise, it is going to lose a lot of popularity because great players are not going to be attracted. They should always first think about their players rather than the revenue.

A good review about Australian cricket and BBL but here we have one more issue this time Australians have no luxury of time like we have in the Sub-Continent so they have to settle this between their International tours so this is also a big issue for them and case they have no local Australian players secondly they are never been good in paying their salaries disputes has a long history so just this is another case mostly local players don't like to play this BBL.

I am watching Australian cricket for a long time and now they have never been good to pay and their many players leave just because of this and try to settle in England for better finances in cricket even right now mostly love to play IPL as they have very handsome income from this franchise.

But now good things happening many countries are offering franchise cricket which is helping these players for having good salaries even it is not possible for the player they can join them as bowling, batting and fielding coaches which is also have a good salary.

[Theones]

The case with Emirates such as Sharjah, Abu Dhabi and Dubai is different from what we have in countries such as Canada and the United States. In the UAE, the ruling class splurge a lot of money in cricket and the huge expat population also supports the activity. But in countries such as the United States, the government agencies are not very enthusiastic about cricket, and the main reason is that cricket is not an Olympic sport. In UAE, they don't care much about revenues and profits, but those in North America don't have that luxury.

Cricket seems to be a game of 3rd world countries - where young boys play it in streets and on road. In my country - a part from players there are two other boys who have to pick up wickets when the vehicle arrives and quickly puts it back to start the match again. Even then they grow up to become Imran Khan and Waseem Akram. What a life we live!

[Iranus]

A good review about Australian cricket and BBL but here we have one more issue this time Australians have no luxury of time like we have in the Sub-Continent so they have to settle this between their International tours so this is also a big issue for them and case they have no local Australian players secondly they are never been good in paying their salaries disputes has a long history so just this is another case mostly local players don't like to play this BBL.

I am watching Australian cricket for a long time and now they have never been good to pay and their many players leave just because of this and try to settle in England for better finances in cricket even right now mostly love to play IPL as they have very handsome income from this franchise.

But now good things happening many countries are offering franchise cricket which is helping these players for having good salaries even it is not possible for the player they can join them as bowling, batting and fielding coaches which is also have a good salary.

Even though some good things are happening for the cricket players around the world I think Australia should start validating their own players a little more. I don't know why they will not give players a good enough salary. The players are getting a lot of money from IPL and also other franchise cricket and that's why I think they are not saying anything. If they did not have that luxury I think there could have been some problems regarding this situation.

[Smack That Ace]

The case with Emirates such as Sharjah, Abu Dhabi and Dubai is different from what we have in countries such as Canada and the United States. In the UAE, the ruling class splurge a lot of money in cricket and the huge expat population also supports the activity. But in countries such as the United States, the government agencies are not very enthusiastic about cricket, and the main reason is that cricket is not an Olympic sport. In UAE, they don't care much about revenues and profits, but those in North America don't have that luxury.

Cricket seems to be a game of 3rd world countries - where young boys play it in streets and on road. In my country - a part from players there are two other boys who have to pick up wickets when the vehicle arrives and quickly puts it back to start the match again. Even then they grow up to become Imran Khan and Waseem Akram. What a life we live!

But cricket should not be a sport only for third-world countries. Cricket is known to be A gentleman's game and I think that is where I don't agree.

Cricket should be a game for all. But instead, there are a lot of discrimination and racial things going on. A lot of kids love to play cricket and they will also really love to be professional cricket players but it can always happen that they don't have the backup. Cricket is regularly played in only a few countries and for a lot of countries and even in those countries which play cricket regularly a lot of people cannot take cricket as their main profession.


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Duke