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March 19, 2014, 11:57:51 PM
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^^ Thanks for chiming in!! I just knew i would find bitcoinorama here calming the crowd but it looks like he is no where to be found.. 

 
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March 20, 2014, 12:56:57 AM
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^^ Thanks for chiming in!! I just knew i would find bitcoinorama here calming the crowd but it looks like he is no where to be found.. 

He is the director of communication after all  Grin
Communication has never been a strong point for KNC.
Sam Cole was very eager to speak with people in July/August, but now he is nowhere to be found, unless you are ready to drop massive cash. Apparently 58K USD is not enough.
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March 20, 2014, 01:56:47 AM
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did they really give him a job? haha .. they should've if they didnt! But good lo, if you spent 58k with a company i owned i would send liquor, massage therapist, wine, coupon, postcard and fortune cookie or something!!  Cheesy

 
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March 20, 2014, 01:58:28 AM
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Titan
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Titan is our first scrypt mining product and will be shipping in Q2/Q3 of 2014.
The stats and performance that we can release today are
Minimum 100/MH/s of performance
Uses a Standard ATX power supply (customer supplied ATX)
Based on the existing Jupiter form factor but will have blades of cards inside
Shipment begins in Q2/Q3 of 2014
Payment for this product is bitcoins and bank transfer only (we will add litecoin as a payment method in the near future)
as this is KnCMiner we of course reserve the right to increase the performance at any time,
Note** this is a preorder all customers are reminded to please read the terms and conditions carefully before ordering.


don't see anything about refunds (sorry just wondering if that is gonna go away)

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just got the following from KNC via EMAIL                               ======= NO REFUNDS ON THE SCRYPT MINER ===========

er as a result of that I'm probably out ....(off to look at gridseed stuff i guess)

here is a snag from the email

quote:


 Liam (kncminer)

Mar 19 17:58

Hi,

Before completing your purchase, please carefully read our terms and conditions which can be found here: https://www.kncminer.com/pages/tandc
Due to the relatively young nature of the scrypt mining market we are not currently offering refunds on our scrypt mining products.

Thanks


Med vänlig hälsning/Best regards


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Sorry but 10.2k with shipping for a scrypt miner that may arrive as late as DEC ....er not so much me thinks...(coward that I am I need an out)

er that could be because i dumped a Saturn and a 2nd Neptune from KNC....(they use me as a bank i use them as a bank..seemed fair) I guess they got sick
of this

anyway may or may not cut down on their Scryptminer sales (from the last i looked out of 2500 they had like 2451 as of 9am this morning anyway)


so it goes....the fickle finger of fate having F***K** moves on!

Searing


er P.S. did get a letter from BFL today saying that I WILL get a refund on my 600gh monarch order (more then 6 months)
am sitting out side as we speak waiting for 'hell to freeze over" annoucement from CNN....litecoin rig annoucement from KNC ...BFL refunds
the world has gone mad today i tell you mad............


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So are they going to work on this in their free time when they aren't working on the Neptunes?


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March 20, 2014, 02:27:47 AM
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So are they going to work on this in their free time when they aren't working on the Neptunes?


Titan
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Titan is our first scrypt mining product and will be shipping in Q2/Q3 of 2014.
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You mean working on their datacenters?
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NO REFUNDS ON THE SCRYPT MINER


Is that official !

 
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March 20, 2014, 02:54:07 AM
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So are they going to work on this in their free time when they aren't working on the Neptunes?


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Titan is our first scrypt mining product and will be shipping in Q2/Q3 of 2014.
....

Since they outsource the chips design all they have to do now is just get a PCB for that chips and supplying the part(which i think it's already done at this time). The Neptune chips has already taped out so the hard part is gone. Supervising the datacenter shouldn't be so hard so they have all the time for the scrypt miner.

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I love how they are mining more BTC than god in that datorhall of theirs and they still have the audacity to ask us to fund their next project.....so they can make more money.

Why don't you guys front the cash and risk for once. Sell from stock for a change. Crap, that is a poor show. Sorry KNC but I will stay out with the customary parting curse words to go with it.

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March 20, 2014, 03:17:33 AM
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Reduce power 100W or more on your KnC miners

Hi all - I've read a lot about people increasing voltages to reduce errors and wake dies.. But how many of you have gone the other way and lowered voltages as much as possible while keeping errors low?

I have and I've reduced power by over 100W each of my November Jupiters using the 1.0 firmware. Here's a quick guide on what I did:

I'm going to assume you know how to use putty, can connect to the mining screen, and get around bfgminer settings.

