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April 11, 2012, 12:35:21 PM |
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Mufa, if you'll look back a few posts, PPS was being overpaid, so you were getting more for PPS than you were suppose to. I am trying to work through that bug right now.
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Tomatocage
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brb keeping up with the Kardashians
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April 11, 2012, 04:49:29 PM |
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Can anybody tell me how many blocks have to be mined before a new miner starts realizing the full PPS value? From reading the last couple pages I've gathered that it ramps up from the time you first start, but much beyond that I'm lost. Thanks in advance!
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Inaba (OP)
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April 11, 2012, 05:41:44 PM |
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Roughly 7 blocks, but that can vary slightly depending on luck.
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April 12, 2012, 08:19:40 PM |
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these long rounds are starting to promote the PPS
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Inaba (OP)
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April 13, 2012, 12:12:08 AM |
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Yeah and they are costing me, too! Hah... jeez. I think the bug is still there, so PPS people are getting overpaid on top of that. I can't, for the life of me, figure out how it's even possible given the code. Makes it hard to debug when we have long blocks, though.. grrr
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April 13, 2012, 10:13:08 PM
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Hi Inaba!
I'm mining at EMC since Dec. 11 and I'm really happy with the pool and everything. Someone was aksing me, why I'm mining at EMC, when then payout since weeks is worse then at deepbit for example. Is there any reason, why I could make more BTC except "Luck" or "NO Luck". I mean something technical like "more GHash in the Pool" or "more people mining in the pool"? He also claims, that if every miner would mine in ONLY ONE pool, everyone would earn more BTC?!? I was wondering about that question and we are discussing and calculating since days now. Perhaps you got an idea, what he means? THX in advance.
Btw.: I know you are working on that PPS thing ... but when do you think you are able to bring a good stats page?
Greetz
NetworkerZ
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April 14, 2012, 12:17:16 AM |
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Took a look at the hall of fame page and was surprised to see such a high average shares per block for so many of the miners choosing to stay private while so many miners that are not private seemed to have much lower average shares per block. Did not take the time to average the averages between private and not private or the number of the top25 listed private and not private, but seems odd.
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Inaba (OP)
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April 14, 2012, 03:39:05 AM |
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NetworkerZ: I'm not really sure if I understand your question with regards to the payout being worse than at Deepbit? There's no fee on EMC, so your payout is going to be at least 3% greater, but more likely a bit more, since you aren't losing out to pool hoppers, either.
As far as the claim of every miner mining in only one pool, everyone earning more BTC, that is just plain false. Mining is zero sum - collectively, no one makes more or less than ~50 BTC every 6 minutes... it's impossible from a network standpoint.
As far as the PPS thing goes, I will try to get to it - what stats page for PPS do you want to see, though, beyond what's already available?
Stoppots: It's not really surprising, the largest hashrate miners prefer to be private for whatever reason. I'm not sure I understand the desire to keep your user name private, but it's a feature people want. But in either case, there's 8 privates in the top 25, or approximately 33%. Three of the top 10 are private, again around 30% - that doesn't seem all out of whack at all.
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April 14, 2012, 12:23:08 PM
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1 Inaba 59431448 / 42 = 1,415,034
2 Private 52664637 / 23 = 2,289,766
3 Private 48347524 / 22 = 2,197,614
4 ocminer 41197840 / 26 = 1,584,532
5 Private 32048612 / 21 = 1,526,124
6 jjiimm_64 25815926 / 20 = 1,290,796
7 exahash 22412684 / 18 = 1,245,149
8 sgravina 21033386 / 7 = 3,004,769
9 wowe 19524184 / 6 = 3,254,030
10 Private 18688279 / 12 = 1,557,356
11 sveetsnelda 18638297 / 13 = 1,433,715
12 Private 18402599 / 3 = 6,134,199
13 coran007 15655886 / 9 = 1,739,542
14 gfaust 15395224 / 8 = 1,924,403
15 Private 15218092 / 10 = 1,521,809
16 RPM 14084727 / 14 = 1,006,051
17 Private 13057093 / 11 = 1,187,008
18 CigarPuller3 12302956 / 7 = 1,757,565
19 Dissi 11536161 / 6 = 1,922,693
20 cobracom 10788258 / 10 = 1,078,825
21 catfish 10502848 / 10 = 1,050,284
22 BillHicks 10283152 / 19 = 541,218
23 cuz72 10230630 / 2 = 5,115,315
24 jjshabadoo2 9838017 / 10 = 983,801
25 Private 9638341 / 1 = 9,638,341 Just one pool of many so extremely small sample and its safe to assume miners have mined elsewhere at times so total shares are not exact. Sure difficulty makes up for some especially any that have been mining since the early days. Surprised meni hasn't been by yet, he's usually johnny on the spot with math. Dam look at BillHicks he must of sold his soul to get luck like that. Bill show us pictures of wat you going on over there. Miner and settings??? Wat ever your doing don't change a thing. Seal that room off and hope the power never goes out. |
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Inaba (OP)
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April 14, 2012, 12:30:47 PM |
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Most everyone, with a few outliers, look to be on target with number of shares submitted within a reasonable margin of error and luck. Looking out our luck over the past 50 blocks, we are also right on target... seems like we are high, but unfortunately the math doesn't lie.  |
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April 14, 2012, 12:41:00 PM |
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Guess really thats the answer then. Those that are running good and finding blocks are proud and don't mind being known. Those who are not proud decide to stay private.