As many have said, the first step is to change to bfgminer so you can see what's happening on each die. If you don't want to use bfgminer permanently that's fine, but you'll need it to tune so do this first and restart the miner if necessary.

Open the bfgminer screen and the advanced tab together. Then take a deep breath because you will probably freak out soon, but this is a very fast way to tune your miner. Read through the steps before you begin.

Make a note if your error %s by board. Reset stats in bfgminer. Adjust all voltages to -0.0803 and apply. This will make many of your dies start to throw errors and the screen will start to lite up with disabled core messages with a three digit code. The first digit is the board, 0 1 2 or 3 for a Jupiter, the next two are the core and this code also helps you determine which die. Here is the range from memory:
Die 1:aa-bv
Die 2:bw-dr
Die 3:ds-fn
Die 4:fo-hj

Check bfgminer error stats - for any boards throwing a lot of errors start looking for disabled die messages, I recommend going in sequence, if the first board is throwing errors look for disabled dies starting with 0. If you see:

0cn disabled

Then increase the voltage one step for board 1, die 2.

Keep watching the messages and try to find a core in each range. Don't spend too long, move on to the next board, repeating the process for all boards all core ranges.

Apply your changes and wait about 15 seconds for the firmware to cycle the cores.

Reset bfgminer stats. If you are lucky, and I was, one of your boards may already be stable. Repeat the process for any board that still has a high error rate. Only increase voltage one step at a time and only increase voltage when you see disabled core messages. Go through all boards all dies, apply, reset, repeat.

If you have any dies at -0.0803, lower these one step. Apply the settings, wait, reset stats, check errors. Reverse any that now throw errors, keep reducing any that are not producing errors.

Once you stop seeing disabled cores you may have a few dies that are still throwing errors. Now you want to switch bfgminer display to show all cores. Scroll through the list and look for ranges that have multiple cores throwing errors. Increase voltage one more step on these until you are happy with the error rate.

It took me about 10 minutes by the time I tuned my third Jupiter. All of my voltages are adjusted negative - most are around -0.05 to -0.07, I have a couple that went down to -0.09 and a couple that needed to come all the way back to -0.02. But, I've reduced both temps and power. I was getting many FAULT 4 messages regarding DC/DC temps but now they are all happy. Good luck and hope this helps you!

If KnC is nice maybe they will build auto monitoring and voltage trim right into the next firmware Smiley if they are really nice maybe I will get a few extra Neptunes for saving them a few megawatts in their data center Wink

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March 20, 2014, 03:27:30 AM
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Reduce power 100W or more on your KnC miners

Hi all - I've read a lot about people increasing voltages to reduce errors and wake dies.. But how many of you have gone the other way and lowered voltages as much as possible while keeping errors low?

I have and I've reduced power by over 100W each of my November Jupiters using the 1.0 firmware. Here's a quick guide on what I did:

I'm going to assume you know how to use putty, can connect to the mining screen, and get around bfgminer settings.

As many have said, the first step is to change to bfgminer so you can see what's happening on each die. If you don't want to use bfgminer permanently that's fine, but you'll need it to tune so do this first and restart the miner if necessary.

Open the bfgminer screen and the advanced tab together. Then take a deep breath because you will probably freak out soon, but this is a very fast way to tune your miner. Read through the steps before you begin.

Make a note if your error %s by board. Reset stats in bfgminer. Adjust all voltages to -0.0803 and apply. This will make many of your dies start to throw errors and the screen will start to lite up with disabled core messages with a three digit code. The first digit is the board, 0 1 2 or 3 for a Jupiter, the next two are the core and this code also helps you determine which die. Here is the range from memory:
Die 1:aa-bv
Die 2:bw-dr
Die 3:ds-fn
Die 4:fo-hj

Check bfgminer error stats - for any boards throwing a lot of errors start looking for disabled die messages, I recommend going in sequence, if the first board is throwing errors look for disabled dies starting with 0. If you see:

0cn disabled

Then increase the voltage one step for board 1, die 2.

Keep watching the messages and try to find a core in each range. Don't spend too long, move on to the next board, repeating the process for all boards all core ranges.

Apply your changes and wait about 15 seconds for the firmware to cycle the cores.

Reset bfgminer stats. If you are lucky, and I was, one of your boards may already be stable. Repeat the process for any board that still has a high error rate. Only increase voltage one step at a time and only increase voltage when you see disabled core messages. Go through all boards all dies, apply, reset, repeat.

If you have any dies at -0.0803, lower these one step. Apply the settings, wait, reset stats, check errors. Reverse any that now throw errors, keep reducing any that are not producing errors.

Once you stop seeing disabled cores you may have a few dies that are still throwing errors. Now you want to switch bfgminer display to show all cores. Scroll through the list and look for ranges that have multiple cores throwing errors. Increase voltage one more step on these until you are happy with the error rate.

It took me about 10 minutes by the time I tuned my third Jupiter. All of my voltages are adjusted negative - most are around -0.05 to -0.07, I have a couple that went down to -0.09 and a couple that needed to come all the way back to -0.02. But, I've reduced both temps and power. I was getting many FAULT 4 messages regarding DC/DC temps but now they are all happy. Good luck and hope this helps you!

If KnC is nice maybe they will build auto monitoring and voltage trim right into the next firmware Smiley if they are really nice maybe I will get a few extra Neptunes for saving them a few megawatts in their data center Wink

But how does this effect performance?
With ASICS we are still in the age of performance over power savings.

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March 20, 2014, 07:55:15 AM
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Anyone looking for some upgrade boards for thier jupiters? - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523256.0
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March 20, 2014, 12:02:20 PM
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KnC getting worse by the day.

I guess no refunds for scrypt miners so they can continually shaft you to the days end and then move you on to the script data centre they will no doubt start to build.  Roll Eyes

"As an insurance policy to our valued customers, we have started converting all the jupiter boards that were positioned for our long lost neptune customers into a scrypt data centre. To ensure we don't have to stick to our word or actually deliver you a machine, we'll be paying our scrypt customers in dogecoins end of Qwhatever whilst holding on to your $10k for a year. We plan to be extremely vague and monosyllabic regarding any future enquires and thank you for the free money"

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March 20, 2014, 12:28:13 PM
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It is like if you ask yourself, what happen if the Jupiter's stop being profitable do knc force 1000 of hosting folks pay 150€ for ups ? Smiley

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March 20, 2014, 12:34:53 PM
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But how does this effect performance?
With ASICS we are still in the age of performance over power savings.

This is with zero impact to performance. Hashing at 760-770GHz, clocks all at 1000MHz, errors at same level as before tune, just less heat and less power.

Actually for me it's "improved" my hashing performance as I had one PSU kicking off on hot days and now the PSU also runs cooler.

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March 20, 2014, 12:59:22 PM
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*In Q2/Q3/Q4. All cinema tickets must be pre-ordered 6 months in advance

Classic!

Here's my theory on these guys - they used neptune pre-order money to pay for DC. Cat got out of the bag that they weren't close to getting said tunes out the door. Refund madness occurred. They needed more cash to pay for DC, so neptunes went on sale again. Nobody bought them because we're just not that stupid and learned how to do math. Bummer, what to do? The offer scrypt miners for 10G and no refunds. That way they've got the money and don't have to give it back when new people learn how to do math. Bonus smartness comes in when they will convert neptune orders that had the possibility of a refund over to the new "terms and conditions" of no refund scrypt miner. The last bit stinks of Hashfast.

Seriously, who is running the business over there? Do these companies all get together in some bar or strip club and compares notes?
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March 20, 2014, 03:29:20 PM
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KnCMiner Sells $2 Million Worth of Dogecoin and Litecoin Mining Rigs in Just Four Hours

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/kncminer-sells-2-million-worth-dogecoin-litecoin-mining-rigs-just-four-hours-1441047

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March 20, 2014, 03:44:22 PM
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KnCMiner Sells $2 Million Worth of Dogecoin and Litecoin Mining Rigs in Just Four Hours

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/kncminer-sells-2-million-worth-dogecoin-litecoin-mining-rigs-just-four-hours-1441047

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Well, what will happen if the devs decide to move from scrypt to scrypt-n? Also release date is so long away, it is better to invest your money on Dogecoin, start trading and become the woof of dogestreet. There are no correlations between introduction of ASIC into Sha-256 and Scrypt. More popular coin devs will listen to their community and move to ASIC resistant algorithms.
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March 20, 2014, 03:45:11 PM
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KnCMiner Sells $2 Million Worth of Dogecoin and Litecoin Mining Rigs in Just Four Hours

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/kncminer-sells-2-million-worth-dogecoin-litecoin-mining-rigs-just-four-hours-1441047

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they just sold 200 miners ....

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