#25 Private 9638341 / 1 = 9,638,341 If I was this guy here I would be keeping my shit private to.
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April 15, 2012, 01:36:21 AM |
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Guess really thats the answer then. Those that are running good and finding blocks are proud and don't mind being known. Those who are not proud decide to stay private.
#25 Private 9638341 / 1 = 9,638,341 If I was this guy here I would be keeping my shit private to.
Of course, since it is all completely random, making any sort of judgement of individual miners based on those numbers is a complete misunderstanding of the mathematics of Bitcoin (i.e. your comments about Private and about BillHicks) For March I got 3 blocks - (not here) - with my 1.46GH/s ... However, that seriously means almost nothing about the quality of my rig or the software or hardware I use. (What it does mean is that my rig works and nothing more) |
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April 16, 2012, 12:42:35 PM |
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Looks like the PPS bug has finally been eradicated (thanks to a clue from Meni!) ...
So... what more do I need to add to PPS for people to be comfortable with it? I think I am going to add the ability to also switch your miners to PPS from DGM on your account. I need to work out the details though, so I'm not promising this 100%.
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April 18, 2012, 11:31:47 AM |
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hello, is there anything i can do on my side to improve my reject rate to this pool? i like many of the features and i am strongly considering throwing 1/2 of my hashes to it but i am getting literally 10x the reject % as compared to my incumbent pool. i thought it was a fluke until i took a 4 gpu miner and pointed 2 toward emc and 2 to the other and got 1.2% here with .12% to the other. then i flipped the gpu -> pool for each with the same results. if it matters i currently have 6 miners running a mix of BAMT (phoenix) , Win7 (cgminer), and Xubuntu (cgminer) that are 2-5 gpus each, with each gpu being 200-375 Mh/s and i am in the northeast US. thanks.
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April 18, 2012, 12:39:19 PM |
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Hiho!
Just found 2 Blocks in a row with only 3,6 ghash :-)
Btw. Thema Account at emc Shows 5 solved blocks instead of 6, perhaps a Bug?
Greetz
Networkerz
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April 18, 2012, 01:55:44 PM |
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What is your incumbent pool? Some pools fudge stale numbers to look better... I we report your actual stale rate, without tricks or magic number massaging.
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April 18, 2012, 02:21:20 PM |
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What is your incumbent pool? Some pools fudge stale numbers to look better... I we report your actual stale rate, without tricks or magic number massaging.
ozcoin. my miner's stats pretty closely match their site's stats. the comparison is off my local miner's stats as i haven't found them on your site for my account/workers to compare. i am a semi-noob so i may be misinterpreting some of this data but going off local reporting of invalid share % i seem to struggle with your pool as compared to others - especially ozcoin. |
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April 18, 2012, 02:38:38 PM |
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Which emc server are you connecting to?
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April 18, 2012, 02:49:36 PM |
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Which emc server are you connecting to?
us2.eclipsemc.com:8337 - which resolves to 208.110.68.115 for me right now (in case you have some type of load balancing). network connectivity seems very good from me -> you with minimal hops, no drops, and good latency. |
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April 18, 2012, 05:00:00 PM |
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Which emc server are you connecting to?
us2.eclipsemc.com:8337 - which resolves to 208.110.68.115 for me right now (in case you have some type of load balancing). network connectivity seems very good from me -> you with minimal hops, no drops, and good latency. here are my local 'invalid' stats for the gpu's going to you over the last ~12 hours. 248.06 Mh/s 2926 / 36 1.22% 258.63 Mh/s 3099 / 33 1.05% 248.11 Mh/s 2946 / 32 1.07% 258.75 Mh/s 3081 / 33 1.06% 257.88 Mh/s 3101 / 48 1.52% 258.77 Mh/s 3236 / 46 1.40% |
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